1087 796 eva mckend on the road, the harris-walz camp cnn wednesday, september 18, right now on cnn this morning the clear sign from incitement to action is coming from the rhetoric of j.d. vance and donald trump. >> they haven't learned a damn thing. they're gonna get somebody killed. they've got to stop they've got to stop pointing the finger both sides, blaming the other for rise in political division and homes abused, threatened, and coerced victims to fulfill his sexual dyers, protect his reputation, and conceal his conduct hail denied. sean diddy combs still behind bars facing charges of

sex trap pagers it's furthering fears of a wider regional war the big announcement, the federal reserve expected to cut interest rates for the first time since 2020, just weeks from election day the east coast. a live look at new york city on this wednesday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. there are just 48 days until election day. donald trump holding his first campaign event since sunday's apparent second assassination attempt getting up close with his supporters, greeting them, shaking hands as he took the stage in michigan approx, the

proximity projection of confidence just days after the secret service engaged the gunman who was lying in wait for trial as he got a few days ago, we had an incident. i have to say secret service did a hell of a job, but this guy was all said he was all set to do is number and there was no talk. he didn't say hello. what are you doing here, please and he ends up getting shot himself. >> he took his gun, started shooting them and this guy ran sunday's events, reignited debate in washington over secret service shortcomings and over the relationship between heated the rhetoric and political violence. >> trump's opponent, kamala harris, called him yesterday to check on him. here's what she told the now association of black journalists about their conversation i told him what i have said publicly, that there's no place for political violence in our country. we can and should have healthy debates in discussion and

disagreements, but not resort to violence to resolve those issues harris is running mate echoed her message yesterday, j.d. >> vance, trump's running mate told a crowd in michigan, say calls to lower the temperature on the trail could actually lead to violence we don't solve our differences in this country with violence, we condemn it in all its forms. we solve our differences at the ballot don't lecture donald trump about softening his rhetoric after two people tried to kill him. >> it's ridiculous. don't try to censor your political opponents because censorship will eventually lead to political violence. we've seen that now twice in the last couple of months. and i hope democrats learn the lesson all right, joining us now, our panel here, any linskey keisha's reporter for the wall street journal? >> elliot williams, cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor meghan hays, former biden white house director of message planning, and brought todd republican strategist and a partner at the strategy firm on message welcome to all of you. thank you so much for being here.

>> this annie, is one of these the public partisan finger-pointing exploded right out of the gate in the wake of what we saw sunday with donald trump and as you could see, j.d. vance was going there and saying that it's blaming democrats for rhetoric that he says is escalating this, but it does seem to me that it is impossible to pull apart what we have seen from donald trump, the level of the rhetoric that he has injected into this campaign actual events we have seen in terms of how the levels of violence in our political system have risen in recent years. >> yeah, i mean, i one thing to sort of, to be clear here with the two incidents and thank god, the secret service reacted as they did. and the former president was unharmed. we don't know the motive of the of either one of these shooters i mean, we just don't. but i think the underlying point is right. and i think you see that the most clearly, quite

frankly, and ohio where the rhetoric about the false rhetoric, rhetoric about immigrants, their has caused bomb threats in schools and so there's a relationship there that's very clear when you look at no political violence. and are leaders being targeted unfortunately, this these incidents often happen in clusters and it's terrifying and it's very scary. and i think that the responsible thing to do for leaders is to tamp it down. you have you did see after the first assassination attempt of donald trump democrats, joe biden, pulled his campaign ads down. the reaction here was a little bit different. the incident was a little bit different you know, all the campaigns plowed forward. so i was really struck by that, that there was a little bit less of a big pause, but the incident was a little different. >> brad todd, when you hear j.d. vance say these things is he is he right? where do you how do you view what our

leaders should be doing in these moments? >> i've been struck by in the wake of this attack, there's just been no reflection from democrats after the first attempt as any points out, democrats immediately reacted and sort of checked, check the campaign. this time none at all. since donald trump came on biden and harris have put out a call saying there's no place for political violence. they did even trump spoke relatively graciously say about his conversations with that's not my point. >> my point is that yes, it's donald trump came on the scene. democrats have basically said that democracy will end if he's elected in which eventually some people with a screw loose, you're going to hear that and go wow, maybe it's justified if i do anything, hakeem jeffries favorite phrase on him is clear and present danger, which elliot will tell us. that's the supreme court's code for when it can, government can suppress speech and so i think we have to pull way back in this election is going to happen and someone's going to be sworn in and government will be go on. and it would be a little bit better if democrats i think pulled way back with their pocket elliptic rhetoric about donald trump being the absolute end of the republic, criticize

