timothy. his name is timothy pearson. we also know there were other people within the police department who against their cell phones that are personal devices, were all taken by the fbi in some sort of fdi some sort of investigation being conducted out of the southern district of new york. now, let's hear from eric adams about this most recent seizure of his top people i think it's important to allow the process to take place right now this review is showing that we are complying with it and we're going to continue to do so. and here's what i've done all my life. i'm going to i know what i'm going to do. and that is information that's needed to show that i've always follow the law, were going to give that information now adams up for reelection next year. of course, those who are vying for the top spot here in new york city, taking jabs at this latest news, it is important to note though john, that there

has been no criminal charges, no. any charges filed yet about any of those people that we just mentioned, including the mayor alright. >> a lot going on though. brynn gingrass. thank you very much for that a new hour of cnn, new central starts right now information. >> for you we are standing by for the first court appearances in just minutes of the 14-year-old accused of killing two students down. to teachers at a georgia high school, and we've just learned that his father, who was also arrested and charged in this case will be in the same courtroom. just an hour later also breaking this hour, one of the most anticipated job reports, possibly since the pandemic that could change the game for mortgages, credit race, and possibly the presidential election and as well. >> and show me the money, the harris campaign's richest overflowing of a major august haul, nearly tripled at of donald trump's uncertified are with john berman, kate bolduan

out today. >> this is cnn new central cnn breaking news all right and we are standing by for the first court appearance from the suspected georgia school shooter. >> we did learn moments ago that this will no longer be virtual. the 14-year-old will appear in person. we also just learned his father, who is also charged perished in this case, will appear in court in-person after his son let's get right to cnn's rafael romo outside the court. a lot of new information coming in. raphael what do we expect that's right, john, a lot of new information here and we're now less than 30 minutes away from the first hearing for the suspect, it will happen here at the barrow county courthouse at a 30 am local time, man and a new development. >> we have now confirmed that 14-year-old colt gray will make his first appearance in person and not virtually as previously

announced. then we have also just confirmed that the father 54-year-old, colin gray, will be arraigned at 9:30 a.m. eastern local time. meaning only an hour later here at the same courthouse in the same courtroom? colt gray has been charged with four counts of felony murder. he has been held at gainesville regional youth detention center and a significant significant development overnight, the georgia bureau of investigation is confirmed that colin gray, the father of the apalachee high school shooter, has been arrested and charged in connection with the crime the 54-year-old is now facing eight counts of cruelty to children in the second degree, two counts of involuntary manslaughter in the second-degree. >> in another four counts of involuntary manslaughter why did authorities decide to charge the suspect's father? >> this is what georgia bureau of investigation director chris hosey, have to say about it these charges stem from mr. gray knowingly allowing his

son, colt to possess a weapon that he is in custody at this time? >> the arrest was made when we had the probable cause to make the arrest and overnight, we have also learned that both father and son had been on law enforcement's radar for at least two years in july of 2022, john, the family was evicted from their home and as part of that eviction, sheriff's deputy he's called, like the three guns including an ar-15 rifle for safekeeping weapons that were later returned to the family in may of last year, deputies interviewed both holt and colin gray after the fbi flagged online threats at an unidentified location, but the sun denied any involvement. >> and last december, colin gray purchased the gun that was allegedly used in the mass shooting, u.s. a. holiday present for christmas, for his son, john sara, back to you? >> yeah, it's going to be a busy morning there, rafael, please keep us posted as you see things develop and

remarkable development there with us now is cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe, also with us cnn security cord correspondent josh campbell. josh, i'm going to start with you first because you have some new reporting. there were these writings by the suspect. what what did you find out about what was in those well, law enforcement sources tell us that after the shooting, authorities executed a search warrant at the home of the shooter and in his bedroom, they found various writings. >> they believe that he had authored that made reference to pass shootings, including the 2018 massacre in parkland. and we're talking to experts. this is so common when you look at past shooters, when any and i were fbi agents, we had a colleague named katherine schweit, who helped pioneer the fbi's active shooter response program. she was on yesterday with our colleague, brianna keilar, and she made the point that look, teenagers don't start out as five-year-olds who just want to become shooters. but what we see so often, particularly aggrieved children, perhaps so those who are experiencing some type of

