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road map after a fiery debate, kamala harris tries to dress her advantage we actually have a plan, not just concepts, while donald trump doubles down on distractions, but i also heard she had something in the year. >> what is the trump's strategy vice presidential candidate, senator j.d. vance joins me and keystone is key with seven weeks let's to go trump's campaign lays out their must-win states as kamala harris makes her own focus clear would have done crowds lost ground there since the last election. i'll ask governor josh shapiro ahead, plus, at his word as an ohio city faces threats donald trump's spreads or rumor with no evidence, they're eating the dogs. how is this affecting the town of springfield, ohio? it's mayor rob rue is coming

up washington where the state of our union is doing the math we are 51 days from the election and together with their running mates, vice president kamala harris and former president donald trump are focusing on the states that will decide the next president with the race apparently deadlocked after what could be the only harris trump debate? but donald trump is also doubling down on a baseless claim that he made at the debate that haitian immigrants in springfield, ohio are eating people's pets local officials and the state's republican governor say there's absolutely no evidence of that claim. and they are warning it is actually hurting their city springfield, ohio is facing a fourth day of threats over the claims that have forced a college hospitals, and schools to lock down. meanwhile, springfield police say they received two calls about proud boys marching

through the city here's how donald trump responded to the controversy over haitians, who i want to note are in the u.s. legally i don't know what happened with the bomb threats. >> i know that it's been taken over by illegal migrants and that's a terrible thing that happened. springfield was this beautiful town and now they're going through hell here with me now is republican vice presidential nominee j.d. vance, who represents ohio in the u.s senate. thank you for being here, sir the mayor of springfield, ohio rob rue said, quote, all these federal politicians that have negatively spun our city, they need to no, they're hurting our city. and it was their words that did it before donald trump talked about eating dogs and cats on a debate stage, it was you, senator, who first elevated this baseless rumor. these are your constituents. so why are you putting them at risk? by continuing to spread claims about haitian immigrants

despite officials in your state saying that there's no evidence and pleading for you to stop all, what's putting the residences springfield at risk, which was a town completely ignored by the american media until donald trump and i started surfacing some of these concerns is that they can't afford housing they can't afford health care. >> the schools have been overwhelmed, the hospitals have been overwhelmed, and they're overwhelmed because kamala harris allowed 20,000 haitian migrants to get dropped into a small ohio town of about 40,000 people. and it's completely overwhelmed the services. now you ask, why have i talked about some of the things that i've been talking about? let me just say this my constituents have brought approximately a dozen separate concerns to me, ten of them are verifiable and confirmable, and a couple of them, i talk about because my constituents are telling me firsthand that they're seeing these things. so i have two options, dana, i could ignore them, which is

what the american media has done for years to this community. or i can actually talk about what people are telling me and of course, many of the things that the media says are completely baseless have since been confirmed for example, i was told dana that the american media, by the american media, that it was baseless that migrants were capturing the geese from the local park pond eating them. and yet there are 911 calls from well before this ever became a viral sensation of people complaining about that exact thing happening. so my attitude is listen to my constituents. sometimes they're going to say things that people don't like, but they're saying things that people don't like because their town has been overwhelmed and it's my job to try to fight for them and to protect them. kamala harris opened the border and now these people are suffering. that's what i'm focused on. >> dana, senator, i have to go through several things that you just said. first of all, the clark county sheriff and the ohio department of natural resources reviewed 11 months of

9-1-1 calls. they only identified two instances of people alleging haitians were taking keys at a parks. they found zero evidence to substantiate those claims are also other evidence that you have talked about even retweeted alleged alleged evidence are sourced. social media videos from a different city apparently no connection to haitians. and this is from a conservative activist who offered a $5,000 reward for such things. and then going just bakley to the schools and the hospitals. and so forth, being overwhelmed nobody is disputing that the town of springfield, ohio needs help. but you're not just a bystander. you're the senator from ohio. so instead of saying things that are wrong and actually causing the hospitals, the schools, the government buildings to be evacuated because of bomb threats, because of the cats and dogs thing. why not actually be

