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square off today, we're discussing their messages, the pitfalls they need to avoid and the tactics they should use and like any contest, the best indicator is looking at past performance mr. vice president, i'm speaking i have i'm speaking. kamala harris, as long used her experience as a prosecutor, could go on the attack. >> dale great. today that you were wrong to oppose bussing in america from cornering joe biden during a 2019 debate because your city council made that that decision it was. that. >> all government must grilling trump nominees while in congress can you think of any law that gives the government the power to make decisions about the male body. >> i'm not thinking of any right now, center now, she'll face a new opponent who's known for trading barbs. i made a mistake hey, using a private email that's for sure. >> but while donald trump likes to interrupt rational left,

will you shut up who was his restraint during cnn's debate in june that allowed joe biden to ramble, dealing with everything we have to do with setting up trump to counterpunch. >> i really don't know what he said at the end of their sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either here with me today. >> podcaster, journalist and author kara swisher, reihan salam, president of the manhattan institute and national review, contributing editor new york times journalist and the interview podcast host, lulu garcia garcia-navarro. and conservative pollster and new york times opinion writer kristen soltis anderson. welcome back everyone, kristen, let me start with you what does harris need to do to win harris needs to make sure that she does not let donald trump rally her, that she continues to make him look small and that she persuasively convinces those voters who are in the center who do not like donald trump,

but do not want to vote for somebody who's very progressive that her conversion to the center is legitimate. >> she needs to be credible, that she has made this moderate pivot and she means for it to stick so we're focusing right now on performance and tactics will get two issues. and then in the next segment, in terms of what she needs to do to win the debate is not the key. were kristen said, don't let trump rattle you know, she needs to show up she looks she looks like the future he looks like the past he is an 80-year-old man. >> she is 20 years his junior. and so i think the visuals, this is a visual medium, are going to speak for themselves. >> so just the two of them on the stage together at those two separate podium. >> i mean, she can string a sentence together he really struggles with that. >> well, certainly but carol looking at performance, what does trump need to do to win? >> i think he has to be able to string a sentence together in the last week, he's had real trouble the economic club

appearance was bizarre and he seemed adult during that. and i think so he has to be very clear, crisp and he can't scare any more women. i think that's one of the things and it says in the way that she has to assure men that she is she is not there's someone she can vote for, so she's got to attract men and he has to stop repelling up on that with you because some people are saying he's got to be careful how he treats a woman and some people are saying that she is a woman has to be careful in the way he treats them. do particular, i don't think if he said something offensive, i think she just cannot respond. she cannot she can't be self-righteous. unfortunately, she can't be angry. she should be angry, but she can't because because because women suffer when they look like they're going to get judge, by their demeanor, by their likability. i mean, donald trump can say any number of things things that are completely out of whack and he doesn't get judged by the same standard nor the most mad we know that there is a way that women, especially female politicians, get judged. hillary clinton dealt with it.

kamala harris is dealing with well in terms of trump he has made it clear that he learned his lesson from his constant interruptions of joe biden back in 20 20. and it paid off when he debated the president. again, justice june you know, when i had biden you and i had the same discussion and i let him talk i'm going to let her talk ryan. what does trump need to do against harris? >> i think that's a big part of it. he has to make sure that he lets harris speak. there is a universe of voters who believe that trump has better positions, positions closer to their own on the economy, on inflation, on those big kitchen table issues they don't necessarily love his personality. they don't necessarily think that he is someone that they want to be around, have a beer with think that he's the most stable, great guy. but they do think that his track record was strong and solid. he needs to foreground that and he needs to

foreground the record of the biden-harris administration going again, focus it's on issues in the next minute. here, we're talking more tactics and performance our lula and kara, right? he can say anything he wants. i mean, back in 2016, he talked about what a nasty woman, hillary clinton was. can he get away with that again, i think it would be a mistake because he needs to change it's the momentum of the race right now. and i think being disciplined and sticking to issues is going to be as best bet. >> what do you think about that in terms of how he needs to treat her? >> i think eight years ago, he could get away with being abrasive to hillary clinton in a way that he won't be able to get away with this time because frankly, eight years ago, hillary clinton this is opponent. she was not well liked either were for harris. she's in this interesting moment where a lot of voters are still trying to make up their mind about her. so if he goes out and he's a bully and he's a jerk. i think it would play different now than it did at an issues the joyful warrior that she's put out there that

idea where she seems palatable to especially man, i hate to say it, but she's got seem palatable and strong at the same time. i think she is has the advantage and then he looks like an adult old man who's, who has issues with racism and misogyny. and that's where a little bit just ask you one thing about that, kara, because we played the clip in the piece which was one of the highlights of her debate with pence in 2020 when she said, i'm talking right, mr. vice president, can she do that or is she going to look no. no. and the thing is interestingly, today, he did it again where he taught was talking about e. jean carroll, and he essentially said she's not the type of person i would sexually harassed. he kind of had a weird comment. and so if he does those where comments she's just got to get out of his way and let them do them. and i think he can help so lulu, for instance, and her interview with dana bash when she was asked about him questioning her race and gender that she that was the right thing to do. >> basically say it's the old tired playbook. next question