mental health struggle, they look at past shooters, they conduct research as catherine had mentioned they emulate the clothing that they wear at the type of ammunition, the type of weapon that they use. there techniques. and so sad that we've seen this before. so it's not that surprising in this case that we see those past references to pass a shootings. cnn also reported yesterday that the shooter had a social media account that had made reference to the sandy hook shooter. so sadly, this is so common, of course, looking ahead, the question, well, what can parents do about it? there's this question about how much privacy should a child have, particularly in their own bedroom? so many times we see in these shootings, that agreement children have the warning signs they're only a concern parent would actually look those are really good points the parents do have some role in at least trying to see what their children are up to andrew. >> we do know that the fbi did contact his family just last year because of a tip about some of the child's writings concerning school shootings and the parents at the time they

were they were told that he didn't really have access two guns, so nothing came of it. and now here we are. can we extrapolate that the reason that the father is now charged and charged with something that no other parent in the country has been charged with. and one of these mass shootings, which is second degree murder, as well as involuntary manslaughter can we extrapolate that the reason these charges came? is because eventually he did allow his son to have a gun and knew because of the past visit from law enforcement that he was having these ideations sure sara. so there's a there's a few things that we know. absolutely. we know because of the statements made by the georgia bureau of investigations folks that he's been arrested because of his knowingly giving or enabling his son to have this weapon. so we know that it's based on that. it's a little bit harder to line out exactly what the charges are addressing factually, because we haven't

seen the indictment or the affidavit supporting the indictment yet. but i can tell you that the crime of it's a little odd because we know there's only two counts of second-degree murder, and we know we have for victims under georgia law defining second-degree murder is defined as when in the commission of cruelty to children in the second degree, a person causes the death of another human being irrespective of malice, cruelty to children in the second degree. sorry for the long lesson here is a crime that is committed when someone with criminal negligence causes a child under the age of 80 18, cruel or excessive physical or mental pain. those two second-degree murder charges are likely risk relative to the two student victims of the shooting. the two students who we know have are now deceased.

but again, we'll have a better understanding of exactly how all this it's works when we do finally get to see a copy of the affidavit are indictment i want to go back to you now, josh, in this particular case and we talked about the father so being charged with just talk about how unusual this is that you have a father and son. >> they're going to be in the same courtroom one after the other, one, an hour after the other, appearing before a judge. both of them charged in a mass shooting well, you know, this makes me wonder whether this perhaps as a new trend that we're going to see with prosecutors around the country. >> we know, for example, in the case of the oxford high school shooting in michigan, both of the shooter's parents were prosecuted in that case that pertain to access to the weapon all three of us sadly covered that 2022 mass shooting near chicago at a july 4 parade, where the shooter was eventually taken into custody, but they learned that police had visited the home of the

shooter shooter because there were concerns that he would conduct some type of violence. but then after that, his father allegedly allowed him access to a weapon, essentially signed off on him getting permit for a weapon, that process that father just pleaded guilty to recklessness. and so again, you have to wonder if this is a trend. we're now going to start seeing reminds me a lot of the fentanyl epidemic. we're starting to see prosecutors go after dealers, for example, if their product kill someone, they're being charged with murder. so i think this is the justice system coming in, bringing all that it has to bear to try to ensure that this doesn't happen again can we keep seeing it happen? andrew mccabe, we did actually appreciate the law lesson. i did certainly. and josh campbell, thank you both so much. appreciate it. john me to john did to save this morning, donald trump speaking of law lesson, we'll be in a new york courtroom to appeal a verdict that found him liable for sexual abuse. >> and a cnn exclusive u.s. intelligence model during increased activity from the russian military concerns. now

