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do you to downs. >> the bomb threats in springfield, ohio i don't know what happened with the bomb threats. i know that has been taken over by illegal migrants and that's a terrible thing that happened springfield was this beautiful town and now they're going through hell. it's a sad thing, not going to happen with me. i can tell you right now will trump. >> they're refusing to denounce bomb threats that have triggered evacuations at schools in springfield, ohio. this week after he and his campaign spread false claims about haitian immigrants in that city. he claims those immigrants who by the way, are there legally are taking over the city. it's a line he repeated last night during a vegas rally where he vowed to use law enforcement for mass deportations harris, meantime, trying to peel away voters from trump in his own turf, the vice president spent the last week holding rallies and meeting with voters in deep breath read parts of pennsylvania and tonight, harris back in washington, dc, where she will join president joe biden on

stage at an event there that's hosted by the congressional black caucus. and that's where we find cnn's eva mckend. she is outside the washington convention center. eve of the vice president giving her first interview since the debate in pennsylvania with a local news station in pennsylvania to talk us, talk to us more about that strategy strategy is courting republican voters. >> they are going to these deep red counties where maybe they won't necessarily win outright, but they want this has been clear for a long while ever since the start of the campaign. one of the first coalitions they rolled out what's republicans for harris? they believe that there is a desire among some conservatives in this country, a sizable number. two turn away from former president trump. maybe they don't like the way the former president talks about immigration, for instance, the vice president is also leaning into her personal biography as a gun owner in a different way. let's listen and i am a gun

owner and tim walz, my running mate is also gun owner. we're not taking anybody's guns away i support the second amendment and i support reasonable gun safety laws. >> now, as for tonight, the vice president, the president going to be here addressing the congressional black caucus foundation. they of course are no strangers to this event. they do this every year. there'll be among supporters and friends. the board is that they will need in the crucial coming weeks i hit. of course the vice president was a member of the caucus when she served in the united states senate, jess. >> all right. eva mckend for us there in washington, dc. thank you so much for that update and joining us now to discuss this and more cnn political commentator and democratic strategist maria cardona and republican strategist katie frost. good to have both of you here. oh, with us on a saturday night. thanks so much. katie, let's start first with you. i want to go back to where we where we started at the

beginning of our show about the former president. again stoking these fears about immigrants this time in springfield, ohio, he was saying he didn't know about the bomb threats there but people who do know all about those threats to children, teachers at elementary schools, they were forced to evacuate. this week katie, why do you think the president continues to talk about this and stoke, have this really strong fear-based rhetoric around it when it's having an incredibly real impact on the lives of people in that town what's great to be with you again, jessica, you know, and i'll tell you there is genuine fear in our country around what is happening from this unchecked open border policies of the biden/harris administration, now you're pointing to specific instances, springfield, but i can tell you i'm from georgia we had the famous case of laken riley. >> there is a real impact in our country from unchecked immigration at the border, we don't know who's coming in. we don't know where they're

going. it's a serious problem. so you say, why is he stoking these fears? he's addressing the fears the american people have. if you look at what the top concern sirens of people are in this country, it is the economy and its immigration which is so closely tied to our safety. that was interesting earlier in your program when you're doing this segment on el salvador, those are the same concerns they have. there is a universal thing. what do people want? they want a good life, they want a good job. and you want to be safe that is what we're seeing here. the global concern, and i believe there's very serious concerns around what will happen to our communities if there is not any kind of check on this issue? >> yeah. and kate, katie, i hear you and you're right in all of the data they do show that immigration is such a real issue for so many voters. but here in this case, he's talking about things that aren't true. we have checked if his claims about that community. we're right and when he could be talking about the issues like you're talking about right now. he's in instead choosing to talk about these lies. and i'm just like,

why do you think that the he thinks that's the best way forward? >> well, i'll tell you what is happening. >> we're talking about immigration. the number one issue for president trump. i mean, you can disagree with the approach, but at the end of the day, what are we all doing? we're talking about immigration an issue, the vice president harris is incredibly weak on. this is the person who's put in charge of securing the border. she was the border czar and what has happened record numbers of border crossings. you may disagree with the approach. however, we're talking about this issue that is incredibly difficult for vice president harris to address. xi called a wall, a medieval vanity project. >> and now she has images of that very segment of the wall, as you had in your own network. >> and kfile, they did the exponent today on that. she took all the wall of medieval vanity project, but now she has segments of trump's border wall in her own ads. so we're talking about the issue that president trump wants us to talk about and maria, how do you think the harris campaign is dealing with this issue that a lot of americans are

