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victory in november vice president kamala harris speaking this hour in pennsylvania, while former president donald trump heads to michigan just two days after an apparent assassination attempt. and there's fallout from allies about springfield, ohio. now the mayor says he and his family are getting death threats after the baseless accusations against the city's migrant community. we're going to speak to him, live about those threats as we follow these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central here in just about 30 minutes, sean diddy combs is set to be in court and could find out whether he is forced to stay in jail while heat while the stunning new criminal case against justin plays out. >> this morning, new york prosecutors laid out a sweeping indictment against the celebrity rap mogul accusing him of racketeering sex

trafficking and other crimes dating back decades prosecutors say combs used his entire organisation to force women to perform sex acts with prostitutes combs allegedly planned and controlled the text performances, which he called free gauff's and he often electronically recorded them the freak offs, sometimes lasted days at a time, involve multiple commercial sex workers and often involve a variety of narcotics to just ketamine, ecstasy, and ghb, which combs distributed to the victims to keep them obedient and compliant. >> authorities showed some of the items that they say were seized from combs's properties, including three ar 15s, one with its serial number obscured. cnn correspondent kara scannell is outside the federal courthouse in new york. kara, what do we expecting to happen during this appearance well brianna we're expecting

this to take place just a short time from now. >> sean p. diddy combs will appear in court for the first time and go before a judge. now, this main question here today, this issue before them is whether he will be released on any bout a prosecutor said that he should be detained because they said not only is he a flight risk chris, but he also has a long history of violence toward women all laid out in that indictment. they also say he has access to weapons. some of those that you mentioned that ties into that and that he also as part of these charges, has tried to intimidate some witnesses, telling them to come up with a false narrative that they were questioned by prosecutors. but then one of the main things that they laid out here was also hit is access to money. what prosecutors wrote in a court filing was that diddy has access to dozens of bank accounts, some personal and many under corporate entities, which contain millions of dollars, the defendants vast resources make him a flight risk, even without a passport, private plane, or multiple residences. now, diddy's lawyers have offered up a backpack good. about 50 million

that would be backed by some of his homes including a mansion in miami that we'll all be up for the judge to decide now, his lawyer, marc agnifilo, we caught up with him before he walked into court today. he said that if his client is asked to enter a plea, he will plead not guilty to these charges. here's more of what diddy's attorney said? >> i spent i spent the evening with them. i was willing to about 1:00. >> the skirts are good. he's confident he is dealing with this head on the way he's dealt with every challenge in his life and he's, he's not guilty. he's innocent of these charges. >> now, ultimately, you will be up to the judge to decide whether diddy is a flight risk or whether he will release him on some kind of condition that would satisfy the concerns that prosecutors have. all of that will be discussed and argued in court. it's unclear yet if diddy will be asked to enter a plea plea and be arraigned on these charges. if so, his lawyers have said he will plead not guilty. brianna boris. >> all right. kara scannell,

live for us from new york. thank you. >> boris we're also following a number of developments in the investigation into the apparent assassination attempt to former president donald trump and the race for the white house today, trump returns to the campaign trail for the first time since that attempt on his life over the weekend, he's going to be in the battleground state of michigan for a rally this evening, a town hall, so to speak. it comes as florida governor ron desantis announced today that the state is now launching its own investigation into the apparent assassination attempt can i just got a low suarez is following all of this for us. so god knows, what can you tell us about this new state investigation, how it differs from the federal one well, boris, part of the florida governor's rationale for calling for this state investigation is that the state of florida right now? >> according to him, at least can charge a 58-year-old ryan ruth with attempted murder. that attempted murder rather that is a more serious charge than the one the ones that the,

eight-year-old is currently facing in federal court. now, it is important to note that those two gun-related charges in federal court were sought by prosecutors all in an effort to make sure that ruth remains in jail as they continue their investigation. in other words, it's possible that federal prosecutors could come back with additional charges against ruth. >> now desantis at a news conference this morning said that the state of florida has jurisdiction to file some of these charges, and at least two counties, one here in west palm, where the incident took place and another up in martin county where the accused was taken into custody boris the girls. i understand that trump actually met with the deputies that captured ruth. what was that meeting? >> yeah, that's exactly right. so in about the last hour or so, we learned from the trump campaign folks and we should have video of that of the former president meeting with the deputies at that arrested a