constructive and helping to better integrate them into the community? because there are a lot of employers there who say that the haitian workers are helping fill jobs that they need desperately filled first of all, let me just respond to a couple of things that you said, but i want to start with something he said which i think is frankly disgusting and is more appropriate for democratic propagandist than it is for an american journalist. >> there is nothing that i have said that has led to threats against these hospitals, these hospitals the bomb threats and so forth it's disgusting. the violence is disgusting. we condemn it, we condemn all violence under this happened after you today. on the debate stage said dana, matt, and dog, you ask you asked a question, and i ahead and answer it but we have said, is that this time? >> town has suffered terribly under the under the policies of kamala harris. now, you just accused me of inciting violence

against the community when all that i've done is surface the complaints of my constituents, people who are suffering because of kamala harris is policies, are we not allowed to talk about these problems? the bombs, because some psychopaths are threatening violence, we can condemn the violence on the one hand, but also talk about the terrible consequences of kamala harris is open border. on the other hand, now, let me just fact check a couple of other things that you said dana because it's important you said that all of these migrants are in the country legally they are in the country through what's called temporary protective status. that is, when kamala harris waved a magic amnesty wand, taking people and giving them legal status. that is not a, that is not to say that they're here legally. that is a terrible indictment of her amnesty policies that have further open the they're not for, but it's not illegal migration. it might you might not agree with the policy and obviously you don't, which is totally fair and

legitimate. their policy disagreements all the time. but the fact is that it is the law because president biden, the point is vice president harris are but i don't want to get i don't want to frankly go down this conversation about police you you made a point yeah. >> i agree. you don't want to talk about policy, know what i want to i want to talk about instead of about the fact able you were the one who stich president said to talk about you? >> and i talked about it because you were ignoring this community. my constituents talked about my ability to surface there concerns when the american media dana, i've been to springfield probably 100 times in my life. how about grayson's young's jersey dairy? have do heard recently since last fall, have a bit of the last four days? no.

>> no, we're talking about last four days, but i've gotten calls from the fuels dana, and they're telling me this stuff is happening dana would you like to ask me questions and then let me answer them or would you like to debate me on these topics? >> i noticed that when you had kamala harris and tim walz, you gave them multiple choice answers to the questions that you asked and you allow them to answer the questions i'm happy to hear to be here to talk about policy. but if you're going to interrupt me every single we'll time that i open my mouth, then why am i even doing this? so please ask a question and i'd ask you to be polite enough to ask the answer is yes, i am. and i think that if kamala harris and tim walz were making unsubstantiated claims but the head racist undertones about people eating dogs and cats. i would and they didn't answer the questions about that than i would have similar interactions with them as you know, i i am very grateful that you come on the

show as i am for other republicans. but this is something that you're hearing from constituents. i did a lot of reporting. i've talked to people in ohio over the weekend and they're really worried about these claims, the policies, yes, i am i am agreeing with you that what i heard is that there is concern that these but migrants there's a lot of them and the integration isn't being done fast enough and well enough. and that's a totally legitimate conversation. but there are other conversations that are happening like aid and clark, who is the an 11-year-old boy who was killed in springfield last year. it was a car accident involving haitian immigrant you said that he was murdered. his father said that's not true. it was an accident. here's what he said to you moreno, chip roy, j.d. >> vance, and donald trump van spoken my son's name and use his death. for political gain

this needs to stop. now, they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention aid and clark from springfield, ohio i will listen to them one more time to hear their apologies center. >> he's asking for you to apologize. will you dana first of all, my heart goes out to the clark family and i don't you bring their son's name up because they've clearly expressed a preference for politicians to not bring their son's name up. >> i wish them all the best i can't believe what kind of a tragedy they've experienced, but i'm still going to keep on talking about what the migrants have done to spring field, ohio and what kamala harris is open border has done to springfield, ohio. and dana, i think this illustrates the entire contrast between how we're trying to go about this debate and how a lot of the democrats are trying to go about this debate. they're talking about 12 proud boys marching in springfield, ohio. they're talking about the frankly fake debunk kings of a

lot of these stories that are out there i'm talking to my constituents and i'm hearing terrible things about what's going on in springfield and kamala harris's open border policies have caused these problems. the hospitals are overwhelmed. dana, the schools are overwhelmed. the local services are completely overwhelmed. you have people who can't afford housing, homelessness has gone up murders are up by 81% because of what kamala harris has allowed to happen to the small community. i'm going to keep on talking about that now, of course, we can criticize violence. we can also still talk about the problems that are happening in springfield and we should be able to do both those things simultaneously. dana just once and for all you. >> again, started this in part by saying that at which donald trump repeated on the debate stage that and he didn't say anything about the policies that you're talking about. he just said it, patients are eating dogs and cats.