concerned about and, and do feel like has not been handled hold in the way they would like she's dealing with it in a way that real leaders deal with issues that they want to solve. xi and president biden have actually put together a solution. they did to executive orders one, to increase border security, one to expand sits in do you know why they did that? jessica because when it came time to sign a very strict, strong border security bill, that was actually negotiated by the most conservative republicans in the senate along with democrats donald trump said you know what, i need this issue to weaponize it for the election because there's really nothing else i can talk to the american people about. i need to lie to them about immigration. i need to make up conspiracy theories. i need to really focus on this and really injects fear into americans because i have nothing else to offer the american people.

>> and he told his senators to say no to that border security bill. >> you know what that tells me, jessica, that donald trump, along with the maga senators in congress, who bowed down every time he tells them to do something, have no interest in governing, have absolutely no idea how to solve this issue? and they should not be taken seriously on immigration. one of the things that americans need to realize and katie needs to look at these stats as well. is that two day border crossings illegal border crossings are lower than when donald trump left office. >> so that i think is a huge focus where vice president harris can actually clone, not just close the gap, but flip this issue on immigration, on gain. >> the upper hand and katie, we've been reporting also about the far-right support or laura loomer who has been traveling with the former president and attended the 911

events with him, despite being a 9-11 conspiracy theorist here's how he responded when asked about it, we can listen this clip i just don't know. >> laura is a supporter. i don't know. she is she is a strong person she's got strong opinions and i don't know what she said, but that's not up to me. she is a supporter really does have extreme conspiracy theories all right. takes on things. other republicans have expressed concerns that she's so close to the former president, katie. what do you think about voters how did they take in this information? >> i don't believe this is going to be an issue that at the end of the day will change a voter's mind. >> it's a distraction. >> we shouldn't be talking about this right now. we should be talking about the issues that are impacting voters and real americans. but at the end of the day is someone going to flip their vote based on someone who flew on a plane at one point no, i don't believe so. it all. but what they're going to see him be more

concerned about is the issues that we've talked about. >> and as we were talking about all that data, what is it it's the economy, it's immigration and those are issues that are very hard for the vice president. >> so of course, she's going to want to keep the focus on something like this. because she does not have a record. she can defend she does not have a plan to go forward and she's not going to be able to sit down and do interviews like we're doing right now because when she gets off script, it's very uncomfortable. it feels like a deleted scene from vk maria. >> i want to go ahead it's not the vice president who is talking about laura loomer. >> i'm sorry. that is donald trump is making the conversation about laura because he's the one who was listening to a far right extremist xenophobe racist that should be very concerning to voters and i do think that it, it injects this continued discontent and understanding

about who donald trump really is, and especially for independent voters, for suburban women, for all oh, the voters where kamala harris is now going to campaigned smartly. so in red districts and in red suburbs and small towns, to underscore the fact that donald trump has absolutely unfit to have another four years in the oval office because he makes up conspiracy theories race because he makes applies, and because he listens to loony people like laura loomer who was dangerous to the united states. and does absolutely nothing to focus on solutions, which is what americans want katie, maria brought up. go ahead. >> now say maria, i would ask me, you said who is donald trump or the american people are asking who is vice president harris? where does she actually stand? is that excellent piece was put out here on this network showing how she said a lot of things in 2019 when she was running to be

the democratic nominee. and now she's distancing herself she stand from debate stage and says, i support second amendment. i'm a gun owner, but when she was running for president in 2019, she said she had supported mandatory gun buybacks she like i said earlier, or she's flipped on the wall, she's flipping on fracking. there's a lot of issues here that people don't know where she actually stands because appears that her position change based on who she's campaigning to. and that's deepened aser they don't know what we're voting for. >> do you really want to talk about flip-flopping? do you really want to have this conversation about who is the biggest flip flopper in the free world when you have donald trump take the position today, or actually this our and in 30 minutes, he will take the absolute opposite position. so i'm sorry. you all have zero credibility when it comes to focusing in on kamala harris's position today. oh, that it might be a little bit different than what she had four years ago? no. kamala harris has

