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hello everyone, and welcome. from to the amanpour hour. here's where we're headed this week you have to constantly saying how to make the life of your enemy more complicated a major government shakeup in ukraine as russia steps up, its for russia's missile attacks on the country, i speak to foreign minister dmytro kuleba just hours before he offered his resignation. and we moved the fighting to the enemy's territory so that he could feel what we feel every day as ukraine takes the fight into russia my world exclusive with the mastermind behind kyiv's counter offensive ukraine's new army chief, oleksandr syrsky, then, and we should have technologies to kill more russians, technology providing a lifeline in this war. my report on the new land drones on ukraine's front lines also ahead i was lucky as your mother and i have venue will have a very long and very, very

happy marriage. >> cheers be we love a murder mystery in high society america, oscar-winning filmmaker susanna beer, join me studio just before my trip to ukraine. on her new show, the perfect couple and casting nicole kidman again plus it's a story of survival and endurance. an update on a wounded soldier we met here six months ago welcome to the. program, everyone. i'm christiane amanpour in ukraine this week where the government is making more desperate appeals to the united states for patriots and other top anti-missile defense systems now, 30 months into this war, russia has stepped up its all-out offensive across this country ballistic missiles striking energy infrastructure as russia tries to cripple the grid for this winter, hitting hotels now, and also a military academy that killed dozens and

wounded more than 200 people in one of the deadliest attacks of the war on the front lines, russia creeps closer to taking the strategic logistical hub of pokrovsk. and ukraine solidifies its hold on. russia's kursk region. i spoke to ukraine's foreign minister about this critical turning point and what he wants from the united states and nato allies right now foreign minister kuleba, welcome to the program you've had an important meeting with the president and members of the war cabinet today poltava was attacked and there have been scores of injured and dead. can you confirm to us what happened, what was targeted? what are the casualties? >> ballistic missile educational facility the city of poltava, a large city in ukraine i actually got myself from poltava region, mike, my father is from there. so this will geography is very familiar to me and we had a very

detailed briefing and the main takeaway, the main lesson that i want everyone again to hear about and we will not get tired of reminding of it. this is just another reason why delivery of air defense systems to ukraine must be expedited don't think if you'd had them there, this would have been intercepted. well, ballistic missiles are very difficult to intercept and poltava is in the east of ukraine, so much closer to the russian territory according to what i know the time range for the ballistic missiles to reach the target was very short. and the only way to intercept them was to have, to have the patriot system or tsmc air defense system because they are the only one capable of intercepting ballistic missiles. so i didn't know how many more tragedies like this have to occur for all promises to be fulfilled and for all new

commitments to be made. >> so obviously you're waiting for more deliveries, but you've also said the weapon because the eu actually have you need to be free to use them into its full capacity. the head of the eu foreign policy agrees with you. it says otherwise these weapons or useless. you said that you are fighting with your hands behind your backs i know that you have sent a delegation to the united states to the administration. where are you on trying to get these restrictions? and then mostly from the united states lifted well, my impression is that we are facing last mile problem and i record my mind on how to how to cover that last mile the decision the capacity of ukraine to strike military targets deep inside of russia diminished, the russian capacity for error attacks on ukraine, laced with the united states united kingdom, france,

and germany. these are the countries who are close to us for a friendly to us. and they have necessarily missiles so they have to do two things. basically. the first to make a decision that allows us to strike this military airfields were strategic bombers take off carrying missiles and bombs and second, to provide us with the sufficient amount of those, of those missiles. this is not a rocket science, this is just a very battle issue of making the right decisions on time can i ask you about the kursk incursion? this seem to come as a big surprise to everybody. you obviously have very good operational security but even your allies was surprised why did you do this? >> from the difference just saved from the diplomatic perspective which you are the chief diplomat, what was, what is his strategy behind this well, first every war of this scale that we are having is, has multiple theaters of war so

