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>> less, but i think in the end it's not going to be a close election with just nine weeks left until election day. brand new cnn polling out this morning shows just how tight the race is across key must-win states plus this what bluntly michigan, y'all know how to win michigan, a state that went red in 16 and blue in 2020 is still a toss up this time around michigan congresswoman haley stevens joins us live. >> this the people who are buried there don't have an opinion the youngest son of senator john mccain calling out donald trump, why he says trump's photo-op in arlington was a violation. >> plus later as long as there are hostages there live or dead we're going to continue and fight. they deserve it outrage in the streets as nationwide protests in israel enter their fourth day, the mounting pressure on prime minister benjamin netanyahu all right,

6:00 a.m. here in washington. >> a live look at new york city. look at that beautiful sunrise on this wednesday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us there are just 62 days until election day and six days until kamala harris and donald trump meet on the debate stage in philadelphia and there are just two days yes. to until the first mail-in ballots will be sent out. voters are going to be voting new cnn polling released just this morning shows a race if that is truly neck and neck among likely voters in key battleground states. harris holds a lead over trump in wisconsin and michigan in arizona. trump holds the lead in nearby nevada. there's no clear leader. and what are arguably the two most critical states? well, it's a tie. there is no clear leader in georgia and it

is dead even in the must-win state of pennsylvania around 15% of likely voters in these swing states say they are open to changing their mind about which candidate they will support. on average, about two thirds of likely voters in these states say they're extremely motivated to vote in november and here is where you see evidence that harris has momentum is from getting the democratic base voters excited and michigan 72% of democratic-aligned registered voters say they're extremely motivated to vote. that is up from 58% back in march this new cnn polling shows that the race two to 70, the past of the white house runs straight through georgia and pennsylvania. if trump holds north carolina and wins both of those states, then he can lose michigan, wisconsin, and nevada. it wouldn't matter if kamala harris wins pennsylvania and she holds wisconsin and michigan. she only needs one more electoral vote to get over the top he's looking at you, omaha and the post-labor day

sprint kicks into high gear. donald trump and kamala harris are sounding two very different tones. watch i can't believe that there's going to be a close election. you know, we're leading in the polls but it looks less. but i think in the end it's not going to be a close election. >> we are the underdogs in this race and we have some hard work done ahead of us but here's the beauty of us in this room. >> we like our work all right, joining us now, our panel's here. >> elliot williams, cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, david chalian, cnn political director kendra bark off former press secretary to joe biden and matt gorman, former senior adviser to tim tim scott's presidential campaign. welcome to all of you. thank you so much for being here. >> david chalian very exciting to have swing-state battleground likely voter screen polls here with just 62 days out. >> i tell you over past labor you do and there's no one

better than you to help us understand what we've learned in this cnn data. >> so honestly, take us through it. what did you find most interesting? what should we be paying attention to? you first, just that map that you put up of what these polls tell us about the pads to to 70, i think is one of the big takeaways here because we've talked so much about that blue wall pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. >> and as you noted here, we're seeing harris with slight leads in michigan and wisconsin so instead of our focus for the next 60 today is just being on those blue wall states. i really think yet to go down the side of the east coast that pennsylvania georgia will see. we don't have north carolina in this set of polling. if that is acting like georgia those states may be the ones that germans because as you noted donald trump has to have every just hold everything in 20 flip. >> pennsylvania and georgia. he's the president again and so if harris can win one of those states, that's a huge block that she puts up in the path for donald trump and sets

her potentially at of course, the other thing i would note the motivation obviously is key and that is what we've seen over the last since july 21 when joe biden stepped off the stage here, just a snap back into contention. >> but it hasn't catapulted harris into some commanding position in this race. >> what it has done is make this race extraordinarily competitive and tight again, and i just see, you see that across this, i would also note and i know you have these numbers put up the gender gap. >> yeah. i think this is fascinating. if you look at likely female voters across these states, you see a enormous margins. for harris there. i mean, look in wisconsin, that's i mean 55 i didn't a landslide in our complaint plus 17. she's plus 16. she's plus 15. >> those are chalian is doing math on live. sorry i know this is like an awesome, awesome feet our home. >> we love. >> show the other side because among likely male voters, it's