him on his policies, but don't act like the country ends. >> he also trump, didn't reflect either here instantly blamed the democrats for their rhetoric and he is putting out a press release with people's names saying what they have said about him. you don't think that people that targets people who do not everyone we don't know everyone's mental state into those names being out there. that also makes people at target what's going on in springfield? i disagree that it's only democrats. i think everyone needs to take a look at this and everyone needs to be reflected because something is going to happen, like something it's going to get worse if we don't control the narrative. >> i've said on this network plenty times, donald trump needs to rein it is his rhetoric, but i think we have to back off. democrats have to back off the whole consequences since let everybody know, look guess what happens web lower tax rates if he wins, we disagree with that. let's run the campaign what i'm struck by on the defensive this, or i guess on the attack on democrats on this threat to democracy stuff. >> is that for instance, trump has not committed to accepting the results of the election, right that sounds to me like a threat to democracy and i don't think it's that unfair

to question and someone's commitment to democracy if they're saying that they can't commit to the results of election. and other one is a lot of defenders of the former president have latched on this dictator concept that kamala harris, the trump, might be addict. he said those words himself. he's now, you might have been joking, but he said, i will be a dictator on day one and i guess i'm struggling with this idea that echoing those points is somehow putting chum in the water to dry out violence against for me, i would say though that, you know, that rhetoric has changed and vice president harris isn't really talking about democracy as much and it's not. the reason may not be be related to political violence. it's related to the ballot box and the fact that this okay. kristie message wasn't actually working very well for joe biden and she's shifted to something else and sort of ancillary consequences to that may be at least on the democratic side, just notching it back a little bit. >> all all right. >> we're going to continue this conversation on going throughout the morning up here on cnn this morning, the fed widely expected to announce an

interest rate cut later today. we're going to discuss what that decision says about the economy, what it could mean in the election. plus beepers, remember them, they explode across lebanon and israel's latest target of militants, broadening concerns of an all-out war in the middle east and sean diddy combs denied bail as more details emerge in his jarring sex trafficking indictment i do not see it happen he he's he's innocent. i believe he's in this i believe he's innocent of the charges. and he is going to go to trial. and i believe he's going taking a break from breaking news to air. have i got news for you? breaking news. i'm getting a sandwich. >> we need to talk about what constitutes breaking news. >> provide good news for you saturday at nine on cnn and streaming next day on monday thanks. >> stuffed up again. >> so congested, you need sinex aileen from thanks just sinex, breathe

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think i my life did night at 8:00, tbs homes allegedly planned and control the sex performances, which he called freak offs and he often electronically recorded them the freak offs sometimes lasted days at a time involve multiple commercial sex workers and often involve a variety of narcotics or as ketamine ecstasy, and ghb which combs distributed to the victims to keep them obedient and compliant shocking, graphic allegations against sean diddy combs, waking up this morning. >> in a special housing unit at the metropolitan detention center in brooklyn, new york. the rapper denied bail after pleading not guilty to charges of racketeering conspiracy, and sex trap trafficking, he'll be back in court today, making an appeal to be released. prosecutors allege that since 2008, combs has participated in a criminal organization that engaged in sex trafficking,

forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery, and obstruction of justice sean combs lead and participated in a racketeering conspiracy that use the business empire he controlled to carry out criminal activity. combs abused and exploited women and other people for years and in a variety of ways as alleged combs use force threats of force and coercion to cause victims to engage and extended sexual performances law enforcement seized guns and drugs and raids of combs home in homes in miami and los angeles in march along with more than 1,000 bottles of personal lubricant. >> the indictment alleges that combs held freak offs or elaborate coerced sex performances. diddy's attorney wants his client released pending trial, insisting that he did nothing wrong we're going to fight this case with everything we have as as he and eventually he's going to be shown to be innocent cnn legal

