you. you share that birthday with someone who is an idol of yours? yes. constance baker motley she was the first woman to argue before the high court. now you're sitting on it what does that feel like right at this moment? >> oh, it's such an honor to be able to serve in this capacity judge motley was an icon for so many people. >> it became team partly a goal of mine to get a federal judicial appointments because i learned of her experience and so admired her but judge motley, who argued something like ten cases in the supreme court and won nine of them. >> didn't have an opportunity to sit on the supreme court because she grew up in a time where that was not going to be possible so i feel so craig

the best of my ability and my thanks to the justice. >> it is a fascinating book. >> thank you very much for watching a busy news night. laura coates live starts right now >> i'm jim acosta in for laura coates on this friday, the 13th. and if you're the superstitious kind, it's a date that can phil a little unsettling slightly creepy. but if you're following this year's presidential campaign while is just another friday, just today alone, donald trump made a feeble attempt to distance himself from a conspiracy theorist while actively fueling the dangerous lie that migrants are eating pets in springfield, ohio is infamous debunked claim from tuesday's debate because now ricocheting across social media they're eating the dogs eating

the cats and the internet is having a good laugh, but the people in springfield, ohio are not a second bomb threat rattled that city today just to trump stoked further division when he promised to target the city with mass deportations. >> if he wins we will do large deportations from springfield, ohio large deportations. we're going to get these people out. they call them nests a bad people. they're all now in the united states and then now taken over cities. it's like an invasion from within that the haitians are there legally trump is sticking to that message. she's also defending far-right activist laura loomer, a recent campaign plane companion, who as a documented history of lying and making racist comments. >> laura has been a supporter of mine just like a lot of people are supporters and she's been a supporter of

mine. she speaks very positively of the campaign. i don't control laura. laura has to say what you want. she's a she's a free spirit a free spirit. >> it opposed trump later said she does not work for the campaign and said he disagrees with statements that she's been making without saying which statements all of this with just 53 days to go until the election has trump right now is campaigning and battleground nevada where he's holding a rally in las vegas, will i'll show you some of that if it if it warrants at attention and with me now, is former trump white house communications director anthony scaramucci. anthony great to see as always, i do want to jump right into this springfield, ohio issue. trump calling for legal haitian immigrants. we should emphasize to our viewers these are legal immigrants to be deported what do you make of this whole thing? even watching it all week, you know how trump operates, what's going on here i look, he's got a three-pronged reelection

strategy. >> it's anti-immigration. evan include all immigration legal or illegal it's misogyny and it's racism. and those are the three things that he's pressing the buttons on as hard as he possibly can. >> and the laura loomer stuff is absolutely disgusting. >> what she's saying about vice president harris marjorie taylor greene, jim, just think about that for a second she speaking out against it, calling it racist. yet people like j.d. vance in the campaign not saying anything. his wife is obviously, of course of indian american descent so this is what trump does he move the goalposts on everybody. they all equivocate for him. they all rationalize that they're there for these various reasons. but listen, it's, it's absolutely disgusting and it's incumbent upon the vice president to marshal a coalition big enough to beat the group of people in the country that like this sort of nonsense. >> yeah. and anthony, i mean, i

do want to ask about trump's promise of a mass deportation program. he keeps talking about it. i mean if he's talking about deporting people who are legally in the country. does that mean he's going to try to deport legal immigrants if he gets elected where's the line i mean, that sounds completely un-american but when you ask these people from project 2025, when they've done interviews and say, okay, you're going to deport the people. >> how are you going to do that? >> you and i are old enough to remember elian gonzalez who was taken out of his home where the swat team? >> put into a deportation center, and sent to cuba. >> and so i guess we have to see that on the air 11 million times or trump saying is 15 million people you'll have to put them in camps somewhere. >> jim so and again, we don't know where the line is. we don't know if it's everybody it's to trump designates that maybe is black or brown or some kind of dissent that he doesn't like we're not sure