big advantage trump. this is what we mean by gap when we say gender gap, it's not just the advantage among female voters for a democrat, it's the difference between the female voter advantage among democrats and the male voter advantage among republicans. and you see what a big advantage that is for trump among male voters. and that to me is going to be one of the definitional things when we are on election night looking at the results. >> well, macron that's one of the reasons why the sunday new york times had trump courting the manosphere on its front page and why he is doing all these podcasts with these types of people, right? i mean, what do you, when you look at these numbers, david's digging into what you say a couple of things. >> number one, you're absolutely right. whoever wins, their subgroup like their gender by more than the other one loses it. that's, that's what the whole election is about. number one, pennsylvania, it's it's pennsylvania is the ball game. there's no reasonable way you can really in my opinion, win pennsylvania and lose a state like georgia or nevada, they all kind of are linked, maybe not tangibly, but essentially wisconsin and michigan, they've always kind of gone together. that's less of a surprise and

look, i think that is back in play, arizona. >> what was surprising me, obviously abortion, there's a referendum on the ballot. so it tells me that there's not an automatic pro-abortion and pro-harris lincoln lincoln together on that. and then the last point is, look, 62 days away, i believe that's july 4 to today. so think back, it's it's not nothing let's change not only to tire is david chalian, can we talk about georgia for a second? i'm interested to know what you think about what matt said in that. maybe georgia, pennsylvania go together. but this was something that when i talked to republicans, they say, well, this is kind of a tough hill for her to climb in georgia. do you agree? three with that? are polling suggests maybe it's not quite there. >> well, here's what i find fascinating about georgia among white non-college educated voters. that's obviously part of donald trump's base of voters he performs best in

georgia in that group. i mean, that i've really, really fascinating. and in fact, even among white college-educated voters donald trump is dominating in georgia and that is, that is a demographic that, you know, harris and democrats over the last many years have been trying to utilize to close the gap with republicans in certain places. that is why, again, and the african american vote in georgia is going to be the ball game for kamala harris here. if she is going to be able to get over the hump here and repeat joe biden's performance it's the white vote. there looks different no matter the education level than it does it. a lot of these other states, it's just, it's a much more pro-trump category and so she has to significantly over performed with african-americans there. >> i was just going to say, as somebody who worked for bob casey in pennsylvania and know the state decently, i would say it's i would be curious to know where the breakdown is two because you've seen a big cities, the pittsburgh's, the philadelphia's, and then

everything in between. is a very different place, right? hate that the people vote differently. and so seeing the campaign get in there to go to harrisburg, go to the smaller lancaster, go to these smaller cities, shows me that they, every vote is going to count for these campaigns. and they recognize that by going to these small towns, by going to these small cities in pennsylvania yeah. >> well, i mean, you have to raise the question as to i mean, they're going to be looking back at the vice presidential pick of aden picture appear. on all come down to pennsylvania, perhaps ruing that decision possibly. however, to the point that was raised before there's a there's a scenario in which nebraska one electoral vote becomes relevant and that tim walz is our jeff zeleny was just there is just home home-state looking at that blue blue.in for the blue dot. >> and for folks who aren't familiar, nebraska has one electoral vote right around because they divide their electoral college votes it's by congressional district, told to stay when in omaha, then the whole state can be read, but that dot can be blue. >> and there is a scenario and

correct me if i, if i'm getting the math wrong here, david, but if kamala harris wins, i believe it's pennsylvania and michigan. michigan, and wisconsin than that one vote in nebraska becomes quite consequential. so all of these decisions around who won picks as vice president can come up to buy to buy, or reward a candidate pretty spectacular away, but no, but of course, if she is to lose pennsylvania, that i think the finger-pointing come november 6th will be here. >> david, what is our poll tell us, i mean, obviously we know it's a dead heat in pennsylvania and our poll has this knows to knows the number is the exact same. where are you paying most attention in terms of pennsylvania specifically? >> well, you've got three counties in pennsylvania that are so-called these boomerang, these pivot boomerang counties. they they went for obama twice. they went for trump they went for biden. right? and so looking at a place like erie, pennsylvania, or north hampton