actually having the kinds of conversations because that she needs to have with american people, laying out a plan, talking about an opportunity economy telling them that she's going to wake up every day, fighting for them to expand the middle-class to help working class families. while donald trump only wakes up thinking about one thing, how can i help myself? how can i make myself richer? how can i? make myself et where everyone is talking about me katie, i do want to cover one more topic before i let you guys go. >> i know you worked for senator ted cruz previously it's the trump campaign adviser, chris lacivita tweeted out criticism of the cruz campaign saying, what the hell is wrong with the senate race in texas? there's obviously layers to all of this and personal relationships and whatnot, but what do you make of trump campaign adviser publicly criticizing a republican incumbents senate campaign? >> you know, i'm not

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and the election messages are election messages sometimes they are not very real and that's why i think this these messages can have not very make us nervous. >> hello, are people, of course, of course. >> but i had i had phone call with donald trump and he said that he's very supportive and we had a good conversation. that's why this is recently when i had only one during this period, yes, it was i think to tomasa ago and he said he was very supportive he will be aware is supportive and he is he understands how is difficult to survive during the war, and he will do everything to strengthen ukraine. so i don't know. >> i mean, that's great, that it sounds this way. and that's why i want to share this plan. to hear his reaction. >> let's discuss now with cnn global affairs analyst and former secretary of defense under president trump, mark

esper. secretary esper, great to have you here with us. thanks for being with us on a saturday sure thing. jessica, good to be with you we just heard that clip from fareed zakaria is interview with the with president zelenskyy. >> he seems to think that this is just talk from the former president what do you agree? how do you assess the rhetoric and language that's coming from former president trump? >> well, in any election, particularly a presidential election, there is a lot of rhetoric, but i think donald trump has a track record here. now, over the past three years or so of campaigning that he does not intend to many ways to support ukraine beyond what's been provided so far. and he said it, as you noted earlier a twice he was unable to say that he wants ukraine to win. so presence lenski, knowing that the election here in the united states is very close has to be very even-handed is downplaying those remarks because he knows that in a matter of what, four months or so, if donald trump

wins in november, he may be dealing with president donald trump second term on january 20, 20th 20th, 2025. and we need to work with him and try and do his best to convince president trump that his country needs continued assistance. so he's playing a smart political game, but i think if you look at the actions of ukraine, you see them pressing now to get this restrictions lifted by the biden administration, you see the offensive kursk, which was going on several months now, several weeks now. i think they are moving into position to make sure they can gain as much leverage as possible in the event that they do end up in a negotiation with russia and secretary esper, do you think is talking about this push to be able to use these weapons, these long-range missiles that can go from weaponry that can go deeper into russia. do you think that's something that eventually president biden his administration will say yes to well, that's been a record now for two plus years, whether it's m1 tanks or atacms are f-16s, it's no, no, no, no, no

over a period of months and then it's yes, that it takes more money let's to get the weapon system delivered. and in this case it's a tactical restriction on the use of a weapon system. so look, i think they absolutely must lift the restrictions they should not have been there in the first place and the sooner they do so, the better because right now ukraine is under duress. russian forces have gained ground in the donbass as region they are approaching a crucial logistics and transportation hub in the city, the town of pokrovsk. and if if the ukrainians are allowed to use us weapons and us weapons, the british or french weapons, cruise missiles. then that may be able to kind of knock the russians back a little bit. maybe stalled offensive and give the ukrainians more time to push back against the russian infantry. >> do you think the biden administration has been to cautious oh, absolutely. >> both on weapons sales, weapons deliveries, and under restrictions are imposing on

the ukrainians look, it's, it's, it's unconscionable that ukraine is not being allowed to strike back into russia at what i say, non-nuclear military targets. >> when the russians are pummeling ukrainian civilian targets all across the country with missiles, with drones, with rockets, killing civilians, conducting war crimes. >> we should be allowed ukraine to fight to win and not fight to a draw. and that's been a chief criticism of an administration which otherwise has done a good job keeping the allies together and supplying arms and ammunition. and other material to the ukrainians and putin has said, if this is allowed, it would be as if he will be, russia would be at war with nato do you think that's bluster at this point? >> how seriously do you think america and also the western alliance should be taking these threats from putin i do think it's bluster. >> i mean, you always have to consider the potentialities, but i think it's largely