where it is. and they won't answer the question no. i do want to ask you about laura loomer as much as i hate to give her any kind of publicity whatsoever when she is with them on the campaign plane, she's going to places like do you work for 911 commemorations and so on. what do you make of trump? i guess it sounds like he's trying to distance himself, but at the same time, he's defending her. i mean, you've been out on the campaign trail with him. he seems to attract these types of folks. i mean, it's sort of like you know, hanging up flypaper well what happens with him? he has a group of moderates they get sick of them, they leave the campaign. and then he keeps moving to the alt, right? >> she's a perfect all right. person. a lot of the stuff she puts out on twitter, he starts to use he's not doing well. he had a terrible debate of this past tuesday. >> he moves towards a laura loomer in the campaign.

>> when when the vice president was named the presumptive nominee, and he couldn't find his footing he goes to the lower loomer's the whole she just turned black. comment is a laura loomer special. so he's got a lot of laura loomer and his personality. so so people have to recognize that they're voting for that sort of ideology yeah, i mean, i think i read the laura loomer. what, 31-years-old, something like that control room fact check beyond that, if i if i'm off a little bit and i mean, if you go back to when trump was peddling the birther conspiracy, what was that? 2011. that would make how was she at the time? so i mean, this idea that has been floating around the oh, you know, laura loomer is on the plane. she's traveling with him. she must be influencing him. he why don't they just knock it off? i mean isn't he the one who probably influenced her? isn't he kind of i mean, i mean sort of putting the cart before the horse here yeah,

it's a little bit of both. but i mean, if you just follow her twitter screeds, you can see that this is something that's emanated from her and he likes it and he thinks the same way but just so you know, jim, if you ever call me younger than i actually am like my 30s. >> they don't want the control them to fact check. he is. i just yeah, letting my friends know in the control room. i don't i don't want any fact-checking on that you don't look a day over 40 anthony, but i mean, senator thom tillis wrote is next he says, thom tillis wrote on x. >> senator from north carolina, loomer is a crazy conspiracy theorist marjorie taylor greene has been going after laura loomer to, i mean, i sort of feel like we're doing a disservice even talking about her. i mean, she is nuts but at the same time, i mean, here we are. we're less than 60 days until the presidential election and the republican nominee is riding around the country with somebody who thinks that 911 was an inside job and just crap

and garbage thom tillis is a great guy and he supporting donald trump and i don't understand why. i guess he has to say say that for personal appearance or maybe his political consultants are telling that, but i would i would really strongly suggests that my fellow republicans and people that are elected, you got to stand up to this. you've got to speak out against this. >> where is j.d. vance and all this? i find it reprehensible that he doesn't have the stomach to speak up about this i disagree with you on this. if you don't mind me saying so he has to be spoken about because she represents him and that is who he is. and so you know, let's get more of laura loomer, frankly, in the campaign so that we can really turn off the people that we need to make sure that trump isn't dai's. >> jim alright, as any scaramucci, thanks. >> as always, great to talk to you i'll keep lowering the age

every time you come on just so keep keep coming back i appreciate it. >> have a good term. >> italgas, jim, i appreciate i don't we all it does help. >> thanks, anthony. good to see you. >> are here to talk about the week that was on this campaign trail. >> annie linskey, reporter for the wall street journal, chuck rocha democratic strategists and erinperrine, republican strategist and former communications director for the 2020 trump campaign. i mean, any let me start with you first. i mean, what anthony was saying a few moments ago sort of reminds me of like this conversation that we have in press circles and sometimes we talk about it on the air. what to cover about trump, how to cover it to recover people like laura loomer, anthony saying you should cover people like laura loomer because they do have an impact act on trump. but getting back to the conversation we were having earlier, i mean, you know, he is somebody who probably influenced her first. i mean, i mean i think sort of age comparison is spot on but i think that imagine her in the

fourth grade or whatever it was coming up with some filling up with these conspiracy theories i think it would think about this week. obviously the debate was the main event and most people coming out of the debate, including, as you know, many of trump's advisers quietly said that he lost the debate. but we are still talking about donald trump and what he said in his comments about eating dogs and geese and springfield and so to me, i have in this moment at least a little bit of kind of 2016 rehash going on because he continues to drive the conversation about the topics that he wants to talk about coming out of a debate that he allegedly lost. i mean, nobody is talking about kamala harris or what her what would she lay out? what what point did she make? so i do think there is something to your hesitant and laura loomer yeah, it does keep the conversation in a place where he clearly wants it to be