ryan ruth yesterday, about an hour north of where we are here in west palm beach. we learned yesterday he that it took deputies about 22 minutes from the moment that the be on the lookout went out after that incident in order for them to spot this car. that route was in and then make that arrest. in fact, yesterday, we saw some of this pretty dramatic body camera video showing these deputies aligned up behind a car, making their way closer and closer to ruth. and then eventually taking him in to custody. boris golos, waters. >> thank you so much for the update from west palm beach. want to take you now live to flint, michigan, the side of that trump campaign event later today with cnn's kristen holmes, who's there for us kristen, what should we anticipate from tonight's event well, of course tonight as a town halls, there are huckabee sanders, the governor of arkansas, former press secretary, is going to be moderating a donald trump's campaign has done one of these before with tulsi gabbard.

>> essentially, he speaks anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes and that he takes questions from voters. that's the actual event. now, in terms of what we're going to see with ramped up security that is one of our big questions as we have reported, donald trump's team says, the show must go on, that they're going to continue to campaign as though nothing happened on sunday. keep up with the same pace they had this event scheduled. they have another veteran washington, dc another event, wilmington, north carolina. and they do say that there have been some changes in security protocol, but boris, one of the biggest questions we have is how exactly they could ramp up security even more than they already had before that first assassination attempt or after, excuse me, that first assassination attempt in butler, pennsylvania. i have been to a number of rallies after that happened, and it has been such an increase in security, not just the fact that you can see physically see the amount of us secret service on the property, the agents have increased. you could also see the local law enforcement. there are more law enforcement, more street closures, more

people blocking off areas around the venue it is unclear how they can make that even more secure than it already was, particularly given that he's already inside of a building, but the team says that they're going to do that. so when we go inside shortly here, we're going to keep an eye out for how exactly it seems to be that they've ramped up the security here, but again, we're looking at a time period in which donald trump it was really one of the most protected people in the entire country. so how they can protect him, even further after what we saw on sunday remains to be seen kristen holmes thank you so much. >> graeme right. >> we are also just moments away from hearing from vice president kamala harris. she is hitting the campaign trail today in philadelphia. harris, preparing to have a conversation with the national association of black journalists pennsylvania, of course, a key state in this presidential race joining us now from in capitol hill, we have democratic congresswoman from the commonwealth of pennsylvania, madeleine dean

congresswoman trump blamed this apparent assassination attempt and just to be clear, that is the official term the fbi is using an apparent assassination attempt. trump blamed it on biden and harris's rhetoric it's almost certain harris is going to be asked about this today. what do you want to hear from her well, first let me say that i'm shocked and stunned that just nine weeks after the july 13 attempted assassination of the former president in butler, pennsylvania. >> here we are, again with another attempt emptied assassination, apparent, attempted assassination has to be investigated. how a man was on that property adjacent, so close to the golf course where the president was golfing it is stunning. it is shocking. it is sobering i'm on the task force, as you know, it is a bible partisan task force created a mandated by congress in a, you're in a unanimous vote, 416 to nothing to get at

the truth. so when i hear the former president make statements, sweeping statements without any evidence as to who is to blame? i asked for caution i'm so thankful that he was not injured, that no one was injured in this case. but we must not leap to conclusions it is our words that matter and it is words that can incite violence. there is no place for political violence, and there is no place for naming people as guilty of something. when you have absolutely no evidence democratic senator blumenthal says that he's quote, on the verge of outrage with dhs for refusing to provide documents and evidence in the senate investigation to the first attempt. >> does this mirror your experience as a member? of the congressional task force well, we have done document production, requested documents, and we have gotten thousands of pages of documents. >> i am not up to date on what it is the senator has asked for

and what has been denied to him but we are working well, you know that this task force, both the minority and majority sides, are staffed up. our mission is the same, whether you are talking to chairman kelly or ranking member jason crow. it is to get at the truth to find out what went wrong. we will also find out things that went right but to also find out, how do we make sure moving forward from that day forward that every one of the protectees has the maximum protection, and we find out the glitches, whether it is in communications, whether it is an oversight, whether it is in coordination with local law enforcement, whether it is in site selection, and so many others thanks. so i'm not sure what the senator is referring to, but we are getting the production of tremendous number of documents and data. >> how big of a solution in terms of your recommendations are you, are you prepared to make, for instance, senator lindsey graham is actually calling for treasury to take the secret service out for dhs.