county, these are not contiguous counties. >> know eerie being way out west and north hampton county being easton near allen, watching how those those counties behave is really important to obviously as you're saying, you, if you're a democrat, you win pennsylvania, obviously by running up the margins and philadelphia and pittsburgh. and what james carville called alabama in the middle. >> that's where he is what some people who has call it. >> that that is where trump needs to run up the score that's just the way the math of the commonwealth works, but i do think they're interesting pockets like these counties that may show us some movement this cycle, what is different about 24 then was about 20 or 60 we were also talking at right before we came on the air about the issue breakdowns and you found interesting how voters were focused. >> yes. so i don't think it'll surprise any of us that the economy's issue number one, it is across all six of these battleground states that is where voters are. >> that is what is most important to their vote. what is so interesting to me in these numbers is when you look at it by each candidate supporters, among trump voters,

trump supporters in all six of these states according to these polls, the economy is overwhelmingly number one issue among harris there's if you just look at harris voters in all six states, the number one issue for them, protecting democracy. so obviously we know trump is advantage on the economy, advantage on immigration. it's a good thing if you're a candidate like trump, that your advantage category is also the number one issue. there's no doubt about that. we've seen harris make the economy battle more competitive than it was with biden, but she has more work to do there, but protecting democracy is the thing that is top of mind for her voters even more so than abortion, right? >> and what's fascinating about the economy and where it fits in. where people think about is two huge bits of economy news coming up in the next couple of weeks. number one and jobs report coming this friday. number two, the fed with an interest rate decision decision on september i think it's 18th now, in any normal year, those almost inconsequential bits of

information, or do we have 150,000 or 158,000 jobs? but these are the kinds of things that people really focused on an election year and could latch on to there's been this is why she's starting to roll out her plans, right? she's in new hampshire today. she's talking about her economic plans for small businesses new hampshire today i think your face answers the question entirely you know, every electoral vote counts is what we're going to go with, right? we're just talking about nebraska. i think she's she's getting out there. she is on the trail. she's talking to everybody across the country as well as what is what i went to sleep on metal, what was good, what it's like it's heavily white. trump was probably likely to flip if biden was still in the race. so he keep your also close to new york and boston are fundraising to get there very easily. so she's probably putting a fundraiser interior. >> you go and plus, you know, who knows, no time in new hampshire is ever wasted, don't get me wrong. >> i'm a huge fan of new hampshire. i don't want to don't want to say that david frum this. poll that you've got

to reach the bottom for that you think is going to be something that this race could turn on. >> i would just note that in terms of sort of candidate qualities that we tested people overwhelmingly see trump as having very clear policies that the clear policies but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a positive, right? so in a majority of voters in all 60, it ranges 50% up from across all six states. think his policies our to extreme rather than generally mainstream, it's the flip for her or her policies are seen by the plurality or majority of voters across all six states as generally mainstream, not too extreme, very interesting. all right. >> we've got a lot more to talk about here on cnn this morning. >> it's been described as a 50 state this election cycle is no different michigan crowd i'm assuming haley stevens joins us live to talk about the importance of the wolverine state plus a former aide to the new york governor charged with acting as an agent for the

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don't want to special night life writing it eight on tnt it's a violation because these rules are set in place. the people who are buried there don't have an opinion where the point of arlington cemetery is to go and show respect for

the men and women who we've given their lives for this country. when you make it political, you take away the respect of the people who are there that was first-to-10, a gym, mccain, the son of late republican senator john mccain. >> he is referring to donald trump's visit last week to arlington national cemetery, where he laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier as many political leaders do. but it was what trump did afterward that ignited controversy. he visited soldiers grave sites in the cemetery's section 60 at the invitation of some of their family members. and while he was there, trump and his aides filled filmed a tiktok video, apparently in violation of a federal law that prohibits partisan political activity throughout the cemetery, u.s. cemetery employee attempted to prevent a member of trump's group from filming. it led to a confrontation so significant that arlington reported it to the military police the employee declined to press charges, reportedly fearing retaliation and in a statement following the incident, the

