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friday, the first 2024 ballots get sent out friday. now, process that for a second. people forget 63 days to go and leaning in after labor day and waiting for the debate even on tuesday friday, the first 2024 ballots gets sent out friday in north carolina. and if this wild race goes on like it has been, we all might need to do this but who knows what could happen next? >> well, there's already a new twist tonight over what states the trump campaign thinks that can actually win well, maybe not when it's now barring a top volunteer from any further work after he e-mailed supporters, apparently, that trump was beckley pulling out of his new hampshire race in a

sense, to focus on other battlegrounds, he's in the race still of course, but not focusing the same way. >> the trump campaign says that that is not true and that they still have resources on the ground in new hampshire. but one thing is for sure, while one camp is clogged themselves the underdog trump is trying to juice electricity of his own campaign, putting out a memo tonight arguing that it has the momentum in this race. and while it certainly close the new poll suggests that he has some work to do. it shows harris is more favorable and unfavorable than trump and not by small margins. now, trump will get several opportunities. this week alone to try to change that perception with events and three, battleground states now harris, for her part, will be in new hampshire tomorrow, laying out more of her economic policies and all of this in the leadup to the big event one week from today, the first trump harris meeting face-to-face and debate. and

maybe the only one learning just how seriously, by the way, harris is taking it. sources tell cnn that she will travel to pittsburgh thursday to prepare and stay there until traveling to philadelphia for the debate on tuesday. >> during me now, national politics court reporter for the wall street journal, sabrina siddiqui also, cnn political commentators, shermichael singleton and ashley flee, allison. >> so glad to have all of you here. first of all, that friday date is still in my mind. forget friday is the day of things starting to come into view for a lot of people. but you, michael, there's this top trump volunteer that's now barred from the campaign in new hampshire. we're hearing are reporting fairly emailed support, are they emailed supporters that new hampshire is no longer a battleground state for trump, and he is pulling out effectively what does that say about the state of mind you think for trump campaign, if they're not going to focus resources, there, i don't believe it. >> i mean, i've worked on three presidential campaigns, a

host of other campaigns. i have never known in my history of electoral politics volunteer have that level of access to internal campaign strategy. that's something that's only reserved for the very highest levels of a campaign at this capacity. so i personally don't buy what this person is saying. >> well, bringing i'm asking this point because it's every state is going to be so important battleground states, at least seven of them, right? we know this full well the poll look at this polling. it's got harris having some momentum and this, is the newest national poll. it's showing her with a narrow lead. it seems to be outside the margin of error as well. and she'll actually be in new hampshire tomorrow for an economic plan on veiling in more detail but back at this poll is this way and this reporting coming out where does your mind go in terms of the momentum and who has it? >> i think that there's no denying that the momentum has been with vice president harris since she stepped into the race. that's what our polling at the wall street journal as well as these other polls that you point to have suggested.

but at the same time as you plan out this is ultimately going to come down to, or could come down to tens of thousands of votes across a handful of key battleground states. and one thing because you mentioned vice president harris unveiling her economic plan that we've seen continued to be a trend is that a majority of americans are still ranking the economy jobs inflation as their top issues. trump tends to perform better on those issues than harris. but one thing has been really interesting is she has been closing that gap compared with where president biden was. so even as voters are complaining about the cost of living, about everything being much more expensive price-wise at the grocery store, gas prices, a lot of those day-to-day concerns, they're not necessarily blaming harris in the same way that they were blaming biden, even though the overall economic trajectory has actually been good under this administration's watch, i think that's why harris wants to stay focused on the economy. and then of course on reproductive rights, which are poll at the wall street journal showed is the third top issue, but also the issue that most voters see as the biggest