do you agree with that i would not prejudge what our recommendations are going to be as you know, we have a monumental task to take a look at this assassination attempt from july i'm not sure whether or not two days ago was attempted assassinate, apparent attempted assassination will be consolidated into our work. >> are mandate is to have a report by december 13 and what i can tell you is it will be complete. we will uncover everything we can possibly uncover tell me what went wrong. we already know and secret service has said a they are ultimately responsible for the safety of their protectees. and b, that there were serious communications failures were prepared to make recommendations for whatever is needed. and rather than move the department out of treasury. we have to make sure they are properly resourced. here we are just days away from a budget deadline and we have not passed

a budget bills. so what i want to hear from the majority here is, what do you need secret service to keep people safe? and to do your job as well as you possibly can. >> i do want to focus on your home state of pennsylvania is so crucial. this is where vice president harris is today, the state supreme court actually ruled on friday that counties can reject mail ballots over missing or incorrect dates. the ap reports that this could mean more than 10,000 ballots it's thrown out, which could impact the outcome of the presidential race this was not purely a republican decision. this was split decision between republicans and democrats on the court. do you understand the decision? >> i haven't read the decision. know you're reporting it to me. i've actually been talking with our secretary of state about the importance of making sure every single ballot legitimate ballot is cast and counted. and so i haven't read that decision but to your point about pennsylvania, we are the keystone state, again, in this

election cycle. that's why you see so much attention being paid. my district, my constituents care desperately about this upcoming election cycle. and as you say, if 10,000 votes are tossed out it could be a problem for example, in 20 on to 16, mr. trump won pennsylvania by 44,000 votes across the entire commonwealth in 2020, mr. biden won by 80,000 votes. so that is just a few votes per, per precinct so every vote counts and i want every correct correct. i mean, legitimate vote to be counted and i have a confidence either confidence in my counties, montgomery and burks counties that they will do this job diligently and well, and make sure every vote is counted. >> congresswoman, madeleine dean. thank you so much for your time thank you. >> brianna after dozens of bomb threats and some death threats, security beefed up all around springfield, ohio the threats

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the edge premieres sunday at nine on cnn across springfield, ohio are back open today with added security measures in place. >> after dozens of bomb threats this past week, 36 troopers is going to be monitoring all 17 school starting today and they will stay on campuses until after for dismissal. tower cameras and bomb sniffing dogs have also been deployed this is springfield's new reality in the wake of unfounded allegations by former president trump and his running mate, ohio senator j.d vance. but the town's haitian immigrants are stealing and eating family pets according to ohio's governor schools in springfield have gotten more than 30 bomb threats since late last week for more on all of this, we're joined now by the mayor of springfield, rob rue. mayor. thank you so much for being with us. i want to ask you about something that ohio's governor mike dewine road in a statement saying that a lot of

these threats are coming from overseas seas. do you know if these threats have come exclusively from abroad i just lean on what the governor has already stated that we said that the threats are coming overseas and that's the information that we feel comfortable sharing right now. i understand that you also personally got some threads no specific country was named in the governor's statement, but i'm wondering if, you know where these threats are coming from. if you could share that with us? >> now i don't specifically know or what i be comfortable with sharing other than the fact that, you know, when they mentioned myself and my family and other community leaders, it's it's definitely a deep concern and something i never thought i'd have to deal with yeah, i can imagine the governor said that the threats have not had any validity at all. yet, the ohio state