things happen simultaneously in different directions. and you have to constantly think how to make the life of your enemy more complicated how to impulse your will on the enemy? >> and note endure the will of the enemy and posts on you second, you remember we spoke like in the spring, i think and everyone was talking about a stalemate in the war. and there is nothing ukraine can do. ukraine can not change the course of the war russia is moving, is advancing, and there is nothing ukraine can do. and it had a direct impact in capitals among, among our partners and their decision-making processes. now, we've showed everyone we defeated not only we defeated the russian army in kursk we defeated the arguments so popular in among our partners that there was a stalemate because now everyone sees that when everyone sees what we've been talking about all the time

when ukraine has everything it needs we do not like courage and military skill to advance. and when, as you know russians are advancing on foot graphs gone on you know, important logistical hubs was this worth it, this trade-off because there is, as you can tell in the, in the chatter around, there is some anger amongst ukrainians. >> they say, hang on a second is one thing going up there, but don't forget, we need to be able to defend the territory that were trying to defend here. this is also really important can you talk to to that and to the trade-off if there is one, we do not think in terms of trade-offs, this is not our logic. we're not trading our territories were not trading. our people there was a clear objective to make russia's alive more difficult. and this was one of the key goals of the of the kursk course cooperation. second as

president zelenskyy stated, on numerous occasions, we have taken many prisoners of war which in kursk, which will allow us to do a swap and bring our soldiers more of our soldiers back. this is a very important issue there in the territorial swap, possibly is that also an issue? i mean, if you if you occupy however many square kilometers of russian land, is also a bargaining chip no, we don't. >> again, we don't think of you that in terms of swapping territories, because that will imply that we have to swap something in ukraine and we want, we want do that. >> lastly, as we speak and as these ballistic missiles keep raining down president putin is in mongolia being risk see by the president there, mongolia is a signatory to the icc, the president has been indicted or for removing ukrainian children what's your reaction to that? >> well if you talk to the mongolia is strong. well, we told them we sent we sent a

very clear message ahead of the visit it was ignored we send a very clear message after the visit began. >> it seems to be ignored as well we will be talking inside of ukraine and also with our partners on how mongolia's respect towards its own international obligations under the rubble, you don't expect president putin to be arrested? >> well, is there well, i do. >> but from everything i've seen so far, it seems to me that mongolia decided to blatantly violate its obligations under their own statute now since our interview, crew labor is amongst several cabinet ministers offering their resignations to president zelenskyy in the biggest government shakeups since the start of the war coming up, my international exclusive with the mastermind behind kyiv's game changing counter offensive, its incursion into russia. >> he is ukraine's new army

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relentless russian attacks, the country and its people remain resilient and determined. early last month ukraine's armed forces shook up the battle front, making a big bet on a bold offensive into russian territory. but as ukraine's counteroffensive presses on, russia is still making advances inside this country. and the stakes couldn't be higher, which is why i wanted to speak with the man leading the charge. he is general oleksandr syrsky, ukraine's army chief. i spoke to him at an undisclosed location for security pretty reasons yeah. i i. >> believe that russia is trying to force us to give up and break our will to resist by hitting our civilian objects and damaging civilian infrastructure by targeting our civilians in this way, they are trying to break our will to win. >> i want to ask you about kursk because i know that you spend time there near the front lines and i know that you and

president zelenskyy came up with this operation tell me from your words and your view, what was the strategic purpose of the ukrainian operation into russian curse for but a few need. first, the enemy russian troops had previously intended to use the kursk direction as a foothold for further operations against our troops in addition, they continue to shell our settlements daily, which caused us to suffer losses. primarily among the civilian population for us, this direction was always a threat. therefore, in assessing our capabilities we chose the weakest point in the enemy's defense in the enemy's structure. and this direction was chosen this reduced the threat of an enemy offensive. >> we prevented them from acting. >> we moved the fighting to the enemy's territory. so that he

