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as we continue to monitor that i don 360. >> how did this man allegedly get within a few hundred yards of the former president, armed authorities say with a rifle and scope how does that square with the secret service's claim? >> they're providing the highest level of protection also tonight, despite calls from both parties to tamp down the rhetoric, donald trump is amping it up instead. and trump running mate j.d vance defended falsehoods. he spread about haitian immigrants that today brought more threats and school closings to springfield, ohio those are parents waiting for their kids. >> springfield's republican mayor joins us tonight. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin with what we know and don't know right now about the apparent second attempt on trump's life. the man arrested yesterday, ryan ruth, was arraigned today on federal gun charges. authorities today said that ruth did not have the former president in his line of sight. and he was discovered by a secret service agent in the

tree line of the trump golf course near mar-a-lago the agent, as you know, fired at him, ruth, they say fled and was caught a short time later. this is some of the body-camera footage do you understand want to go was? >> ryan still a lot of questions about the suspect and the former president's security, namely how for the second time in as many months, didn't come and get within range of the republican presidential

candidate, especially given president biden's call in the wake of the butler shooting for trump and vice president harris to receive what acting secret service director ronald rowe today called the highest level of protection except as he admitted when asked this protection did not include sweeping the golf course perimeter at all during the 12 hours this man was allegedly there or nearby only agents walking a hole or so ahead of the former president as he played so this wasn't off the record, movement it wasn't a site that was on his scheduled it wasn't part of his scheduled, so there was no posting up of it because he wasn't supposed to have gone there in the first place when i go back to as yesterday was off the record, movement off the record and the president wasn't even really supposed to go. there was not on his official schedule. and so we put together a security plan and that security plan worked lots of coverage tonight with their team of correspondents, law enforcement, and security experts. and because this is taking place in a heated

political climate, not a vacuum will also look closer at that. first though new tonight details on president biden's call to the former president. cnn's kayla tausche at the white house. has that. so what are you learning? >> well, anderson, president biden reached former president trump by phone from the white house earlier this evening after trying to reach him earlier in the day, unsuccessfully, a white house official described the conversation as cordial with trump at one point, thanking biden for the call. now biden has no love lost with trump. they've sparred over politics and policy i see for ages. but at an event today, president biden reiterated that there is no place in this country for political violence. here's what he said there's no, and i mean this in a bottom, those, you know, we many of you do no place in political violence for political violence in america, none, zero, never in america. >> resolve our difference peacefully. the ballot box, not at the end of a gun that phone call, the transpired between the two men today is the second

in two months, of course, they last spoke in july after the first assassination attempt on former president trump has person biden suggested something about the security that should be done well, he suggested that the u.s. >> secret service needs more and better resources, specifically personnel. we know that the secret service for years has been plagued by thin staffing, long hours, and low morale, which is only exacerbated in election years when more candidates and their families need protective detail's, we do know that funding for secrets service has gone up in recent years and it's higher in 2024 than an even was in 2016 and 2020 during those elections. but anderson, this is now a new conversation that is taking place as government funding is set to take center stage in the coming weeks. and we'll see if this becomes part of those negotiations between the white house and capitol hill. >> all right. kayla tausche. thank you. before bringing in our security experts, including former secret service agent jonathan wackrow. here's randi kaye with what we've learned so far about the suspect, both moment by moment and going back years

ryan wesley ruth may have already been lying in wait for donald trump court documents unsealed today included an fbi affidavit indicating ruth cell phone may have been in the vicinity of the bushes for up to 12 hours before he was ultimately spotted by secret service secret service caught a glimpse of the barrel of the suspect's gun and opened fire terms of him being 70, based on his phone records, is there any evidence to show that routh was in this obscenity in the area before sunday. and when you say in the vicinity, does that mean right there that spot in his book? >> excuse or could it have been down the street at a restaurant? >> it was in very close proximity to where he was spotted by the secret service in terms of your first question whether he was there earlier, are investigation is still working to determine that at 1:30 p.m. secret service agents calling shots fired to west palm beach police who will immediately seal off the area. trump international golf club is now on lockdown the alleged