and shrug. >> i mean, he's obviously still smarting from the debate, apparently just a few moments ago, he's got a brand new conspiracy theory that abc was giving the questions to kamala harris. i mean, it's just it's amazing. let's watch if we have to maybe show what yeah. >> she can talk without maybe getting the answers. what's the story with did she get the questions the questions i hear she got the questions which is not not true. taking a young man who needs some hail. yeah while you're out there and look, i've done a lot of debate prep. i've worked with candidates all over the country like this is what he does. this is his mo, and he's trying to get attention that is part of the strategy. and your both on about that. he loves the spotlight and he's got to talk about etan squirrels next to get in the spotlight that's what he's going to do or route on a plane that smells like big macs and chicken mcnuggets with loomer. >> that's what he's going to do. >> but the fact is he had a bad night. but the other fact is is that folks are making their

decisions about voting and they're going to start getting ballots in many states in just a couple weeks in people now have gotten to the lowest common denominator of not even really needing to see the back end of a policy book. but they're just looking for an adult. this is helping kamala harris. he can have all the spotlight that he wants to. he's talking about crazy stuff with loomer as she can continue to just do the blocking and tackling. that's how you win. yeah. and aaron, i mean, i'm sure you've heard this republican strategists in recent days. i've heard it, which is any day that trump is not focusing on issues, is just a bad day is a lost day and he's running out of time and here, you he's talking about people eating dogs and cats and stealing the geese from the park and now he's got a new one about the questions were given an advance. i mean doesn't sound like this is heading in his direction. >> the national narrative is certainly one that trump is keeping right now off of the main topics which should be the economy, inflation grocery prices, home prices, gas prices, everything in between, because that's the one thing that i really wished that like

donald trump and the campaign, but keep in the forefront of their mind, which is the issues they are strongest on right now are the ones the american people see every day. you go to the grocery store once or twice a week and you are faced with the fact that man milk seems more expensive today than it did last week, you drive past a gas station every day in your life in the united states, you see the price of gas. they live these realities he's every day if donald trump stood there and said, you want to know why every day of your life, you will see those gas prices and that is because of kamala harris and joe biden you see your grocery prices when you go in to pick up a loaf of bread because it's the middle of the week and you got your paycheck and you got to make sure your family can eat and it's more expensive now, touch the heart of the american people and let go oh, i keep saying it over and over. he's not here, but here we are. >> you going inside the campaign does he have advisers who will say that he does and they will say that to him. and then he'll just go out and do this other stuff. >> anyway, jim, you and i both know that susie wiles and chris lacivita or two professionals in this industry, there are few people who understand the state of florida better than susie wiles biles chris lacivita has

a has a long history in republican politics, going back to swiftly brought louis lewandowsky, whose thanks, let trump be trump. so there are people who wanted apparatus, who have long professional careers and as much as people want to think it's a dirty thing, politics is an industry. >> this is a profession and a business. i am a political professional gentle. this is what i do for living the people that are at the top of that campaign or that same stature who but they're far above my sector because they've had bigger races than i've had and i've been on presidentials, but they will do their best and they will try to guide him. but at the end of the day, donald trump will do what donald trump wants to. let trump be trump. it's do as much as you can answer charges, can do it earn as a republican democrat. >> i'd disagree with what she has to say, but what she's saying is how you're supposed to run a campaign. >> we are professionals. we know there's a way to take on, come on hours. there's a way to take on donald trump's, you're watching one side, figuring out how to do it. one of the other side is not if i'm going to run a race, we know how to do it. >> and it's not that harder. they would be paying me to do