>> can you affirmatively say now that that is a rumor that has no base? >> basis with evidence the evidence is the firsthand account of my constituents who are telling me that this happened. >> and by the way, i've been trying to talk about the problems in springfield for months and the american media ignored it. there was a congressional hearing just last week of angel moms who lost plus children because kamala harris let criminal migrants into this country who then murder their children. the american media totally ignored this stuff until donald trump and i start talking about cat memes if i have to. >> i mean, create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people then that's what i'm going to do, dana, because you guys are completely letting kamala harris coast. >> you had one interview with her. you talk about pushing back against me, dana, you didn't push back against the fact that she cast the deciding

vote on the inflation reduction act, which is why a lot of americans can afford food and housing. he just said that policy see that you're creating the stores that data you just said that this is a story that you've created. so they're eating dog, we're not, we are creating, we are dana, it comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents. i say that we're creating a story, meaning we're creating the american media focusing on it. i didn't create 20,000 illegal migrants coming into springfield thanks to kamala harris is policies her policies did that, but yes, we created the actual focus that allows the american media to talk about this story and the suffering caused by kamala harris, his policies. >> do you do you condemn the proud boys, even if it's just 12, even if pushes one marching in springfield all white supremacists. i'm

obviously not, i'm married to a non-white person. i don't like these people, but i think that we have to keep our focus not on 12 marchers going down the street, but on the fact that thousands of residents have had their lives destroyed by kamala harris is policy. i find this very unusual, dana, that the american media is more interested in a bunch of losers marching down the street, then they are in the fact that kamala harris has made these people's lives wars. i'm not talking about 12 proud boys. i'm talking about 40,000 residents, 40,000 constituents of mine, many of whom can afford housing and food because of kamala harris is open border that is what i want to focus the media's attention on. we're going to keep on doing it because i think the american people deserve a government that puts their interests first, kind of make just one more final point of this, dana. you've heard a lot of the media focusing on every possible distraction from the story in springfield, you've heard them focus on these proud

boys marched as you've heard, just in this interview, dana, the suggestion that because some psychopath is calling it a bomb threat, somehow we have to then ignore 40,000 springfield, not what having their lives worsened by calm kamala harris, his policies what is the implication data? i actually love to have this conversation right now live on air, right? what is the implication when you say you calling out these problems has caused a bomb threat, you accused me of causing a bomb threat, doesn't that mean you should shut up about the resonance of springfield, don't you? realize you're engaged in basic propaganda, high silence, the concerns of american citizen. i would i was quoting the actual mehr of springfield, ohio begging after he said after the bomb threats begging federal officials view to please stop putting negative attention on his city. >> and i'm not talking about the policies. i'm not talking about the very real challenges

that springfield has. i'm talking about baseless rumors about haitians eating dogs and cats and that after that was said on a debate stage, that is when these bomb threats started, and that is affect senator, i just want to move on to other quick issues. separate from this that i want to talk to you about, dan, it. >> again, please go ahead. >> i think this is actually i think this is an important conversation the springfield mayor, he's dealing with a lot of terrible things. i certainly sympathize with a guy and we're going to try to help him out, but he did not accuse me of inciting a bomb threat here. just didn't. and if we're going to take the first-hand accounts of people who are on the ground in springfield. why don't you bring on some of the people on your program who say that the migrants are eating their pets you're applying a double standard here. you're saying if one person accuses j.d. vance, i'm going to take that person's you have somebody who hospital have somebody that you represent it.

if you have another person who's saying they're eating the cats, you're going to completely ignore them, attack them silence them, and harassed them. that double standard is why people don't trust the media and why we're not talking about public policy. 51 days out from presidential election if you have somebody you want to tell us about, who has proof that somebody eight their cat. >> of course we want to hear that. we certainly have had no evidence that that is actually something that happened, and i just want to say i have not thank you of anything. i am quoting the mayor who said, after these bomb threats federal politicians, or negatively spinning our city they need to note they are hurting our city. it was their words that did it okay. that i'm quoting him and it seems to be a pause in effect role roll the tape. you just accused me of inciting a bomb threat.