analyst, of course, and former federal prosecutor elliot williams has been with us. >> elliott he's been denied bail. is there any chance that he ends up out of prison here and what's next for him? it's up to the judge to decide now, it would be pretty remarkable to release him here for a number of reasons anytime in federal court, someone is charged with a crime of violence or drug crime, they're presumed to be locked locked up prior to trial unless the defendant can establish that he's not a risk of flight and not a danger to the community. >> prosecutors are going to walk into court and say, number one, this guy committed or is accused of serious sexual assaults and has the private jets and the planes in the apartments. he's both risk of flight a danger to the community. he may never get out even after trial thank you. >> were talking a little bit on the show yesterday about he went to new york in anticipation of this arrest is our understanding. he was staying at a hotel where he was taken into custody the person i was talking to you about this yesterday said, well, a joint

are joey jackson he's a cnn legal analyst. he said, well, he's trying to demonstrate that he has nothing to hide, right. that like here i am i question like, if he has all these private planes you know, why didn't he flee what's going on? well, that's why that's why the indictment was sealed up until it became public and he was arrested because of the risk of flight often, what prosecutors will do will get and secure an indictment put it away, lock it up, arrest the person, then make it available to the public because what was in the indictment, he would be more likely to flip, not just fleeing. it's tampering with evidence. those thousand bottles of vaseline or whatever or baby oil, someone could dump them down the toilet. someone could could set a house on fire. i know that's all doomsday but certainly the risks and destroying evidence is really a big one when you're talking about this volume of it and how serious the crimes are all right. >> well, i'm sure how much more on this come forward, elliott. thank you. straight ahead. here on cnn this morning a robbery scenes straight out of a movie

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>> this all right. time now for weather, the rain from that potential tropical storm moving out along the mid-atlantic after 113 days. meanwhile, phoenix finally sees temperatures below 100 degrees. those cooler temperatures spreading across the west. let's get straight to our meteorologist, the weatherman, derek van dam. derek, good morning. >> talk about an arctic outbreak. i mean, first time in 113 days without the temperature rises above 100 degrees, they're having a party in phoenix and skiers and snowboarders like me are having a party to because we had the first flakes of the season faultless some of the local ski resorts, this is coming out of california near mammoth lakes. i don't know who's more excited me or the puppy that was in this video that is what we call white gold for people who like to ski on those ski hills? yeah. phoenix. you had quite the day yesterday temperature only reaching 93 for the past 113 days. you've had that temperature above 100 degrees, so it'll stay below 100 for the next several days. the cool weather continues over the west severe weather chances

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hundreds of nearly simultaneous blasts across lebanon yesterday as pagers, remember those used by hezbollah militants exploded in an attack, deepening fears of a wider regional war. >> we do want to warn you some of the footage you're about to we'll see you might be disturbing were killed, including an eight-year-old child, thousands more were injured. cnn learning that the explosions were part of a joint operation between israel's intelligence service and the idf, hezbollah, which the u.s. considers a foreign terrorist organization vowing to retaliate while the israeli military says it's not commenting on the incident, the u.s. is denying any involvement so we are gathering information on this incident. i can tell you that the u.s. was not involved in it. the us was not aware of this incident in advance. and at this point, we are gathering information

joining me now cnn, law enforcement contributor steve moore, he's also a retired supervisory special agent for the fbi steve, good morning to you. thank you for being here. i this is quite a remarkable series of events at what do we know about how the israeli intelligence and their military we're able to pull this off well, obviously the details of it have not come out yet, but there were there were some pagers, i guess that we're not that did not go off. >> and they were able to determine that small very small pieces of explosive probably plastic explosives were set into these devices and set to go off when a certain set of buttons were pushed, which ensured that the user was was president with the pager when it went off and the buttons were triggered by an error code

that was sent out so for something like doesn't mean it must have taken months of planning to figure out how to actually do something like this. >> no this was huge. this was huge. it was a massive in endeavor to get this done. highly covert. and the difficulty here is you have to do this without the pager company being aware of it you don't want them to be that targets of retaliation. the other thing is that you have to know in advance, you have to have enough intelligence in advance to know that has belied is making a purchase of hundreds or thousands of pagers and you have to be able to target it. so it indicates just a massive intelligence breach of hezbollah's operation and

steve this does also of course, raised fears about a broader conflict here because the reality is while there are a lot of james bond style qualities to what happened, the impact is that the communications network that hezbollah relies on has now been damaged that's a strategic objective yes yes. there were several strategic objectives and i think all of them were in cipd here. number one, now, they don't have their pager network and they use the pager network because cell phones are too easily traceable. i mean, look at our society who uses pagers anymore? the same way in lebanon, whoever uses pagers instead of cell phones likely was a member of hezbollah and so what you're finding now is two things. yes, they're communications have been disrupted terribly and almost as important, the morale and the fear that this has caused

