them from a products all backed by our guarantee accustoming close captioning >> they brought to you by rula. i kind of brands up to 70% off retail at rula law.com at rubella you never faithful sees the deals on top before there shot today down 360. >> how did this man allegedly get within a few hundred the former president, armed authorities say with a rifle and scope. and how does that square with the secret service's claim? they're providing the highest level of protection also tonight, despite calls from both parties to tamp down the rhetoric, donald trump is amping it up instead. and trump running mate j.d. vance defended falsehoods. he spread about haitian immigrants that today brought more threats in school closings to springfield, ohio. those are parents waiting for their kids. springfield's republican mayor joins us tonight. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin with what we know and don't know right now about the apparent second attempt on donald trump's life. the man arrested yesterday, ryan ruth,

was arraigned today on federal gun charges that 30s today said that ruth did not i don't have the former president in his line of sight when he was discovered by a secret service agent in the tree line of the trump golf course near mar-a-lago the agent, as you know, fired at him, ruth, they say fled and was caught a short time later. this is some of the body-camera footage jim steps to you go with ryan

a lot of questions about the suspect and the former president's security, namely how for the second time in as many months did a gunman get within range of the republican presidential candidate, especially given president biden's call in the wake of the butler rooting for trump and vice president harris to receive what acting secret service director ronald rowe today called the highest level of protection, except as he admitted when asked this protection, did not include sweeping the golf course perimeter at all during the 12 hours this man was allegedly there or nearby only agents walking a whole for so ahead of the former president as he played so this wasn't off the record, movement it wasn't a site that was on his scheduled. it wasn't part of his schedule. so there was no posting up of it because he wasn't supposed to have gone there in the first place when i go back to as yesterday was an off the record movement off the record wasn't even really supposed to go. there was not on his official schedule. and so we put together a security plan

and that security plan worked lot to cover. >> tonight with their team of correspondents, and law enforcement and security experts. and because this is taking place in a heated political climate, not a vacuum will also look closer at that. first though new tonight details on president biden's call to the former president. cnn's kayla tausche white house. has that. so what are you learning? >> well, anderson, president biden reached former president trump by phone from the white house earlier this evening after trying to reach him earlier in the day, unsuccessfully, a white house official described the conversation as cordial with trump at one point, thanking biden for the call. now biden has no love lost with trump. they've sparred over politics and policy so you for ages. but at an event today, president biden reiterated that there is no place in this country for political violence. here's what he said there is no, and i mean this in a bottom, those, you know, many of you do no place for political violence for political violence in america, none, zero, never in america. >> resolve our differences

peacefully. the ballot box, not at the end of a gun that phone call, the transpired between the two men today, is the second in two months, of course, they last spoke in july after the first assassination attempt on former president trump has person biden suggested something about the security that should be done well, he suggested that the u.s. >> secret service needs more and better resources, specifically personnel. we know that the secret service for years has been plagued by thin staffing, long hours, and low morale, which is only exacerbated in election years when more candidates and their families need protective detail's, we do know that funding for secrets service has gone up in recent years and it's higher in 2024 than it even was in 2016 and 2020 during those elections. but anderson, this is now a new conversation that is taking place as government funding is set to take center stage in the coming weeks. and we'll see if this becomes part of those negotiations between the white house and capitol hill. >> all right. >> kayla tausche. thanks. before bringing in our security experts, including former

secret service agent jonathan wackrow. here's randi kaye with what we've learned so far about the suspect, both moment by moment and going back years 1:59 a.m. sunday morning, ryan wesley, ruth may have already been lying in wait for donald trump court documents unsealed today included an fbi affidavit indicating ruth cell phone may have been in the vicinity of the bushes for up to 12 hours before he was ultimately spotted by secret service secret service caught a glimpse of the barrel of the suspect's gun based on his phone records, is there any evidence to show that ralph ms in this vicinity in the area before sunday. and when you say in the vicinity, does that mean right there at that spot and wishes are coming down the street at a restaurant. >> it was in very close proximity to where he was spotted by the secret service in terms of your first question, whether he was there earlier, are investigation is still working to determine that at 1:30 p.m. secret service