there's no evidence of this. i condemn violence and threats of violence clade we should be able to do that. and also still talk good about what's going on in springfield. >> i'm glad to hear that you condemn it. that is very important. we had a lot of other issues to get to, but i really hope that you do come back so we can talk about other issues center. thank you so much. >> thanks dana the mayor of springfield, ohio, joins me next to respond to senator vance. >> stay with them years. >> i've been saying publicly what people say and turns out i have enough money. i could just shut up october 5th on cnn. >> why do couples choose asleep number smart bad. >> can it keep me warm when i'm cold weight know i'm always hot. sleep number. does that can i make my son? >> sides softer? >> i make my side firmer? >> number. does that your ideal

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ohio. i want to go live now to springfield and talk to the mayor. rob rue. thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. we have a lot to get to, but i want on a know, first of all, about what's going on at this time your schools, city, buildings have been facing threats. the local college had to cancel events today the immigrant community has been facing a lot of attacks. i want to just ask about how things are going broadly in springfield, right now on. >> it's it's just obviously very difficult time. you know, we have been shine under a spotlight that is so bright that it's, it's hard to see some of the things that we actually need to be focusing on and that's been difficult for sure. but we're concerned about this security in our community and we're focused on that right now and when you say you're concerned about the security in your community and

focus on that. >> can you elaborate about what security threats i mean, we know about some of the bomb threats at schools, hospitals colleges. is there anything else that you want to share we've had three consecutive days of threats, not to myself personally. >> in our family, but as well as the other commissioners and some other officials so it's like you said, definitely a high stress time that is just really difficult to handle right now. >> i'm sure what are the nature of the threats? extremely negative and no harmful and just extremely disruptive and does it is it specific to the allegations without evidence of eating cats and dogs, is it more broadly about the haitian immigrants? >> can you be a little bit more specific

think just because everything has stirred up so much, people are responding according to their own way. >> they respond. and a lot of it's unhealthy you know, there's there's real concerns with what we're dealing with here prior to this whole spotlight that's happened and we won't deny that there has been an infrastructure string. there has been, you know, it's just been overwhelming at times, but we're trying as a community to lead while through this and put her arms around the situation but what has happened in the last three days has caused a more significant strain on our community i want you to listen again to part of what j.d. vance told me this morning my constituents have brought approximately a dozen separate concerns to me, ten of them are verifiable and confirmable, and a couple of them, i talk about because my constituents are telling me firsthand that they're seeing these things mayor rue, they're

your constituents as well, and you live in the community do you have any confirmed reports of haitian migrants eating dogs and cats in springfield? >> we do not. and i think you highlighted earlier on one of your interviews that the sheriff's department did go back through the last 11 months and we just have no verifiable claim that this is actually happening. had a complaint was looked into and then we couldn't get i guess it couldn't call back, reach the person that made the complaint it would it would be helpful. we are boots on the ground. we are here with our constituents, the governor of the state of ohio, mike dewine recognizes and trust the local officials to share the proper information and believes us. it would be helpful for those that are our spinning springfield into this swirl to understand and that you can trust us. we are telling the truth to our community. we are not ignoring the strain that the immigration has put in our community, but

we are here to try to put our arms around it into work as peaceably as possible to have our community secure and safe and a thriving and moving forward just like we have been over the last decade, 8,000 new jobs have come to our community over the last ten years. we are community that comes together and works together. and these are the things that we want to talk about springfield to the nation, not the things that we have to keep telling press like, hey, your pets are safe and springfield, ohio, they absolutely are. it's just it's crazy act to keep saying that you said, people keeps spinning things that aren't true. it's crazy. you have to keep saying that and you said that mike dewine, the governor, has been very supportive not only of this program and of the haitians in your community because you said that a big part of the reason they are there is because there are jobs that employers need to fill and they are filling those jobs. you didn't mention senator vance, who of course, currently represents your community and your broader state in the