could feel what we feel every day and we created our own security zone in the kursk region in addition, we took a sufficient number of prisoners. we created an exchange fund in order to release our military personnel who are in captivity can i ask you about the obvious imbalance and that is essentially ukraine while you're fighting hard, you are outgunned by the russians. they have much more air superiority, for instance, more drones, they have more missile capability, they have more artillery capability how do you assess the difference between what you have and what they have and how do you make up for that difference in my opinion, he will say you're absolutely right because the enemy does have an advantage in aviation, in missiles, in artillery hillary, in the amount of ammunition they use. >> of course, in personnel,

tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. but this also motivates us we cannot fight in the same way as they do. so we must use, first of all, the most effective approach, use our forces and means with maximum use of terrain features engineering structures and also to use technical superiority first of all, by focusing on high-tech weapons. these are primarily unmanned aerial systems for various purposes. you know that we have created the world's first such kind of troops as the unmanned systems forces we've created, a command, we have created units, we have created regiments, we have created battalions which are now proving their effectiveness in various parts of the front line do you go to the front lines? do you go to the trenches? do talk to soldiers there and commanders what do they say to you? because i know some of them have been there for more than two years. they barely get rotation. they don't get to see their family that is glide

bombs is terrifying things that and the drones, and there's just so much, i mean, it's almost, it's almost world war i kind of attacks on them in the trenches. and they're there for a long time with no real hope of rotation what do they say to you when you go to see them and talk to them for person was as nemea we speak the same language. >> we understand each other no matter who i am talking to, whether it is an ordinary soldier, a rifleman for example or brigade commander, or a battalion commander you know that i have been in this war since 2014, since the beginning of the full-scale aggression, i've been participating in combat operations as the commander of the operational and strategic group now i am, the commander in chief of the armed forces of ukraine. that is the frontline is my life we understand each other. i know all the problems that our servicemen, soldiers, and

officers experience you became the overall commander at about the time that the u.s. congress finally approved the tranche of weapons and help that they had promised you it was a delay of six to seven months what material difference did that make to your fight? the fact that these weapons were delayed for so long shan that's in your team of flew more the move the mushroom's three. >> of course this has had a negative impact when there's nothing to shoot with. no one and nothing to hold back the enemy. first of all, it leads to an increase in the level of losses and increase in our losses, not only in material resources, but also in human resources because the highest value in the ukrainian army is the life of a soldier it is very painful for us and of course it is painful to see that the losses of soldiers are increasing well, the effectiveness of the use of troops is also extremely

reduced. because when you have nothing to shoot with, you cannot hit the enemy efficiently and effectively. and this leads to the loss of territory so how can this affect us? of course negatively and has it made a significant difference that the weapons have started to come now shan, that's what does this mean? of course, this has led to significant changes but we would like to see these weapons arrived sooner because unfortunately, this process is happening. but it is happening with a delay. this is also negative for us especially when it comes to the formation of new units or when a unit is formed and there's no equipment, no weapons, how should we perceive it? you plan to use a mechanized brigade, but in fact, he use it as an infantry brigade. as a result, its combat capabilities and effectiveness are much lower. >> and obviously you're ministers, your president really appealing to the united

states, especially to stop the restrictions on how you can use use the weapons that do get here what would you do with these weapons if there were no restrictions on them how would you use them? where you mills, little wallet. >> we have repeatedly declared how we are going to use them. of course we will use weapons only against military targets primarily against missile systems that strike populated areas almost daily this leads to the loss of civilian lives you know, how many schools and hospitals have been destroyed in ukraine these are the airfields from which the strike aircraft of the russian army, their aerospace forces use missile weapons, use their guided aircraft bombs with loading modules, which they dropped to 70 kilometers or even more. and again, they hit schools and populated areas. these are the targets of course, we will use long-range