potential deal-breaker. >> well, you know, i know shermichael is doubting the veracity but we've multiple sources of frightening that is in fact true. this happened that they're the person was barred for having emailed some things out, but it's actually accurate information. when you hear this and think about new hampshire as a key state. and the prospects that somebody would focus. alternatively on other areas some think this is not what i'm going to vote various sources to. what does that indicate to you as a strategist? >> well, just knowing that ballots are going out, i kind of like throat them and i'm ready or not but i our pulled down in states when the margin the point margin starts to spread, that is not, i remember in 2020 or 2016 with hillary clinton and my beloved state of ohio surrogates were coming less merch and swag was coming

less the amount of door like pay camp mr. is that there are tells that people who have been in the game paid or not volunteer or staff member can tell when when a campaign is coming down in one state and surging in another. and what it tells me is that they don't think they can win new hampshire. he's donald trump is not slated to travel to new hampshire right now, but it also tells me that their nerves service about some other states and they're moving money from new hampshire someplace else. so where is that going? is it going to the blue wall? is going to north carolina. isn't going to a florida where kamala harris right now is doing her reproductive health care. it's like where did that money from north or from new hampshire moved to other battleground states, which is also a tell that they are nervous about other places. >> let's take ashley's hypothesis less. let's say they are redirecting funds that does happen on campaigns. it also could be that they're looking at other places where they could potentially close the gap. maybe their internals are showcasing their more competitive in a place like pennsylvania, or maybe they're looking at georgia, wisconsin,

or nevada, arizona and said, okay so wait a minute here, we're now only a point or two behind. so you could use those dollars, not necessarily because of concern, but maybe the expectation that hey, if we spend more here, we can change the dynamics. >> only problem with that response to this hypothetical is that before kamala harris is in the race, trump was hypothetically leading and all of those states. so he is seeing that his where he was positioned in the race against joe biden is just not the same against well, that's a hypothetical that i think is offensive. ready for it. >> it's what senator j.d. vance had to say today when he talked about what a potential commander in chief, as in vice president kamala harris could be. and the prospect hypothetically of whether people would join the armed forces. listen to this we really are on the brink of serious readiness issues because nobody wants to put on a uniform and serve in kamala harris is military. >> this is a person who wants the united states army to be about gender inclusion ridiculous diversity politics

instead of about serving your country. if you're a person thinking about joining the military, you're probably not going to want to sign up if kamala harris is the potential commander in chief, what do you make? >> and i remember hearing the dnc speech and vice president kamala talking about the lethality of the american armed service, armed forces what do you make of this comment and this tactic given how prevalent conversations around walz's military service of ben obviously senator jd vance's as well. >> and now this you know, one thing that we've seen is not just that you've had this boost and enthusiasm for vice president harris because of her replacing biden at the top of the ticket. but what's also happened simultaneous to that is that president trump and his campaign, which includes his running mate j.d. vance, have struggled to really figure out how to effectively go after vice president harris so we'll a lot of what they've been doing is resorting to some of these more personal attacks are making it more about competence. are some of the obviously a lot of the attacks have been there has been this

underlying racial or gender you know, misogynistic undertone to a lot of the attack lines they've used against her. and then now you also have these comments about the military. they're not really rooted any kind of fact. and also tie into a lot of the general attacks that trump has made against members of the military. so it's not entirely clear what the strategy is. i know republicans that i've spoken to in my reporting with much rather they just focus on making a policy argument keep talking about the economy, keep talking about inflation. talking about you actual proposal. puzzles, don't just make these statements that are not necessarily doing anything to win over. any voters. and if anything, they risk turning off the types of moderate suburban voters that they need. the independents who are increasingly shifting toward harris and a lot of the polls we were just talking about is more than just the fear mongering, right. >> so did you saying that america will be less safe? >> under potentially vice president kamala harris and he weren't going to join the armed services. think about all the references to patriotism at the dnc as well. and frankly, the rnc as well. i find this

pretty stunning as a tactic, but then there's, but then again i'm stand again today because there is this big race in montana, as you know. and as one of the plays that trump actually do you went to first and now the new york times is reporting that time. tim sheehy, who is republican candidate for senate in montana. he used racial stereotypes when he was speaking about native americans during private fundraisers last year, it was caught on tape. listen to one clip where he describes participating in roping and branding cattle on the cro reservation. listen to this i wrote a grant down there, so great way to bond with all the means to be out there while drunk at adm and your vote for the other now a spokesperson for mr. xi's campaign did not respond to the times request for comment. >> this is a very hotly contested race. shermichael. i can't imagine this would be an only not helpful, but obviously