united states senate. have you heard from him directly not heard from him directly. >> i believe somebody within his office has reached out to the city more than once so i've not had a personal conversation with either of the candidates are nantes and that's fine. >> what we do need is we need peace and rest and our community, we need to be able to focus on the concerns that we've had here and also how we are moving forward as well. >> when you said something about governor mike dewine, has been supportive of the program, governor mike dewine has been supportive above what we're going through and as helped us with resources of coordinated efforts to help secure our community as any governor in any state should be looking after the cities and their communities if there is help needed and the local municipalities when you were speaking to a local affiliate there this week, you said all these federal politicians that have negatively spun our city,

they need to know they're hurting our city. >> and it was their word that did it. you heard me mentioned that two j.d. vance and he denied responsibility for having anything to do with the threats that you just talked about that have been going on over the last three days. what's your response? >> so i said this earlier in another interview. >> it would be helpful if they understood the weight of their words and how they could harm a community like ours again, i said the light has been shine so brightly that is cost. >> people do not even see clearly. it's too bright and so it'd be helpful to bring peace with the words that you're saying about communities like ours, instead of unrest we're listing turkey instituions were not ignoring the problems and we just appreciate more positive light for our community. again, we're not ignoring the concerns. we just don't need such they bright, bright light shine. did our community that's causing unrest and the lack of peace

okay. >> and i also just want to say that the governor was on another program today and governor dewine and he said that people need to stop talking about eating dogs the cat's i'm guessing based on what you just said, you agree with that >> i mean, it's it's, it's a rumor that has been debunked. it is even the person that posted the initial catch situation has said that it was not true. it was not very poor taste and judgment to do it, but they admitted it. and i appreciate that mayor rue. >> thank you so much for coming on. i can't even imagine how difficult it is your amera of a very small town and you have a lot on your plate, the way you described that bright spotlight is really telling. >> thanks for coming on. appreciate it thanks for your time. and it is the key state for both campaigns and the race

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was bonkers. >> listen. the governor of ohio the mayor of that town in ohio, has said this is all made up. these are all lies. there's no truth to it. and the united states senator from ohio just came on your show and blamed his own constituents for his own lives so pathetic. but the thing is, it is dangerous. there is a causal connection between the bs that j.d vance and donald trump spews and the safety and security of the american people when they go out and they lie about this stuff, they put their fellow americans at risk j.d. vance should be ashamed of himself he knows better. i mean, this guy, whether he's on your show or his in some sports bar where i

mean, by the way, a total picked me in that sports bar the other day. he just doesn't understand the power of his words, the power of his lies and those lies are putting the people at risk. this is dangerous stuff. i know it started because they wanted to just distract the american people from their failed policies and they're chaos. but this has now taken on a life of its own because of what they incited and people's lives are at risk because of j.d. vance, this guy should know better shameful what he did. >> governor, i want to turn to what's happening in your state. want you to listen to what a voter who was undecided said to cnn after the debate there. and this voter is in erie, pennsylvania my life was better when trump was in office, the economy was higher, inflation was lower. things were better overall and now with kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic and she's saying she

can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but i just don't know if i can afford to take that risk. >> what do you say to that voter on others like her in pennsylvania who just felt like they had more money in their pocket. when donald trump was president look, i've talked to folks in area and all across pennsylvania every day who face challenges and feel as though they're struggling economically. >> it's by the way, dana, one of the reasons why we've cut taxes four times in pennsylvania for seniors, for families who are trying to afford childcare for small businesses. we understand the importance of cutting costs and putting money back in pennsylvania and pockets and i think if you listen to what the vice president laid out in her debate and in her commentary since and prior to that, she's got an economic plan to put money back in people's pockets as well. she's talking i came about cutting the cost of childcare. she's talking about cutting taxes for small businesses. she's talking about

opening up the doors of opportunity to more pennsylvanians, more americans by eliminating the college degree requirement that opens up the doors for more jobs to more people. by the way, dana, that was the first executive order i signed as governor here in pennsylvania. and it's worked it's created more opportunities for pennsylvania. and so i think the vice president clearly understands the need to put money back in people's pockets, the need to cut costs the economic anxieties people are facing. and she put forth plans to do that. donald trump has put forth no plans to actually do that except cutting taxes for people who are at the very top of our income brackets. and actually increasing the burden through his tariff policies on the middleclass. so i don't blame my constituent in erie county for raising those issues. but i think if you examine the policies and plans put forth by the vice president, i think they're right on point. >> you are leading a rally for vice president harris this morning on reproductive right?

