family members of the astronauts who are left back on earth, you know, butchers kids, and a wife. sunny has husband and some dogs that she says basically her children. so you know, speaking is the daughter of two former nasa astronauts. it's it's often tougher on the families that are left behind on earth in the astronauts themselves who get stuck up there. but i don't want to speak for from and sunny, i'm sure garrett and katie have some thoughts on that as well. >> well, let me tell you something. i i'm not married to an astronaut, but i would have one heck of a honeydew list when he got home right now, thank you so much. >> you're in space. what are you doing up there? i'm good all this. it will be a whole conversation you y'all. thank you so much, everyone. and nasa is going to be holding a press conference in the next hour. you'll be able to see that right here on cnn. can our coverage is going to continue after a very quick break just

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starliner is back on that landing coming at 11:01 and 35 seconds central time well, the astronauts who was supposed to return on starliner remain on the space station astronauts suni williams and butch wilmore will return to earth on space x flight in february, making their way. >> what terry virts, a former nasa astronaut and retired air force colonel, he joins us live from houston, texas. good to have you with us thanks for having me, lynda it's starliner was expected to hit its mark at 12 or 3:00 a.m. at it touched down a minute or two early. >> how would you describe that touchdown? >> well, look pretty good. there was no one inside to report on what it actually felt like. but when i landed in the space shuttle, it was a nice, gentle, i'll call it an air force landings since i'm an air force pilot myself, just like landing and airliner on a runway when i landed in a

russian soyuz capsule it was more like being in a bowling ball the thing really hit the ground hard at threaded and then it roll it spun 360 degrees around. it was like being in a bowling ball. the boeing capsule look pretty gentle from what you can see from that video. they had nice soft airbags. so we'll see when the cruise fly hopefully next year we'll see what they say, but it didn't look too bad. >> yeah, it certainly looked to be a smooth landing. of course, when it docked back on the international space station in early june 5 of the 28 thrusters have malfunctioned one of those was taken offline today due to performance concerns. what role do those thrusters play on re-entry that's a good question. >> i actually have a starliner model here so after the capsule undocked from the international space station, the thrusters or in the back part in this area. and this is called the service module it may point the

spaceship they pointed in the right direction then they have some big thrusters that fire and slow the capsule down by a few hundred miles an hour and then it comes back and lands. but before it comes back to earth it's separates. this is called the cme or command module, and the crew is in here with the parachutes and that's what we saw the landing the service module where those small rockets that they had the problems with it. it also de-orbit itself, but it burns up in the atmosphere and so they're never going to get those jets back that they had the problems with. they got lots and lots of data. they've done a lot of tests, they've had it up there for months. but this is the part that comes back with the crew in it this part burns up and so they're never going to actually get the physically test the rockets that they had problems with. >> it's good to see that modal on that explanation of course, you said this is the craft that the astronauts come back in that didn't happen. of course sub which wilmore and suni williams were meant to be gone for eight days now could be eight months why did nasa make

the call to leave them up there and wasn't the right call well, i certainly wasn't in those meetings that i left nasa a few years ago. >> they they really wanted to be sure that there wouldn't be cascading problem after problem after problem. they didn't think there would be the likelihood of that happening was really low. but it was above their threshold, so they just decided to be safe and make sure i fully expected this to be a successful landing. boeing's already had two landings, so this is the third unmanned landing that they've had with this capsule i didn't think there'll be a problem, but i think you need to be more certain than i don't think there's going to be a problem. so the nasa managers couldn't get to that point the good. news is they know what caused the problem that the thrusters were basically overheating. so they think there's a redesign they can do, but that's gonna be the big question. is boeing good to put in the effort to get these things redesigned and they're not even boeing thrusters. boeing's getting all the bad press. there's a

company called aaro jet rocket dine that made these thrusters that had the problems. so there's gonna be a lot of decisions to be made to figure out what needs to happen. so that we can flight crew on this thing next because spacex is going to bring them home, but spacex has been grounded. i think until yesterday for the last week or two, they've been grounded they've had a private space tourist mission that they've wanted to fly that hasn't been able to fly now for a week or two because they've had some technical problems. so the reason nasa wants boeing and spacex is so that you have a backup these are rockets. there is always going to be problems you want to have something that, that gives you some backup. and the other option is the russians, which are involved in horrendous evil war in europe. so we don't want to be dependent on a fascist nation that's trying to take over europe. so we really need boeing and spacex to be successful. >> yeah, exactly a former nasa astronaut, terry virts. good to have your insight on this landing of the starliner.