highway patrol has been deployed to monitor schools and obviously i imagined that you are probably considering some kind of enhanced protection. are you concerned that someone is going to act out? on these threats threats, i think it's always a concern that somebody would act out. >> i think the city of springfield has taken measures to enhance our security within the air and we're doing that right now it's important that we make sure that our leaders are cure and that our community buildings, our city buildings, are secure it struck me that among these threats, some individuals, students set wittenberg university were named as targets. >> do you know why they were named and how confident are you that these students can be protected? >> i'm very confident it could be protected. this is the reason the governor says this is a hoax, is because these are what i understand to learn as a

swatting programme where information is put together emails and sent out. not that they're not a deep concern, but it's something that they are just paying attention to. everything that's why there's so many resources that the state of ohio is committed to springfield to secure our community, secure our schools, and it's important that we don't been a need to fear and we make sure that we focus on community safety as well as as moving forward word from this time on that note about not bending in need of fear. what do you think the long-lasting effect of this episode is going to be on your community when the interview requests are long over and sprayed is forgotten from the season, we are going to be left with a situation to a secure to clean up into bring your community together. >> we are resilient community. we will come through this. we are strong community with community with a grid that that

we've overcome a lot of things within our community. >> we have community problems like every other one does. >> but we are strong and we'll come together to work through this for sure do you feel that you're community is in a better place now given these unfounded stories coming to light because senator j.d. >> vance said that he used these stories to bring attention to in his words, the problems of haitian migration in springfield. do you think? the city's better off now for those efforts redefine what those efforts would be. >> so i could tell you for better off sure. >> i mean, in his words and michael oh, i see what you're getting at. >> yeah. i think i just want to get your perspective on the idea that maine picking these accusations has brought attention, wanted attention to the problems of springfield because it doesn't seem like school closures and threats on

the mayor and others actually does that accomplishes that goal? >> it's brought a lot of negative attention. our community. one of the reasons that i'm talking to you and other and doing other interviews is because i find myself in a place to make sure that you're listening that to the real and true story of springfield do we have concerns? yes. how we had infrastructure strain because the immigrants that have come into town yes. >> yes. yes. i'm not denying the concerns and problems that we've had but we are a community of resilience and we are a good community. we are a beautiful city, were not a horrible city, were not falling apart. we have strain and stress and we're trying to figure it out, but none of this attention that has been brought upon springfield, ohio is helping helping us. we only have troops state troopers here. now. and the level we have because of the threats we've received in the last five, i think we're going to five or six days of continuous

threats we were not receiving threats before this level. >> when we were highlighted on the national stage now we have threats now. >> now we're having to respond. this is costing the city. this is, we're definitely in the hundreds of thousands of dollars of expense. >> we haven't calculated the overtime the contracts that need to be secured to be able to secure and communicate are our take care of our city we haven't even seen the cost of the state resources that had to be sent to a city like ours or any other city that would be put under this slight and shut under this negativity that we have to make sure that the things are secure. >> i don't mean to repeat myself and those are the expenses that we now have over the last six days that we did not have seven days ago it sounds like this episode is only caused further strain. >> i hope it gets cleared up soon and like you said, you can look forward to a day where springfield isn't known for this sort of thing. may robert

wood. thank you so much for sharing your time with us. >> thanks for having me on of course, at any moment on cnn, vice president kamala harris is going to speak in pennsylvania, a key state in this election cycle. >> it's likely needed to win the war white house. >> and she's going to be speaking to members of the national association of black journalists. >> remember, two months ago, donald trump at their convention had a contentious appearance in which he question whether harris used her racial identity to her advantage. she's likely going to be asked about that will carry her response in her remarks when we come back. >> saturday's game on tnt too off men gives you healthier, smooth, are feeling scared to celebrate lives and tense