and not engaged at all. >> i think she's he can't get dragged down into the mud with him and i don't think that it's going to be very useful for her to go and do this back-and-forth about in black i am, you know, you don't want to give him the playing field and let him define her but i do think what she does have to cme is that is on message she this is a huge opportunity for her to speak to the american people and if she can actually speak to the american people and make sure that she is the one defining what subjects are talked about. then i think she'll do very, very well, do not let him be the one to drag her into these eddies and flows of the things that he likes to talk about which are these? incendiary topics. all alright as always say, we're focusing here about tactics and performance and that's not nothing debates will often remembered not for someone's best moment, but for their worst. >> and here are a couple of hours i don't believe that the

polls consider themselves dominated by the soviet union. >> i had a discussion with my daughter, amy the other day before i came here to ask you what the most important issue while she said she thought nuclear weaponry i'm you know, i'm not sure that people who weren't around in 1980 realize how bad the was. amy, i don't know if she was 1012 or whatever. and the idea that he was asking her and she said nuclear weaponry, jimmy carter, that was a big bad moment for him in that debate. kristen, who do you think is more likely to make a gauff here? >> i think it's harris and that's not because i think donald trump's not likely to say something that's out there, but rather that donald trump saying something that's out there or odd is in some ways priced into how people feel about him. where because harris is the way voters think about her is still a little bit more in flux and because she really has not been in an unscripted format for more than 1015 minutes at a time, only once with dana bash, i just think there's a real there's more or saying something that's going to make these

voters were making up their minds go never mind. i don't think so. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. i think it is priced in right that donald trump is going to say something crazy. but every time he says something crazy there is going to be a lot of focus on him and on his messages. i mean it is an empty shell. you saw his big economic address. >> there was no there there. >> we have to get past this idea that donald? trump is this magical being that whatever he does, whatever he says, it's going to be fine. i actually think that people are very keyed into this race. it is neck and neck. and there's going to be a lot of focus on what he says and the fact that he just can't actually have a coherent idea from their tactics to their talking points. donald trump consistently mixes policy with rants about his past grievances. can stick to a message about the future. then caught in the middle as israel

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discussed the tactical choices phase and kamala harris and donald trump in tuesday's debate. >> but what about their messages? well, we got a preview this week about what issues there'll be pushing harris tried to get ahead of her perceived weakness on the economy, unveiling new proposals to show how good she'll be for business we will tax capital gains at a rate that rewards investment in america's innovators, founders, and small businesses meanwhile, trump laid out his economic plans, talking about how tariffs will boost the economy but also taking time friday to attend court to appeal the verdict in the e. jean carroll case that found trump sexually abused and defamed her, then holding a news conference where he attacked several women who accused him of sexual misconduct it couldn't have happened. it didn't happen and

she would not have been the chosen one. she would not have been the chosen one. >> the chosen one for his sexual abuse. kara, i can trump, focus on our future instead of his past, whether it's the stolen election in 2020 or the unfair prosecutor didn't do it this week. >> and what was a layup that economic speech should have been a layup and it certainly wasn't that was bizarre you know i don't think he can i don't know what is happening with him you know, there's not nearly enough discussion about his cognitive abilities because he seems to jump from thing to thing but i don't think he can he can do that. she will be pushing the economy, including on tariffs just this week, goldman sachs backed her on this issue, with which is that would be at a high cost to americans to have to tariffs and then mark cuban and a pretty prominent investor was saying, she's good for the economy. she's got a lot of people saying she won't be. so i think she should focus on that as well as the last thing abortion and children's safety, this shooting in

georgia was disturbing, but the idea of keeping kids safe and having women have control of themselves i think are big issues, christian, it is pretty remarkable that 60 days before the election on friday, trump held a 45 minute news conference to complain about the e jean carroll case and then to call out not just her, but several women who have accused him of sexual misconduct can he for the 90 minutes of that debate, stay away from that and focus on issues, not his past grievances. >> the only reason i think that it's even remotely possible is because of the relative restraint that he showed during his debate with biden, where that was one where he could have unleashed himself in full and undercut his own message, but he didn't. he was able to hold it together for 90 minutes. so well, in general, the idea of donald trump and restrained going together does not seem like we should expect it. there's a chance he could hold it together and it's