gunman was on the public side of the fence near the six green, the subject who did not have line of sight to the former president, fled the scene. about 25 minutes later, at 1:55 p.m. the martin county sheriff's office receives a bolo a be on the lookout alert, a suspect is heading north on interstate 95. >> a description of the vehicle and a tag number is also provided every available unit, about 30 in all joins the hunt. >> we immediately deployed out to the interstate because information was that the suspect was possibly headed north online 95 minutes later, just after 2:00 p.m. martin county sheriff's units locate the suspect's vehicle body camera video of his arrest. >> the witness from the incident at at trump international i was flown to the scene by the palm beach county sheriff's office and he

was able to make a positive i.d. >> at 2:24 p.m. less than an hour after the incident, the trump campaign sends out a statement saying, trump is safe following gunshots in his vicinity in the bushes at the golf club. authorities recovered in sks style rifle with a scope, two backpacks equipped with ceramic tiles for a makeshift bulletproof vest, and a gopro. do you have any detail on where he might have gotten the gun? >> that's part of the investigation as well. again, that's going to be a little bit challenged until we're able to determine the serial number on that gun. so we're hopeful to be able to do by 10:00 a.m. this morning, ryan ruth was in court in west palm beach, florida, facing charges of possession of a firearm while a convicted felon and possession of a firearm her arm with an obliterated serial number in court, ruth told the judge he had zero funds and was making $3,000 before his arrest. he said he had no assets beyond his two trucks in hawaii, the judge appointed a

public defender since the alleged attempt on trump's life, a complicated picture has emerged of ryan ruth of 58 year-old's small business owner from hawaii cnn has learned that ruth supported trump in 2016, but later dismissed him as a buffoon and a fool. ruth also mentioned trump in his self-published book titled ukraine's unwinnable war ruth traveled to ukraine in 2022 and encouraged others, including afghan fighters, to sign up to fight. he did an interview with afp news agency from kyiv in april that year, putin is a terrorist and he needs to be ended. >> so we need everybody from around the globe to stop what they're doing and come here now, court documents also detail past run-ins with the law, including felony convictions in north carolina in 20 o2 he pleaded guilty to felony possession of a weapon of mass destruction, and carrying a concealed weapon. >> that same year, he barricaded himself inside a business after he was pulled over by police other charges

over the years included possession of stolen goods driving without a registration, and failing to pay his taxes on time. given his history, law enforcement is grateful. they saw him the suspect did leave and get close off and anderson tonight, authorities still are unsure if the suspect acted alone. >> they say all indications are that he did, but they're just not 100% sure yet. they also don't know where he got this weapon or how long he was in the state of florida before this happened, but we did get some new information today. we now know that they interviewed you'd seven civilian witnesses on the scene, and that they've collected dna from the suspect's items that were recovered at the scene that would include those two backpacks, the sks rifle and the gopro and those dna samples have been sent to quantico to be analyzed. so anderson there's going to be it's going to take quite some time to figure all this out for indicated. >> thanks so much joy. one thing i've seen in chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller, former secret service agent jonathan wackrow, for fbi, deputy

director andrew mccabe, and retired fbi supervisory special agent. daniel brunner john first of all, what do you make of what? we've learned today and where things stand i think what we learned today was they're going backwards through all of his things, but there were a couple of interesting points. >> number one as randi reported, there's that 12-hour capture of his cell phone, the wording is interesting in the vicinity of the area. it suggests that's two different things. first thing is he used the cover of darkness the night before to get through the bushes to the fence line do his reconnaissance as to what's the best place to set up and then he lay in wait there. the other alternative is that he set up his gopro. they're set it to a streaming setting and then went back across the street where there's many commercial places in parking lots and just settled into that's an important point. >> i mean, in that area right across the street, there are there's a parking lot,

there's places he could sit in his car if he wanted to or in starbucks or something, lots of like, there's a gas station, there's a burger king, there's a library, there's a school, there's a big empty parking lot. there's this when 11. so within that block on summit boulevard, there there's everything the question is the special agent in charge veltri said it was his phone was detected very close to that tree line where he fired from, but when you're doing tower triangulations for a signal, there's a difference friends of that can vary from a couple of hundred feet to a place it could have been across the street i think what they're going to end up doing that was going backwards through that phone triangulation and say, how many other days was he there? was he building this surveillance? >> jonathan? i mean, in terms of there's questions. well, if this wasn't on the schedule and we heard that from the acting secret service director would he have just been this alleged assassin been this has been the first time he'd done