trump campaign claim, the employee was quote, clearly suffering from a mental health episode trump spoke about that controversy again yesterday to fox's sean hannity there was no conflict, there was no fight. >> there was no anything. and i get home that night and i get a call that from one of the people that is press sir, there's a story that your people got into a tremendous fight with people representing the december. do you notice that the person representative now doesn't want to talk? >> all right. our panel is back matt gorman, this is what do you make of what donald trump said there? >> i mean, because because what jimmy mccain, lieutenant mccain said there is that look, these these people who are buried there, they can't speak for themselves and obviously there are also fanning family members to consider of all of those people as well. >> yeah, i think this is somebody that trump's team has been widely pit it off the story for a week now, i think

they recognize this isn't helping them and it's something they just kind of want to move passing the mccain story he to give it life and a very limited way. it looks john, jim mccain has every right to vote for every wants it private citizen don't progress him on. but i also think it's going to have what outsized influence. i'm not gonna pretend that has a lot of outsized influence or really affect any vote other than maybe his or someone. and it's families, but i think if you're the trump came in as soon you can get off this story, the better it is for you. >> yeah. i mean, david chalian, how do you think this actually impacts votes? the story? >> well, i think that it feeds into an already existing narrative around donald trump that is problematic for him. so i think i think matt is right and i think that's why they would like to get off this story because it goes back to the comments that john kelly has told everyone about the suckers and losers. i know trump denies ever saying those things and, this notion of not comprehending what service is. and it fits into this larger frame that harris and democrats

want to paint around trump, that he's in this for himself and that she is in it for you. and so i just think for all those reasons, this incident alone, i don't think it's a compounding thing that fits into this larger narrative that democrats are building around trump. and i think that becomes a problem. >> well, and of course, john mccain the senator john mccain was part of this narrative. i mean, let's hush back to iowa in 2015. i mean, this was kind of the original incident when people thought, oh, well, donald trump could never win the election because he says things like this. watch me watch hero moore, euro. >> he's. a war hero half years, he's the war here because humans capital mccain, filmed footage that got used in a campaign ad for him at arlington now the difference is the moment he discovered that it was a problem, the moment

that it made it through the campaign, he immediately took that footage out and immediately apologize for it. >> i think it number one, it's to the point it's the david was making its a character issue in terms of what we all know about former president trump. and i think what's striking here and your question was, well, how will this move people whose surprised at this point based on the litany of statements of the former president has made and conduct of his about how he's regarded the military. >> there's one other thing i want to touch on speaking of the military and that is jd the vance, the vice presidential nominee on the republican side, spoke with laura ingraham on fox, and he raised questions about well, he said you know, who, nobody is going to want to serve in kamala harris's military. let's watch what he said we really are on the brink of serious readiness issues because nobody wants to put on a uniform and serve in kamala harris's military. this is a

person who wants the united states army to be about gender inclusion, ridiculous diversity politics instead of about serving your country and uniting together as americans to serve on the same team and defend your nation david chalian can i just ask for your reaction to him saying that this is of course someone who wants to be the number two to the commander in chief who served his country admirably my reaction is it's not a kamala harris's military it's the united states has military and i think i just think that this is not a road that is going to serve them. >> well, i'd understand he's saying it on fox. i totally understand the politics behind that. and speaking that way to the base j.d. vance has not just been living in a fox echo chamber in this campaign. he has been doing a ton of local we'll interview is doing a ton of communication more broadly to try and speak to the middle of the electorate and that, that kind of comment i just i think will not serve him well.

when you politicize the military in that way, i just think a lot of voters respond to that that doesn't comport with their understanding of the u.s military. >> i also think that he tries to make comments to see what's going to stick right? we heard his comments about women and cats. i think he just throws things out there to be more trumpian and i just don't think at works for a whole host of reasons. >> well, it goes back to what we're talking about the last block. are they trying to win? over the manosphere or the middle and yes, that kind of comment does resonate with some voters, but certainly not the kinds of voters that they need to attract to win if they actually intend to win all right. david chalian, so grateful to have you on the show. thank you. >> thank you so much for being here see you soon. i hope the rest of panel is gonna be back in just a few minutes still to come and after the break, just days away from the next presidential debates, this time, kamala harris faces off against donald trump. how each is preparing plus the gala honoring january six suspects at donald trump's resort in new