and objectively offensive to make a reference, you every look he's leading right now, i think a coordinate 13 polls about three-and-a-half percent said native americans represent i think 6% of the entire state population. this isn't helpful. you certainly give tester and democrats writ large the opportunity to use that audio clip are in commercial ads targeted at native american voters trying to turn them out to say, hey, this is a guy that could potentially represent you in the u.s senate using this type of offensive length good racist language do you want this person, if not, you need to turn out and vote strategically speaking, you need to apologize quickly, swiftly, make amends. maybe do something to showcase that you recognize how awful the comments were to move forward. but stuff like this and a tight race could potentially make a difference if the strategist, on the other side can figure out how to utilize by that to their advantage, owe an apology tour with an epiphany added it in 2024. can you imagine unlikely it is highly offensive remarks that the candidates

said it is an extremely close race. >> i guess i'm just like keep talking, people keep showing us who they are so that the voters really get to make an informed decision if that is what you think native americans are people who, who they're community has suffered from alcoholism on reservations because of some of the plights that this country has inflicted on the folks who have been living on this land since day one. so go ahead, tell us what you think about them and then let a vote or make an informed decision. i'll just also say in montana it's not just native americans who would be offended in that. it's the neighbors of native americans and people who want us to go to some of our higher ideals. and so when you see someone, particularly like a sheehy, who already is a question mark real montana, if there is such a thing against a jon tester it could be a fault that he can't over because that's the strategy democrats were used, which ashley just laid out. and that's the problem for xi oh, are we telling of history? >> that's a strategy. alright, thank you, everyone. so nice to have you all here. >> look, the harris campaign kicking off the fighting for

reproductive freedom nationwide bus tour, and none other there. than donald trump's palm beach county backyard backed by harrowing miscarriage stories like of my next guest, who just as she was getting ready for her daughter's fourth birthday party and nearly 11 weeks into her pregnancy, she knew something did not feel right two emergency rooms sent me away because of louisiana's abortion ban. no one would confirm that i was miscarrying i was in pain bleeding so much. my husband feared for my life no woman should experience what i endured kaitlyn joshua joins me now, kaitlan. >> thank you so much for joining us. i was so moved by the statements that you made. i think so many people were and just thinking about that experience, kaitlan, i mean, you were turned away from not one, but two emergency rooms i mean, what happened next?

>> how did you even manage to overcome what happened? >> yes. and thank you again for having me tonight all i can say was i was adamant about trying to get at least some type of confirmation as to whether or not i was miscarrying. so some fall of 2022, when my husband and i found ourselves and health care crisis. as you stated at 11 weeks pregnant, i knew that something was wrong it went to one hospital where i was told i can't confirm at this moment whether or not you're miscarrying, but i'm sending you home with prayers the second hospital stated on barak question me rather are you even pregnant? it's just it's like a sister to me and sent me home basically saying that i had to take tylenol. that was the only thing that i could receive in that moment and i knew because i was educated that it almost 11 weeks pregnant, that i was definitely should have should have received a d&c procedure or some type of medication, abortion in order to mitigate that miscarriage. but also not compromised my future fertility and to be denied that not once but twice. i'm really showed

me in real time what it is like to live under donald trump's abortion bans and on the overturn of roe v. wade, that some arm who describe being sent home with prayers a tylenol, assist i mean, as a mother who has gone through two pregnancies thinking about how scared i would have been and how much it would have been on combat to try to be my own champion in a moment of extraordinary vulnerability is so unspeakable. kaitlan and this is so personal, it is just a heart-wrenching journey what has compelled you to even speak out because this is deeply personal and one could not blame you if you wanted to keep it to yourself. i'm glad you did not is deeply personal at times i can i ask myself, oh, board whatever i signed up for it because of course you hear so much in terms of how people conceptualize abortion care and understand the complexities of it or are not understand the complexities of abortion care and that part is always really hard to digest, but i do know

