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this is gps, the global public square. >> welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you from new york today on the program as the death toll in gaza tops 40,000 israel continues to reel from the murder joseph six hostages both sides grow ever more weary of war a peace plan has just been put out by a former prime minister israel, and a former foreign minister of the palestinian authority good, it worked with those with the power to agree to a ceasefire? even entertainment. >> i'll talk to the men behind the proposal. ehud olmert and nasser al-kidwa last dana bash on the moon it was violent election in american history and you've all noah harari on the danger a.i.

>> poses to democracy but first here's my take the great german statesman otto one bismarck is reputed to have one said that god has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the united states of america he might never actually said that, but it captures the sense that many around the world have at america's continued doing ability to surprise on the upside in the words of a businessman friend of mine. but it remains unclear as to whether the incumbent party, the democrats, will be able to benefit from this good fortune the latest evidence for its special providence is that the united states appears to be doing the near impossible, getting inflation down far and fast without triggering a deep recession the former federal reserve vice chairman alan blinder points out that using strict definitions, the united states has been able to achieve such a soft landing only once

before in the past 60 years in recent remarks, jerome powell, the chairman of the fed, has all but declared victory and he deserves considerable praise for getting the balance of policy about right through some very treacherous times. the u.s economy currently has low inflation, low unemployment, a boom in manufacturing, and dominance and technologies of the future like a.i. and gene editing even rising inequality, which has soared for decades, has recently abated and yet these factors are not giving the incumbent democrat see advantage one might have expected in most polls, donald trump continues to lead kamala harris on the question of who would better handle the economy? though by less than he led joe biden more broadly, the race remains virtually tied while harris has improved on biden's disastrous standing, her standing in the race, both nationally and in swing states

lags behind where hillary clinton and joe biden stood at this point in their races against trump when you consider that trump could do better than he is in current polling, which happened do to polling errors in both 2016 and 2020 the race remains a toss-up in the end, as i've pointed out, this election will not be fought over economics the most recent reminder of the political mood in the western world comes from germany for many years. even as right-wing populism surged elsewhere, it did not take hold in germany until the last year or so, the small right-wing populist party, the alternative for germany, remained marginalized but it now it looks like the small, not likely to be marginalized for much longer it, won one recent german state election a first for a far-right parties since the nazi era came a very close second in another state. and as

vying for the top spot in a third state, it looks poised to become germany's second political party after the center right cdu as with many right-wing populist parties, the afd is rise can be largely credited to the politics of immigration the story is a familiar one. as long as mainstream political parties turn a blind eye to the seismic shifts taking place relating to immigration. they are in danger of being outflanked by the popular strike in the netherlands. builders has also gone from being an extremist firebrand with whom few would ally to the leading political player and kingmaker in the recent dutch elections there are strategies to blunt the populist right's appeal. in denmark, the centrist parties have adopted a very tough line on immigration and assimilation. tough enough to be criticized by many mainstream politicians. but the result has been that populism, which flared up in past elections seems at bay in that

country. and poland, the center-right party of donald tusk for this election, not on immigration, but over the future of democracy in poland and its membership in the european union, both popular positions in that country in the united states immigration remains a core concern. and wall street journal polls, it was either close to the top or at the very top of voters concerns, both nationally and in swing states. kamala harris has been able to effectively blunt some of trump's appeal on this issue by pointing out that he squashed a tough border protection bill, mostly written by republicans. but she may need to do more many commentators believe that the trump phenomenon is a fluke fueled by his celebrity and almost cult-like following some of that is true, but right-wing populism isn't going anywhere fueled as it is by deep backlash against the economic, political, and cultural

openness of the past few decades and the urban elites, it spawned. look at your, look even at countries like turkey and india, where leaders have allied themselves with those opposed to liberal cosmopolitan elites look at the republican party which now has no home for people like george w bush, mitt romney, liz cheney, paul ryan, and even mitch mcconnell, leaders who wants define the party trump could win. but even if he loses his movement and right-wing populism are here to stay go to cnn.com slash fareed for link to my washington post column this week and let's get started. this week. a senior u.s. official said negotiators, when 90% of the way to a deal between israel and hamas