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>> and where in ukraine this week where accelerating technology is crucial to the success of their war effort against russia, like ramping up the production and the military use of land drones in kyiv, i visited a privately-owned battery that's doing that for the army. >> and i also took the pulse of how people here view the war 30 months in the evidence keeps growing even here in kyiv, far from the front memorials occupy ever more space. and since ukraine's incursion into russia's kursk region the war has returned to the city's with a vengeance since ballistic missiles hit kyiv, destroying infrastructure tripling the energy grid, raising fears ukrainian journal please, nataliya gumenyuk tells me it's been a trade-off. >> there is no discussion whether the kursk was right but

the question is, how much we lose in pokrovsk in the donbass, it boosted the morale among the military. it showed that ukraine can do something just outside kyiv. there's an urgent race against time i'm in this factory that's building unmanned vehicles or land drone because aerial drones make the front lines ever more dangerous for soldiers on both sides he is ceo and former special forces officer olexander balitsky, is that's why we should have technologies to kill more russians who is with purpose in the usings and new technologies like using drones, using robots that's it these all all-terrain, all whether drones are meant to save more ukrainians on the front, they can be controlled from as far as three kilometers away. >> here and follow along behind they can deliver everything from ammunition to water, and also remove the wounded from the front lines their

production has ramped up since the full scale invasion of 2022. and the company insists ukraine must develop hello, more technologically advanced systems for asymmetrical warfare to counter russia's overwhelming manpower and they want to be much more self sufficient for the long haul 30 months into this grinding conflict with the prospect of international support fading. or ukraine he is now ready to negotiate an end to it all. >> it's really a matter of survival. we can't allow them to control our territory and what they suggest is unconditional capitulation. unconditional surrender, or occupation and here natalia quotes, have friend and ukraine's nobel laureate who warns that occupation is not peace. it's just a different way of war even though people are tired, they do say surrender and defeat are not

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be a came into the london studio to discuss the dark side of privilege suzanne be a. welcome to the program. thank you. >> so he is a really gripping murder mystery set in a high society, high class beach house, nantucket. the epitome of american upper class vacation. first of all, it's called a perfect couple. why did you call it a perfect cup of what makes a perfect couple? >> well i think it's this is obviously not a perfect couple it's very ironic and it's it's a murder mystery and it is who did it, but it's also, it's got clear comedic aspects, which is also a little bit what drew me to it, because over the characters every

single one of them is is sort of a little bit of wonderful, but a little bit nothing isn't quite what it seems exactly and honestly, i have like many of the review is seen a certain number, most of them, but you haven't dropped the last one to us? >> and it's actually edge of your seat stuff and i'm probably stupid, but i can't figure it out. or maybe it's a willing suspension of disbelief. i don't know. >> but it's fine as well, right? yes. dark but it's light and fund it's dark and its under current because it does it does have it does sort of suggest that maybe the upper class or not, the sort of entitlement is not all sympathetic and it's not all likable. and at times incredibly disrespectful to other people. >> we're also not so good for them. you see, you see some of the characters dissatisfied, unmoored on motivated because

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>> i love this woman to death to death, not such a subtle piece of dialogue so we see that the perfect couple, because nicole kidman playing the author, wife, mother married to kyiv schreiber. >> but i want to ask you, what was it like working with her again and how can you keep choosing her to play these kind of murder mystery kind of roles the last time was the undoing that you directed with hugh grant, which was hugely successful? >> well, she's very she's very enigmatic, and she has a kind of, you know, and i think i think nicole she saw she saw enigmatic and i think she probably has secret. she doesn't know kherson you know what i mean? >> she has this kind of, you

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cnn welcome back. >> and we look into the archive now across ukraine as the war grinds on, the human cost, the loss of life is edged in the faces of almost everyone we meet he civilians and soldiers alike. when i was last here in february, as ukraine marked two grim years of war, i was taken inside the battle for survival in a hospital in dnipro located in the eastern part of the country and i was given rare access to visit with doctors and the frontline patients they were caring for among them were many who had lost several limbs, but not their will to live and to fight the parking lot. dnipro is machacado hospital is jammed with ambulances these patients are the lucky ones, fully stabilized here after their wounds have been treated, they are being evacuated to