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wednesday's shooting the 14-year-old and his father appeared separately in court on friday to face charges for that shooting that left four people dead. cnn's isabel rosales spoke with one student who came face-to-face with the alleged gunman 14-year-old, bree jones was the first student to lay eyes on colt gray just moments before she says he began his deadly rampage, he knocked on the door i went to i find hone a bag and just pulling a gun out i'm not sure what kind of bag was it, but i see him pulling out of a bag and the girl was so big, right? gray was her classmate and their class, the first he tried to enter. >> she tells cnn, i always look out the door before open-endedness, just like it's a habit my mom taught me but as her teacher instructed her to let him back in, she said, i know he has a gun. if i were to open the door, they like he would have got every single one of us in that class and i don't want me, my teacher my friends in the class, and my other classmates. i don't want

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felony murder in the second-degree. >> you're charged with four counts, felony involuntary manslaughter, he's charged with eight counts of second-degree felony cruelty to children, an arrest warrant for colin gray alleges he gave his son a firearm when he knew his son was a threat to himself and to others. >> it's only the second time a parent has been charged in connection with a mass shooting carried out by their child, gbi has arrested colin gray guilty of last april in an unprecedented case, the parents of ethan crumbley were each sentenced to ten to 15 years for involuntary manslaughter. the da in the case says colt gray may face additional charges. >> you can anticipate there will be new charges on colt gray because we'd never addressed the other victims in the school at apalachee high. >> some students left wondering how they can possibly move forward do you think we'll be able to come back to school yes

because i'm not going to walk in fear isabel rosales winder, georgia, cnn well, joining me now here in atlanta, cnn legal analyst and former u.s. attorney michael moore, good to have you here in studio. thanks for joining us this is only the second time ever in the u.s. where a parent has been charged in connection? with a mass shooting allegedly carried out by by a child in these these charges in this case with his parent, a pretty serious there are serious. >> i mean, i think probably this is not the last case that you'll see where parents charged. you're starting to see an awareness that there should be some parental supervision and that's what we saw in the first case. >> there was tried and there was a conviction in sentence of some length of time recently. >> and that is that there was a the parents should have known around the time that it happened. there was this issue about access to the weapon. >> they had some advanced knowledge about what the child is going through at the time and whether or not there would be problems at the school you

have some of those same factors in this case, you don't necessarily have the exact timeline, but you do have somebody who knew who was reckless, who was sort of wharton and unreasonable in their conduct in the law provides that they can in fact yours criminally as well as the shooter. and in this case, we know that in may last year both the teenager and parent were interviewed by the local sheriff after an fbi tip about a threat of a possible school shooting i've got some of that sound. i just want to play some of that sound by the parent worked i've been was him. >> they are having there's nothing loaded, but they are down we get we actually we do a lot of shooting. >> we do a lot there on he shot his first day of this year so i'm pretty much in shock. >> may be asked well, i'm old off to be even really honest

that event is what was said so he's dad was aware that this threat of a school shooting was made, yet that same year, christmas that year, he gives to his son and ar 15 is then 13-year-old son how is that going to be used by the prosecution? this is probably one of the most crucial pieces of evidence that the prosecutor will have. and that is because it shows the knowledge of the father and actually, he knew that there was this issue with his child beforehand. before he bought a weapon. he also talks about the fact that webb as well earned, loaded, or accessibly said they're down, which tells me they're probably kept in a closet in the corner of a bedroom, something like that. they're not locked up in a safe and then to know that potentially these threats have been made. are these comments have been made by his child earlier and then to go buy this weapon into apparently leave it accessible to the child. it was successful because it got it used it at the school there the day this this is going to be sort of the theme of the prosecutor's case. and