included in that agreement are plans for a ceasefire and for hamas to release the hostages. it holds but perhaps that's senior official was surprised when in an interview on fox news thursday morning benjamin netanyahu said unequivocally, there's not a deal in the making. unfortunately, it is not close so if not that deal, then what? my next guest top former officials from israel and gaza have a plan, a new plan, a who omer was the 12th prime minister of israel. and nasser al-kidwa was the foreign minister of the palestinian authority. >> i want to welcome both of you. >> and did notice is a very but rare moment to have two of you on the same platform. i don't believe you've had a prominent is rarely in a prominent palestinian for a long time. >> but let me begin by asking you tell us what you're what is your impression? >> of what is going on in israel right now there are

these protests. there's great sadness obviously about the brutal murder of the six hostages. what is the political consequences? are we at some kind of a potential inflection point? >> i believe that we are close to a turning point. we have to make a deal and i completely trust the announcement by the white house that they have an idea for a deal which can work if the israeli prime minister will agree to do it. he doesn't want to do it, not because of any reasonable reason regarding the security of the national interest of the state of israel. but rather because it doesn't fit in with his own personal considerations and political interests. and this is quite obvious to everyone in israel. and his former partners to the coalition. generous the former chiefs of staff gantz and eisenkot, who knows something about military in something about the philadelphi corridor

are saying that this is nonsense this is not an excuse. this is not a reason he simply doesn't want to end the war. the only way to reach an agreement at the end of the day is to end the war between us and the palestinians in gaza and to embark on a new different direction that dr. nasser al-kidwa and myself thought about and talked about and wrote about nasser al-kidwa when i look at this plan, it feels to me like you are coming back to something that has been proposed again and again and it hasn't worked for whatever reason why we'll why we'll a two state solution proposed this time work when it didn't, didn't do thousand when it didn't win who proposed it to abu mazen so why is this plan different from the other plans i think we need to be clear about what we have enhanced.

this is not a plan, not a comprehensive plan, but this is very important. mutual proposal on the most important three issues in hand. namely the situation. does the war in gaza and need for immediate cessation and the political solution in the form of the two states as well as the future of jerusalem. now, to answer your questions why it might work this time while it did not work in the past, the answer might be simple because of the war, because i believe that the people on both sides have become tired of the war and they want to see an end of the war and a substitute to the war so what is the substitute? the substitute is what we said in our mutual proposal in terms of ending the war and the meaning of the ceasefire, the release of all hostages, the release of

the agreed number of prestige and he had a prisoners the full withdrawal of the israeli troops, the stablished meant of a governmental body in the form of a transitional council of commissioners in gaza that is organically linked to the palestinian authority. we don't want to create any different entities in the west bank. on the contrary, we want to maintain the territorial integrity and the unity of the palestinian people. you know, there is an alternative to wara different way. that we don't need to go the same path of killing, of of maiming people of bloodbath that we see in gaza. we have to end that. and the alternative is definitely the road of debate. the road of reconciliation, the road of a political solution. and yes, two sets, israel and palestine based on mutual recognition on the basis of 1967, borders

with, by the way, the territorial solution that was proposed by primaries olmert, the 4.4% of the territory that is to be exchanged in this swap between the two states. >> when i look at israel now, it feels to me that's the political support for for a two-state solution which is at the heart of your proposal just has evaporated it was there in 2000 maybe it was there when you are proposing it, but today, i mean, if you look at any indication that the left of the israeli political spectrum essentially has vanished. me labor is down to three so seats. if you look at what the knesset dead when they passed a resolution that said there will be no two-state solution that was that was voted for by many more members than bibi netanyahu's coalition, a very two thumping majority of the knesset voted for only eight people voted against so at this

moment, it feels like israel is just not going to go for a two-state solution for this is precisely the reason why we have to put it right now on the agenda. it's time to change the direction we are going to defeat hamas. >> we already defeated hamas maybe will kill few more, and they will not be any hamas left. what then? >> there are 6 million palestinians. >> i commend dr. al-kidwa for his courage to understand that this is not the time for avenging each other. this is the time for moving away from the bleeding of this terrible confrontation that we had into a direction that may offer a new horizon. and that we are trying to do. it's highly unpopular, maybe now amongst