agents calling shots fired to west palm beach police who immediately seal off the area. trump international golf club is now on lockdown the alleged gunman was on the public side of the fence near the six green, the subject who did not have line of sight to the former president, fled the scene. about 25 minutes later at 1:55 p.m. the martin county sheriff's office receives a bolo a be on the lookout alert, a suspect is heading north on interstate 95. >> a description of the vehicle and a tag number has also provided every available unit, about 30 in all joins the hunt. >> we immediately deployed out to the interstate because information was that the suspect was possibly headed north online 95 minutes later, just after 2:00 p.m. martin county sheriff's unit, it's locate the suspect's vehicle this is body camera video of his arrest. >> the witness from the

incident at at trump international i was flown to the scene by the palm beach county sheriff's office and he was able to make a positive i.d. >> at 2:24 p.m. less than an hour after the incident, the trump campaign sends out a statement saying trump is safe following gunshots in his vicinity. in the bushes at the golf club authorities recovered and sks style rifle with a scope, two backpacks equipped with ceramic tiles for a makeshift bulletproof vest, and a gopro. do you have any detail on where he might have gotten the gun? >> that's part of the investigation as well. again, that's going to be a little bit challenged until we're able to determine the serial number on that gun. so we're hopeful to be able to do by 10:00 a.m. this morning, ryan ruth was in court in west palm beach, florida facing charges of possession of a firearm while a convicted felon and possession of a firearm arm with an obliterated serial number. in court, ruth told the judge he had zero funds and was making

$3,000 before his arrest. he said he had no assets beyond his two trucks in hawaii, the judge appointed a public defender since the alleged attempt on trump's life. a complicated picture has emerged of ryan ruth a 58-year-old small business owner from hawaii. cnn has learned that ruth supported trump in 2016, but later dismissed him as a buffoon and a fool. ruth also mentioned trump in his self-published book titled ukraine's unwinnable war ruth traveled to ukraine in 2022 and encouraged others, including afghan fighters, to sign up to fight. he did an interview with afp news agency from kyiv in april that year. >> putin is a terrorist. and he needs to be ended. so we need everybody from around the globe to stop what they're doing and come here now, court documents also detail past run-ins with the law, including felony convictions in north carolina in 20 you he pleaded guilty to felony possession of a weapon of mass destruction, and

carrying a concealed weapon. >> that same year, he barricaded himself inside a business after he was pulled over by police other charges over the years included possession of stolen goods driving without a registration, and failing to pay his taxes on time. given his history law enforcement is grateful. they saw him the suspect didn't even get close to getting around off and anderson tonight, authorities still are unsure if the suspect acted alone. >> they say all indications are that he did, but they're just not 100% sure yet. they also don't know where he got this weapon or how long he was in the state of florida before this happened, but we did get some new information today. we now know that they interviewed seven civilian witnesses on the scene and that they've collected dna from the suspect's items that were recovered at the scene that would include those two backpacks, the sks rifle and the gopro and those dna samples have been sent to quantico to be analyzed. so anderson it's going to be, it's going to

take quite some time to figure all this out randi kaye, thanks so much joining us and cnn, chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller, former secret service agent jonathan wackrow, for fbi, deputy director andrew mccabe, and retired fbi supervisory special agent, daniel brunner john first of all, what do you make of what we learn today and where things stand? i think what we learned today was they're going backwards through all of his things, but there were a couple of interesting points. number one, as randi reported there's that 12 capture of his cell phone. the wording is interesting in the vicinity of the area. it suggests it's two different things. first thing is he used the cover of darkness the night before to get through the bushes to the fence line do his reconnaissance as to what's the best place to set up and then he lay in wait there. the other alternative is that he set up his gopro. they're set it to a streaming setting and then went back across the street where there's many commercial places

in parking lots. and just settled into that's an important point. >> i mean, in that area right across the street, there are there's a parking lot, there's places he could sit in his car if he wanted to or in starbucks or something, lots of like, there's a gas station, there's a burger king, there's a library, there's a school, there's a big empty parking lot. there's this when 11. so within that block on summit boulevard, there there's everything the question is the special agent in charge veltri said it was his phone was detected very close to that tree line where he fired from, but you know, when you're doing tower triangulations for a signal, there's a difference of that can vary from a couple of hundred feet to a place it it could have been across the street. i think what they're going to end up doing though, is going backwards through that phone triangulation and say, how many other days was he there was he building the surveillance jonathan i mean, in terms of there's questions. well, if this wasn't on the schedule and we heard that from