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writer e. >> jean carroll, cnn's kara scannell is outside court where we expect to see trump very shortly here. kara, what can you tell us about what's going to happen in court today yes. >> sara so donald trump will be arriving shortly to attend this appeals court argument and he'll be squaring off against e. jean carroll to appeal that $5 million verdict, and the jury finding that he had sexually abused carroll and defamed her when he denied it and criticized her appearance. so both sides will only have about ten minutes to make their arguments trump's lawyers are expected to say that the trial judge made mistakes by allowing two other women who had accused trump of sexual assault for testifying and also allow playing the jury to hear the access hollywood tape where trump is caught on that hot mic making comments about how you can just easily grope women. there, saying that never should have come in. carroll's lawyers say that that is all evidence of trump's mo and that it was fair game for the jury to hear that were not expecting a decision today. this will just be the oral arguments and unlike some of trump's other appearances in court, like his

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phrase, decision calculus. they believe that russia may be more likely to carry out operations now to damage these cables, they have an entire unit set up to do so, it is known as the general staff main directorate for deep research. it goes by the initials gui gui gi. this has been around for a long time, but what's notable here, john, is that they then adding additional resources to this group which operates as you see there surface ships, submarines, and naval drones. additional resources to this unit, even in the midst of the ukraine war, even as its devoting so much to the ongoing invasion of ukraine, it has maintained this unit highly secretive, one highly protected of one. as as a priority for the kremlin an attack or sabotage or something like these undersea cables, what will the impact of that be? i think folks aren't aware of just how much of our lives depend on these cables that the

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mickey mouse doll, and will remember that that was me. schumer harms family there they are there they're holding that and it just reminds you he was supposed to be taking a trip to disney world and that of course, has never going to happen now, those families obviously just devastated city in this court watching this unfold, knowing that they'll never see their loved ones once again, that is just heartbreaking it truly, truly is. those are the victims there. richard aspinwall, christina irimie, to teachers, and richard was also a coach and mason and christian all of, them gone. let's now take a look at what's happening in court. there's a little bit of movement there. we are waiting to see this first all right, with us now, defense and trial attorney misty marris. >> misty walk us through what actually will happen in this courtroom over the next few minutes absolutely. >> heart wrenching scene here as we watch this unfold. >> so this is an arraignment hearing. >> that means that each individual defendant will be advised of the charges against

them by the judge at that point, they can enter a plea. right now. it's unclear whether or not there's representation will see whether or not they had assigned counsel defense attorneys, who will be present. the next step would beach to talk about potential bail or release and then and that fourth schedule for the next appearances that will take place of going down the line. it's a very procedural hearing, but there are going to be some aspects to look for here, specifically relating to representation for each individual person and whether or not what plea they're going to enter. that will show how this is going to play out moving forward this is a really unusual case in some ways because usually the parents of the suspect that is this young 14-years-old. >> he's now being charged into adult are in the courtroom or they have at least some parental guidance. we now know his father has been arrested on

charges two second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter just how does this work? i mean, he has no representation, obviously, his parent is now jailed so how will this work with the courts? >> so right now, sara, that was actually something that was pretty shocking that happens. so we've seen parents arrested for the acts of their children before we covered this all together with the crumbley case, but this case is a bit different. and also that arrest was so fast for the father to be arrested so quickly. usually you would see a more protracted investigation especially with these novel theories of law and so today you're seeing both being arraigned at the same time. so at this point there's going to be different issues with respect to each individual defendant first, we had a minor. now he's automatically being charged with an as an adult in this case because of