provides that element that the prosecutor's going to have to show, and that is is there some knowledge on the part of this parent about the jasper principles and do some harm. and then a willingness to provide him a weapon where he could take advantage of that and carry out the shootings. this is critical here in the state of georgia or is there any law that says a child, a teenager can't oil possess and ar 15 weapon. there's an interest in law in the state. he talks about a handgun and then it makes it a criminal to give a handgun to a child lock guns have long been protected by the legislature, and that is because they consider them to be hunting weapon, sporting weapons. they don't want to criminalize. father, given his son a gun to shoot at the range or to take out and deer hunt or whatever it is we're going to do. but, but there is some laws that mean that provide a sense of that apparent can't act grossly negligent. you can't have criminal negligence, so

that causes the death of another. and by making this gun accessible but given it to a minor child, knowing that this child was suffering from other factors, whether he was diagnosed by health care professionals, health professional, whatever the parent was obviously aware of it because the law enforcement intervene pictured earlier you know, that's that's in fact fits the statutes in this state and i think that's why you saw a fairly quick decision by the prosecutor to bring charges of the case. it's going to be unusual. and frankly, remember, he's presumed innocent he'll have to have a jury convicted him of these things and that can very frankly from canada, canada, because you're going to have some places where they consider themselves very pro gun. >> yeah. you'll have other places. >> well, we'll be following this case when and they reappearing quite i believe in december, michael moore good to have you here. >> thanks so much you're like well as you saw here live on cnn, just a short time ago, boeing's troubled starliner spacecraft has returned safely to earth. >> but this may not be the end of the starliner's problems have a closer look just ahead, we've seen an aerospace analyst, miles o'brien

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for you, ramirez, saturday, september 14th at nine on cnn welcome back. i'm lynda kincade. you're watching cnn, boeing's starliner is back on earth after a successful landing. take a look touchdown. >> starliner is back on earth. that landing coming at 11 spacecraft is boeing's effort to provide commercial space service for nasa, the starliner program has had numerous problems starliner launched in june and then docked with the international space station. it was supposed to return to earth a week later. that helium leaks and thruster problems prompted nasa to delay the return. seen an aerospace analyst, miles o'brien joins us now from full mouth, massachusetts good to have you with us. mouse is up late at this hour. i have to seeing the starliner land. how do you describe that landing? was that a textbook landing well, lynda yeah, it was a textbook landing. >> one detailed no passengers

which of course, blemishes that good landing by quite a bit everything seemed to work according to plan. of course, they'll be further data that will be revealed as time goes on here. but the thrusters clearly fired as they should the spacecraft was able to thread the needle and re-enter the atmosphere, not too hot, not to not skipping off the atmosphere, parachutes deployed airbags deployed, and the landed pretty much on target right there and white sands, new mexico. so you could say all's well, that ends well, but that would not be right in this case because now begins a very thorough investigation as to what went wrong with this spacecraft. months ago, as it approached the international space station. several of those thrusters, which seemed to work okay, tonight, failed and those answers are still open? >> yeah. exactly. at least five of those thrusters failed. we know there was a helium leak talk to us about the decision

to leave behind the two astronauts have priorities changed when it comes to safety and space travel i think it has, you know, lynda, i go back to challenge her days. >> i'm dating myself a little bit, but on the eve of the challenger launch, the contract or morton thiokol was john and teleconference urging nasa not to launch the contractor said it was too cold and that the o rings wouldn't be able to protect the gases from escaping the hot gases. well, sure enough nasa overrode them and we had the challenger disaster this is the flip side of that. in this case, boeing was urging nasa that it was safe to fly butch and sunny home and nasa resistance saying it was going to err on the side of caution. i think that the management at nasa, having experienced columbia, the lawsuit columbia 2003 and of course challenge at night 1080 1086, the administrator, bill nelson, having flown on the shuttle right before that challenge

remission, all of that was processed into this decision and the decision was made not to take the risks. so i think it says something about where nasa is and how this evolved and talk to us about this collaboration between nasa and boeing because this was a mission that was years behind schedule, more than $1 billion over budget. >> what does this say about boeing's future relationship? we've nasser in space yeah. >> i mean, boeing has been there, lynda since the beginning. if you look at the company and all the companies did as acquired over the years, it's been involved in every program that nasa has flown, including the space station itself. but this one was different in the sense that it was a fixed-price contract previously, boeing has operated with nasa with defense style contracts, cost-plus, as it is called. and there's not a