buster. >> it has been for two plus years. he's used that type of language before and he's gone even further by rattling the nuclear saber a little bit by talking about nuclear weapons. but look, i think we cannot be deterred that will remain the criticism the biden ministration is that they've been to sell the trb and not providing ukrainians with the weapons they needed when they wanted them. and in this case restricting the use of atacms or the british and french cruise missiles against russia. and look, jessica, there still hasn't been much talk yet about the restrictions being placed on f-16s. i'm sure there are some being placed we just don't know what they are at this point in time. at least i haven't heard so so i think all these things need to be looked at and we need to unleash the ukrainians now, in the final months before the u.s. election. so that if it does go badly for ukraine, in the sense that donald trump is elected and donald trump follows through on his rhetoric, at least ukrainians might be in a better position at the negotiating table against moscow than they would be otherwise.

>> how serious of a threat for ukraine and its fight against russia is a second donald trump presidency look it's very serious. >> he said the other night, again, that he would begin trying to reach a negotiation to end the war. if he won on november 6. so before he's actually inaugurated, and he's talking before and his acolytes have about ending ukrainian, ending support for the ukraine fight. and if that happens then my concern is, he, first of all, he could he could cut off immediately the pipeline of arms and assistance. so it's not like the 61 billion billion dollars package that was passed a few months ago would allow to continue through the pipe stream he could actually cut that off and i think if american aid ends then i think it's only a matter of time before you start seeing other nato so allies. and or curtail their assistance in one way, shape, or form. and inevitably that would push the ukrainians to the negotiating table in a very disadvantageous position, which would not be a good signal. first of all for the

democracies of the world standing up against an autocracy of russia. but it's going to send a very bad message to to china, which continues to i taiwan and want to take that over at some point as well. >> and i want to step into politics just quickly before you go. i know you've said you won't be voting for former president trump. since then we have seen a number of republicans, including most recently former vice president dick cheney saying that he will be voting for vice president harris does she have your vote? do you think you can get there with her and support her this time i'm still watching this election unfold like millions of other americans, i have 60 some days to make my decisions. >> i thought she did a very good job the other night at the debate and as i said before, i've always been looking for a candidate who moves to the center and she's making moves to the center. i do that. she needs to better explain why she is making those moves. but what has happened, what experienced as she as she undergone what has she learned to help her move there on any number of issues and of course, on the foreign policy front, i think

she's saying the right things with regard to ukraine and other international issues that i like. so look, i'm going to take my time and we'll see what happens on election day. >> all right. we will watch it unfold together, secretary mark esper. thanks so much. >> thanks jessica still ahead. >> we're talking with felt veteran donte stallworth about the nfl's latest concussion controversy involving miami's star quarterback. you're in the cnn newsroom want is right, tear plus hulu max bundle, slowing my cancer from growing and living longer are two things i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment and with kisqali, i can have both because scaly is a pill that when taken with in a row tastes inhibitor, helps delay cancer

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the game and star quarterback suffering another frightening concussion during thursday night's game concussion history, one was sincerely doubt that he should to what tunco by lowest family is going to talk to him about what your life looks like after football does not sound retire, it's not worth it it's not worth to play the game i hadn't witnessed anything like i've seen this happened to him three times. >> i just think at some point, you know, needs to play football, take care of your family is in the league's concussion protocol, so it's unclear when he could see the field again right now, but this was the third diagnose concussion of his pro career. >> former nfl wide receiver donte stallworth is joining us now. don't do think so much for being here with us it's so nice to have somebody to talk about this from their personal experience. do want to know what went through your mind when you first saw to take that hit yeah. >> jessica, i was horrified when i saw the hit and there