the severity of the actions and the allegations in this case but will they challenge that with respect to the father? is he going to request veil? >> we don't know exactly what's going to happen and as this plays out, but i will say it will be interesting to see the probable cause affidavit against the father because that arrest and the charges, four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a legal theory we've seen before ignoring a risk that was apparent pacifically in this case that there was a violent propensity of his son and then having a gun accessible, we know that he purchased the gun that was used in the shooting in december of 2023 and gifted it to his son. >> that's going to be the legal theory that there's another charge here second degree murder, that is a completely different legal theory than we've seen well, we, for so what, if anything, his defense attorney is going to raise at this arraignment. we'll see as

time goes on but, josh's walked in, let's listen for a moment and good morning, everyone. >> my name is curry mingle door, but i'm assigned to preside over this morning's proceedings. we're here for limited purpose this morning i do want to note for everyone's benefit that there is as everyone certainly is aware considerable interest in what has occured in our community in the last several days. but that reason the court has seen fit under rule 22 of the spirit court uniform spirit court rules to allow media outlets to record some of these proceedings. >> however under those rules of the court has set in place certain limitations and i just want everyone to know that the media has been informed of that

and i'm confident that they will comply with that. >> but otherwise, there is to be no filming or recording by any members of the public or any other individual other than those authorized specifically by the court and it's signed ruling are we ready, counsel, to begin and bring the defendant in safe, right. all all right. >> defenses? right. >> all right all right. >> good morning. sure. you mr. colt gray my name's corey mingled or if i'm assigned to preside over this morning's proceedings mr. gray, i do need to inquire as to whether you're able to read and write english language all right i also want to inform you. well, i want to

ask you, do you understand that you have the right to be represented by an attorney in these proceedings? and you are in fact represented today. is that correct? mr. zain harmon, you're here on behalf of this defendant. is that right? >> yes, your honor all right. >> and you understand you have the right to be continuously represented throughout this proceeding. and court cannot afford to be to hire counsel in this court is obligated under the constitution to provide counsel for you without cost to you all right. i'm going to inform you of a few other matters and i'm not going to ask you anything, just inform you so one is i want to make sure that you are aware that you have the right to remain silent. you don't have to say anything at all. and it's important to understand that because anything you might say could be used against you at further proceedings associated with your case i want to inform

you of the charges you currently face in essence, you are charged with four counts of felony murder. as outlined in in the state warrants that have been issued against you i want to make you aware that the maximum penalty for felony murder for each count, the maximum penalty is that you could be punishable by death by imprisonment for life without parole, or by imprisonment for life with the possibility of parole if you have any questions about these charges, then i would urge you to discuss those with your attorney i would invite you, mr. harman, to inform the court as to whether there's a request for bond at this time? >> at this time, we honor. there is not a request for bond. we will file the appropriate motions if that

becomes necessary all right an indictment by the grand jury for most felony offenses are accusations well, you have the right to receive an indictment for these offenses, and i assume mr. brad smith this year on behalf of the da's office or he is our district attorney and he's accompanied by ms patricia brooks, who is his chief assistant. a preliminary hearing. you have the right also to a preliminary hearing unless you make bond, which of course at this point there's no bond been requested or unless you wave such a hearing you have the. right to a speedy and public trial by judge or jury you have the right to confront and cross-examine all witnesses. you have the right to call witnesses on your own behalf and testify in your own defense. if you so choose as

you sit here in this courtroom today, under the law, you are presumed innocent you are refusal to testify at any point in any proceeding will not be used against you in determining whether you are guilty or not guilty. counsel, let me just inquire as to whether there are any other items that the court should address before we conclude this preliminary hearing do you have one piece of information to convey to the court? >> there was the development yesterday afternoon that makes it necessary for office to have alternate counsel appointed and arrangements have already been made in that regard, a birdie explain that to mr. gray. alternate counts so it will be appointed by the end of the day today all right. >> thank you very much. ms donna seagraves alright. then with that, this hearing has

concluded, and you may escort this defendant out. >> wow just watching this 14-year-old coming into court listening to those charges, which he was told could be punished so old by death. the judge is still speaking a little bit about, let's listen to what the judges say. >> conduct that unless everyone's ready to proceed with that i think i think that i i told the media outlet that i would recess briefly to allow them to kind of reconfigure what they're doing. and so we'll be in recess for a short time until i'm informed that that everyone's ready. >> all right. so what you're hearing there is judge mingled dorf saying they're going to recess because the father is now going to come in all of the council said they're ready the so that's going to happen very shortly here. >> but that picture of the