essential that he does because every time he reminded as the voters who have think unfavorably about him, why they think then favorably about him, it makes it harder for him to get those voters to say but you know what i'll stomach and i'll vote for him because of policy. >> well, let's talk policy. then there's harris breaking with biden saying she wants to tax capital gains at a much lower rate than the president but the wall street journal points, i'll look at this chart she would actually raise the tax rate from where it is just not as much as biden's, you'd raise the capital gains tax rate by almost 40% ryan can't can harris be convincing as a pro business centrist? >> so to be clear here, she is moderating by saying she's going to raise the capital gains tax rate to where it was in 1978 when jimmy carter believed that the capital gains tax rate was too high. i think that you know look, she has a very long track record of taking very firmly left-wing positions on economic policy

issues. she is part of an administration that has moved economic policy in the u.s. quite firmly and decisively to the left she can try to use vague terminology. she can use vibes and joy. but the fact of the matter is that when it comes to those core bread and butter issues, the biden-harris administration pass the american relief plan, which sparked an historic wave of inflation. that's a very, very tough record for it, or run away from she can try as you can try to, course. correct. but even here you were seeing that she can only go so far, but she's hemmed in by a base that she's anxious about holding onto that wants her to move further left still what and kara kind of referred to this 88 business leaders including mark cuban and james murdoch and endorsed harris friday saying that she would be much better for the economy. >> let me ask you, lulu, can harris convincingly soros up to american voters in this debate

as pro-business. >> well, i think so you know, to reihan's point, the issue at hand here is that this is an incredibly unequal economy and you have the haves and you have a great deal of the have-nots and how do you tackle that? on the one hand, you have donald trump saying we're going to put in tariffs. now, what tariffs are basically attacks on consumption that raises prices for the people who consume. and that hits hardest to the poorest members of our society. wealthier people can afford to pay for it middle-class people well and lower-income people can't. so his idea of just raising tariffs and rating tariffs, that's what his entire economic message was. this past week, basically telling everyone he was going to raise tariffs. that's been roundly shown by most mainstream economists to be absolutely crazy and so by rate, by talking about capital gains, what you're talking about is actually taxi businesses that have just made out like a bandit. it goes recent economy.

so like so it's just true. >> i mean, i pick capital gain anytime you sell a stock, you have to pay. and also worker, it's effectively paid if you're looking at the incidence of corporate taxes, it affects a wide range of folks, including the jobs that are not created. >> otherwise. but when we're talking about terrorists, here's it's a difficult thing. the biden-harris administration has sharply increased tariffs. they use this in part as a strategy to regain the blue wall. they have been very much a protectionist administration. so it's true that trump is going pretty far on that front. but the biden-harris administration did as well if combined, he's gone so far in tariffs that he shouldn't stamp it on top of his head with a t. this is absolutely he's going far too far in on him. absolutely embraced by because he's now been recently in consumer, doesn't matter because he's saying it more so he's owning it now, whether they matter to you and i agree that it doesn't matter too much of the press corps, but the fact of the matter is ministration has sharp we may be decided to take it and run with it and he's running very far in a

direction, a little rough for her to make that case, however heavy right. and not what the debate about the debate. >> no guts, no glory. i'm going to go around christians starting with you, who's going to win this debate? >> i think harris is likely to win if only because i think the bar is very low, and i think a lot of people are rooting for her to win. >> when you say people voters media, i think it's the media and some part i think for some of those voters who are swing voters who really don't like but donald trump, they're looking for an excuse to not after vote for him. >> tara harris, i think because i think donald trump can't help himself and looking at her he has all kinds of issues with her. he's not gonna be able to help himself. it's a woman, a woman of color, a tough woman, a likable woman, a woman he finds attract. the whole thing is such i can't use a curse, but i want is such. it messes with his head and he won't say it's triggering to him be triggered because he can't help

himself as have you seen this week, reihan, i think it's going to be trump only because harris's team has done a very real disservice by not getting her out in front of serious rigorous interview he is more often, so she's going to be brittle. and this is going to be very high-stakes. they put her in way too difficult. the situation led fact that trump isn't great show him. >> i think it will probably be a draw. everyone will take from it what they, what they want. it'll be a bit of a rorschach test as everything has ended up being. and so harris will stumble in some cases, trump will stumble in some cases. and i think people will take without what they want at the end of this huge event, we're all going to talk about the racial still be neck and neck correct the war in gaza will likely be a topic at the debate, but it's what's happened. it's what happens there between now and election day that may decide who's the next president also had rising reservations the singular chains restaurants are seeing that may surprise you a lot of

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both in israel and the u.s. >> we want to see a deal as soon as possible u.s. >> officials say they're latest gaza ceasefire proposal is merely ready, there's not a deal in the making unfortunately, but israeli prime minister netanyahu keeps talking about major obstacles to a deal, like pulling israeli troops from gaza the southern border. we're not going to leave, leaving philadelphia does not advance the release of the hostages. >> a red line that's led to mass protests as real and anger from the families of some of the 100 hostages still in gaza are feeling is that he has his own political future ahead of him rather than the safety of our sun inside the white house. >> some officials say the u.s. may pull out of the talks if both sides don't accept a final proposal soon as president biden makes his frustrations with netanyahu clear. >> do you think he's doing enough?