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who do america, the 12th prime minister of israel? >> no, sir okinawa what to do about hamas because hamas let's face it, it has been historically quite popular. there's a large segment of palestinians who believe the palestinian authority has been corrupt and feckless and maybe collaborated with israel and on security and so the alternative of hamas has always seemed attractive. they did win the elections in gaza though after that, they kind of stayed on. but even in the west bank, one of the reasons the palestinian authority doesn't want to hold elections is because hamas might win. what do you do about hamas can it, can it have a role given this political legitimacy that it has among a large segment of the palestinian people, with regard to hamas, let's start by presenting an alternative. an alternative for better future, for better life for the

palestinian people and their kids and their children, for better education, for better economic situation, for better opportunities, et cetera, et cetera. so it's not a matter of being tested. the palestinian people being tested every few weeks or they should cooperate and certain way, no, but it's a matter of providing them with better options. so let's start from here. secondly, i think that in any way the result of this war will be clear i said repeatedly that this war would lead to a new israeli government, to a new palestinian leadership and to a new hamas. and i still say that i don't, i don't hesitate and saying that. and we need to have different kind of situation in gaza. now, what we propose here is to have a governmental body composite of commissioners transitional body of gaza commissioners with some

kind of organic linkage between that counsel and the palestinian authority to ensure the territorial integrity and the unity of the people and of the land. but that body should be formed a light of consultation with every factions without direct participation of any factions because this is not, this should not be a place for political representation. there should be a place of good people that are able to do the job. they are trusted by their population and they trusted by the international community, by the donors community. and they can, or they have the abilities to fulfill the job and to really start rebuilding gaza, which is monumental job, very difficult, but it has to be done anyway do you think that your plan rests on a change in

government in israeli and other words, is there any chance that bibi netanyahu would go for this? and if not do you think it's conceivable that another right-wing prime minister, because i think that's what's in the cards and naftali bennett or an arbiter only been would they go along with this plan or do you need a political transformation of israel where somehow you get a moderate who becomes frozen, tell you for it i always thought before i was prime minister while i was prime minister when i worked with other prime ministers and watch willie this at the ultimate measure for great leadership is the ability when the time comes to do the opposite of everything that you ever promised to do because this is what needs to be done now this is what pronoun him begging the when he pulled out entirely from sinai, this is what i actually did when he pulled out entirely from gaza this is not what netanyahu is going to do because he is not a great leader, he is not

churchill. >> and he's not roosevelt and he's not even chamber line and i'm afraid that none of the possible contenders in the state of israel presently are capable of taking this decision because none of those people in different positions are prepared to do that, which looks to be unpopular at the moment, but which is the only possible way for then how chain allies the public opinion. the lack of solution, the fear of continued confrontations and violence, and terror and what some of the partners of netanyahu won't very much like ben gvir and smotrich will ultimately lead into new elections, which i believe will take place sooner than most people think. perhaps at the beginning of 2025. this will create a new government. and when there will be a new government, the leadership that

will understand we'll take over. >> do you want to run i want a new leadership in the state of israel and we'll see what comes up i will not talk about my own personal planes before i know that the elections reasons, which can you can understand who ramette nasser al-kidwa. >> thank you both for coming together and for talking to us about this important proposal. >> thank you next on gps, what can the most violent election in american history teach us about this year's presidential race my colleague dana bash will join me to discuss a fascinating new book that she's written the waiver he table. >> i got this that way. >> after the last every book touching this, my shopping what did everyone get a chapter the right area rug for every budget, i'll say it this section on washable rugs was

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rahel solomon in new york is cnn donald trump and kamala harris will meet on the debate stage for the first time on tuesday night even if trump doesn't mention harris is race explicitly in this form, he's already put the issue out there question when harris quote became a black person, unquote so how might history help us understand this moment that has been a question from my colleague dana bash. she's of course the co anchor of cnn state of the union, and has co-authored a new book called america's deadliest election it tells the cautionary tale of the 18, 72 louisiana gubernatorial election held amidst the extraordinary dysfunction in that state after the civil war, the rancor and chaos brought about the colfax massacre a racist massacre, which left at least 150 black men dead dana bash joins me now.