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bring you the latest from israel where protests continue to rock the country after the killing of six hostages in gaza, plus new cnn polling shows an incredibly tight race in michigan. we're going to speak with congresswoman haley stevens to get her insight into what voters are thinking in her state i liked that she's young, i like to she can put two sentences together. i like that. she can she can speak with conviction. >> i'm a stronger supporter of donald trump because kamala harris is in the race hen

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new cnn polling shows kamala harris with a 48 to 43 lead over donald trump among likely voters, just outside the margin gen. of error. of course, with margins this close undecided voters are critical were you undecided or did you know who you're going to vote for for president? was definitely leaning towards trump before she got in. and now how do you feel now that she's in? >> i'm waffle and a little bit. >> and now this year, had you plan to vote for donald trump? >> well, i did now tables might turn with kamala harris. yes. >> so you're not sure? >> not sure. >> i got up i got to research a little more alright, joining me now to talk about how their race is shaping up in her state is democratic congresswoman haley stevens of michigan, congresswoman. >> so grateful to have you on the program. thank you so much for being here. i just want to start by asking you. i mean, we because as i'm sure you know, your fellow congresswoman, debbie dingell, a very well she was out there in 2016 saying

that trump could win michigan. now she says there's a union hall problem. i want to ask you, based on what you hear in your district what do you view as kind of the critical group of voters, a place where democrats can win or lose the election in michigan well, yes. >> so look, i represent oakland county, michigan. this 15, 20 years ago was a republican county. we now have democratic oakland county executive and david coulter. we are expecting a half 1 million votes, nearly in my district alone and we also have a trajectory of strong democratic female leadership. and what you have is a result of that kasie is you have incredibly exercised volunteers. precinct delegates, people doing the deep but work in their neighborhoods. i represent communities called bloomfield hills and birmingham, michigan. these are

very traditionally republican areas that have now turned and they're going to continue to go in our direction. but just as the two voters who you spoke to represent, we've got to not take anything for granted. people are still letting this campaign play out. kamala harris just had the dnc. it was a resounding, strong convention she still has a campaign to run. and as she reminds us when she comes into town, she's the underdog. we're not taking anything for granted. yes. a good pool today certainly feels nice to be slightly outside the margin of error, but we're not leaving anyone behind talking about the economy talking about that opportunity economy message transportation as well, which is very much on the minds of oakland county voters it's funny. >> i spent my my earliest years in farmington hills, michigan, which i believe is in your district, so we're actually quite familiar with it. my whole family's from the detroit area originally i want

to ask you how do you think kamala harris and vice president harris is handling this question around israel and palestine. >> the war in gaza, because there is a republican group that is up with an ad in michigan. they're trying to characterize. let me play it for you so that i can get your reaction just in case you haven't seen it. let's watch harris has made herself clear. she stands with israel and the jewish people. she has again and again, she understands the unbreakable bond between the u.s. and israel gwen supporters of free palestine stood up for gaza. harris put them in their place and supporters of free palestine bank hate her i mean, that's a very strong statement there at the end. >> you can understand why republicans might be behind this group. what's your reaction to that? to that? at a.d. and do you believe that harris is threading this needle

correctly i don't know if there's a needle to thread. >> right. this is an incredibly painful issue and it's a war that has gone on for almost a year. we just lost six hostages murdered in the tunnels in gaza. one who's american, seven americans still held there i had a chance to speak to her about this in michigan and laser-focused as vice president, we know the current administration laser-focused on reaching a ceasefire, putting an end to the suffering, and certainly the ongoing suffering for the hostages who cannot be forgotten, but also innocent people in gaza. and so look with this issue and what you see are vice president doing is taking a very strong position. it is somewhat black and white. we stand by our democratic allies. >> our hearts mourn alongside the innocence who are suffering at the hands of terrorism.