the acting secret service director would he have just been this alleged assassin been would this have been the first time he'd done that? would he have scoped this area out if he was sitting in that parking lot, would he have been naval to see the motorcade of the former president coming to that golf club resort and then having an hour before he got to that spot. >> but let's unpack that a little bit the reference to an otr and off the record movement really is playing to the secret service advantage of surprise, you don't know that a protectee is going to be there, but that's not the case. it's with donald trump. you only know that you he is a creature of habit. you know, if he has nothing on his schedule at mar-a-lago? there's a high probability that he's going to play golf so it doesn't take a sophisticated assassin to understand that behavioral trey, if he's in town and it's a sunday and he's not doing anything officially. >> you're going to hedge. i'm going to hit edge and i'm going to go to that location because we're else does he go in the area? he really doesn't travel outside of mar-a-lago and his

controlled environments. that's where he spends his time. >> and if he was just watching from the outside, he would have seen a motorcade coming in and he still would have had from the time trump got there to getting to that to that hole on the golf course, there have been more than an hour well over an hour. >> so again, into eu commissioner miller's point, i think that as they go through this digital exhaust here and there is just volumes of digital evidence here. we're going to see that this individual was probably hiding in plain sight over at that at starbucks across the street, you're going to see a lot of pre-attack surveillance in the 12 hours or so beforehand. but on previous days, and what we haven't heard yet, what other locations was he potentially looking at? was he looking at areas around mar-a-lago as well? again, it's not normal for somebody to just to wake up and go, well, i'm going to go kill the former president today. there has been a lot that has been manifesting within this individual. there's a lot around the motivation and intent that he had to launch this attack. as

this investigation pulls the mosaic of evidence together, we're going to start getting a clearer picture. >> take a quick break while more with the panel afterwards take up the question of how the suspect has been charged so far and what the prospects may be. additional charges against him is just gun charges so far later, the former president's decision to take an already tense and traumatic moment for the country and turn it up, including calling his opponent in prison, biden, people want to destroy the country will be right back terribly well for me, i promise pizza every day if you vote for me, i promised me to everyday plus unlimited top banks. >> but does the infrastructure even exist for that ethan? >> excellent question. dana why are we not talking about the fact that my opponent has coatings well, that was a curveball proposal for unlimited recess

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authorities are investigating on the apparent second attempt on on trump's life in the last two months back with the panel, andrew, i mean, how is it possible that the suspect would have been in the vicinity for nearly 12 hours without being spotted by law enforcement, were just talking with jon about the location that there's restaurants and a parking lot across the way i don't know if his vehicle was parked in there when he was shot at by secret service and he ran across the road, or if it was just parked on the side of the road, but was parked on the side of the road. >> you would think that might have drawn some attention? >> yeah i doubt that he left it on the side of the road. there's not really an easy you're kind of an inconspicuous way to leave that vehicle there. certainly for that period of time. so i think it's a fair guess that it was parked somewhere in the locations that jon and jonathan we're referring to the bigger question for me anderson is how is a person secret i.d. for some period of time, maybe that

the entire 12 hours, maybe some portion thereof, literally against the fence, probably 20 yards, 25 yards or less from the tee box, the seventh hole tee box but the president would be teeing off a fee if he would had not been caught is a strange place for the service to be in because two things are true at the same time. one, the plan that they had in place worked the advanced agents saw the gun barrel, they engaged the target with fire, and that mitigated the threat so they're strategy worked as planned. but the question is, how good is the strategy when it overlooks an assassin lying in wait, 25 yards away from where the president is going to be. if you don't see that gun barrel, i think this is really got to provoke a rethinking of these secret service methodologies at least in terms of how they're applying them to this president who we know is the repeated

target of pretty serious threats. >> daniel, i'm wondering what you what you think of that. i mean, how do you i mean, if you don't if the roads are open around this golf course and the sidewalks are open around it would that mean just shutting down access all golf course all the time? >> well, jonathan would know a lot better than i have, but yes, i mean, the areas surrounding the golf course there's a lot of traffic, a lot of activity, but the fact that that area, according to the da's office regularly people walk up through the shrubs to the fence line to take photographs of the president. it's a known vulnerability they knew that i think the secret service the acting director, said it perfectly that they are in a reactive mode. i think the secret service really needs to reassess their how they operate and be more of an a proactive and thinking outside the box because clearly something in butler in the butler mistakes were made mistakes were made