that. would he have scoped this area out if he was sitting in that parking lot, would he have been enabling see the motorcade of the former president coming to that golf club resort and then having an hour before he got to that spot. >> but let's unpack that a little bit the reference to an otr and off the record movement really is playing to the secret service advantage of surprise, you don't know that a protectee is going to be there, but that's not the case. this with donald trump. you only know that you he is a creature of habit. you know, if he has nothing on his schedule at mar-a-lago, there is a high probability that he's going to play golf. so it doesn't take a sophisticated assassin to understand that behavioral traits. >> he's in town and it's a sunday and he's not doing anything officially. >> you're going to hedge i'm going to head and i'm gonna go to that location because we're else does he go in the area? he really doesn't travel outside of mar-a-lago in his controlled environments. that's where he spends his time. >> and if he was just watching from the outside, he would have seen a motorcade coming in and he still would have had from

the time trump got there to getting to that to that hole on the golf course, there have been more than an hour well over an hour. >> so again, into your commissioner miller's point, i think that as they go through this digital exhaust here and there is just volumes of digital evidence here. we're going to see that this individual was probably hiding in plain sight over at that at starbucks across the street you're going to see a lot of pre-attack surveillance in the 12 hours or so beforehand. but on previous days, and what we haven't heard yet, what other locations was he potentially looking at? was he looking at areas around mar-a-lago as well? again, it's not normal for somebody to do is to wake up and go, well, i'm going to so kill the former president today. there has been a lot that has been manifesting within this individual. there's a lot around the motivation and intent that he had to launch this attack as this investigation, pulls the mosaic of evidence together, we're going to start getting a clearer picture, take a quick break while more with the panel afterwards. take up the

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absorbing junior pro nothing numbs pain more i'm elizabeth wagmeister in los angeles in this is cnn the former president, just moments ago, talked about yesterday, is apparent attempt on his life will bring you that sound in a moment right now, continuing the conversation about what authorities are investigating on the apparent second attempt on donkey trump's life in the last two months back with the panel. andrew, i mean, how is it possible that the suspect would have been in the vicinity for nearly 12 hours without

being spotted by law enforcement, were just talking with jonathan jon about the location that there's restaurants and a parking lot across the way don't know if his vehicle was parked in there when he was shot at by secret service and he ran across the road or if it was just parked on the side of the road, but was parked on the side of the road. you would think that might have drawn some attention? >> yeah. i doubt that he left it on the side of the road. there's not really an easy you're kind of an inconspicuous way to leave that vehicle there certainly for that period of time. so i think it's a fair guess that it was parked somewhere in the locations that jon and jonathan we're referring to the bigger question for me anderson is how is a person secret i.d. for some period of time, maybe that the entire 12 hours, maybe some portion thereof, literally against the fence, probably 20 yards, 25 yards or less from

the tee box, the seventh hole tee box, where the president would be teeing off a fee if he had not been caught is a strange place for the service to be in because two things are true at the same time. one, the plan that they had in place worked the advanced agents saw the gun barrel, they engaged the target with fire and that mitigated the threat they're strategy worked as planned. but the question is, how good is the strategy when it overlooks an assassin lying in wait 25 yards away from where the president is going to be. if you don't see that gun barrel, i think this is really got to provoke a rethinking of these secret service methodologies at least in terms of how they're applying them to this president who we know is the repeated target of of pretty serious threats. >> daniel, i'm wondering what you what you think of that. i mean, how do you if you're if you don't if the roads are

open around this golf course and the sidewalks open around it what would that mean? just shutting down access all around that golf course all the time? >> well, jonathan would know a lot better than i have, but yes, i mean, the areas surrounding the golf course, there's a lot of traffic, a lot of activity, but the fact that that area, according to the da's office regularly people walk up through the shrubs to the fence line to take photographs of the president it's a known vulnerability they knew that i think the secret service the acting director, said it perfectly that they are in a reactive mode. i think the secret service really needs to reassess their how they operate and be more of a proactive and thinking outside the box because clearly something in butler in the butler that mistakes were made mistakes were made here, the secret service agent acted appropriately, taking out the threat. but he'd got into position, was there for 12

hours? i think those those individuals that situation needs to be addressed. i think walking a canine or wrong along the line would have detected the the acting director stated that counter-surveillance units were being operational will kind of surveillance units were operational. why didn't they detect it? so there's a lot of questions in situation. i think the secret service needs to reassess and rethink and think more outside the box john, what about that? >> is, i mean, obviously, look down from liked to play golf and on a different end, he has a lot of golf clubs around the world. >> yeah. listen, i think that absolutely needs to be recalibration of the protective model right now, i think butler prove that. i think you this latest incident prove that you need to deploy the resources appropriately to donald trump. stop thinking about donald trump as a former president but then, and he gets this level of resource this is an individual that is facing threats domestically and from a foreign hostile actors, namely iran,