as a woman of color, as a black woman, i would be remiss if i didn't not speak about these stories already pairing stories coming out of the deep south, especially in louisiana, in a place with such a rigged regis, abortion ban. >> i am not speaking for myself. i'm speaking for thousands of women that have dealt with this since the overturn of roe v. wade. and that's been exacerbated since the abortion ban in our state. but most importantly, i know that i am bringing a contribution to a story that talks about black maternal health care, which is already so alarming and our country and we definitely have seen how that has played a role in the abortion ban. and i know that there are plenty of women when out there that i that live in pushing man in the 22 states and donald trump brags about this often. and what i'm yelling to the rooftops is that we don't want this to happen in all 50 states. my story can very well be your story and we don't need that. we don't want that. let's do what we need to do in order to restore roe and do even more in trying rights in our constitution so that there is no abortion dan, in any of the 50 states.

>> kaitlan. thank you so much for sharing this deeply personal story because i think so many people need to understand what is really the face and the journey of those who are just trying to seek medical care, particularly in your circumstances. i really appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you ahead. >> he was a convicted murderer. granted clemency by trump, even though it was not recommended by the justice department. now that man is back in legal trouble and we'll explain why next. >> we always had dog carolina, my best buddies adam, my whole

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cnn special event. we abc news presidential debates. i'm okay. asked next tuesday at nine new reporting tonight, a former cricket felon, jamie davidson, who was granted clemency in the waning days of the trump administration, sentenced to three months in a domestic violence case in florida and back in 1993 davidson was convicted of murder for his role in planning a robbery that led to the death of an under cover police officer in upstate new york. >> now, davidson clemency upset the late police officers, family, and according to new york times, some white house officials objected to the

commutation at the time. i want to bring in the reporter who broke the story, judd legacy, he joins me now along with cnn, senior law enforcement analyst, andrew mccabe. thank you both for being here. this is a fascinating story of how it's evolved what have you learned about where we are right now with this commutation and now this charge well, there's some additional legal trouble now for mr. davidson he was convicted in may on this trial on this allegation that he strangled his wife during a domestic dispute in her apartment and is now appealing that conviction. >> but at the same time, he's running into even more serious trouble in federal court where he could be subject to a violation of his supervised probation and could end up back in jail federal prison for many years. all of that right now is being held at a behance while they pursued this appeal of the

state conviction. >> and this wasn't a pardon. it was a commutation. right? andrew. and so people might be scratching their temples as to why this particular person who would be implicated in a crime that occurred against an undercover officer. why would that be somebody that trump would have given that commutation to if they're curious about that, they should be. this case is a perfect example of why former president trump, who was known to have essentially ignored clemency process. there's an office of the pardon attorney within the department of justice. they received requests for clemency. they do investigations on those people to determine if they are worthy of a pardon or commutation from the president united states president trump ignored that office and often just spoke to friends and advisers and celebrities to get recommendations of people who they thought they wanted pardoned. this is a perfect example of why you should not do that. you end up pardoning the wrong person and taking on great risk as a result?

>> no, i should note that a spokesperson for trump told cnn president trump believes anyone convicted of a crime should spend time behind bars like kamala harris, he says, who supports eliminating cash bail as you have articulated though, this was not the normal process of how one actually gets to a president for a commutation, which is a lessening of the sentence as opposed to say, a pardon, fully, this happened in the waiting hours and i think it was the last day of his presence, i think was january 20, as what was going on 14 days earlier in that run but when you look at this case businesses, it wasn't foreseeable to trump to be fair that he'd been involved in another crime, but now that he has been, what impact is that commutation? have anything? >> well, he still has a commutation for that crime. so he he was serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole. that maintains. but once you get the commutation, you have a five-year period of supervised