here. the secret service agent acted appropriately taking out the threat. but he got into position, was there for 12 hours. i think those those individuals that situation needs to be addressed. i think walking a canine all wrong along the line would have detected the acting director stated that counter-surveillanc e units, were being operational will kind of surveillance units were operational why didn't they detect it? >> so there's a lot of questions in situation and i think the secret service needs to reassess and rethink and think more outside the box john, what about that is i mean, obviously, look down from leg to play golf and a lot of different end. he has a lot of golf clubs are around the world yeah. >> listen, i think that they're absolutely needs to be recalibration of the protective model right now, i think butler prove that. i think this latest incident prove that you need to deploy the resources appropriately to donald trump stop thinking about donald trump as a former president and he gets this level of resource.

this is an individual that is facing threats domestically and from a foreign hostile actors, namely around knowing that we should never have a protectee with that threat environment around him. operating on it. basically an area where you have these identified vulnerabilities that are not mitigated, you could have there's a lot of things you can do. you can leapfrog agents around the perimeter to ensure that that perimeter is pushed out making sure that no vehicles are stopped, making sure that that fence line is clear. there's a lot of things you could do, but i think that the secret service is just challenge with donald trump trying to fit donald trump into our protective model instead of building a protective model around the uniqueness of this protectee an interim mccabe, right now, he's only we facing firearms charges i assume they'll obviously be looking for other charges. >> but why hasn't already been

charged with attempting to assassinate a former president? >> sure. so he had to be charged today. he was taken into custody yesterday. of course, our constitution requires that when you're taken into custody, your brought before a judge and told the charges against you forthwith. and so that had to happen today. the easiest thing to charge him with right now to get through that court appearance was the felon in possession? and of course having possession of a gun with an obliterated serial there's no doubt in my mind they are pursuing attempted assassination charges. and that charges 18 usc 17, 51. it essentially says you can get up to life in prison if you attempt to kill the president of the united states that looks like what happened here. and to most people they think, well, that's perfectly obvious. but in fact, we don't have perfect evidence in our hands just yet in terms of what we know publicly, we know he was there. we know he took steps. he had armed himself with a weapon, positioned himself in the right place. but there's not as far

as we know no laser clear evidence of intent. that's what the investigators are looking for now, particularly in his writings and his communications, notes, he might have taken things like that with the large amount of digital exhaust that he's left behind. i'm pretty confident they'll come across what they need to make that charge. but that's something we'll so you over the next few weeks, i know some people watching this is going to say, wait, there's not enough evidence of intent. you've got a rifle. you gotta go pro you've got ceramic plates in a shield position by golf course where the foreign president is yeah i mean shockingly, anderson, you would think the case would have been in better better position if he had actually attempted to use that weapon. >> i'm not saying that he should have used it or that i am advocating for that, but you actually have to have solid evidence that the reason isn't he was there, the reason he said that post the reason he has those backpacks hanging

from the fence and his armed himself with this rifle is specifically to kill the president, not kill someone else who might have been golfing. they're not kill his ex-girlfriend who we heard likes to go there on sundays, you know, anything like that? so it's it's very specific evidence they're looking for now. alright. andrew mccabe, john miller, jonathan wackrow, dan bruner. thank you. appreciate it. how the former president and his running mate both just moments ago have been doing the opposite of dialing down the tension in the wake of all of this will be right back everything is right hulu max bundle leader is that's the clean up and restoration. how do you make like it never even happened? >> happened brandi