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hosting me today. >> four years ago, when we came in, we came in during the worst unemployment since the great depression we came in during the worst public health epidemic in centuries. >> we came in after the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war and a lot of it do in large part to the mismanagement by the former president covid and obviously january 6, and we had been a lot of work to do to clean up a mess as of today, we have created over 16 million new jobs, over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs we have the lowest black unemployment rate in a generations we have invested in small businesses and i'm to the benefit of many people, but including black

small businesses, some of the highest rate of creation of new black small businesses in years we have done the work of capping the cost of prescription medication for our seniors for issues like insulin. and again, i'm speaking to the black journalists who care about all people. but in particular, i'll talk about the impact on black people. we know black folks are 60 times more likely 60%, excuse me, more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes and we have now finally cap the cost of insulin for our seniors at $35 a month. cap the cost of prescription medication for our seniors at $2,000 a year because we, unlike the former president who promised to do it we finally have allowed medicare to negotiate drug prices against the big pharmaceutical companies. these are just some of the accomplishments as the price of groceries still too high? yes do we have more work to do? yes. >> i will tell you. >> i do believe that i offer a

new generation of leadership for our country that is about in particular, turning the page on an era that sadly has shown us attempts by some to incite fear to create division in our country and to do the work that is about bringing some level of optimism and dare i say ambition about what i know is possible in our country. and so my plan for the economy includes what i imagined and believe and call it an opportunity economy what we can do to grow an opportunity economy where all people have access to the resources to compete, to apply their incredible work ethic their ambition, their aspirations, and their dreams actually, not just get by but get ahead. and i can talk in more detail about it, but specifically i'll mention a few things one of the big issues that affects people,

right now in terms of the economy and their economic wellbeing is we have a shortage of housing supply expensive. people can afford to buy a home. you know, we grew up, our parents where they had the ability to somehow believe the american dream was attainable. >> not so much for younger working people and i recognise that my approach is a new approach, which is to say, let's just take this and deal with it head on and part of my approach is to say, i'm going to employ and in engaged the private sector. >> in particular, homebuilders with tax credits to give them the incentive to create new housing, 3 million by the end of my first term. and understanding that not everybody is handed a silver spoon but works hard and it's trying to save up for a downpayment part of my plan

under my opportunity economy is to give first-time homebuyers a $25,000 downpayment assistance so they can just get their foot in the door to be able to then engage in what will prove to be there opportunity to build intergenerational wealth. and here's my personal experience coming at that. i grew up middle-class kid my mother was hardworking. she raised me and my sister, maya. she saved up and it was only by the tub. i was a teenager that she could afford to actually buy her first home. and i know and identify with i know where i come from from madam vice dean, i know, but i'm just going to face i know that so many people work so hard and should have the opportunity to just get their foot in the door. again, this was not just about getting by, but getting ahead, please. >> i'd like to ask you more about the opportunity economy housing is a part of it, as well as expanding the earned

income tax credit and financial support, as you mentioned, for first-time buyers and $50,000 tax deduction for startups and small businesses but i want to talk to you about the squeeze that millions of americans are also dealing with. that impacts they were ability to work and make money. and that is childcare and eldercare. and it's a squeeze for millions of people in some parts of the country, it costs more for childcare than four rents. i think swimming remembered recently reported an average of $33,000 a year so i'm just wondering, you mentioned that in your opportunity economy, a child tax credit, but that's just one part of the ecosystem. please tell us what plans will you propose to guarantee that families can actually afford childcare and eldercare? >> so to your point, it is it is sadly, the state of affairs in our country that working

people often have to decide to either be able to work or be able to for childcare. they can't afford childcare. and ashley do the work that they want to do because it's too expensive and it doesn't actually level out in terms of the expense versus the income my plan is that no family, no working families should pay more than 7% of their income on childcare because i when you talk about the return on that investment allowing people to work, allowing people to pursue their dreams. in terms of how they want to work, where they want to work benefits us all. it's strengthens the entire economy. we saw, for example during the pandemic, what happened and it sadly has dissipated as a conversation that we need to resuscitate, which is the number of women that had to leave the workforce because of a lack of childcare and home

health care. and so many of our families, in particular, women end up carrying the responsibility men do to of course what we call people who are in the sandwich generation exactly who have young children and are also taking care of their parents and it is just absolutely too expensive for them to be able to work and do that so my plan is not only about 7% of income for working people, for childcare but also we need to do better for our child care providers and our hope health care providers. in terms of ensuring that they receive the wages that they deserve based on the dignity of their work. i have spent time with home health care providers and their work is some of the most taxing work you can imagine. and i actually wanted my mother was sick with cancer did a lot in terms of taking care of her and the