people are now wondering if any of their devices, if any of their equipment is safe and whether they're safe in their own homes yeah. >> i start taking it all part. steve moore. thanks very much for being with us this morning. i really appreciate your time let's turn now to this. a bill to guarantee access to in vitro fertilization nationwide. once again, fell short in the senate yesterday, they failed to get the 60 votes needed to pass the democratic sponsored measure with all but two republican senators voting against it shortly after the vote, president biden called out the bill's opponents. he said in a statement, quote, yet again, senate republicans refused to safeguard access to fertility treatments for women, trying to get pregnant republican officials have had every opportunity to protect reproductive freedom from ivf to contraception refuse to do so. and of course, ivf has become a mobilizing issue on the campaign trail after that, alabama supreme court decision put fertility treatments there in legal jeopardy. alabama lawmakers

letter later clarified protections for ivf after the ruling. senate republicans argue this legislation was merely an election year, show vote from democrats i think we have to be careful here because the senate did not block an ivf bill the senate blocked a ridiculous show vote bill that had no chance of passing okay. >> our panel is back this andy is obviously incredibly personal issue for people and while j.d. vance are saying this is a show vote, it's worth noting that the person at the top of his ticket says that ivf should be covered by insurance absolutely and in many ways, it was a show vote and it did show that the democrat or the republican tent and the republican coalition has two sections that oppose some amount of productions for ivf. >> there's this vote got at the small government hawks the small-government folks within the republican party who did

not like the idea of a mandate for ivf, for an insurance companies have to cover it. but also it revealed that there is influence from the question conservatives within the party who have a more visceral dislike for ivf. so there are there are two segments of the party who weren't are opposed to this legislation. and i think that was very clearly revealed by the vote i mean, brad, it's worth noting the two republicans who voted for this to female republicans, susan collins and lisa murkowski. >> this is also, again, i mean, the presidential nominee at the top of the ticket has said he wants this policy in place, right? he's trying to campaign on it. why not do it? >> well, there was a chance to do it. katie britt, he will senate republican senator from alabama had a bill yesterday that would force any state to basically to allow ivf to be legal if they didn't, they'd lose all medicaid funding. so every state's going to do that democrats wouldn't go along with it. that was a surefire way to protect ivf in every state. rick scott had a bill yesterday to decouple hsas from

the people used to save for ivf from your hot deductible plans, democrats wouldn't do it. chuck schumer wants this vote to use in this campaign. he's not willing to work with republicans to try to come up with a way that actually protect ivf in every state. yeah. i mean, it's worth noting. i think there are some provisions in both of those bills that gave democrats separate concerns, but meghan, would he do something in this bill that gave concerns me? that the bill that democrats tried to pass would legalize designer babies. it would also allow three parent embryos like there have legalized human cloning. there are a lot of poison pills that democrats put in that bill to get republic welcome to vote. no, there was a lot in there that i'm not sure i can i certainly can't back up, especially the three parent question, but meghan, go ahead. i was just going to go off of what andy was saying. this is a show vote. it showed that republicans and these independent women that are out there that you need to win the election exactly where the republican party stands on reproductive freedom. >> every, every republican senators on his letter, this it says we're support ivf, everyone. >> but when they have the opportunity to vote for it, they did not vote for it again and again on a clean bill, it doesn't matter. that's not the

that's not the way our legislator work new legislation doesn't work that way. and the nobel is clean so they had an opportunity to do it. they did not do it i agree that this is a show vote is a political move on the part of democrats, but this showing women exactly where the republican party's stance, if democrats wanted to make sure ivf is legal in every state to pass katie britt's bill it's just clean ability. you're going to i mean, i don't know enough about her bill, but there's a process that how this goes through legislation. >> it did not make it through to get a vote on the floor. this bill did they voted against it? that is all the people need to know. >> it got to vote because chuck schumer only let that there is a process that works through committee. they did not do it. and if shows women and these independent voters that you need to win the election exactly where the republican party stands. >> well, and elliot williams mean the big picture picture here is that the reason we're having this conversation is because roe fell and every state now has its own rules around reproductive rights and freedoms. and there are places where, i mean, if you follow the letter of the law, the way many conservatives, evangelicals in particular, like any pointed out you end up