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in under two months. what do you make of that well, as lot of rhetoric, going right, a lot of people think that the democrats, when they talk about threat to democracy and all of this. >> and it seems that both of these people were radical left that was the foreign president just moments ago. >> here's his running mate also tonight, also pointing the finger at his political position you know, the big difference between conservatives and liberals is that we, no one has tried to kill kamala harris in the last couple of months and two people now have tried to kill donald trump in the last couple of months, i'd say that's pretty strong evidence. >> that the left needs to tone down the rhetoric and needs to cut this crap out. >> well, the day began, as you know, along similar lines in a similar tone and talking off camera to fox digital, the former president directly blame the president and vice president's rhetoric, quoting him now, their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at. he added and i quote, they use highly inflammatory language he

said, i can use it too far better than they can, but i don't a bit later he posted this on social media according again, the rhetoric lives as exemplified by the false statements made by comrade kamala harris during the rigged and highly partisan abc debate and all the ridiculous lawsuits specifically designed to inflict damage on joe's, then kamala's political opponent me, has taken politics and our country to a whole new level of hatred abuse, and distrust because of this, communist left rhetoric the bullets are flying and will only get worse. joining us now is former harris communications director ashley etienne, republican strategist, brad todd, and cnn senior data reporter harry enten brad obviously, vice president vance went on to say a that he do his best to tone down the rhetoric do you think is really a genuine promise given what we just heard him say and what the foreign president has certainly said in terms of contributing to very heated rhetoric well, since donald trump came down the elevator in 2016, democrats have constantly said that the constitution will be stranded

at the country would end. he was a threat to democracy. hakeem jefferson, favorite expression to him as he's a clear and present danger. and a lot of political rhetoric is heated, but i do think it's time for everybody the agree that the country will still be here in january no matter who is inaugurated as an ex president. and i think that that's missing when democrats talk about donald trump, the country is criticize him on his policies, his tax cut is border policies, his tariff plan. but perhaps don't say the country is going to end if he wins. >> read, you know, that the foreign president as repeatedly said the country will end, that there won't be a country if kamala harris is elected, i mean, that's been a recurring line of his. there's no question donald trump himself has to tone down his rhetoric and i mean, i say that on this network all the time. but let's be very clear that, that many democrats have never accepted that he was legitimately elected in 2016 team they think that there's no possible way they can allow him to be elected this time i've been in politics long time, anderson. and if you turn back the clock to 2011, when

congresswoman gabby giffords was shot in tucson, the new york times immediately blamed conservative rhetoric for her being shot. it took them six years to retract that. so i think we have a double standard going on here actually, prison biden, vice president harris were quick to condemn any kind of political violence. >> and as we mentioned, president biden, former president trump, had a cordial phone call today, but certainly there has been a lot of heated rhetoric on both sides. >> i don't know that i would agree that there's a lot of heated rhetoric on both sides, but let's go back to the point that was just made about that escalator. let's go back to that escalator where president trump, former president trump said that mexicans were race a rapist. you know, there's one thing about trump and that is he's incredibly consistent if you go all the way back to the 80s when he said the central park, five needed to die, they should be hung back to the escalator to today where he's talking about immigrants are poisoning the blood of america. i mean, his his current vice

presidential candidate called him america's hitler for this reason so here's my a real concern is, is that there is an audience that these two gentlemen are playing to the 48% of the american public that believes that this stuff is okay. i've walked, i've i've moved away from republicans are disavowing this language. i mean, i have no faith in them anymore, but i definitely have faith in the american people. that's my main concern as a black person. and as a woman who's raising a young black daughter, that is my concern is that that 48% is stubbornly thinking that this type of rhetoric and the president's actions are acceptable, that they're okay. and then he sends out a fundraising notice, a letter today with three words in it, and that's fight, fight, fight to your point, anderson, continuing to amp-up the rhetoric that's really the concern is that there's an audience and they're playing to it. and so if trump wins is going to say more about us than it will about him harry, where does the race stand right now, if this were a popular vote election, i would sit here with you tonight and say that kamala

harris was the favorite. >> she has a clear lead in the national polls. it's small, but it's clear when it's pretty consistent. especially after this last debate. but the bottom line is, we're talking about seven battleground states where this election will be decided. and the margin there is very, very small. i mean, you could see it up on your screen. it's basically kamala harris by what, 0.3 percentage points that's well within any margin of error. so the bottom line is, i have no idea who's going to win the race at this particular point. it is the closest election of my lifetime, and i believe anyone's lifetime who's on this panel bread i mean, do you i mean, you've said don't trump needs to tone down his rhetoric and said democrats as well. >> do you actually think? this is going to happen? i mean, or is this just the way politics is going to be from now on well, i certainly hope not. >> anderson and donald trump doesn't get much credit when he does tone down his rhetoric. you know, he also said today that when we want people to come to our country, we want them to come legally, doesn't get much credit for that and