is about taking care of a loved one in particular, an elder is extraordinarily heavy in terms of the emotional toll, the time it takes and we do it because that is what we do. but not everyone has the ability to take time from work to do go ahead they need help and we need to make sure we have home health care workers that can help them. but i want also get back to the earlier point that you made about extending the child tax credit. so part of my new approaches we need to expand the child tax credit and so part of my plan that is under an opportunity economy is to extend and expand the child tax credit to $6,000 so that young families in particular for the first year of their child's life, which is an extraordinarily important time in their development have the resources to be able to buy a crib by a car seat by children's clothing, and not have to worry about whether they're going to be able to meet their other needs and i

will i don't need to remind anybody here, especially these these esteemed journalists, but when we expanded the child tax credit a couple of years ago, we reduce black child poverty by half so again, if you talk about the benefit and if you think about the benefit to the economy overall it strengthens our economy to do things like pay attention to affordable child care, affordable home health care, and extending the child tax credit vice president a black man, as you know, are a closely watched voting bloc. you've hosted black men at your residence. you have engaged blackman and centre them and you're economic opportunity tour. but polling shows that some black men, particularly young black man are considering voting for donald trump. and they see him as better for the economy. what is your message to young black male voters who feel left out of this economy and how can your economic policies

materially changed their lives? >> so i appreciate the spirit of the question, but i'll tell you, i've often been asked this question in a way that i've had to respond by first saying that i think it's very important to not the assumption that black men are in anybody's pocket black men are like any other voting group. you had to earn their vote so i'm working to earn the vote not assuming i'm going to have it because i am black, but because the policies and the perspectives i have understands what we must do to recognise the needs of all communities. and i intend to be a president for all people specifically as it relates to what we need to do to your point around, economic opportunity? yes. i started way before i was at the top of the ticket in what i call an economic opportunity tour, focused on black men

understanding that for example, we have so many entrepreneurs in the community who do not have access to capital, but they've got great ideas an incredible work ethic the ambition the aspiration, the dream. but don't have the relationships necessarily. my work has included as vice president, getting billions more dollars into community banks, including working with the big banks to do that. so that we can increase access to capital for our small businesses for our startups. part of my plan under my economic opportunity plan going forward is that right now startup entrepreneurs, small businesses only get a tax deduction of $5,000 nobody can start small business with $5,000. >> so i'm expanding that to $50,000 understanding, again, that when people have the opportunity to have the race sources to get started they're

going to put the good ideas, they're going to put the hard work into it and part of what i also know is that our young black man or black men, just like any group of people, anybody our small businesses are really the backbone of our economy overall. >> and when they do better economic glee we all do better. part of my work is about understanding what we need to do in dealing with, for example, the historic inequities that have faced the black community around homeownership. right? but i don't have to go through the history with anybody here about what that has meant in terms of redlining, what that has meant and in terms of bias season home appraisals, and what that the impact it has had on stemming the opportunity to build intergenerational wealth because of those obstacles. so part of the work that i have done and will continue to do is identify, speak truth about those obstacles, and address them. another example is medical debt one in four black

families are individuals is more likely to carry medical debt than others so part of my perspective and as vice president, part of the work that we have done is to say that we're going to eliminate medical debt from being on your credit score because until now, medical debt worked against your credit score and, you know, people no, there their credit score like, you know, you wait, right? you know that number and the difference between what that number is and what it needs to be as the difference between you being able to get a car loan, a small business loan, or even alisyn on an apartment and so part of my approach is understanding the obstacles that traditionally and currently exist to allow anyone, including black men be able to achieve economic wealth. and i'm going to tell you, i don't think it is sufficient to just only talk about economic policy around reducing