with this been illegal? >> yeah. well, it's two things. it's roe fell and it is a winning issue for democrats, both row and all of its progeny. and when you talk about reproductive freedom, but also ivf specifically, you say the letters and democrats have taken the issue taking the issue over and this idea. and so for folks that don't live in the beltway, this idea of the show bill or the messaging bill is very common in this town where the party in power knows they have a winning issue, pulls a vote up. it's very hard for other people to say that they oppose, gets them to vote against it. and then they can say, well, look, our opponents don't support this basic fundamental chilling really when republicans do it, the press calls it a political starting with democrats to do it. it says, this shows where everyone is no. elliott explain the concept of show vote, right there but it's showing republicans where i was showing these independent women where republicans generally what i'm saying heavy is the head that wears the crown, right. >> and when you have the power in the united states senate,

you, you bring up these bills to force the other side to cast a difficult vote on it. >> chuck schumer wanted to bring the senate together to protect ivf. he could republicans are all willing to do it. he doesn't want to. >> well, the house could do it we can feel the same thing. i wonder about. i mean, this is the exact same thing that happened with immigration republicans turned down a bipartisan bill. this is just showing the american people where congress is and where your party is. and this is, this is a problem. this election is going to be in five or six states with independent women and these types of bills show people because there was not enough the nuance isn't heard marshals and in these, in these states. >> all right. still to come here after the break. all eyes on the fed today, the central bank is expected to cut interest rates for the first time in more than four years plus arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders criticizing kamala harris, not for the policies but about not having biological children keep me humble unfortunately,

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trump and j.d. vance baselessly claimed that haitian migrants in the town are eating people's pets those claims have been debunked by local officials and instagram, taking what they're calling their biggest step yet for protecting younger users, the social media platform announcing it will put in place new teen settings, which will automatically make millions of accounts private in restrict certain content for those users. >> i have to come, i have a question here. i mean, does this actually going to make a difference because i mean, this is again, anecdata for my instagram feed, the parents that i am hearing from are just saying this is not enough. i mean, what do you think? >> it's never enough given how pervasive social media is and kids access to now, it's a step, it's a valuable step, but but i think that's absolutely correct. it's i don't you're trying to plug i don't know what i think they're also trying to get credit ahead of. there's this bill in congress, right around this. it would basically forced them to do some of these things. >> you know, there's not much agreement on republicans and democrats in washington much,

but on social media regulation for teens can pretty much get unanimity. it's coming and silicon valley knows it. >> and that's why, again, we're seeing this. >> alright, let's turn now to this anticipated news today and announcement from the federal reserve this afternoon, the central bank expected to cut us interest rates for the first time in four years. >> a move that's meant to lower borrowing costs for american consumers and businesses businesses, that could mean cheaper mortgages, credit card rates, and auto loans. it signals that the fed does think inflation is under control and it's shifting attention to the job market which has shown some signs of weakness expected decision comes less than seven weeks from election day. that breaks a norm to leave it interest rates alone in the months leading up to a presidential election. donald trump and kamala harris both trying to get out ahead of the fed's announcement on the campaign trail the economy is now not good and interest rates you'll see, they'll do the right guy to know all the political stuff tomorrow. >> i think. and will he do a

half a point where they do a quarter of a point? but the reason that is because the economy is not good. otherwise you wouldn't be able to do it as of today, we have created over 16 million new jobs, over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs is the price of groceries still too high? yes. do we have more work to do? yes so any linskey this is clearly something where there is pressure on the fed to do the question is are going to court-appointed, going to do a half-point. >> elizabeth warren and some others want them to do three-quarters of a point the point is that there is concern that they have left these rate hikes stand for too long and that it may be damaging the economy to the point where it's endangering a recession. it is unusual for them to do something like this, this close to an election. what do you make of it? yeah, to do it so close you're absolutely right. >> is unusual and i think there were some people who had i've had very much hope that the fed would have done this a little bit earlier in the summer. that being said one of the amazing

part about about jerome powell and the fed as he has been very clear about signaling what he is going to do. and so i think that it helps kind of reduce sort swings in march it gets that we saw with previous fed chair's, but he has been very clear that he sees them an opportunity for a rate cut, and it is really just balancing whether or not he believes that has he gotten as inflation gotten under control to where he could really do they could really do a full half a point or will they just ease it just a smaller amount brad, todd, what what are the politics of this year? >> because obviously, i mean, as much as we talk about all of these various developments right? the fundamentals of the economy are still likely to be the driver of the outcome in november, if you go mortgage in donald trump's presidency as part for three-and-a-half percent. if you've gotten won in joe biden's is probably seven americans understand that housing costs a lot more to buy during this biden administration and i think what's more important is that early in the harris-biden