knowing that we should never have a protectee with that threat environment around him. operating on it they're basically an area where you have these identified vulnerabilities that are not mitigated, you could have there's a lot of things you can do. you can leapfrog agents around the perimeter to ensure that that perimeter is pushed out making sure that no vehicles are stopped, making sure that that fence line is clear. there's a lot of things you could do, but i think that the secret services you just challenge with donald trump trying to fit donald trump into our protective model instead of building a protective model around the uniqueness of this protectee an interim mccabe right now, he's only facing firearms charges. >> i assume they'll obviously be looking for other charges but why hasn't already been charged with attempting to assassinate a former president sure. >> so he had to be charged today, he was taken into custody yesterday. of course,

our constitution requires that when you're taken into custody, your brought before a judge and told the charges against you forthwith. and so that had to happen today. the easiest thing to charge him with right now to get through that court appearance was the felon in possession and of course having possession of a gun with an obliterated serial there's no doubt in my mind they are pursuing attempted assassination charges. and that charge is 18 usc 17, 51. but essentially plea says you can get up to life in prison if you attempt to kill the president of the united states, that looks like what happened here. and to most people they think, well, that's perfectly obvious. but in fact, we don't have perfect evidence in our hands just yet in terms of what we know publicly we know he was there. we know he took steps he had armed himself with a weapon, positioned himself in the right place. but there's not as far as we know laser clear evidence of intent. that's what the investigators are looking for now, particularly in his writings

and his communications notes, he might have taken things like that with the large amount of digital exhaust that he's left behind. i'm pretty confident they'll come across what they need to make that charge. but that's something we'll see over the next few weeks. >> andrew, i know some people watching this is going to say, wait, there's not enough evidence of intent. you've got a rifle. you got to go pro you've got ceramic plates in shield position by golf course where the foreign president is yeah. >> i mean, shockingly anderson, you would think the case would have been in better better position if he had actually attempted to use that weapon. i'm not saying that he should have used it or that i am advocating for that, but you actually have to have solid evidence that there reason he was there, the reason he set up that post, the reason he has those backpacks hanging from the fence and his armed himself with this rifle is specifically to kill the president, not kill someone else who might have been golfing. they're not kill

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democracy and all of this. and it seems that both of these people were radical left's that was the foreign president just moments ago. >> here's his running mate also tonight, also pointing the finger at his political position you know the big difference between conservatives and liberals is that we, no one has tried to kill kamala harris in the last couple of months and two people now have tried to kill donald trump in the last couple of months, i'd say that's pretty strong evidence. >> that the left needs to tone down the rhetoric and needs to cut this crap out. >> well, the day began, as you know, along similar lines in a similar tone and talking off camera to fox digital, the former president directly blamed the president and vice president's rhetoric, quoting him now, their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at. he added and i quote, they use highly inflammatory language he said, i can use it too far better than they can, but i don't a bit later he posted this on social media according again, the rhetoric lives as exemplified by the false

statements made by comrade kamala harris during the rigged and highly partisan abc debate and all the ridiculous lawsuits specifically designed to inflict damage on joe's, then kamala's political opponent me. it's taken politics and our country to a whole new level of hatred, abuse, and distrust because of this, communist left rhetoric, the bullets are flying and will only get worse. joining us now is former harris communications director ashley etienne, republican strategist, brad todd, and cnn senior data reporter harry enten brad obviously, vice president vance went on to say say that he do his best to tone down the rhetoric. do you think is really a genuine promise given what we just heard him say and what the foreign president has certainly said in terms of contributing to very heated rhetoric well, since donald trump came down the elevator in 2016, democrats have constantly said that the constitution will be shredded. the country would end. he was a threat to democracy. hakeem jefferson, favorite expression to him as he's a clear and present danger and a lot of political rhetoric has heated, but i do