i'm not going to defend donald trump's right frederick, he certainly is. is that elon plenty but i think we have to realize that, yes, our country is polarized and yes, we have great disagreements with each other we ought to try to criticize each other on policy and talk about what might happen if we, if its policies were impacted or not enacted or not and perhaps agree that maybe the other side has people that have have good motives and bad ideas. >> certainly, social media has played a role in the rise in this rhetoric. ashlyn mean has made it a lot easier to just throw a molotov cocktail into a conversation. elon musk posted yesterday saying no and no one is even trying to assassinate biden's slash kamala with a thinking face his emoji. he then deleted that post and later claimed it was just a joke yeah. >> i mean, you're absolutely right. i mean, people are getting all of this stuff in their feeds and there's disinformation and misinformation even perpetuated by foreign agents. it's really compounding the situation here, but i definitely agree with my

republican friend on the panel that we should be attacking each other on policies we need to get back to the time when we can really fight about the substance of trying to elevate and put the american people in a position where they can thrive. but the problem is donald trump has no policies. he has no substance as he said in the debate, he has concepts. so we can argue about policy when the the other side doesn't have any policies and he's totally gutted out the republican party. i'm not sure what they stand for any longer, but that's really the problem here is that they have no policies, they have no substance, they have no positions. so what they fall back on is again this, you know, rhetoric that divides america even more so that, that frustrates that frustrates the device that we currently have in the nation rather than trying to bring us together and move us to move us forward. >> harry was there any polling a meaningful shift after the last attempt on the former president? no, there wasn't remember that was trump versus biden. but the bottom line is you look at the polls before

the assassination and then you looked at them afterwards a week later on what you saw was donald trump was leading that race by about three points beforehand. and then he was leading by about three points after what the bottom line is, these races have been provided between biden and trump or harris and trump very, very consistent. i'm not expecting much movement this time around, but of course, anderson, you never know all right. harry enten, ashley etienne, bread todd, thanks so much. appreciate it coming up. the congressional task force formed in july to examine the first attempt on the former president's life now has a second investigation will be speaking with the ranking democrat on that commission next culture over the edge. >> people were watching and then our world change he hadn't an explosive reverberation tv on the edge premieres sunday at nine on cnn some days you can feel like a spectator in your own life with chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. botox prevents headaches and

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isn't technology that was made available. we don't know that. but i do know is that president biden did order after the july 13 shooting a increase of security for vice president harris and president trump to bring it up to a presidential level of security. now what that doesn't mean is that the whole suite of services follow. vice president harris and president trump because there are certain things that just go with the commander in chief as the commander in chief, that other folks don't we'll get but it does mean that there is that level of security that's provided to those two other individuals do you know i mean, if there was if all the that suite of services was provided on something like an unannounced trip to a golf course, would there have been more of a lockdown of the area? it's too early to tell yet anderson whether that's the case or not. this particular incident actually is not the mandate of our task force yet our task force when we are

created in july, was to look at the butler, pennsylvania shooting, assassination of two, think it'll expand. it is possible the congress i think it is possible it will expand. so that is the decision of congress that that's the decision of leadership. so he came jeffries and speaker johnson will have to make that decision. if they do make that decision, our task forces, of course, ready to do that. we are staffed, we have great members were working in a bipartisan way and we it would get that job done if congress needs is to do it. >> you're testimony has requested a briefing with the secret service this week on the new attempt to correct me if i'm wrong, i'm wondering what are some of the top questions in your mind right now? or areas that you want to note, one of the top questions certainly resourcing is a big one. so in butler, there were failures. so processes that were not followed, protocols that were violated. but there is this resource issue. i mean, look, we're in a situation where you have the sitting president who's not a candidate as receiving security you have the vice president who

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threats to school kids in springfield, ohio today following baseless claims about haitian immigrants perpetuated by the former president is running mate. >> now the state's republican governor, mike dewine announced ohio state troopers will be stationed throughout the springfield city school district as a precaution, the announcement came after two elementary schools were evacuated, six and all have been threatened in the last week two colleges today moved to virtual learning, and then there's this newly obtained video of the proud boys, so-called marching through town this weekend. as the thuggish group that took part of the storming the u.s. capitol in january 6. again, all of this because of threats linked to false claims about haitian immigrants eating pets fueled by the former president and senator j.d. vance vance was on cnn this weekend where he defended his claims about springfield the american media totally ignored this stuff until donald trump and i start talking about cat memes. >> if i have to. >> i mean, create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people.