>> no. >> and the israeli leader pushes back the real obstacle to making a deal is not israel. and it's not me it's hamas right-hand who's more to blame at this point for the fact that there still is no deal. >> a master netanyahu, there's absolutely no question that it is hamas that is to blame israel has been reasonable, has been trying to reach some kind of reasonable settlement, but now hamas is essentially saying hey we want control of the philadelphi corridor. where you have dozens of tunnels, some of which are the width of trucks. that was the chief way that hamas was gaining access to weapons of mass destruction, weapons that are brutalized civilians, including gazans this would be an absolute strategic disaster. it would be an entire waste of the incredible effort and sacrifice that israel has been made. it has made in trying to secure that territory. so i think that it would be a serious, serious mistake. they have again and

again been entirely reasonable. they've agreed to massive prisoner swamps. this is very much a mosque let me pick up on that. hamas is demanding a complete withdrawal from gaza and announced as with those six israelis murdered last week, militants now have new instructions to kill hostages. if israeli troops close in lulu, who's more to blame for no deal is reihan right hamas for isn't netanyahu, i really don't like the frame. >> i think it's an absolute tragedy. what happened with these hostages last week it is a horrific situation and reporting. has shown that the netanyahu government has changed his position several times they have tried to, at the last minute, change the parameters of the negotiations. you're seeing massive protests within israel over this netanyahu knows that if elections were held today, he would be thrown out of office

if he has a ceasefire deal his hard right, far right government would collapse. and so therefore, he has every incentive to keep this going for as long as possible. also, he is a close ally of the right in this country, and i think most people believe that he would like to see a trump administration come into power. and so there is some speculation that he is really trying to delay this for as long as possible to see the outcome of the election. >> alright, well, let's talk about this country and it's the impact here. the biden administration has been driving diplomacy for months, and it sounds of its latest 18 paragraph proposal but for our finished and agreed to, kara, should biden as has been suggested in the white house, make a take it or leave it proposal. and if this both sides won't agree, just step out of it. >> that's i think the u.s. has to be part of these negotiations. i don't know if we have the we can't afford to do that in this region to just step out and just move out of

it. i suppose it's a thread, but it's cute, can't have an idol threatened in a situation like this why not? >> i mean, if in the end, you can't get the two sides to agree on anything. >> well, i do think lulu is correct. is that netanyahu is trying to delay this until the election and seeing what happens. and then there's some opportunity for movement whoever wins. >> i mean, he should listen to his own people. that's ultimately what ultimately he should listen to his own people are on this issue. and i would also say just on the biden no, no. i mean, netanyahu should listen to his own people. they want to have a ceasefire they want this to be a negotiation not the right wing not the right way, but a majority of the country at this point has no faith in his government and so what you see biden trying to do here is to do what america's role traditionally has been, which is to try to bring two sides together. i agree with kara kara, they have to keep at it that's the reason important factor here that we haven't mentioned, which is that one of the six? >> people who was executed as an american, there are

americans being held hostage. i know that if i am abroad and a terrorist organization abducted me and threatens to execute me, i would like to think that my government is doing everything possible to get me out. so america can't just step up wave from this because there are still american. >> so what do you make by these motor? you make of the white house floating this idea of a final take it or leave it proposal. and then we drop out. >> i think that the united states cannot withdraw from this entire situation but if they believe that netanyahu is an impediment to getting americans out. they need to do what they need to do to get americans out. it is, it is mind-boggling to me that we have americans that are being held have been held for almost a year and are now being executed. >> and it's feels like i don't feel as an american very confident that if i was one of those people that my government would be right slogan here is not bring them home. is let them go hamas is literally saying these, there's open

season. are these hostages? we will kill them if there's a risk that israel will rescue them. that is deeply, deeply perverse, poisonous, noxious, no basically there's this whole idea that netanyahu is to blame it's fascinating to me, because if you look, if there were another election tomorrow, you'd have another government that would have a different composition perhaps, but that would still want to secure the israeli people israeli civilians in the south of israel, in the north of israel. if you look at the israeli center left, they are firm on this position. at this as an absolute myth and distraction. but what was coming from progressives on us? >> the fact is that netanyahu's own defense minister, that's correct said that he could make a deal and they could pull out an calm down, calm down, calm down. that's ok you're saying they can minister. >> i'm sorry. go no, no. >> i'm just i'm just saying yes. i'm echoing what you're saying. it's his own defense minister. there is a large opposition within israel that

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