it listen to how i even talk yeah any and i do want to talk about this very serious issue this past week and we're going to talk to the haitian community in springfield a few moments, but trump promising mass deportation program and then promising to deport the people who were in springfield, ohio who are they are legally keeps saying that they're there legally yes, absolutely. >> i mean, i've this is one piece of trump's rhetoric that when you talk to republicans on the hill, they are very uncomfortable with and they are careful about how they talk about it. they say, well, it's unclear how would this would actually work. this is how to clear how logistically what work. but there's a deep discomfort with that and that is because there are many reasons, but one, this country has done this in the past. this is not something that is foreign to our history. and that the wall street journal, we actually tracked down one of the few survivors of the last mass deportation a man who

various a small child was eisenhower yesterday. eisenhower? yeah. yeah. he was his family was sent from california to mexico. he didn't speak a word of english and it was just a traumatic part of his history and he is one of the few survivors would encourage people to read the story. it was a very moving piece in the journal and reading this story is just 11 example of what one human being went through the house many years later decades later, it still impacts his life. so the idea that this country is on the verge of that, i mean what i will say is that republicans on the hill have found ways in which they do not like this and would put it up as long as we've talked about this, jim, the immigration system is broken. there's a lot of blame to go around. we need to fix it once and for all, i've got to business partners who are both immigrants. they both have legal status. and one of them getting sworn in as a citizen on tuesday here in washington, dc, afford to a law process and words matter because when you

start grouping all immigrants together and folks from all over, it's hard thing in words mattered. you're going to end of what you're seeing in springfield. that's a shame and it creates a lot of fear and communities like springfield, ohio, we're going to talk about that in a few months. standby everybody. so what do people in springfield, ohio think about all of those two haitian members of that community are my guests. next, stay tuned i'm jenny and i'm dave and we're we've asked national design and remodeling partners yeah. >> i mean, look out for custom designs from me and remodeling tips from me. >> i'm excited. are you attending so excited favorite even with this one. >> always going to be ready for the baby from design and products due removal, an installation we about this with you through every step of your remodel. the color visit rebirth.com for your free in-home design consultation look in good

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just want to live and flourish and raise our families and then healthy and safe environment how about we love one another so how are folks doing in springfield, ohio? >> let's bring in some current residents of springfield vls, dorsonville is the executive director of the haitian community help and support center and roast the mark joseph is the operation manager of the haitian community help and support center thank you. both so much. villas and roast them are for being with us. we appreciate it so much and i just want to know how you're community is doing can you tell us how the community is doing, how, how people are feeling? are they scared or they worried with all of these lies that are flying around about what is happening inside your community. >> yeah i can say that it is so unfortunate situation it

creates a lot of fear and confusion amongst the haitian community here in springfield they also on a decisive not knowing if they should stay in the city are go somewhere else they keep calling our office as skin asking us if that is not going to escalate to violence so we work with them trying to lower the tension. >> but people still in confusion and people are saying they're worried about violence. is that is that correct? >> yes, it is correct. and because they do not know what might happen to them and they were already warned out when they came to springfield, fleeing all that happened to

haiti so yet, themselves into a situation like this. just makes it worse and roast them do you have any idea where this thing came from that people were eating pets and dogs and cats when you heard this for the first time, what was your reaction? idea where those will most come from. and when i heard that i was shot in for sweated because nobody eats cats. >> and i don't know. >> it is a lot for us in swing. it is a lot for the asian community here i feel terrible even asking about it. but, you know, trump is also saying that the immigrants in springfield, the haitian immigrants there are are there illegally. but that is not the case if you

could say something to donald trump, what would you say? >> i i would say that he has to control the rhetoric and the narrative that he puts out there because all that he says can harm a community again, harms on some people. he has to pay attention to the mental health of people and people who were already warrant out of life trying to fight a safe place to raise their family and to find a job and i think that he has to know that words matter what he says can just cause a community to turn into chaos of psychologically speaking, because people sometimes don't believe that

especially leaders seeking the highest office of the united states should understand that they have to be able to, to pay attention to people's mental health and rosa mark, what would you say to donald trump the same thing. >> and just to add that each shoe and he had to an issue because putting the news maybe fact check the information before but i don't know why he did it. and instead, it just spread the news and it is it caused a lot of fears right now in the community because our issued people of fears they are planning to less wife and even today, i went to a toe in