>> then that's what i'm going to do, dana, because you guys are completely letting kamala harris coast. >> you just said that you're creating policy >> you just said that you're creating the stores that data you just said that this is a story that you've created. so that eating dog we are not, we are creating, we are dana. it comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents. i say that we're creating a story meaning we're creating the american media focusing on it i'm joined now by the mayor of springfield, ohio says he and other officials have personally received threats meru i appreciate your time tonight. >> i'm sorry. we're talking under these circumstances you. heard jake, what vance said this weekend. i'm wondering if you have any thoughts on that and if you could just talk about the threats that you have been experiencing in springfield thank you for having me on anderson. >> we've been having

continuous threats is five days now and it's just it's disconcerting that these they keep doubling and tripling down with what we're asking them to stop talking about springfield is a good place where a wonderful play for not uploading on each other as far as a community were doing we're really for each other in this community. we need help, not hate. and that's what we need from those that have the national stage. >> so you've had elementary schools evacuated because of bomb threats for three days in a row how many kids i mean, how many kids, families, lives is all of this effect? >> well, if you look at our entire student body, you're looking around 67,000 students. and so just it's just really mixed up a lot of the daily lives of our community. >> now i want to thank governor mike dewine. >> he's really stepped in today, announced new support for school as he wants kids back into schools where we don't want it to we continue to get these threats. there's been 33 threats via email and

none of them have they've all been essentially false threats. so the state highway patrol in the state force are here in town to make sure that our schools are secure and our kids are going back to school tomorrow. >> do you think that will that do you think kind of tamped down on the threats, the logistical problems caused by by by all of this national attention well it certainly is my hope that we come back to a community of peace. we're not a community without struggle, but i can say that we definitely would like to get to back to focus on what normal life isn't here in town to focus on while they're focusing on our infrastructure, our school system or health care, and bringing the community get together to move forward the week but video of the so-called proud boys marching around with some flags. >> how many were there would did that cause any issues? >> anytime a group comes into our town with the intent to not bring peace but disrupt. it

causes issues i'd say there's roughly about 20 individuals that came representing the proud boys. and there was also hate flyers that were distributed by another group so it definitely is is unrest will when that happens, what are you hearing from constituents including patient constituents well, as far as the haitian community as a human being, i personally hate to see an entire community just blasted like this and, and, lies continue you need to be said about a community. >> we had no evidence of that lies that have been said about them are the things that have been said about them are just still allies. so we'd like that to stop so at least part of the community is here under this current administration's policy. they're here in our community, so we're trying to embrace the entire community into this the best we can as leaders, it's been reported that the foreign president might be planning a visit to springfield. i'm wondering if you've heard from the campaign at all and what would the

impact of something like be right now in your town? >> it would be extremely difficult if either one of the candidates came to our community right now and i would discourage it if the, if i had the opportunity just because this is not a time to campaign or community at the national level. >> and in terms of the difficulties separate from this, the actual difficulties because of the large number of people who are there legally but who have come. what what are the resources you need to help cope with that? >> i think the number one resource we were asking for funding, i'd say we've pretty much focused in on translation services. are critical care hospital as well as our federally funded hospital. both are in deficit because of the expense of translation services. our school systems need help with translation services as well. those are safety forces to be able to communicate with those that they're trying to serve well. so that's kind of where we've

been trying to focus on the funding. we've also had realistically, we've had an uptake and reckless operation. and again, we had a program in coordination with the state highway patrol and our local law enforcement to help curb that. the reckless operation they help assist and enforcing that. >> those translation services. is that something that would come from the state government, the federal government certainly asked for assistance from both. but even one that was what i'll be offering help and federal funding assistance that we would accept it i don't know if there's a question. >> you yeah. go ahead. sorry. good. >> not sorry. but it was the state that stepped up with two-and-a-half million dollars over the next two years to help fund our health care system. and that will primarily i'm sure i'll be going towards translation services but mayor rue, i appreciate your time tonight. and again, i'm sorry, we're talking to these circumstances, but i wish you the best thank you so much for having me on mayor rob rue from

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