>> and there are steps that we need to take. i going to be getting back into session next week in congress, and i fully expect us to we taking some votes on this matter, holding iran and qatar accountable, certainly for harboring some of the hamas terrorists, placing blame on hamas as for the deaths of these hostages and for starting this war. it's not america's war, which certainly is we passed a foreign aid package earlier this year, kasie that was a foreign aid package for democracy around the world. support for taiwan ukraine, israel, and innocent palestinian in gaza who need that humanitarian aid. those trucks are going in. why aren't the hostages coming out? >> all right, congresswoman haley stevens for us this morning, congressman, thank you so much for your time. i hope you come back. i'd love to have you on the show all right. >> straight ahead here on cnn this morning, a new court ruling goes against donald trump the song the former

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accountable for the massacre. six defendants face seven charges, including terrorism conspiracy two, murder us nationals, and conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction, resulting in death demonstrations widening across israel as protests kristen man, prime minister benjamin netanyahu, compromise and reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. hostage families, not confident that their prime minister will respond we met, him in the white house with president biden. will looked him in the eyes and unfortunately are feeling is that he has his own political future ahead of him rather than the safety of our sun. >> it's not just our son. i don't believe that he has the interest of the israeli people well, as his top priority alright, let's go live to jerusalem and bring in ron dermer. >> he's israeli minister of strategic affairs and a former israeli ambassador to the united states, mr. dermer.

thank you very much for being with us. i want to start with these hostage thank you. i want to start with the hostage families. what would you say to families who feel that the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has continued to move the goalposts in negotiations with hamas as they try to bring their loved ones home. >> well, kasie, i don't think we can judge any hostage family with what they're going through. i don't think any of us can imagine even one minute of the torment and all of israel is in mourning still after several days after six of those hostages were executed, what i can tell all the hostage families is that their government is working king to bring those hostages home. there were 250 hostages who were taken on october 7 in that savage attack, which murdered 1,200 israelis we have brought back around 150 of those hostages, including 110, were brought battle back alive. and

we're committed to bringing all the rest of the hostages home. >> mr. dermer clearly, we showed video of people on the streets of israel. they're angry about how this has been handled. should they not be angry at the government? >> well i, think everybody in israel should be angry, but we should all be angry at hamas because they're the ones that are preventing any deal from happening. and they're the ones that are responsible for the execution of six hostages, including american hersh goldberg, poland, which his struggle of of rachel and jon, his parents i think is inspired everybody across the world and the dignity that they brought to this struggle in raising awareness about the promise, so there should be angry and i was pleased right before i came on the air, i was listening to your show and you had a congresswoman from michigan who said she wants to go back to washington and she wants to hold those people to account he wants to hold the government of iran and qatar for supporting and financing and harboring hamas. i think that's very important. i think it was

important what the justice department did yesterday and saying they're going to bring charges against hamas command is responsible for the plight of the hostages we will be prepared to do everything we can to bring those hostages home. and we're still committed to doing that. were working very closely even in the last couple of days, we've continue to work closely with our american counterparts parts. we had negotiators who met with their counterparts. and hopefully there'll be deal that hamas will agree to because up until this point they haven't agreed to anything. they haven't agreed to any proposal that was put forward. there are a lot of people who believe unfortunately mistakenly that there's some deal on the table that hamas has agreed to that the israeli government does not agree to. that is simply not true. we're working to get to that deal. i hope we can do that soon what do you say to we played a little a little bit of sound from some of those families of hostages. >> there are some who argue that the israeli prime minister's political interests are at odds with a deal that would bring their family members home. is that true?

>> no, it's not. and we just had a decision in the israeli cabinet that it wasn't the prime minister who stood alone. he stood with almost his entire security cabinet and i'm a member of that cabinet. and so we're all united and obviously everyone in israel on all sides of the political aisle, frankly, kasie, everyone wants to bring the hostages home. and i believe everybody we are nearly everybody in israel wants to see hamas destroyed in gaza. the question is, how do you achieve both of those goals? we are prosecuting this war and our goal and prosecuting this war is to dismantle hamas its military capabilities to end its political rule in gaza, and to ensure that october 7 never happens again, that gaza does not pose a threat to israel so we have another goal, which is to bring those hostages home. we haven't fully achieved that goal, as i said, we brought nearly 150 hostages out, 110 of them, or buy and we committed to achieving that goal as well. the government of israel is committed to bringing those hostages home. >> all right, ambassador ron dermer for us this morning, sir. very grateful to have you on the program. i hope it come