was a visceral reaction that i had and honestly it wasn't from the hit itself because they hit looked like a really routine hit. it wasn't one of these more violent hits that we've seen to take. where his head is slammed into the turf. you know, where he immediately gets knocked unconscious. this was a routine tackle and the fact that when i saw him go in like that you know, it's fourth-down kids trying to make a play for his team. they're losing by a lot of points and he's he's out there scrapping in fighting them to see him. take that head was tough. the reaction that he had afterwards from that that hit was definitely where the visceral reaction came in because we've seen to take hits like this before and you know, it's really tough. the kids 26-years-old, he's worked his entire life to be to where he is to be able to live out his dream. he's since he was a child, to be able to provide for his family generations down the line. and for now, for that to come under under question, whether he can continue or not, it's i feel i feel really bad for him and his family. it's a

tough time for him and his family. >> and if you were to put yourself in his shoes and had dealt with multiple concussions, what would you do? would you consider retiring, hanging it up? >> just good. i think you know, so for me it's twofold. i have to be honest and say that when i was playing, i was blessed to play ten years from 2002 to 2012. and we didn't have the information that the players have today. but i know that when players would would get concussions the nomenclature around the league at the time was extremely different than what it is today. today, we are actually calling them what they are. we're calling and concussions back then, we would say that oh, he got dinged up and then he's back in the game, you know, 20 minutes later that's not happening today. and i played with reckless abandon just like a lot of guys did. and you don't you don't think about 51020 years down the line, you're thinking about the next play. you're thinking about the next game you're not everything but the next season, jessica because you're such a young kid that you see your eyes through these young kids when you were a child, you wanted to

play in the nfl. and so now you have that opportunity. you're not thinking about 10:20 years down the line, but today players have that information that we did not have and i think it's going to be a difficult time for him. i i obviously want the best for all players. i want them to make as much money as possible and to leave this game as healthy as possible. but, you know, to is going to have, to have that discussion with his family. he just had his second child, i believe and i have to have that family that conversation with his mother who back in 20 2022, when he suffered those two concussions, i was three really vicious hits to the where his head was slammed to the ground his mother was calling for him to retire or at least having conversations with him about retiring and he even admitted that he contemplated so he's going to have to go through that round again and i just hope the best for a young player and here he's going to want to play if the doctors somehow clear him which he easily could be cleared, not anytime soon, but i mean to resume his career, he's going to want to play that's the competitor that he is. it's

your dream as a child. no one wants to give up their childhood dream for for anything really, but it's it's going to be a rough road ahead for two and his family and he's going to have to have those difficult discussions. >> it's so hard, right? because i totally hear what you're saying about this is your dream. this is the thing you've worked so hard to do. and yet you also owe it to yourself, to your family to make sure to your point, you're as healthy as you can be. when you leave. what is a very physically demanding, sometimes violent game when those kinds of conversations happen with your family members, when they're trying to counsel you who is he listening to typically? who are who would you listen to if you were in the situation? is it your family is your coaches who was he talking? talking to you right now about this i want to start off and say initially with to you know, his his family as they he's he has a tight-knit family. >> his wife, i believe they have two children together. that's going to play into it. and his mother, you know, as i noted before, had asked him or

at least had conversations with him about retiring and he contemplated did that. so i believe that he's going to have these conversations with his family. and i want to say the head coach, mike mcdaniel, who actually played under here in washington. he's he's a genuine guy. he really loves his players. he really loves his organization and he told he's going to have he's already had conversations with to telling to, you know, that he's quote, the quarterback of his family emily during the game, he said this, so he's already telling to don't worry about football will handle this side. you just get healthy and be as healthy as you can. it's gonna be a tough road ahead. like i said, the kid has gone through so much adversity, whether people will people talking about can even play in the nfl we even make it. and now he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league, but he's had some tough injuries and this is something that he's going to have to definitely have these conversations with his family and think long and hard about what he wants to do for his future. >> all right. donte stallworth. thanks so much for your perspective on this. we