release, basically, the federal version of parole, and that is what is going to be now at issue when this goes back to federal court, and he could actually find himself having just been released spending a couple of decades in jail back in federal prison as a result of this crime. >> by the way, you mentioned the office of the pardon attorney mr. davidson, did actually seek a commutation from the office of the pardon attorney twice and was denied both times but went right to ben president trump, how he would he have access. >> i mean, this is the idea of most people think about fairness and a kind they've due process how did he have direct contact with at least access to the president we don't know exactly, but we do know that his attorney also represented donald trump junior so and the his attorneys husband is also very well connected and represented other members of

the trump organization. >> so that probably got his foot in the door, elbow rubbing indeed, andrew, when you think about how often we hear the phrase soft on crime and how often this has been used as political ammunition during campaigns. in particular, whether somebody is soft on crime, whether they believe want should be released. this factors into but conceivably absolutely. >> absolutely. it does. i mean, on a on a kind of an ethical and an effective level, former president trump now has to bear responsibility for the fact that this convicted narcotics traffickers and cop killer was out on the street because of his judgment and decision to release them, and he now has committed a crime against it. his partner. and, you know, let's be honest by ignoring the normal process, by ignoring the work of the pardon attorney and taking this on entirely himself. he now has no one else to blame where this the product of a recommendation by the pardon attorney to grant clemency to this person. he'd have a little bit more room to

explain, hey, this is this was the recommendation i followed the recommendation. he can't say that now this is on him it's the lingering why question, giant, andrew. >> thank you both so much. ahead, it, was a big feature at trump rallies, will now a judge says, the trump campaign can't use what you're hearing in the background right now. isn't, isaac hayes song and his son joins me next malley mandela, the newest ambassador there's plenty story how i became an ambassador. >> i went to the store and i lied and said i wasn't ambassador. do i get at this count the owner called me and said, would you like to be an ambassador for sketchers? and i said, yes, try skechers slip in its pods biggest sale of the summer save up to 25% on moving in storage for a limited time in cy it's been trusted with over 6 million moves, but don't wait, use promo code, big 25 to save visit hot.com

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about daily routine at laura geller.com or got news for you, ramirez, saturday, september 14th at nine on cnn god bless, you all. go out and god bless you all. thank thank you that was how trump ended his campaign rallies, but not anymore today, a federal judge ruled the former president and his campaign cannot use that

song written by isaac hayes and david porter. >> hold on. i'm coming at rallies. it comes after the estate of the late r&b artists and songwriter, an icon frankly, sought an emergency injunction to stop the trump campaign from using the song saying they do not have approval. an attorney for trump spoke to the media after today's ruling. >> the campaign doesn't has no interest in annoying or hurting anyone. and if the haze family feels that it hurts or noise them, that's why we we're not going to force the issue with us now is the case is son, isaac hayes, the third is attorney james l. walker junior. so nice to have both of you on this evening. laying begin with you here, isaac, because the judge ruled that trump can no longer use the song. hold on. i'm coming. they denied a motion to force the trump campaign pan to take down any previously recorded uses of the song, though. are you satisfied by this result i'm

absolutely satisfied by this result we wanted injunctive relief just based on the fact that donald trump was continuing to use the song after we told them not to use the song and he actually serve notice that he was no longer supposed to play the song at his rally. >> so this is definitely an outcome that i'm pleased about. >> and why is it so meaningful to you more broadly for this song and your father's legacy, not to be used in this way well, my father lost the rights to his music a year before i was born. >> it took us 56 years it's to get this copyright back. we got it back in march of 2022 as soon as we get it back in may, donald trump started using it without our permission at an nra rally in houston moments after the uvalde mass shooting. i was definitely not pleased about that. i sent out a tweet about that later, a cease and desist went out so it's important because we have to fight to get these copyrights back. a lot of arts get taken advantage of. and i want to make sure that people understand how important owning your publishing is for situations like this.