>> welcome down. what do you think when you look at that periods polarization, how much is it similar? how much is it different from ours? >> well, i'll start with how it is similar, and that is the rancor around the electoral system and the right to vote. and who is going to vote how they're going to vote? was white-hot back then, back then, it was about one thing and one thing only it was racism it was the south which it was still reeling from losing the civil war, trying to hold a grasp on the notion that blacks should not be as equal in society as they. and they realized in the first couple of elections after the civil war and during reconstruction that they could easily, blacks could easily get more rights with the simple power of the vote. and they

were determined to stop people of color from using that right and it was all about that one notion, which is race and all of that then translates into a disputed presidential election that has to meet every power tell us what happens in 18, 76 because you have the thing that people fear in a state like pennsylvania so explain it with that in mind. yes. the elections were impossible to really decipher in louisiana and in three other states so when it got to the electoral college and when it got to congress, when they were going to certify the votes, they got to slates of electors because there could not be any kind of unity and decision inside the states those four states in 18, 76 so by the time the congress had to deal with it they had to throw those votes out from

those four states. and they had a tie in the electoral college. and it was decided then that the vice president's role was only ceremonial, that he could not ache choices. and that was obviously the same decision that mike pence used i don't know, 150 years later tell us about the colfax massacre and what do you what is the significance of it? >> why did it happen? you know how should we think about it? >> we should think about this massacre as something that everybody in america should understand. that it was brutal. it was around the 18, 72 election, 150 black men we're slaughtered in cold blood in grant parish in louisiana colfax and they were killed just for one reason is because they were pushing for their votes to be counted and the

result of that the prosecution of that horrible massacre was done in federal court when all the way up to the supreme court and the supreme court decision, a famous decision called crook schanck said that it is not the federal government's job to decide civil rights and civil rights generally and also within the election laws, it's up to the states and so louisiana and other states said fantastic. we will take it upon ourselves and they imposed jim crow laws that were the law of the land in across the south for century. and that's how we got jim crow. i think about that sliding doors movie and the notion of it what could have happened for read if the decisions were not made to try try the colfax massacre case in federal court that allowed the supreme court just do what it did what if president hayes did

not get the presidency with a wink and a nod deal to pull federal troops out who were kind of in and out of the south protecting the rights of black americans post civil war and during reconstruction effectively ending reconstruction, what if that didn't happen? we would be in such a different place with regard to racial economic all of the big, big problems that have plagued u.s since the original sin of slavery, the book really highlights how elections have consequences and mean and consequential elections at inflection points have huge consequences forever. >> dana bash, thank you so much. >> pleasure to have you so much for having me. thank you next on gps questions swirl about how to keep the world safe from the many risks that a.i. could pose my next guest, you yuval noah harari, has ideas on just

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history of how humans spread and receive information you've all noah harari is an israeli historian and writer, is forthcoming book is nexus, a brief history of information networks from the stone age to a.i. you are welcome you do this thing better than almost anybody, which is to step back and take a look at the broadest sweep of history three, which you did so beautifully in sapiens tell us when you look at a.i. and you think about the other example, people often talk about is gutenberg and the invention of the printing press how similar is it? >> how different is it from other bursts of information technology? virgin human history in one way, it's completely different from anything we've seen before because it's the first technology which isn't a tool. >> it's an agent. it can make decisions by itself. it can create new ideas by itself

gutenberg's, our press could copy our ideas, but it could not create new texts. >> and signed were in control. we are in complete control. >> a.i. in contrast, it's an agent. it starts to make independent decisions and it can even create new texts, images, videos, and so forth. so in this sense, it, it's very different. and the big danger is that it will escape our control, something that the printing press could, could never do. >> now that we have totally democratize the production of information and that a.i. makes the production of highly sophisticated seeming information easy why we'll truth will be the small, lonely island yeah. and as you say, i mean, think about a place like cnn and the new york times, it's costly. you have to have factcheckers, you have to have reporters. you're to go back and forth meanwhile the junk, the disinformation, of course,

