time on the debate stage. plus this people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion in boredom taking the bait how harris, his strategy of putting trump on defense paid off, and will she allow abortion in the eighth month? ninth month, seventh month? okay. would you do that contentious moment after contentious moment, all the policy arguments from abortion for the economy and immigration, then later, there's this is entering her endorsement era. taylor's swift growth for support behind kamala harris, just moments after the debate to include it all right. >> 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. a live look

going to see both president biden and vice president harris travel to ground zero to shanksville, to the pentagon, as we mark and remember those lives but we do also want to start here with the historic night last night. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it is wonderful to have you with us. democrats are waking up this morning thrilled about last night and asking, hey, when can kamala harris debate donald trump again? last night's debate was the first time that harris and trump had ever met in person and the tone was set before either had spoken harris cross the stage, extended her hand and insisted on a handshake. she introduced herself. i'm kamala harris. she said, the vice president did seem nervous at first when she started talking behind the podium, but she found her footing pretty quickly. after the moderators asked about abortion now it's not tied up

in the federal government. >> i did a great service in doing it. it took courage to do it and the supreme court had great courage in doing it. and i give tremendous credit to those six justices. >> they did exactly as he intended and now in over 20 states, there are trump abortion bans which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care in one state. it provides prison for life trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest was talking to sources all night last night, and democrats told me that trump's answer their shore to end up in paid campaign ads. one republican source who actually is in the anti abortion camp, the pro-life campus it would describe themselves said the trump's answers made them wins on this issue after that exchange harris basically baited trump and he just took the bait i'm

going to invite you to attend one of donald trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch you will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like hannibal lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer. and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom she said people started leaving, people don't go to her rallies is no reason to go and the people that do go, she's busing him in and paying them to be there and then showing them a different light. >> so she can't talk about that. people don't leave my rallies. we have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics so during that answer and others, like you can see it right there, harris, his facial expressions. >> there's amusements there is laughter as he spoke, which as we know, may have contributed to her getting under trump's skin. there. >> many republicans who support

trump have been expressing frustration with how the moderators approached the debate, especially around fact checking but again and again, trump himself seemed simply unwilling or unable to avoid the traps that harris laid for him or to stay on the message that he was there to try to deliver they're eating the dogs, the people that came in there eating the catch, they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there. >> now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are imprison donald trump was fired by 81 million people so let's be clear about that. and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that you talk about a threat to democracy. >> he got 14 million votes and they throw them out of office. >> and you know what i'll give you a little secret here. hate, sir. he can't stand here. >> and what did the president then at the time say there were fine people on each side, one

charlottesville that story has been, as you would say, debunked laura ingraham, sean hannity jesse, all of these people, all i can say is i read where she was not black that she put out and i'll say that. >> and then i read that she was black and that's ok. either one was okay with me that was a lot. and if that weren't enough minutes after the debate wrapped superstar taylor swift telling kamala harris, you belong with me. she wrote on instagram like many of you my watched the debate tonight. she declared, i will be casting my vote for kamala harris and tim walz in the 2024 presidential election. and swift sign that post quote with love and hope. taylor swift, childless cat lady look what you made her do, joining us now to discuss elliot williams, cnn legal analyst, and former federal prosecutor mark mckinnon, creator of the circus on showtime, former adviser john mccain, george president george w bush, kate bedingfield, cnn

political commentator, former biden white house communications director and matt gorman, the former senior adviser to tim scott's presidential campaign. welcome to all of you. thank you for getting up early after a very late night mark mckinnon, i think you're focusing with your microphone. so it's just got this second of mourning is that right. we'll figure it out marc, you have worked for candidates at this incredibly high level. >> you know what it's like to prepare them, you know what it's like to sit and watch your person, your guy do something like this on the debate stage last night, i and between what we saw on stage with trump and then what we talked taylor swift moments after the debate stage your big picture takeaways here absolutely dominant performance, just a tko. >> i mean, i've seen watch prepper does and dozens and dozens a debates. i just can't remember one that's that