she didn't give a direct answer during the debate on whether she supports any restrictions on abortion, only saying that she supports roe v wade, which guaranteed the right to an abortion up to fetal viability. but it didn't impose any limits. now, your homestake pennsylvania, of course, as you know, bans abortions after 24 weeks. should kamala harris support any legal limits on abortion? >> well, i think she makes clear she wants to codify roe, which had some boundaries to it i think what's important to remember here is under donald trump, freedom was ripped away from millions of women across this just country. they lost the ability to simply make decisions over their own bodies. and while here in pennsylvania, i'm continuing to defend that right. and protect women across the commonwealth. we are seeing right here pennsylvania the effect of trump's abortion bans. we've seen a significant

increase in the number of women coming from neighboring states, particularly west virginia, where they have of a ban into our clinics in pittsburgh and don't get me wrong. we're happy to provide reproductive health care in all forms of health care for women who come across the governor of west virginia, into pittsburgh and western pennsylvania. but the reality is trump's abortion bans are ccording women across pennsylvania we need to codify roe and that's what kamala harris and i appreciate that you're talking about what donald trump did with roe and what he i'm not really sure entirely what he wants to do now. but the question is what her position is and what it should be and it's deep. the question is, do you believe that it would be better for her or important for her? to have any position that also includes limits on abortion well, i think she'll speak for herself as to what those limits ought

to be. >> but remember codifying roe provides some of those limits something that millions of women and americans, i think had accepted is settled law until trump's supreme court went and ripped away those freedoms from women across this country. and i think what most pennsylvania want clearly and what we've seen at the polling places over and over and over again with the number of candidates who are for obliterating roe as donald trump was, is loss after loss after loss. what we're seeing women want the freedom to be able to make decisions over their own bodies. kamala harris will bring back that freedom and donald trump wants to continue to rip away more of our freedoms. >> do you support the 20 i know it's the law of the land there, but do you support the 24 week limit i support i support pennsylvania law and i'm continuing to protect women's rights here in our commonwealth i want to ask about something that democratic senator chris murphy was saying.

>> he said on cnn over the weekend, he said that a big part of the appeal of maga is that people feel connected to a community and that democrats aren't really giving kind of alternative, listen to a little bit more of what he said but i think sometimes we get lost by thinking that are only job is to try to increase the health of the economy. >> do you feel part of a community something bigger than yourself? and i think we've done a really bad job of delivering that kind of purpose and meaning two people, even as we've done a better job of making sure that people have rising wages do you think he's right respect for senator murphy. i'm not sure. i understand the full context of where he was going with that i can tell you that a travel all across this commonwealth all the time rural, urban, suburban communities? pennsylvania a10s

are a large, diverse, wonderful community, but basically want the same for things, right? no matter where you go, they want goods schools for their kids and grandkids. they want safe communities to live in. they want to make sure that they've got opportunity, particularly economic opportunity in the communities that they love. they shouldn't have to move somewhere else to find that opportunity. they want their rights and their freedoms protected. i think those things bond us in bind us together and those are the things i work on hard every day here in the commonwealth. >> last question, how likely is it at this point? that kamala harris will win pennsylvania every election is closed in pennsylvania 20 2016 was about 44,000 votes. >> 2020 was 80,000 votes. a point or less decided each of those elections, i fully expect this to be a close election. i will tell you, i think the vice president's get some real wind at her back and, you know what i'm taking note of is in

communities that are often ignored and left behind kamala harris. he's showing up just a couple of days ago. she was in johnstown, pennsylvania and then in wilkes-barre a few hours later. these are communities that oftentimes feel ignored by biden national democrats xi showing up and by the way, getting great crowds and i'm feeling real enthusiasm there's something to be said for the person who not only votes for the vice president but is willing to put that sign on their lawn, willing to wear that t-shirt or maybe even that taylor swift french bracelet it sends a message to their friends and neighbors that they're for kamala harris. they like her positions. they think she's the right person to lead us forward. and so i think what i'm seeing more and more of it's not just the folks who are lining up to vote for her, but those who are enthusiastic about her candidacy and communities that oftentimes are not enthusiastic about democratic candidates and encouraging their neighbors to be for them as well. so i'm

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