>> i mean, 50 years to lose a copyright and this work that others are likely profiting on, james is the story of far too many artists, particularly of that he particularly generation and ongoing today, i wonder from your perspective, james, what else are you looking for from the trump campaign because the songs have been played, they've been associated at different points in time. is it too late to course? correct. and what are the next steps? >> oh, no, it's not too late. i mean, they tried to create an argument today of free speech and also trying to say fair use. but we rejected that as did the judge was going to happen. now, laura is we're going to go through some 50 uses that we've seen since june when they got the letter we sent the letter bmi sent a letter which is a music society that collects royalties we're gonna go through these 50 plus uses and determine how much they all the haze family and if we can't settle, it will go on to trial but i think the move today is let's figure out how to settle this because each instance would be an infringement, essentially allegedly, and there would be a

licensing fee that would have been owed really quickly though if you had this license, would you still have the power to be able if you'd given a license to him or anyone else, would you still have the power to be able to withhold the ability to perform the song if you didn't like cool wanted to use it. >> if it was more broadly available to have a license yes. >> if the way it works is bmi gives you what's called a blanket license and they have a catalog of songs in this blanket that you can use that you're rallies isaac hayes at isaac aid. third, the estate of isaac hayes notified trump's team. they no longer to use this song as a political rally, political exceptions to the blanket license that allows you to pull a certain song out. the difference i want to point out is when you see other artists doing it says celine dion some of the others who have complained, they don't own their copyright mr. hayes junior here or excuse me, mr. hazen, third here was fortunate that he took control of the copyright. he gave the termination notice. so he sets the groundwork for who can use

it and who can't use it very important point and thank you for explaining how this was actually able to be authorized or not. >> i mean, isaac, your father, he wrote this song, but it was the duo sam and dave, who formed it. now sam moore who is one-half from sam and dave, that has come out in support of trump using the song and actually address it in a sworn statement filed with the court by the trump campaign that he is opposed to what you are doing now, how would you like to respond to him? >> well, i understand mr. moore has his political views, but for me this is a nonpolitical situation. this is about the fact that someone was using copyright without her permission. and it was more about the character, the nature of donald trump, a person that has been found liable of sexual abuse? and i said a lot of disrespectful things about women, especially black women. and i know for certain, as a brother to seven sisters and my father was a father to $7. he would not approve of donald trump using his music to

degrade and disrespect women in that fashion so sams comments are fine, but they're not politically motivated. i have no no further comment to say anything to say laura me i put something out. go ahead, please. >> sam does not own the copyright and i want your view at home to understand a lot of people sing songs, but they don't own the songs so he can have an opinion about the song and we respect him as the sanger in the legend that he is, however, the haze family owns the copyright, so they get to determine whether or not donald trump or any other politician can use the song at a rally or a fund raise or anywhere else. because they own the copyright and as you know, intellectual property rights, you have to police them. >> otherwise, you could risk losing some of the rights that our correspondent to what you have, isaac hayes, the third, james walker junior. >> thank you both so much. >> thank you. thank you. >> elon musk amplifying attacks against kamala harris, all with the help of artificial

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supposed to look like harris as a communist wearing a red uniform complete with a hammer and sickle on her hat. now that fake and i do i mean, fake image and false david depicting harris as a communist. the post has been viewed nearly 70 million times musk's post, yessing women shouldn't take part in democracy and had been viewed more than 19 million times. the x did not respond to a cnn request for comment. but with us now cnn contributor kara swisher also the host of the on and pivot podcast. kara. so good to have you. first of all, i mean, where do i begin? how about the sexes this one at this point in time, i missed the type of thing that's used in the dark mourners of message boards has been amplified by his 196 million followers. i don't want you to try to get into his head, but i do why does he need to tell people these statements? >> i think he's he's it's eugenics i mean, it's a version of eugenics that he was pushing