springfield from patient business to asian business. and spoke to some people in the community i can feel the fears of the people of the community and even one of them even cry because he said that it just came to spend and all those happens. so we cry i'm crying yes understand, springfield, ohio is a very nice community and the haitian people who have moved there made it even better. >> that's what we've been hearing from the folks there on the ground and i'm sure you're a big part of that vls and rose the mara. thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. i hope things get better their real soon much. >> alright, just ahead, a high profile case over a death row

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and was sentenced to death. he has long maintained his innocence back in january st. louis county prosecutor wesley bell filed a request to have williams's conviction overturned after testing found his dna was not on the murder weapon, the dna argument broke down when new testing showed the weapon had been mishandled and contaminated, they'll then announced an agreement with williams to get him off death row and re sentenced to life in prison. but it was blocked by the state's republican attorney general andrew bailey, who is seeking reelection. bailey appealed to the state supreme court, which ordered a judge to hold an evidentiary hearing and issue a ruling. and on thursday that judge wrote this, there is no basis for a court to find that williams is innocent and no court has made such a filing. marcellus williams i execution is set for september 24, and st. louis county prosecutor, wesley bell joins us. doubt we should mention he's also running for congress and mr. bell. let's just start off by asking you this man's

execution is just days away. this is a major setback what is your reaction to this judge's ruling? is there any hope left in this case disappointment, obviously we take took an oath to bring justice, not just convictions we created a conviction integrity unit because we recognize that there are times when we recommend folks that they have to go to jail and we want to make sure that there are safeguards in place to make sure we get it right. >> this case was obviously before me, but that doesn't change. that oath. and so it's important for us to do just that, bring justice, get it right, and that's why we took this file this motion. >> and the judge says that the officer who mishandled the murder weapon without gloves did so not in bad faith you argue that it was in bad faith tell us about that the point of the matter of this matter is that there are questions with respect to the integrity of the conviction and we're talking

about a punishment that we can't undo there was an agreement on the table to give mr. williams life in prison without the possibility of parole. >> the family supported this outcome. it would have given closure to this matter but again they as well as our region has to relive this over and serious questions about the integrity of the of the conviction. and as a result, we should not be executing him just for folks who didn't see this story pop up before tonight. >> i mean, is it your view that the state could be facing a situation where an innocent man may be put to death you know, i don't want to get ahead of the process we endeavor to investigate this matter thoroughly and i got to give credit to not only folks in my office and our conviction incident review unit, but also lay through a firm that

assisted us with this matter to do everything that we could to get to the bottom of this. but also highlight the questions that we had with the original conviction and so it again, it's disappointing because again, our oath is to bring justice. and in this sounds like you have doubts. >> we and we have doubts and we we'd like the opportunity invest to investigate those. but in the meantime, let's not execute and let's not do something that we can't undo in the event that there is evidenced that of the actual innocence. >> and what are the next steps are you and communication with the governor. what happens next so we're evaluating those the statute that authorized us to be able to bring this motion is fairly new. >> when some respects we are in unchartered waters, if you will and so we're evaluating all of our options if any but our goal is to spare mr. williams life because of the questions that we have with this with this conviction and we should

mention you're running for congress. andrew bailey is running for reelection as attorney general. bailey he has said the effort to get williams off of death row is a false narrative meant to fulfill political ends what's your response to that the, the questions with respect to the murder weapon, the questions with respect to the witnesses and the reliability of the witnesses at the time that's that alone justifies not executing this individual life in prison without the possibility of parole gives closure. >> it also gives williams in his defense and opportunity to continue to look at evidence of actual innocence. but if there are questions, if there's at least even the shadows the doubt with respect to someone's innocence. it is not in the interest of justice execute that individual as you were saying, you can't undo it if it happens and you find out later. we hear some evidence that may have proven his innocence. alright. wesley bell, thank you very much for