hospitals in ten other ukrainian cities. it's a bloody carousel because they're making room for the next wave of casualties tears. in the resuscitation. ward director serhly ryzhenko tells us in the two years of russia's full-scale invasion 28 thousand frontline soldiers have been brought to this hospital alone for 400 patients who are very serious whatever they serious every day, every night, 50 to 100 patients from the avdiivka don't donetsk region and the injuries are grave shrapnel from artillery, mines and other direct fire avdiivka is the town that recently fell and that's where these soldiers have come from but in the next ward alone in his room, army sergeant vasily hulyak was injured on sunday operated on monday, and had three limbs amputated. he says of the

russians are basically just throwing meat at us, mobilized men who run at us in an open field. do you have enough troops and enough ammunition? how do you fight them to jack with us always. >> we're on our own lands says vasily. we fight to the last and do not give up. if they get past us, our families will be next we have no right to lose waiting in the corridor outside his worried parents hide of being, you know, he didn't ask us to go said mykola we didn't tell him not to. he said he had to have his mother. halina tells us he said i'll do everything i can and everything. that's in my power. like so many ukrainians, they've given their son to the defense of this land ever since putin started robbing them of it ten years ago the director tells us nonstop surgery every

day, all day in all the operating rooms contributes to the 95% survival rate, which is higher now, after ten years of improved combat surgery and techniques every operation, every patched-up patient is a matter of patriotic duty even giving blood is marked with a celebration here we run into american hedge funder and philanthropist whitney tilson, who's raised money for ambulances, generators, battery packs. but beyond the humanitarian, he sees the big thing i think the stability of the entire world depends on the west helping ukraine stand up to this aggression. because if we let putin win i think this is just the beginning. >> and somehow incredibly like the other wounded warriors we've spoken to. vasily says he wants to get back to his comrades on the eastern front you and your soldiers still

highly motivated. you've been fighting for ten years but the way i have no choice. he replies, do you understand? yes. of course, i'm motivated as for the lost limbs, he says he can be a trainer. he can still be useful in this fight, which from here looks like it'll last a lot longer than anyone thought and we, are happy. that more than six months since we last saw him in that dnipro hospital, we can share good news that vasilije is now going through an intensive rehab program. his wife and daughter by his side, ensuring that he has the love of family as well as the professional care and preparation to have prosthetic leg and an arm fitted. it's a story of uncommon valor. and when we come back remembering one of the most visible and compassionate ministers to the terminally ill mother teresa, who died 27 evan years ago this weekend this was an incredible

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did for me special events. >> the abc news presidential debate, tuesday at nine months and finally, here in ukraine, amid the endless destruction and mounting deaths we're reminded that in these times of unimaginable suffering individual acts of kindness and care, or a powerful force, a lifeline indeed this week, as we mark the 20 27th anniversary

of mother teresa's passing, we reflect on her legacy of compassion and service qualities that continue to inspire today. >> now, back in 2005, i was given exclusive access inside one of mother teresa's hospices. this one and add his ababa, ethiopia and there i visited with her nuns. the missionaries of charity, and i watched young volunteers from the united states i did kingdom and elsewhere dispense their love and care to the world's least wanted in their dying final days i've always wanted to work with the sisters of mandatory and to work with the pool. francesca church is 18-years-old and far from her london home the famine in ethiopia on the television and you sit in the comfort of your citizenry minutes. and there's no way in which you can actually smell the smells and really touched the people and he actually feel what it, what it's like? >> it's an intense experience for someone so young. but how

do you cope is the only way that i that i can cope when i came yeah and i think that's one that's my my one strength is that i know that when these people go that it's god, that's the incredible beauty of it is that you come into this room and these people are dying and there's there's nothing you can do. >> you can get loved them and to the very best you can to make sure that their last moments that they felt that there was someone that francesca and all the volunteers who minister in crises and wars to this day are the unsung heroes of our times. that's all we have time for. don't forget. you can find all of our shows online as podcasts at cnn.com and on all other major platforms i'm christiane amanpour in ukraine. thank you for watching and i'll see you again next week