think it's time for everybody to agree that the country will still be here in january, no matter who is inaugurated as an next president. and i think that that's missing when democrats talk about donald trump, the country is going to survive criticize him on his policies, his tax code is border policies is tariff plan. but perhaps don't say the country is going to end if he wins. >> read, you know, that the foreign president has repeatedly said, the country will end, that there won't be a country if kamala harris is elected, i mean, that's been a recurring line. there's no question donald trump himself has to tell tone down his rhetoric and i mean, i say that on this network all the time but let's be very clear that, that many democrats have never accepted that he was legitimately elected in 2016. they think that there's no possible way they can allow him to be elected this time i've been in politics long time, anderson, if you turn back the clock to 2011, when congresswoman gabby giffords was shot in tucson, the new york times immediately blamed conservative rhetoric for her being shot. it took them six years to retract that i think

we have a double standard going on here. >> ashley prison biden, vice president harris were quick to condemn any kind of political violence. and as we mentioned, president biden, former president trump, had a cordial phone we call today, but certainly there has been a lot of heated rhetoric on both sides i don't know that i would agree that there's a lot of heated rhetoric on both sides, but let's go back to the point that was just made about that escalator. >> let's go back to that escalator where president trump, former president trump said that mexicans were race a rapist there's one thing about trump and that is he's incredibly consistent if you go all the way back to the 80s when he said the central park five needed to die, they should be hung back to the escalator to today where he's talking about immigrants are poisoning the blood of america. i mean, his, his current vice presidential candidate called him america's hitler for this reason. so here's my real concern is, is that there is an audience that these two

gentlemen are playing to the 48% of the american public that believes that this stuff is okay. you know, i've sort of walked i've i've moved away from republicans or disavowing this language. i mean, i have no faith in them i'm anymore, but i definitely have faith in the american people that's my main concern as a black person, and as a woman who's raising a young black daughter that is my concern is that that 48% is stubbornly thinking that this type of rhetoric and the president's actions are acceptable, that they're okay. and then he sends out a fundraising notice, a letter to day with three words in it, and that's fight, fight, fight to your point, anderson, continuing to amp-up the rhetoric that's really the concern is that there's an audience and they're playing to it. and so if trump wins is going to say more about us than it will about him harry, where does the race stand right now, if this were a popular vote election, i would sit here with you tonight and say that kamala harris was the favorite. >> she has a clear lead in the national polls. it's small, but it's clear when it's pretty consistent especially after the last debate. but the bottom line is, we're talking

about seven battleground states where this election will be decided and the margin there is very, very small. i mean, you could see it up on your screen. it's basically kamala harris by white zero point 0.3 percentage points. that's well within any margin of error. so the bottom line is, i have no idea who's going to win the race at this particular point. it is the closest election of my lifetime, and i believe anyone's lifetime who is on this panel bread do you i mean, you've said don't trump needs to tone down his rhetoric and said democrats as well. do you actually think this is going to happen? i mean, or is this just the way politics is going to be from now on? >> well, i certainly hope not. anderson, you know, and donald trump doesn't get much credit when he does tone down his rhetoric. you know, he also said today that we need, we want people to come to our country. we want them to come legally. it doesn't get much credit for that, and i'm not going to defend donald trump's rhetoric. he certainly is. is that alon? plenty but i think we have to realize that, yes. countries polarized and yes, we

have great disagreements with each other. we ought to try to criticize each other on policy and talk about what might happen if we if its policies were impacted or not enacted or not. and perhaps agree that maybe the other side has people that have good motives and bad ideas. >> certainly, social media has played a role in the rise isn't this rhetoric ashlyn mean has made a lot easier to just throw a molotov cocktail into the conversation. elon musk posted yesterday saying no and no one has even tried to assassinate biden slash kamala with thinking face emoji. he then deleted that post and later claimed it was just a joke. >> yeah. i mean, you're absolutely right. i mean, people are getting all of this stuff in their feeds and there's disinformation and misinformation even perpetuated by a foreign agents. that's really compounding the situation here, but i definitely agree with my republican friends on the panel that we should be attacking each other on policies we need to get back to the time well, we can really fight about the substance of trying to elevate

and put them here. can people in a position where they can thrive? but the problem is donald trump has no policies. he has no substance as he said in the debate, he has concepts. so we can argue about policy when the other side doesn't have any policies and he's totally gutted out the republican party party. i'm not sure what they stand for any longer, but that's really the problem here is that they have no policies, they have no substance, they have no positions. so what they fall back on is again, this, you know, rhetoric that divides america even more so that that frustrates that frustrates the device that we currently have in the nation rather than trying to bring us together and move us to move us forward harry was there any polling a meaningful shift after the last attempt on the former president? >> no, there wasn't remember that was trump versus biden. but the bottom line is you look at the polls before the assassination attempt and then you looked at them afterwards a week later. and what you saw was donald trump was leading that race it's by about three points beforehand. and then he was leading by about three