right. and that that man or more superior than women presumably. but all kinds of weird stuff around dna and stuff genetics, it's strange that it's, it's so old school, but he's he's managed to amplify it and really horrific way and the way he does it is say things like interesting interesting observation and things like that. but it's just pushing eugenics, which is repulsive. and i don't think he cares because he wants attention foisted upon himself, which is why he's fighting with almost everyone on the planet at this if he were not himself in a user, i mean, there are some guidelines, right? you've got the community, the communist post, there was no community note. there was no fact check. it was obviously a fake picture. it doesn't even really looked like her, but there whining to look like her, that actually violates the company has guidelines, not that it matters if you're elon musk, apparently no, it doesn't matter. >> he can do anything he wants on his platforms are changes, opinions like he's doing and attacking brazil and then giving into india or turkey. it

just depends on his whims and that's where we are at this point is whatever comes into his adult head at this moment at any time, then you just tweets it and he has so many followers. you know, when he games the system, a lot of reporters have written about how force is his, his information on others. he's essentially become the maga rage machine. i think that's what he's trying to do even back in march when i said he was going to back donald trump because even clear to me that's where this was headed. they denied it and said they want it to be neutral, but he has no interest in being neutral. using it as a megaphone for all kinds of strange and odd things, including, including this, these crazy ideas about certain alpha males being more superior and they should run the government, i guess i mean, i have to look at the universal. >> i do wonder if it in fact is a strategy or it's reflexive provocateurs coming together, who knows where it ends, but i mean, the washington post released an article detailing the billions that investors have lost since he took over as

you say, the companies valuation went from 316 million to 88 million. so as far as high-status males running things looking at corporation, just how a wall yeah, he's he's driving it right into a wall. why? but why? >> because he can it's rich people buy yachts, are they by a giant communication serve as it did. he doesn't care, he doesn't care about it. this is what he wants to do with his money. it's also affecting as other very good businesses, whether it's tesla or starlink for other things, he's working on, which have a lot of really interesting implications for future tesla is a groundbreaking auto company, but now it's falling behind as other competitors ramp up as is inevitable, but he's certainly not, doesn't have his eye on the ball there and he's way behind they're trying to do some hand-waving robotaxi thing. but waymo, which is one by google is way ahead. if i'm way ahead of him and others are catching up with tesla and they're losing market share all over the place i mean, this is just a rich man's folly. and we've seen this before, of course, in history, but it's a

real, it's really something to see, but he's hoping to gain power through it. he might do it. it's a big, it's a high risk hi reward strategy. i assume. >> i mean it's one thing if a rich man is trying to build his own ships in a glass bottle, this has consequences for everyone else, right? and thinking about that, which i no idea how one puts a ship in a bottle, but i'll just digress it in different conversations. but there wasn't an update today, by the way, kara, on brazil's ban of acts that you mentioned, starlink, satellite based internet source better also owned by musk is backtracking, says it will now comply with a brazilian supreme court order to block ex that surprising know, because he was, you know, he's a bully so he bullies and he didn't win and he thought that i suppose the supreme court wouldn't back this, judge. he's been attacking relentlessly you know, these are the rules of brazil and he's got to follow the laws of brazil. he's not immune from laws and so they've just told him forget it, you and he has to comply because what they do is they would affect the business there and ground stations that they actually haven't. brazil. and if you want to, if you want to

operate in brazil, you operate by the rules and these are the rules and, you know, some of them some people think they're too much, but it's their country and they don't, they are very worried about misinformation there as are many countries and so there are lots of people including the telegram ceo and france. you a lot of tech companies are finally being held held accountable for certain behaviors and practices, which is something i've talked about a lot, but now it's happening elsewhere, not in this country, but elsewhere. >> well, maybe it'll come on over the pond at some point in time. >> it's harder here. we do have the first day that i met. just remember yeah, we do. which is a good thing. and then there's an irrational work on trying and to figure out about that section 230 and what it could really mean. leave it to the bureaucracy to be quite on pace with technology every single time, kara swisher, nice talking to you. >> thanks. laura up next huge growth and women's sports has many people aiming for a new goal. >> getting rid of the gender pay gap one of them is brandi

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