14-year-old, it took your breath away to see how young he was, how small he was. and yet you have all these people in the audience it's 18 family members of the four killed, devastated because he's accused of taking their lives and they were lined up behind him watching this hearing as it took place in terms of what actually transpired, there was not a plea entered here. >> we did learn that he was represented by counsel, that counsel may change over the course of the day, but he had a lawyer, right there beside him and there was no request for bond at this moment. and then the defendant there and i'm not going to speak his name. the defendant there was told that the sentence for the crimes for which he's charges, the maximum sentence could be death, something for 14-year-old to hear. let's get to misty marris, who was also watching that's along with u.s. just your takeaway from what you heard from the judge. this is obviously a routine thing, but there is nothing routine about seeing a child in this position and knowing that

he's accused of taking other children and teachers lives at this young age and charged as an adult absolutely. >> and when you see this 14-year-old sitting there behind the defense table is truly stunning. >> but what we saw unfold in the courtroom we saw what is a procedural hearing. >> but as you stated, sara nothing mundane about this one so what did we learn? we learned that he had defense counsel, however, it sounds like for some reason maybe there's a conflict of interests, something of the like defense counsel is going to be replaced by the end of the day. the judge asked if there was going to be an application for bond that would be some form of released requesting released from the defendants. but defense attorneys said no, that means that he will be remaining in a juvenile detention center even though he's charged as an adult in georgia from the ages of 13 to 17, anytime served takes place in a juvenile

detention center because of his young age. so he's going to remain there. the next thing we heard was that he has the right to happy indicted by a grand jury or to have a preliminary hearing. we know this is a basic tenet of the criminal law that you have to be formally indicted in some ways, standard being probable cause, sometimes defendants waves that in a case like this week could see the defense actually wade it bears and say, let's just move on to trial and assess whether or not there's going to be a plea deal, not guilty or guilty that's the next step. >> a preliminary hearing is liking many trial. that's why we heard the judge set forth all of the rights that the defendant has. if this were to go to and every hearing, that there would be the opportunity to cross-examine witnesses and the opportunity for the defense to testify then we heard the judge asked a few questions at the beginning. one of the

reasons we're dealing with a minor here, sara john, this is what we were speaking about before we have someone 14-years-old, although he's represented he's technically under the law, not competent to make his own decisions. and i'm not talking about competent and the layman's term just the children are not able to enter into contracts. they can't make legal decisions for themselves in a situation like this. >> since his father is also facing charges, we don't know about the status of his mother, whether or not she's going to be involved in his trial. >> sometimes there's what's called a guardian ad litem who is appointed to oversee the case and help a minor make these determinations? >> we also did not hear and i would expect this to come at some point. >> a request for an independent mental health evaluation in cases where you have just the most horrific facts like this, a mass shooting a defense attorney is going to say this person should have a mental health evaluation, determine whether or not there's

potential defense or whether they're competent to stand trial. so those are all the issues we would expect to see moving forward. >> misty marris our thanks to you again, we still have our eye in that courtroom. they are in recess temporarily because the father of the accused shooter will be brought into that same corner. courtroom for a very similar hearing shortly you're looking at live pictures right there. it looks like they may not wait terribly long for this second part. and from a legal standpoint this is the novel part of what we're seeing here. so we will go back to that courtroom the minute things happen. i do also have to say there is other breaking news. we just got a new jobs report and being called the most important jobs report of the year will tell you what the numbers show right after this let's clear the air about air, unlike the breeze, lysol air sanitizer is the only product uniquely formulated to lemon8 owners in term 99.9% of viruses and bacteria in the air because sent can't sanitize lysol can