dominant sense of what she achieved, what she needed to do. and i mean, we can go through the points and we'll go through and how she damar how he baited him. i mentioned just put cheese on the trap, cheese on the trap. he took it every time. >> but i mean, if you just stand back and think about what she was trying to do, which was introduced herself to 30% of the electorate who don't feel like they know her very well. >> they saw a calm, cool confident presidential looking candidate. i mean, if you just watch the screen turned off sound, it looked like she was on the beach in the sun and it looked like he was in a howling rainstorm she just looked good and she looked presidential. and if you look in control, what was truly remarkable about last night as that and what she did was she is the vice president of the united states to a president who's popular clarity is underwater. >> she's been vice president since day one of the administration and owns whether she likes it or not, everything tied to the president. yet somehow you came out of last night seeing her as the candidate for the future, her as the break from whatever it

was, whether it's joe biden or donald trump. and it was it was it was as if she managed this is market set on every pivot point to get donald trump to walk himself into a whole was really well as you also looked strong, i mean, that's the other that's the other thing here. that's that has been one of trump's advantages in this race. it was the advantage of when they get managers he had when biden was at the top of the ticket, he looked strong we managed to make him look weak. i mean, she made it look angry, defensive. week. she is mark was saying she looked calm. she looked in control. and so not only did she manage to draw out kind of the worst of him and his worst impulses and kind of show the country, you want the guy who's shouting about how they're eating dogs, is that is that what you want in your leader? managed to get it at that but she also i think undermined his perceived sense of strength and that was a critically important thing for her to do, not easy. >> a couple of things. i mean, look, i think was the story of missed opportunities for trump last night. i mean, he didn't

lose his cool, but he did lose his train of thought, right? and a lot of respects. >> and look, i don't think she went some prosecution overpower him. she played a safety play that scripted boy. she did do she some the waters and he and he took the bait over and over again. what i'm interested to see though in the polling, i think i think you know, certainly there were some red lights with her with his new york tendency, anna polar and earlier in the week and it gave her a bit of a roadmap, but i think both candidates a little bit, a bit of roman what can you do? she obviously he needed to make herself in the more of the kmgh. but one thing i think she didn't do. and look, that's probably not the story of the debate is she didn't really go into specific on policies that we saw a lot of folks in the poll say we want to hear more from, i'm curious if that pops, it continues or it doesn't, but the look, the story of the night is yeah that you mentioned from a.i. >> that piece of that poll was obviously with what stood out to all of us the most. do you think what people were saying there was really i think my question about it, i guess i would say is whether people were saying, okay, i really want to know exactly what her policy prescriptions are or i

actually just want to know her a little better. >> i think i don't think it's either or they it's a little bit of both. she'd the buyer little bit better, but she did not do the policies because also shifts me pressed. right. the bio is one thing, but it is policy used to saw some focus groups on this network and others talk about, well, you know, i was still better off four years ago, so there is absolutely a policy element that she has an articulated yet, but, you know, that is something i'm very interested. see you the next round of poll but i think successful political communication at this level is also about infusing is not just about rattling off a list of policy proposals we've seen many candidates kind of attempt that only to be sort of be left by the wayside. >> people want to know who you are. they want to know why you are advocating for the policies you're advocating for. and so i thought she did do a very good job last night of innocence using her own story, her own bio, and also just kind of presenting to people this is how i think about the world, which i think is what people actually want from a debate and from a presidential campaign across the board yeah, we're gonna go to break in a second,

but mark mckinnon, i wanted to i noticed this law signed. i wanted to save it for you the front page of drudge report last night if we could put it up on the screen. so matt drudge and i'm asking you because you have a great memory of the role that matt drudge has played in our politics and, you know, there's a little note up in the far top of the screen where it was the night trump lost it is how he says it and then it's the end. of course him with cats. this comes after taylor swift endorses. don't i don't know that the drudge report plays the same role that it did in our politics, but it's telling that this is where he of all people is on this. >> well, it's incredible that dredges is still very relevant and still a real driver of a lot of news and a lot of attention. and what's particularly interesting about that is that it's when, whenever dredged has a poll, it's usually dominated by conservatives who are driving the poll numbers. and if that's the case, even, they said that harris crushed it last night. >> yeah. i know we were looking at those numbers earlier in 30%