different set of incentives there when you have a fixed price that you have to deliver a certain thing any any overruns, those costs are borne by the contractor itself. and in this case, boeing perhaps in the space division, wasn't able to adapt to this different kind of doing business in space. what that means for the future is very uncertain. that the company has a lot of other problems, certainly on the civilian airliners side the space portion of it is a separate division. but it might be a scenario where if it is determined a huge redesign is required of this spacecraft, it might not be cost-effective for boeing to march forward. so lots of questions that remain open here. >> and so talk to us more miles about the lessons learned and how that could shape improvements in technology and potential design changes going forward yeah i think it's some of the lessons. unfortunately, were burned up in the

atmosphere tonight the thrusters in question didn't make it home. they were part of a service module portion of the spacecraft which gets jettisoned right before it re-enters the atmosphere. so the smoking gun evidence is gone, which is too bad. now, there has been a lot of data that they've developed while it was on orbit these months as they tested various aspects of how it would fire and so forth. but i think there is a lesson here on from nasa perspective and how much it can safely afford to have a hands off approach to building spacecraft. it has got had great success doing the same type of contracting with spacex but spacex comes at it as a much more nimble completely vertically integrated organization. they built everything themselves. boeing, a more traditional contractor was subcontractors in this case, the thrusters built by a

rocket in and perhaps not able to manage the contract that fixed-price contract in the same way. so maybe they need to think a little differently about how they supervise these programs. >> yeah, exactly. great insight as always, miles o'brien, pleasure having you on the show. thanks so much. >> you're welcome to come. one of the strongest typhoons is nearing yet another landfall when we come back the latest on time yagi, as it intensifies ahead of making landfall in northern vietnam the, smooth running, longest lasting pilot g2 has long been the hero joey and what iran doesn't have a dark side introducing, the g20, which the the same number one selling gelling pen in america now with an innovative laser edge design cushion comfort, grip and durable tungsten

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so far not arrived in that, that every day is costing ukrainian lives. here's what he said. >> the number of air defense system that have not yet been delivered is significant. this is what was agreed upon, and this is what was what has not been fully implemented. the world has enough air defense systems to ensure that russian terror does not have results. i urge you to be more active in this work with us on air defense now, of course, all of this comes as ukraine has suffered some of the most severe russian airstrikes over the past couple of weeks. in fact, in the middle of this week, there was a big strike on the city of poltava, killing more than 50 people and wounding nearly 300 at the same time this monday, there were massive strike on the city of key of justice. children were set to go back to school for the new term. but on top of air defense systems, which ukrainian say are absolutely essential to them, that you training is also say that they need in general, more weapons

and longer distance weapons. and the other thing that they're demanding, specifically from the united states is to lift some of the restrictions on using those longer distance weapons to strike deeper into russian territory. now ukraine's partners, first and foremost, the united states had so said they will continue to provide ukraine with that essential military support for pleitgen. cnn central ukraine is really forces shot and killed a turkish american activists in the occupied west bank while she was taking part in a protest against an illegal israeli settlements the white house is calling for an investigation into the killing of 26-year-old i shai know iggy secretary of state antony blinken says the u.s. is working to gather the facts around that incident and if offered condolences to her family, these really military admitted to firing at the protesters it says it's looking into reports that a foreign national was killed pope francis is now in papua new guinea as he continues his two

of the pacific and southeast asia, the pontiff landed in the capital port moresby and will travel later to vote anymore in the northwest of the country the island nation is at the forefront of places feeling the effects of climate change. and the pope is expected to address that issue he also spoke about women's rights and tribal violence and address the idea of community in what is a hugely diverse country? with more than 800 languages. after papua new guinea, the 87-year-old pope will then travel to east timor and singapore but thanks so much for joining us. i'm lynda kincade. i'll have another hour of newsroom just a moment. >> kamala harris. donald trump, the debate. everyone's been waiting for follows cnn for complete coverage and exclusive pre and post-debate analysis and special event, the abc news presidential debate. tuesday at

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