unemployment it is an important marker and i'm proud of the work that we've done thus far. but it should be a baseline there. >> everybody's working. >> the point is, do people have an opportunity to build wealth? >> if that's what they choose to do, if that's what they want to do. and a lot of my perspective as we go forward is just that i believe that there are a lot of opportunities that are available to the american people if we just see if we see people and understand what they want for themselves and their families and then meet them where they are. >> madam vice president, i want to switch gears a little bit and talk about the war in gaza you've called for ceasefire-hostage deal and a two-state solution as an end to the war for many months now and while you've expressed support for israel to defend itself, a

two-state solution and a ceasefire are at odds with what benjamin netanyahu has said is their right to defence if it matters, as you say, how israel defends itself, where do you see the line between aggression and defence in our power as israel's ally to do something okay, a lot to unpack in which you just said. so let's start with this i absolutely believe that this war has to end and, it has to end as soon as possible and the way that will be achieved is by getting a hostage deal and a ceasefire deal done and we are working around the clock to achieve that end. stepping back october 7 7, 1,200 israelis were slaughtered and actually in some americans, by the way in that number slaughter, young

people who are attending a concert, women were horribly raped. and yes, so i have said, israel has a right to defend itself. we would and matt, let me for my ask, is that aggression and it's important to put it in context, which is what i'm doing and i'll get to that so how it does so matters and far too many innocent palestinians have been killed women and children we have seen with horror the images coming out of gaza and we have to take that seriously. and we have to agree that not only must we end this war, but we have to have a goal of a two-state solution because there must be stability and peace in that region. in as much as what we do in our goal is to ensure that israelis have

security and palestinians in equal measure have security, have self-determination and dignity. >> a question for you on that though, what levers does the u.s. have? to support palestinians and their right to self-determination. and is it even possible as israel's ally will absolutely i will tell you, i have been actively involved in, for example, meeting not only with israeli officials, but with arab officials to talk about how we can construct a day after scenario where we participate in ensuring those exact goals that i outlined including as part of the principles that should be applied to those goals, that there'll be no reoccupation of gaza that there be no changing of the territorial lines in gaza that

there be an ability to have security in the region for all concerned in a way that we create stability. >> and let's, let us also recognise in a way that ensures that iran and it is not empowered in this whole scenario in terms of the peace and stability of the region. but absolutely the, the united states of america, absolutely has a role, which is why we have been active in particular with the qatari's and the egyptians around attempting to get a deal done and get it done as quickly as possible. >> good matter of hours because it just to follow up really quickly. is there a specific policy change that you as my as president of the united states with say you would do that would help this along because you've gotten a lot of credit for emphasising the humanity of palestinians i often hear from folks, is that there's no policy change that would that either you are the president by president biden have gone and said they would do is there a

specific policy change? just president that you would do in are helping of israel mostly get this deal done. >> and we need to get it done immediately. and that is my position. it is my policy. we need to get this deal done. >> but in the way that we send weapons, in the way that we interact as their outlet. are there specific policy changes? >> well, eugene, for example, one of the things that we have done that in entirely supportive of is the pause that we've put on the 2000 pound bombs and so there is some leverage that we have had in used. but ultimately the thing that is going to unlock everything else in that region is getting this deal done and i can i'm not going to disclose private conversations, but i will tell you i've had direct conversations with the prime minister with the president of israel, with egyptian leaders and with our allies and i think we've made ourselves very

clear this deal needs to get done in the best interest of everyone in the region, including getting those hostages out, who i mean, we saw the latest example of what happened with the six most recently, one of whom was an american citizen but what do. >> you say to those that say that's not enough? that stopping the 2000 pound bombs, the onetime wasn't enough that these ministration you're possibly administration has to do more well we are doing the work of putting the pressure on all parties involved to get the deal done. but let me be very clear also i, support israel's ability to defend itself and i support the need for palestinians to have dignity self-determination, and security as we move forward and get a two state deal done. but right now the thing we need to

get done as this hostage deal and ceasefire deal, we need a ceasefire, we need the hostage deal. >> i want to switch gears to racial justice. madam vice president. last month, you eulogise congresswoman sheila jackson lee. jackson lee's signature, bill, one of a few was hr 40, which would create a commission to study the history of us slavery and study the issue of reparations she introduce hr 40 every session of congress taking up the mantle from congressman john conyers this is a bill that you have co-sponsor as a us senator yet this has, despite the fact that this has been similar commissions have been accreted on the state level and on the local level is yet to pass in congress, let alone come out of committee lee, congresswoman barbara lee and other advocates have called for president biden to take executive action to take, to create this commission. would you, as president? take