of republicans thought that she won the debate, 69% of in-demand when you're only defendant it's hard for your team gets beat is to take on the rest, you know that and i would just say from a tactical perspective to trump going to the spin room is a sign that his campaign believes he didn't win. >> you don't send your candidate into the spin room if you believe they may knowing him, he probably sent himself into the spinner. and as you remember, that was a tactic he used to grab the officers primary debates become far more common. i think it's less of a sign of losing general actually bates, it's unprecedented. >> it's really interesting. alright, coming up next here on cnn this morning, will there be another debate? we're going to talk to members of both donald trump and kamala harris campaigns later on this hour and of course, taylor swift speaks now, the global superstar endorsing kamala harris, how might her support help with younger voters the

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viktor orban, what are the most respected man? >> they call him a strong man. he's a sees a tough person, smart, prime minister of hungary. he said the most respected, most feared person is donald trump in springfield they're eating the dogs, the people that came in there eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there. i said during my speech, not later on peacefully and patriotically, and nobody on the other side was killed so that last bit there was about january 6. but can we just jimmy and the control play the pets by one more time? we just watched that 11 more time. oh, we just have the video of it. all right okay well, the laughter and the pets guys, the way that that moment played, we have we do have sound of undecided voters talking about this pet eating conspiracy because the way he talks about it, just like directly, they're eating dogs, they're eating

cats, takes this very sort of complicated internet conspiracy meme and makes it very direct. let's watch what voters had to say about it. >> i'm, not heard anything about it before, so i thought it was just another one of these kind of crazy things that comes up with that kind of turn me off. what really bothers me about it is what the underneath message i get from that. as a pastor, i hear the dismissing the other keeping other away, giving bad impressions about other people what do you make of that kate it was such a i mean i think i would imagine 80% of the people watching the debate had no idea what he was talking about or felt like, what the heck does this have to do with me? what even is this like? you had to i saw i think dan pfeiffer said on twitter like you had to have a phd in maga to under steven understand what he was talking about you know, wasted opportunity. you have this audience, you this is your moment to talk about what you're going to do for the country and you're using it on

these far right means essentially there on twitter they're also as the undecided voter was saying, there is also an element of hatefulness of racism in some ways, it was the quintessential donald trump moment. it was absurd, but it was also hateful and kamala harris is reaction i thought was actually was perfect because it was sort of one of those like kamala harris is all of us moments where she was just sort of like what the heck is this guy talking about reaction, which good as he was bad? >> yeah, exactly. and it just a diminished him. it may it rightly made it seem like what he was talking about was nonsense and you know, but she didn't get up in arms. she was just like what the heck is this guy talking about? >> i mean, look, i think republicans were waiting for that really strong case and immigration that's one of the best issues, right? and i think with her having, you know, kind of been in charge of immigration the border for providers, plenty to go from there. and i think one of the other tough parts as he entered he entered the answer as if people already knew what he was

talking about, right? he talked about just springfield. right. let's bring and so like what is springfield's simpsons just want to know was expected? hi. all right. so it's i think it's always a challenge when we talk about this with any candidate, it's always found out in the shot with trump in this instance is where they're down on the ten yard line, but people are back at the 40, so you need you need to bring them a lot. that was always a chunk that was an insight in there of how the how, how it's just kind of we are the way down to pick up on the immigration point. he kept getting in his own way. and one of the best lines against kamala harris is this fracking point that she changed her position between 2019 and the president and that she was asked a question about fracking. she answered it inducted. he then started talking about transgender operations for illegal aliens in prison for the flip-flops to be a sure, but the simple point is when he had an opportunity

to attack the vice president on a vulnerability, he went down this list of maga is greatest hits and it just so any conflict not get it the extent if it's about illegal aliens in the united states, then make that the focal point and go there. but it was just sort of a grabbing a lot go ahead i just want to say it also it also put on display the fact that he cannot make a coherent argument. is this somebody you want to be present of the united states? it's like there's the issue of the substance of what he's raising substance and then there's the fact that he is somebody who is sitting there and cannot carry an argument out to its logical conclusion, is that the person you want sitting in the oval office decision is fundamentally who do you want to be watching for the next four years confident it's just crazy guy talking about cats, not an unfair point. there are people that care about the border and he said immigration or border are migrants. a bunch of ties, sort of all over the place and thrown in with this nonsense about cats and ducks eat, his argument the internet