back. thank you thank you all right. 54 minutes past the hour. here's your morning round the scope of what she was capable of doing this shocking. >> i'm curious outraged by this behavior and let the process play out a former aide to two new york governors have been charged with acting as a foreign agent for the chinese government. sources tell cnn that her home was raided by federal investigators in july. the former staffer along with her husband arrested tuesday at their long island residence an event set for donald trump's bedminster resort, honoring january 6, suspects has been postponed. the j6 awards gala was close to happen thursday that now has been put on hold. no future time or date announced. donald trump had been invited to speak, but he did not confirm if he was attending the federal judge

ruling. donald trump must stop using that song. hold on. i'm comin at his rallies, the decision coming after the estate of the late r&b artist and songwriter isaac hayes asked for an emergency injunction to stop the former president from using the song far from ever playing the music of isaac hayes again i can ask for a better decision and we are now just six days away from what could be the pivotal moment in this, in this election. the first debate between donald trump and kamala harris, cnn now reporting the vice president will start her preparations in pittsburgh on thursday. she will remain in pittsburgh until the debate next week on september 10 on abc, she was just there earlier this week campaigning with president biden her opponents, signaling he's going to take a different approach to getting ready i'm not spending a lot of time on it. i think my whole life i've been preparing for a debate. >> you have to be real you can't cram knowledge into your head for 30 years of knowledge

in one way, you have to know your subject and i think i know my subject. >> i think i know it better than anybody all right. >> our panel is back matt gorman, is that the best approach to debate prep? >> that is the exact same answer he gave them. remember vividly when he was climbing down his plane and cleveland an august 2015 that i've brands my whole life. i was working for jeb bush the time his answer has not changed two things. number one, he prepped a lot more than people think. i mean, that a good way it's a compliment for that first debate expected this time, there's always a tension between how much do you, do, you do interviews, do things like basically things like batting practice. you see some live pictures, or do you go to ground and really do wreck straight debate prep? it's always a difference in style. >> well, and elliot williams there are people that argue that president biden prepares for the debate that ultimately write saw the conclusion of his political picking up on matt's point. a lot of this is about the expectations game. what do you do to prepare the country to see your opponent? now a lot of people aren't, aren't familiar with kamala harris is a debater and it probably does not serve former president well

to suggest that she's not ready, are not prepared because i think books will get their heads that she's not a skilled debater, having been a prosecutor that could serve her well, but we'll just have to say yeah. >> so this is how our jamal simmons put it on our air earlier this week. let's watch but somebody's got to be like somebody's got to sit there and really pepper her and get her to get annoyed and aggravated because that's probably what trump's going to do and what you want her to do with the workout that aggravation in prep and not do it when she's on stage kendrick markov you know, i'd be interested our friend fully brightness what's coming on the show somewhat regularly until suddenly somebody needed some debate prep. he has played trump in the past is that the key here to basically over and over and over again get somebody used to, someone saying the worst possible things to them there will be no one better to and be honest about that. he will be great, but i mean, that's the truth. you have to simulate it when you've never done it before, when you've never gone

and debated donald trump, it's a whole different world than it, than it was before when you are practicing against the primary when she was practicing against her fellow democrats i also, you know, mike pence do you want to practice harder than you play it? you want them to see more than you'd see in the a great line that got set on npr yesterday. but could tangy brown jackson talking about her prep for the supreme court was you can either get angry or you can be supreme court justice. and i think they prepared her to sort of deal with some of the attacks without without losing recall. and i think that's probably what they're dealing with, right? >> interesting version of you can get angry and giddey all right. i will leave you with this that's my that's all i need or honey ace let's rename it yeah. >> apparently. >> serena approved. there is of course the mint julep at the kentucky derby. there's the pimm's cup at wimbledon, but now it's the honey deuce cocktail at the u.s. open it is

expected to rake in over 10 million in sales before the event concludes this weekend. that's enough to cover the championship prize money for the male and female singles winner combined, the honey deuce is a mix of vodka, lemonade, and a raspberry liqueur along with its signature melon balls. you see them they're on that cocktail skewer it is get this $23. but you do get to keep the cop that's okay. world number two, aryna sabalenka may just have boosted sales of the honey deuce even more with this offer to new york tennis fans wait, drinks on you. is that what you said what, is $23 times the number of people in that audience? >> quite a bit thank you. maybe we'll get, maybe we'll get a round of a friday friday morning around of honeydew on the table or thank you guys for being here. thanks to all of you for joining us as well.