is good. there's going to be much more of it because they don't need any of that apparatus it's cheap and it's attractive. >> i mean, the truth is not only costly, the truth is often complicated because the reality is complicated, whereas fiction can be as simple as would like it to be. and the truth is often painful weather as individuals or as entire nations often we don't want to hear the truth about ourselves what is fiction can be made very flattering the truth is at a disadvantage. and it's the responsibility of people who run large media companies to make the right investments and this again, this is something we learned with every previous wave of new information technology. and now the tech giants, they are telling us that this history doesn't apply to us and they very often try to kind of divert the conversation to freedom of

speech. they say, we don't want to censor anybody but the problem is not freedom of speech. the problem is that their algorithms of twitter and facebook and so forth, they deliberately promote information that captures our attention, even if it's not true and when people complain about it, they say, but how can we tell what is true and what isn't true the same way that people at cnn and the people at the new york times, and the people for centuries has developed mechanisms to tell whether a story is true or not. and if you don't have these mechanisms you're in the wrong business. >> you say that this whole problem becomes much greater with ai weiwei because a.i. >> can start creating content by itself previously over the last ten years or so, we saw a big battle for attention between algorithms but they

only promoted content created by human beings. now, a.i. is capable of starting to create content by itself texts, images, videos, and we haven't seen anything yet. i mean, the eyes of today are still extremely primitive in five or ten years, they are going to be far more sophisticated in their ability to create content than most human beings so for you, the solution is really quite significant regulation of companies that do social media and things like that. yes. >> we need regulation and the regulation is not about harming the freedom of speech of human beings. it's about regulating the algorithms and the bots which don't have freedom of speech, freedom of speech is a human right. it is not a boatwright do you think that i mean, given the power of this technology are we kidding

ourselves that we can put in place some regulations that will make a difference. >> it sort of feels like a little bit like the industrial revolution that's going to roll through no matter what you do the industrial revolution itself was regulated. >> initially, they send kids to work in coal mines eventually, the word relations i said, no, you cannot send 10-year-old kids to work in coal mines. they should go to school so at least democracies managed to regulate industrial revolution. they should do the same with a.i. because their very existence is at stake deval noah harari, always a pleasure thank you. >> next on gps, the world may have gotten a handle on covid, but older diseases are seeing, a resurgence across the world i'll tell you why and what you need to know when we returned with car guru's do as much or as little as you want online only you could do things your way. all the time i don't like

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world's attention focused on a terrifying new disease called covid, that no one knew harder to treat. today, we have a much better handle on covid, but the world is contending with the resurgence of all diseases across many countries a june analysis by air affinity and bloomberg found more than 40 countries experiencing an infectious disease outbreak at levels ten times higher than before the pandemic these are age-old diseases that have tormented humankind, such as tuberculosis, measles, cholera, and polio tragically, many of these diseases are preventable take measles from 2000 to 2019, the share of children receiving at least one dose of the measles vaccine rose from 71% it is 6% that prevented an estimated 25 million deaths during the disruption of the pandemic, the vaccinated chef fell to a.d. 1%. it has bounced back to only 83%. a level

previously seen in 2009 measles is now surging in the u.s. and abroad. >> the w.h.o. reported an 88% increase in cases last year one major factor here is vaccine hesitancy according to a 2023 unicef report, surveys found declining support for childhood vaccinations in 52 out of 55 countries compared to before the pandemic, or double-digit decline in most places people who have been sowing doubts about vaccines should realize they are costing lives another disease raising fears around the world is mpox, formerly known as monkeypox. its spread widely in 2022 now a deadlier strain is proliferating and several african countries and cases have reached as far as sweden and thailand. this may sound like a new affliction for

humanity, but it is really an old enemy in different clothing mpox is closely related to smallpox. so close that smallpox vaccines are used against mpox. the world eradicated smallpox by 1980 and understandably stopped administering smallpox vaccines yet it has failed to take mpox seriously, which is far less fatal, but has infected over 100,000 people since 2022 and killed over 220 there's another area where success has bred complacency sexually transmitted diseases worldwide cases of syphilis have spiked, for example in the us, the latest data showed cephalus at levels seen last in the 1950s one reason has to do with hiv, which used to scare people and to getting tested and using protection. gay men in particular. now there are very effective drugs to treat hiv and prevent transmission. that is fantastic except that it

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