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think for myself as i have this amazing platform. >> so i think the biggest thing would be just encourage people to register to vote can city chiefs quarterback patrick mahomes also not picking his side? he had to address reporters after trump suggested his wife, brittany, was a fan of his i don't want my place and my platform to be used to endorse a candidate or do whatever. either way, i think my place is to inform people to get registered to vote is to inform people to do their own research but some other big names have decided to get political. >> the nba, steph curry for example, backed harris at the dnc and he just recently explained why anytime you step into this lane, you know it's gonna be received you know, a lot of different ways. >> and for me it's all about creating conversations that are about being decent human beings. first and foremost, i think we've lost that a little bit to where obviously

endorsing com is important for me, for my family sports columnist, nancy armor putting it this way today, elite athletes, she says, are born with unique physical gifts and singular dedication. >> moral courage is something they have defined for themselves. and this week was a reminder that not many do let's talk about this with sports story and louis more, he's a co-host of the black athlete podcasts and the author of the great black hope louis great to see you. thanks for doing this. we appreciate it if you can't give us a little bit of the history here too about athletes coming off of the field and showing some moral and political courage and expressing their beliefs. i mean, i, you know, i remember the stories of muhammad ali and so this is not that unusual thing. >> yeah i think some of the great athletes that we've had have always understood that they had the power and the platform to do things like ali, jackie robinson was always writing columns and getting

people to talk about fairness and equality, and getting people to register to vote joe. louis to muhammad ali, all these people talking about registered to vote. some people like arthur ashe. so there is a history for athletes today to follow, and i just hope that they follow them and that was my question though, was, what would you like to see athletes do? do we need to hear from folks like lebron james? i mean, do do you think we need to see more of that? i mean, there's an expectation that athletes have voiced these days, they should voice their opinion a lot of this happens on social media. what do you think? >> yeah, i think that athletes understand they have a powerful platform and someone like lebron has certainly used it, right? he's been for obama clinton, and biden. he's helped create this program called more than a vote to get folks to register and also open up polling places. but i also think that athletes our understanding that today it's

pretty toxic. and so i think when you played that clip of patrick mahomes, i think when you see that, you see that how complicated things are families, relationships, teammates. and so he's a little bit reluctant to say who he is for. but i still think that he was right and telling people no matter what i say, you need to do your homework, you need to vote. >> yeah. we played that clip of caitlin clark. i just thought, my goodness, in his rookie season for caitlin clark, there has been so much controversy swirling around her instagram like it is kicking up a lot of controversy and stirring things up. so i suppose athletes feel like they have to be careful these days. is it because the sports organizations put this pressure on them as it because they don't want to, they just don't want to get thrown in into the middle of a huge hornet's nest you know what the clerk situation she's young. she's the most popular athlete in america. and i think she wasn't ready for the blowback on that. and then she followed

that up with a very great response. but a lot of athletes also worry about the profits, right? they have contracts and they're worried that if they go for somebody else name is michael jordan said, republicans buy sneakers too. i think they're more, some of them are more concerned about their brand than they are about the politics right now yeah, and athletes do care about their legacies on the field of what about what about the actions off the field? >> and do you think activism is something that today's superstar? cars are lacking in we just not seeing enough of it it's hard to say because if we think about it like historically weak your own, we only really name a few, a handful of and those are the very brave. >> those are the policies that wilma rudolph's, that bill russell's, the giancarlo tommie smith it's today's generation. you have people like cabinet, you have kind of like love ron and the reason why there's so limited because it's so dangerous right? there is a huge pushback when you do

that of society from teens, from organizations. so i think that the ones we remember, we remember them because they were so great and because they did and you mentioned colin kaepernick, which is such it's a great example because i suppose there are some athletes, some sports organizations that say, okay, well, we don't want to get into a situation like that, but colin kaepernick was right. >> he was ahead of his time to me that that's a story that i think just will always feel like something really unfair was was totally unfair was done to him right. and he'll always be remembered. right. so nobody's got to remember his stats. but there were remember what he did and he was in conversation just this week when tyreek hill of the miami dolphins was pulled over by the police. and now once again, we're having a conversation about police brutality audie the same conversation that we had in 2016 when kaepernick was kneeling absolutely.