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new jobs numbers just in these could be the most important numbers of the year with us julia chatterley. >> what do they show and what do they mean? >> i've got good news and bad news. the good news is that it shows a slowing jobs market, not a collapsing jobs market. the bad news is it's not going to help address the question of what the fed does later this month. but you can push me if you want to. see what we got is the jobs added for last month, 142,000 jobs that's less than expected. we were hoping for around 160,000 the better news is that the unemployment rate actually fell. so a lot of people that were on temporary layoffs last month in that july number that was weaker actually came back into the workforce. so that's a good sign the danger in the slight warning sign in these numbers, the revisions to what we saw in july, july actually was the big fear factor, the recession warning that people were talking about. those numbers were revised lower. so would june's numbers. so there's a

little warning sign in the revisions again next month, this is a very important point until next month's data, we'll watch that to see whether we see revisions again. but if you look at the past three months once actually overall this does show a little bit of a pickup in the amount of jobs that were added, net over the month. but the revisions lower to june and july are warning where we were adding construction health care, where we lost a little bit in manufacturing. there will be some alerts. as i said, this doesn't address i think the question of what the fed does but the underlying data in this is still pretty good wages picked up a little bit. there's reasons to be optimistic, even in a slowing jobs market were just picked up a little more than expected. the revised down for june and july, maybe not the bratsummer the economy brat summer i'm looking for but pretty good. so let's talk about what this means for interest rates because the fed meets it's like a week from now. they make an announcement. the issue is and i'll try to explain it simply. you will actually say what it

means, whether or not they cut rates by a quarter point or a half-point, a half-point would be a lot. a quarter point would be about what's expected, but maybe not as much as some people want. >> i think it was perfectly explained. borrowers out there, they'd love that half a percentage point cut. this data, doesn't tell you what they're going to do. i hate to say to say it i'll go out in a limb and say, i think they do a quarter of a percentage point, i think based on this data, based on what we get in inflation data next week, i think if they came out in september and it's september the 18th is the date and said, look, we're going to cut half a percentage point it could create a bit of a fear factor. what did they know and see that we aren't seeing still in the data? >> it may be the news today was good enough, so they don't take more extreme measures of for some people, the good news made end up being bad news, but it's all sort of measured exactly alright, julia chatterley. thank you very much for that. we will try to see what the ripple effects will be on the market over the course of the morning. thank you.

sara. >> all right. thank you, john, as we wait to see the father of the accused shooter in the school shooting in georgia? come into court there is plenty of politics at play here. we have also gotten some new information on kamala harris and her huge cash advantage right now, her campaign said it raked in 361 million in august, nearly triple that of donald trump's fundraising haul of $130 million the harris campaign now $404 million in cash reserves, the trump team working with 295 million dollars in its stockpile at this moment, joining us now cnn political commentator and republican strategist, shermichael singleton also former campaign manager for president obama's 2012 presidential campaign. jim messina. thank you, gentlemen, for being here. i want to begin with the big money haul we will get to that. but but because of what's happening and because of what we have been seeing these, these just mind numbing pictures of a child going into court i'm 14-years-old charges

in adult and all of the parents sitting behind who lost their family members and family members of the teachers watching all this happen, both j.d. vance and vice president kamala harris both had something to say about this. kamala harris says, i should never happen in our country. we have to do something about gun violence. and here's what j.d. vance had to say about it. >> clearly, strict gun laws is not the thing that is gonna solve this problem what is going to solve this problem? and i really do believe this is look, i don't like this. i don't like to admit this. i don't like that this is a fact of life but if you're, if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets and we have got to bolster security at our schools what do you make of those comments? one of the things that struck some people is the fact of life thing and while it is true that that is something that we've had to deal with in this country over and over and over again do you think that was a good answer, miller, politically, you're looking at about 10 million unregistered