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call it the daily routine i'm david culver in el salvador. >> in this cnf investigating another close call on an airport runway after an alaska airlines flight had to slam on the brakes and abort its takeoff in nashville, the planes breaks were hit so hard, the crew reported some of the tires blown out it's just the latest incident is federal agencies look at the sharp rise of these close calls, in some cases, hero pilots are the ones who prevented incidents from turning deadly pete muntean has cnn's exclusive interview with two pilots who averted disaster in austin with only feet to spare 32. the voice that you are hearing, is that a fedex pilot rob redeem approaching austin-bergstrom international airport before dawn on february 4, 4, 2023, bradeen, alongside

captain hugo carvajal, thought this was going to be an uneven eventful landing. >> it was very routine right up until the very end. >> this investigative animation shows the disaster that was unfolding in front of the fedex pilots, a southwest airlines flight was cleared for takeoff in front of them but it's sad on the runway for 19 seconds, a delay invisible to even the air traffic controller in the tower with thick fog blanketing the airport, droplets as or confirm when a row well, the two airplanes continued barreling closer together. one bradeen began looking out of the windshield and i saw a position light in the silhouette of the southwest airplane right over the glare shield with closure you saw the silhouette of the other assaults? silhouette of the other plane, which is when i called go around, go around, go around southwest border fedex is on the go. investigators say, captain

carla hall, know whose death immediately missing this southwest flight bite 150 to 170 feet. the move not only spared the lives of the fedex grew, but the 131 people on southwest flight 7:08, this is the fedex team's first interview since they're close call how terrifying was that? what was the feeling like? >> it was definitely a shocking moment. you don't expect to see an airplane that that close? >> i knew it was pretty close because i knew rob's just the inflection in his voice when he said go around and then the focus at that point is just getting away from the ground. the airplane. >> the austin incident is now known it's the closest near-collision during a time when they kept happening at airports coast to coast, the national transportation safety board is now investigating at least a dozen similar incidents since the start of last year. >> great job. >> during an spring, chair jennifer homendy. thank the fedex pilots for

saving lives this incident could have been catastrophic if not for the heroic actions of the fedex crew on thursday, carvalho and bradeen been received their union's superior airmanship award for their teamwork and vigilance that prevented what could have been one of the worst air disaster in decades. >> this could have been a tragedy if there were not two well-trained and qualified pilots on the flight deck that day, we could certainly be telling a very different story right now. >> are you hear us i guess it depends on your perspective to us. >> we did our job it's what we're trained to do. >> pete muntean, cnn, washington week nights at 11 eastern on cnn

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in practical jokers, all new thursday's of ten on tbs set your dvr now images out of north korea offered a rare glimpse inside the countries closely guarded nuclear weapons program. >> the images are of the country's leader kim jong, un touring or your way grinham enrichment facility, cnn's brian todd has more on what we'll get from north korea's aggressive 40-year-old dictator, an audacious display of nuclear ambition. in new pictures just released by the regime, kim jong un is seen walking along rows of what experts say are gases centrifuges, and being he briefed by scientists analysts say it's extraordinary for the secret of paranoid leader to let the world see inside one of these covert facilities. >> it's incredibly rare. i

think it speaks to kim jong-un's confidence today. he's more capable with his nuclear capabilities he's been in a long time and i think he wants the world and the united states to know that it's nuclear analyst anc get panda's says these centrifuges are used to separate uranium, to isolate material to manufacturer nuclear bombs. while the north koreans did not disclose the name or location of this facility, ponder believes it's a place called kang son, a secret facility just south of the capital that he discovered in 2018. what can us intelligence glean from these new images that the types of centrifuges that the north koreans are using are now more advanced than what we thought they had in the past. that's just gonna make them a lot more efficient. now up their nuclear weapons stockpile what message does kim want to send to the u.s. >> and its allies by releasing these images. now, they don't want outsiders asking questions about whether their weapons work and whether they'll have the ability to continue sizing up and maintaining their stockpiles they want to remove all doubt that they have these

weapons, capabilities indeed, in recent days, kim pledged to quote, exponentially expand north korea's nuclear arsenal. >> kim jong un is trying to build up a nuclear force on a par our with not pakistan, but with united kingdom or france he's trying to change the future and he's trying to telegraph that to us right now. >> honda believes north korea will soon conduct another test of a nuclear bomb the regime has done six of those tests or massive explosions underground, but they haven't conducted one since september of 2070 as for their current stockpile, ponder estimates, kim has between 6,100 nuclear bombs already made, but believes that will increase significantly in the next decade, which a former trump national security advisor says puts the u.s. in a diplomatic bind to excuse the north koreans and say, okay, it's okay for north korea to have a bomb. it's pretty hard then to say, well, no, iran can't have a bomb and saudi arabia can't have a bomb tara ran, it, can't just be that the bad guys can get the bomb with impunity