>> and you're absolutely right about tyreek hill. and in the question has been asked if it wasn't tyreek hill, what would have happened in that kind of a situation? obviously, we've seen those kinds of things play out over and over again and really, really bad ways. louis, more great conversation. wish we had more time to talk about it, but thanks for coming on and discussing it's very important subject. thanks a lot yeah. >> thank you for having me. >> all right. appreciate it. all right. >> just ahead from the debate to trump's embrace of a far-right 9-11 conspiracy theorist. it was a wild week in politics. did you catch everything that happened? stick around to take our quiz. we have a quiz coming up that's right. but first, this week's cnn hero in arizona, thousands of children are in the foster care system. many of them are native american and struggling to connect with the roots and heritage of their people. one foster mom is trying to change that when i tell people i was abundantly blessed within six months, i became a mom to four children that were all under the age of 2-years-old that's

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host arizona be ohio. >> see, florida i'm going to just go you're gonna go with b and b see i would have guessed seems very florida ask but no, it's actually a arizona oh, you know, board right there. >> eat less kittens oh, real probably chick-fil-a there in the green room where obviously wrong. yeah. you were not going back to abc and talk they got the answers. >> okay? >> which artists sued trump this week for the use of their song is at a taylor swift be the white stripes, or see elton john i knew the answer to this, you know, i didn't know this one. well, i have the answers in front of me, but i did know it beforehand. >> i'm going with b, i'm going to say st. be the white stripes, jack. why not happy about that? >> oh, we're going to vote to seven nation army. >> was that mossad continues rainy up of song ahead a lot of what state are they from? white stripes. california. >> thanks so. okay.

>> oh, i went double trivia. >> but very good how many vmas to taylor swift when this week? >> oh, i know this 17 b19 are sci-fi wife, who's a swiftie. i knew this one right away. >> well, you guys competent. i went alexandria ocasio-cortez is currently in a back-and-forth online in a feud with who is it? a marjorie taylor greene, be j.d. vance, or see jill stein? >> i gotta get this one right? because she's my client. >> oh, yeah. >> that's right. see. jill stein. very good. any weld? well done. >> again, all the text messages? yes. >> that's right next one. during the debate over what issue did trump say? well, i didn't discuss it with jd. well, i didn't discuss it with jd. is it a pet eating lies? be and tariffs on china or c, federal abortion ban veto oh, yeah, maybe no, yes. >> yes. see you guys were

paying attention. all right. so you watched the debate, congratulates a lot of cnn over here six, which campaign merch was president biden's seen wearing this week? is it a trump 2024 hat? be a trump 2024 shirt or see and make america great again, hat with an anc, the same. it's kind of a trick question. we're trying to trick. tricky which one is it? oh, it's going to be this one it's gone by may. it is a very good well done there's biden. but it's not the man. it's not it's a trump the chinese that was a trick question, that was very nice real trump merch hat because i she very specific about making sure everything's made in america, including china or seven, the harris-trump debate handshake was the first one since which matchup a obama romney 2012 fbi biden, ryan 2012 or c. >> clinton truck 2016 aaron, you definitely looked at the answers yet. >> all right. i'm just this good to clinton trump, 2016,

very good alright. who said this week's voters must choose between the lesser of two evils. was it a pope francis be jesse ventura? we're see joe rogan? >> did i tell you i went to the basilica in mexico city this week. i know very good. >> hey like me over the country, that's holding we to the end or know, we have were at the great. >> but what right arm wrestling company's you, got you did well you, came very close andy, i'm sorry. the music one was i mean, i'm not good at that. >> you're not going to make it a double jeopardy. i am moving on to next week's competition for $100,000. yeah. >> there should be a tiebreaker here, but they're saying next week and we're out of time. so it's going to be a tire iron question because i know who did that jeff galloway saying mr. manner. there you go, will give it to erin all right. >> thanks, everybody, don't forget to tune in to cnn speaking a quiz shs