meme was about cats. he threw in the word dogs last night, diminish worse had to say but this matter it's not you're not your responsibility. >> it's the responsibility of that may might still to come after the break, donald trump questioning more than kamala harris is politics. we're going to look at how he weighed in on her racial identity. again plus voters sharing what they thought about last night's debate she is saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but i just don't know if i can afford to take that risk. i just felt more strongly for her as opposed to her opponent tv on the edge premieres sunday, september 22, did nine on cnn america with mortgage rates going down and listings already up 36 senate on realtor.com, the time to buy and sell is now do not wait be ready before the

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that sound familiar she went out she went out in minnesota donald trump attempting to use that famous kamala harris line. >> i'm speaking against her. that was from her 2020 debate, of course, against then vice presidential candidate mike pence. but even as some of his allies acknowledge that it was trump who ended up on the defense for most of the night. the former president though, felt quite confident about his performance. so confident, in fact that he is saying a second debate might not be necessary. >> what is our best debate ever fight those two beta, i think we had a was very interesting that showed how weak they are up with derek day on what they're doing to destroy our country in the border with foreign trade, with everything had i think was the best debate i've ever personally that i've

that she wants a second debate because she lost the night very badly. so they want they immediately call for a second debate because they lost all right, joining me now, is senior adviser to the trump campaign, jason miller. jason, very grateful to have you on the show this morning. thank you for being here i'd like to start with this issue you can you put it to rest will donald trump participate in a second debate with kamala harris before november 5, well, kasie, i thought this is a bit perplexing because president trump has already said that he is going to do three debates. we had the september 4 debate, which is going to be on fox and kamala harris was a no-show. we had last night and president trump already said that on september 25, we would do a debate on nbc you see but now kamala harris seems to have memory hold that and rather than just saying, we will see you on september 20 on nbc is now throwing out some fictional day in october. so very clearly we're gonna have to go back to the drawing board. we've already committed september

25th against nbc but kamala harris, because she had she grants your show on nbc on september 20. will you be there we've already committed to september 25 with nbc, but here's the thing. >> the reason why kamala harris is doing it is because she had two goals last night and she didn't land either one number one, she had to find a way to break free from joe biden when the wrong track in the country of two thirds of the voters saying go the wrong track, one-third right track. it's not enough just to lay out a policy position. you have to say how you're going to change direction, how you're going to break free of joe biden. the second thing that kamala harris had to do, what she didn't was explain after 3.5 years of being there, why she hasn't done it already. so of course, kamala harris is going to come back to clean those two things up it's not enough to give some platitudinous answer. you have to say how you're going to change direction especially on the economy and immigration. she failed to do that i hear the points that you're making. i just want to circle back one more time. if kamala harris

agrees to the september 25 nbc debate, will donald trump be there? >> well, again, you heard what i said. president trump agreed to three debates, september 4 against fox, which kamala harris has already know showed. so she was oh, for one, we had last night's debate president trump said, in a press conference, and then via social media that on a separate september 25, we would do it on nbc a.i. you can't give kamala harris credit for saying that she'll do some fictional debate a month, a month-and-a-half to two months down the road, maybe on election eve because kamala harris is not going to show up okay. go ahead. sorry no just president trump agreed to three debates. >> the next one being september 25th on nbc, kamala harris clearly refuses to do that, saying that there'll be some fictional day in the future september 25th, the onus here is on kamala harris to quit playing games, quit running

show up on september 25th. she's not going to do it okay. >> but again, if she were to do it, would you well, again, we've already said that september 25 on nbc and you stand by that even after the events of last night well, hold on. kamala harris last night, refused to say this year is going to join us. you can give her credit again from some fictional day. were already on the books september 25th, colin, b.c. right now, they will tell you, go back and watch the tape, whether it's the press conference or social media we're ready to go. she won't show up in the reason is because she couldn't explain in 90 minutes last night actually want a bit more like an hour 45. couldn't say how she'd go any different direction from joe biden. they're effectively conjoined twins on the policy matter, and she couldn't say why after three-and-a-half years, she hasn't done it already all right. >> let's move on, jason, one of the moments that has obviously been replayed quite a bit this morning as well as