points afterward. the bottom line is these races have been provided the between biden and trump or harris and trump very, very consistent. i'm not expecting much movement this time around, but of course, anderson, you never know all right. harry enten, ashley etienne, brad, todd. thanks so much. appreciate it coming up. the congressional task force formed in july to examine the first first attempt on the former president's life now has a second investigation will be speaking with the ranking democrat on that commission next everything's stupid. saturday, october 5th on cnn. >> we just want to have enough money for retirement and traveled to visit our grandchildren. >> i understand that's why at fisher investments, we start by getting to know each other. so i can learn about your family lifestyle, goals and needs allowing us to tailor your portfolio. >> what about commission-based products? >> we don't sell those were a fiduciary obligate to act in your best interests. >> so he didn't management >> we have a transparent fee structured, so we do better when you do better at fisher investments were clearly

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of security. join me right now is democratic congressman jason crow. he's the ranking member on the task force formed to investigate the first set assassination attempt on the former president, congressman good to have you on the acting director of the secret service said that president biden wanted the highest levels of protection for former president trump and vice president harris that that level of protection was in place yesterday. if that's true, what does that tell you you, anderson. >> well, it tells us that there are several things potentially going on here. we saw in butler, pennsylvania an incident where there were several security failures or lapses were protocol wilson procedures weren't actually followed. that should have been followed. what we don't know yet is what exactly happened in florida, whether procedures had been followed and this is simply a resourcing problem that there aren't resources, there isn't manpower, there isn't technology that was made available. we don't know that, but i do know is that president biden did order after the july 13th shooting, a increase of

security for vice president harris and president trump to bring it up to a presidential level of security now, but that doesn't mean is that the whole suite of services follow. vice president harris and president trump because there are certain things that just go with the commander in chief as the commander in chief if that other folks don't get, but it does mean that there is that level of security that's provided to those two other individuals do you know i mean, if there was if all the suite of services was provided on something like an unannounced trip to a golf course, would there have been more of a lockdown? >> one of the area early to tell yet anderson whether that's the case or not this particular incident actually is not the mandate of our task yet our task force when we are created in july, was to look at the butler, pennsylvania shooting assassination of two things. looks bad. it is possible that congress i think it is

possible. >> and will it expand. so that is the decision of congress. that's the decision of leadership. so he came jeffries and speaker johnson will have to make that decision if they do make that decision, our task forces, of course, ready to do that. we are staffed, we have great members were working in a bipartisan way. and we would get that job done if congress needs to do it your testimony has requested a briefing with the secret service. >> this week on the new attempt to correct me if i'm wrong, i'm wondering, what are some of the top questions in your mind right now? or areas that you want to note. >> one of the top questions certainly resourcing is a big one. so in butler, there were failures. so processes that were not followed, protocols that were violated. but there is this resource issue. i mean, look, we're in a situation where you have the sitting president who's not a candidate as receiving security you have the vice president who is a candidate, you have a former president who is a candidate. you have to vice presidential candidates. you have all their families and you have all of the former

president's that are getting security so you have this situation where the threat environment is larger than we've seen in our generation. we have lots of people receiving security you have a secret service that in the words of acting director roe has been red line for a year, meaning they're working double-overtime at 9,000 hour weeks deployed three months out of a month the service is at a breaking point. something has to change. the paradigm has to shift, but resources have to be given as well because we can't continue to ask the secret service to do all of this and this particular threat environment congressman, appreciate your time. >> congressman crow. thank you so much. one other note on friday evening and saturday scene and a number of segments, including on this program that briefly showed an image of former president donald trump and laura loomer taken from social media, on reviewed the image. >> turned out had been digitally altered by a third party and should not have been