executive action to create this commission. or do you believe that it should happen in congress well, first of all, just as you mentioned, sheila jackson lee, she was an extraordinary leader who we just recently lost and she was a friend and a real champion for so many issues. >> so i feel compelled to say that about her on the issue of what we need to do going forward, look at, first of all, we just need to speak truth about history in spite of the fact that some people were try and erase history and try and teach our children otherwise we need to speak truth about the generational impact of our history in terms of the generational impact of slavery, that generational impact of of red lining, of jim crow law. i could go on and on and on these are facts that have had impact

and we need to we need to speak truth about it. and we needed to speak truth about it in a way that is about deriving solutions. and frankly, i think that we you know, in part of that is studying it to figure out exactly what we need to do. but part of what we can do right now is, for example, what i'm talking about in terms of building an opportunity economy which is addressing explicitly the obstacles that historically and currently exist and dealing with them student loan debt or medical debt bias and home appraisals what we need to do in terms of dealing with an issue that i have championed for years black maternal mortality which is the fact that black women are three to four times more likely to die in connection with childbirth than other women. and we know that the reasons for that include disparities that

preexist her pregnancy including disparities that exists in the system during her pregnancy. so all of those things must be addressed but do you have a position on whether that should happen? >> this commission should happen through executive order or via congress. >> i think congress ultimately will have the ability to do this work i'm not discounting the importance of any executive action, but ultimately congress because if you're going to talk about it in any substantial way, there will be hearings, they will be a level of public education and dialogue that and i think that was part of the spirit behind the congressional action thus far to ensure that everyone can participate in this conversation in a way that elevates knowledge about history and the reference points that have that are the impetus of this conversation.

especially again when. people are trying to deny history, when people are so-called leaders, saying that enslaved people benefited from slavery. i mean, let's talk about the delta here in terms of the work that needs to be done profound matter, vice president want to move to springfield, ohio. and what's happening there? we seem school closures. parents worried about their kids leaving the home because of racist conspiracy theory but i won't repeat here, but they have been repeated by leaders on the republican side, president trump, vice president, excuse me, former president trump, vice and vice presidential nominee j.d. vance from your perspective, is this just a case of irredeemable racism that can't be mitigated by any rational action? or is this a situation in which a federal response could help this community hill? question of resources and let you finish from then i'll speak. >> no comes it's a crying

shame i mean, my heart breaks for this community you know, there were children, elementary school children was school photo day you remember what that's like? >> gone to school on picture day got already knew they were going to wear the night before it had to be evacuated children children in fear things about it one, you know, i learned a long time ago in my career having a background as a prosecutor positions, when you have that

kind of microphone in front of you you really ought to understand at a very deep level how much your words have meaning i learned at a very young stage of my career that the meaning of my words could impact whether somebody was free or in prison general, i was accused of california fifth largest economy in the world i was acutely aware that my words could move markets bestowed with a microphone that is that big there is a profound responsibility that comes with that that is an extension of what should not be lost in this moment, this concept of the public trust to then understand

what the public trust means. it means that you have been invested with trust to be responsible way you use your words much less how you conduct yourself you have been and then seek to be again president of the united states of america i go back to it's a crying shame literally what's happening to those families, those children in that community, not to mention what is happening in terms of look, you say you care about law enforcement law enforcement resources being put into this because of these serious threats that are being issued against a community that is living a productive, good life before this happened spewing lie that are grounded in tropes

that are age old and look, i said it not very far from here the other day at the debate this is not new in terms of these tropes. this is not new in terms of where it's coming from and you know whether it is refusing to rent to people, rent to black families, whether it is taking out a full-page ad in the new york times against five innocent black and latino teenagers. the central park five calling for their execution whether it is referring to the first black president united states, with a lie birth or american people deserve. and i do believe was better than