last night after the debate was this moment where donald trump talked about at people in springfield, he didn't mention which springfield, but people in springfield eating their pets, i want to watch that moment briefly and we'll talk about it on their side. take a look. >> a lot of towns don't want to talk about it because there's so embarrassed by it. in springfield. >> they're eating the dogs, the people that came in there eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there. >> and this is what's happening in our country. and it's a shame game. now, the officials in this town have said that this is not true, this is not happening. and even the wall street journal editorial board wrote overnight that harris won the debate and they say it was because she came in with a strategy to taunt and goad mr. trump into diving down rabbit holes. they say he always takes the bait ms harris set traps, we spent much of the debate talking about the past, about joe biden, or about immigrants eating pets, but not how you improve the lives of

americans in the next four years. why was mr. trump unable to resist going there? >> so a bit of a compound question there. so i want to go and unpack each one of those kasie specific to the pet question, if you go to the federalists.com, a very well-respected research organization. if you go to the news outlet, the federalist federalist.com, you will see that months before all of this controversy popped up. there was 911 call. there was a police report filed on somebody saying that they saw this which were illegal immigrants from haiti who were abducting pets. so set that aside for a moment. what upset me about this was at the moderators and it was a 301 when i can to get them individually let's put that aside for a moment also. this issue of illegal immigration, that there's many of his 20 million illegal has been brought in the country. many of them airlifted to the middle of america, making every community a border community. that was the issue that we should have been talking about. we should

have been talking about these airlifts are continuing even after. harris the leak. >> but it could have been republicans are more trusted on immigration. >> i take your point? >> but over and over he did bring it back the immigration, but we got a little bit i'd say put into this box with the moderators obsessing again, the federalist says that it's accurate and they've posted the 9-1-1 call in the police report on their website. but what we should have been focusing on here is a fact that these fly ends of illegal aliens to different countries happening all over. and it's not just at the border, it's the fly ends. and after 20 million illegals, kamala harris didn't say last night, and this is the important thing. two-thirds of the country think we're going the wrong direction. kamala harris didn't say what she would do to stop that, didn't commit to stopping the fly ends, didn't commit to what we do about the 21 million illegals already here here's why it matters. when they're here, kamalaharris, a said in the past, she wants a blanket amnesty for everyone. they will bankrupt entitlements. it'll

bankrupt health care with ever getting free healthcare. and of course we see with a housing crisis where are you going to put another 20 million people? that's what americans kara, it's not enough for kamala harris to come in and give the platitudes she has to say where she's going a different direction. she's simply failed to do so last night, if you're undecided voter or someone who's on the fence, you had to see a willingness to a change in russian. kamala harris didn't do it. president trump, over and over said how he would stop that crisis and turned around jasoncke i let you go. the other issue that i was left a little bit unclear on was whether or not president trump would veto a national abortion ban in the event one landed on his desk as president can you say now would he or wouldn't he vetoes such a ban well, i mean, he made it very clear last night, you said number one, that's not going to come forward, but number two, that's not something that he isn't supportive. >> he's very clearly said that's gonna be sent to the states he's very adamant that

any laws is states need to have the exceptions very strongly. rape, incest, life of the mother. and he also pointed out that how a number of states, including getting minnesota, allow late term abortion up to the moment of birth. abortions in the ninth month but here's the thing where i am going to take me. >> kasie. hold on i do have to take issues with the moderators on this point. >> there was a false fact check against president trump with regard to minnesota if you go and look, there have been instances since 2019 or a baby was born and whether it's because of a botched abortion or if because there's some other reason after maybe the attempt to it revival resuscitate the baby after they're born happened. eight instances where that baby then died. so there have been cases where after the baby was born, that unfortunately there are eight lives that perished. ralph northam and again, anyone can google this. the former governor of virginia said, in the case