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president is running mate. now the state's republican governor, mike dewine, now let's go higher. state troopers will be stationed throughout the springfield city school district as a precaution the announcement came after two elementary schools were evacuated, six in all have been threatened in the last week to colleges today, moved to virtual learning. and then there's this newly obtained video of the proud boys, so-called marching through town this weekend as the thuggish group that took part in the storming the u.s. capitol on january 6. again, all of this because of threats linked to false claims about haitian immigrants eating pets fueled by the former president and senator j.d. vance. vance was on cnn this weekend where he defended his claims about springfield the american media totally ignored this stuff until donald trump and i start talking about cat memes. if i have to. >> i create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people. >> then that's what i'm going to do, dana, because you guys are completely letting kamala harris coast. thing. >> you just said that creating

policy >> you just said that you're creating the stores that data you just said that this is a story that you've created so eating dog, we're not, we are creating, we are dana. it comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents. i say that we're creating a story, meaning we're creating the american media focusing on it i'm joined now by the mayor of springfield, ohio says he and other officials have personally received threats may rue. i appreciate your time tonight. i'm sorry. we're talking under these circumstances you heard what vance said this weekend and i'm wondering if you have any thoughts on that and if you could just talk about the threats that you have been experiencing in springfield thank you for having me on anderson. >> we've been having continuous threats is five days now and it's just it's disconcerting that these they keep doubling and tripling down with what we're asking them to

stop talking about spring foot as a good place where a wonderful play for not uploading on each other as far as the community we're doing. we're really for each other in this community we need help not hate. and that's what we need from those that have the national stage. >> you've had elementary schools evacuated because of bomb threats for three days in a row how many how many kids families lives is all of this affecting? >> well, if you look at our entire student body, you're looking around 67,000 students, just it's just really mixed up a lot of the daily lives of our community. >> i want to thank governor mike dewine has really stepped in today and announced new support for our schools. >> he wants kids back into schools where we don't want it to continue to get these threats. there's been 33 threats by email and none of them have they've all been essentially false threats. so the state highway patrol in the

state force there here in town to make sure that our schools are secure and our kids are going back back to school tomorrow. >> do you think that will that do you think kind of tamp down on the threats, the logistical problems caused by by, by all this national attention well it certainly is my hope that we come back to a community of peace. we're not a community without struggle, but i can say that we definitely would like to get to back to focus on what normal life isn't here in town to focus on while they're focusing on our infrastructure, our school system or health care. and bringing the community get together to move forward well that video of the so-called proud boys marching around with some flags. >> how many were there would that cause any issues anytime a group comes into our town with the intent to not bring peace, but disrupt it causes issues i'd say and there was roughly about 20 individuals that came representing the proud boys. and there was also hate flyers

that were distributed by another group so it definitely is is unrest will, when that happens, what are you hearing from constituents, including patient constituents? >> well, as far as the haitian community as a human being, i personally hate to see an entire community just blasted like this and lies continuing to be said about a community. we had no evidence of the lies that have been said about them are the things that have been said about them are just still alive so we'd like that to stop. at least part of the community is here under this current administration's policy. they're here, they're there in our community, so we're trying to embrace the entire community and do the best we can as leaders. >> it's been reported that the former president might be planning a visit to springfield. i'm wondering if you've heard from the campaign at all and what would the impact of something like be right now in your town it would be extremely difficult if

either one of the candidates came to our community right now and i would discourage it if phi at the opportunity, just because this is not a time to campaign our community at the national it's a level and in terms of the difficulties separate from this, the actual difficulties because of the large number of people who are there legally but who have come. what, what are the resources you need to help cope with that? >> i think the number one resource we were asking for funding, i'd say we've pretty much focused in on translation services. are critical care hospital as well as our federally funded hospital. both are in deficit because of the expense of translation services. our school systems need help with translations services this as well as our safety forces to be able to communicate with those that they're trying to serve well so that's kind of where we've been trying to focus on the funding. we've also had realistically, we've had an uptake and reckless operation and again, we had a program in

coordination with the state highway patrol and our local law enforcement to help curb that. the reckless operation we shouldn't help assist and enforcing that. >> those translation services. is that something that would come from the state government, the federal government we've certainly asked for assistance from both but even one that was what i'll be offering help and federal funding assistance that we would accept it i don't know if there's a question. >> you go ahead and sorry. go ahead. >> i'm sorry. but it was the state that stepped up with two-and-a-half million dollars over the next two years, to help fund our health care system. and that will primarily i'm sure i'll be going towards translation services may rue. >> i appreciate your time tonight and again, i'm sorry, we are talking to these circumstance this is what i wish you the best thank you so much for having me on mayor rob rue from springfield. that's it for us. the news continues. i'll be back tomorrow. hope to tune in then the source with kaitlan collins starts now