gun owners in this country. sarah, you look at some of the battleground states, pennsylvania, those around 500,000 of them unregistered, around 175,000 it's an unregistered in georgia. and so i think from the campaign's perspective, they're looking at this. do we potentially turn off those voters that we will absolutely need? and what will be a march? generally close race and i think in these types of tragedies, you certainly want to recognize the horror that occurred. you want to recognize the lives that were lost. but we are in a campaign season and i think j.d. vance recognizes that and he's recognizing the dynamics that you cannot risk turning off voters at you absolutely need. and donald trump already has scared this isn't from those voters because of the bump stock ban that he signed. that's a big issue. >> jim messina, what did you hear there? and though kamala harris has not given a he a robust plan on what she would do to stop this gun violence, especially gun violence in schools. she said it should never happen again. what do you think of how the two? candidates there handle this

look, this race is going to come down to these swing women voters in the suburbs that you're michael and i focus so much on and j.d. >> vance telling them that he wants to turn their schools into prisons to keep their kids safe, isn't going to work with these voters. they are sick of words ukraine about their kids and it continues in the fact that this is incident that happened in the swing state of georgia just magnifies the politics here. and i think you'll see the harris campaign be very strong and i think this will be a big issue in the debate next it's weak because these swing women voters that we're following are going to look at jd vance's answer and say, hey, that's not the route we want to go down i wouldn't do talk about money because it does play a role of course, in politics. >> it doesn't mean you win just because you have the bigger war but it does. he kamala harris has this huge haul, including 1.3 million from brand new donors should donald trump be worried about? >> so sarah, when you teed this up, you're talking about he

has almost tripled the amount that trump currently as well in 2016, that was the same dynamic for hillary clinton. we underestimated trump's performance with voters run to estimated his ability because he didn't have enough money. i'm not convinced and so at this point that that's going to matter in an interesting way, donald trump has been able to target and penetrate voters despite the cash deficit when compared to the other side. does it help kamala harris buy more ads, get to more places it certainly does. but in a unique way, donald trump has seemed to be able to penetrate that despite the cash default, jim are we in unchartered times? because as shermichael points out, the balances here haven't always helped the candidate that was running against donald trump well, we are i mean, sara one hand. i'm sad because i used to hold the record for most race and the presidential race and that the harris campaign is going to blow that petition is rahel and i think in general i agree with michael that money is less important in presidential elections. that

said, you need ads and you need the field operations in these voters that we're talking about. you need robust field operations and that's where the harris campaign has a math asif advantage over trump. she has like seven to one in the battleground states of offices open a paid staff on the ground. and that's the question. also, i want to point out that it's not 2016. trump has a huge negative. they didn't have their he's running for the third time he's kinda kept at these numbers and he's got to find some way to change this race. and having kamala harris and her money sitting on top of in these battleground states is not going to be helpful in the final 60 days sir, if i could just really quickly, i get jim's point and he's right. the money does help in terms of opening up field operation offices, you need them to be able to target voters in those states with, the trump campaign is doing this time around from my understanding, is depending on other outside groups that support the campaign to do that work on the ground, i would also push back a little bit and say this race is still close

despite the deficit, despite not being able to put as many ads and some of those battleground states you're still looking at a race that's in the margin of error. you but can i just say like pennsylvania where 16% of the voters are still undecided, this could go either way thank you to the both of you for talking us through. >> and again, we are watching see what happens in court with the school of accused school shooter and his father, jim messina, shermichael singleton. thank you both so much for coming on all right. >> happening getting now, we are waiting for the father of the suspected georgia school shooter to make his first court appearance. just moments ago, his 14-year-old son was this chubb to cover hearing you're looking at those pictures from just a short time ago. he learned more about the four felony murder charges he faces that the judge said can be punishable by death families of the four vicms