administration, they said inflation was transitory. the said it wouldn't last, and that's why it was okay to keep doing stimulus. that's why it was okay to keep raising if the price of energy that got us more inflation, i think that is driving the election more than anything else happens in the daily news cycle is americans know the economy was a lot better off before biden and harris were in office. >> i see what you did there by the way, the harris-biden administration, it is still the biden-harris meghan yeah. >> i just i mean, i think that the rate cut will help inflation is lowering unemployment is low the economy, the they inherited, i think that they are doing what they could do and they say full well, that we inherited an economy and we had to make decisions and inflation was high and it's now lower than it was in january of january 21, i think it's like right around there. so i think you know, this, it will help that and i think that this is an important issue. it is interesting that's going to be, it makes it very political right cut. so i think it'll be interesting right before the election to see how it plays out. >> yeah, elliot williams there does seem to be this sense and obviously the fed is independent right? they do not

did not take their marching orders from whoever is the president or people who are running for president however, there is this sense when you read kind of banking reports on political environments that come out of the major banks, they look at congress, they look at things like this there is this sense from some of them seem to be bringing to the table that if donald trump is elected, rates, there will be more aggressive rate cuts because he will be basically putting pressure on the fed how do you see that playing out, especially now, it's reality is picking up on brad's point. the reality is that the print well, it's pushing back on brad a little bit, but you're making an important point by using the term harris-biden administration in reality, presidents don't have full control over monetary policy, but to your point did you have a mortgage a few years ago versus do you have a mortgage today? it doesn't matter that jerome powell might be more response. the chair of the fed for what your mortgages than the president the united states, the simple fact is, today, it's the president and people associate that with the president united states. and so

to some of these points about donald trump, there's the optics and the so situation that's made therein you can't change. >> yeah. i mean, i think inflation is something you know, it's it has a once-in-a-generation think this generation, we are not used to inflation. i think that brad is right, that in terms of what the what voters are thinking about, it the cost that has gone up so much since the pandemic, since the pandemic and even though the rate of inflation has lowered, costs are still going up and it's just the country's never going to get back to where it was. i mean, you know what you'd have disinflation which could create other problems. but there's still that expectation when you go into the grocery store that you're not going to be paying? $150 for groceries, yet you are. >> so this is exactly to the point where both of these candidates should be talking about the economy and what they're going to do for the economy and not all these other issues and flinging things back-and-forth each other. they should stick to the economy he talked about republicans would be glad on the economy every day most happy about that. i seem to recall you say can we

just please can we just please no more more more dogs and cats? in ohio that speaking of dogs and cats, although not the ones in ohio, let's turn out of this if you only talk about childless people when you need a political punching bag on right-wing podcasts stop talking republican candidate for vice president would never attack a woman for having kids. so as they say, my work here is done with two guys who are this far away for being childless cat ladies congress to of course, the emmy's stage, j.d. >> vance childless cat lady remarks continue to stir up anger despite that others in trump's orbit seemed to be piling on during a townhall with donald trump yesterday, arkansas governor and our and former trump white house press

secretary. sarah huckabee sanders, said this about kamala harris you can walk into a room like this where people cheer when you step onto the stage and you might think for a second that you're special then you go home and your kids remind you very quickly you're actually not that big of a deal and ours are pretty good at it. >> my kids keep me humble unfortunately, kamala harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble very nice thing to say. well, i mean, i can tell you, my teenagers keep me humble and facts are going to take this performance today. i'm pretty sure to tell you. >> i have no issue with her saying your kids keep her humble. that is not the issue i feel listened the whole sarah huckabee sanders speech, i actually think that was taken a little bit out of context. >> i think that the broader context was more about her own experience, but let's get back

to this. this campaign needs to be very focused on. are you better off today than you were four years ago? is the border more secure than it was four years ago? and the trump campaign and the president, former president himself, half to laser-focus focus in on that. if they don't, they're going to be a listen of the most skilled communicators certainly in the party today, if not within the last generation, she knew precisely what she was saying and doing right there. >> it is an old tired saw about women that don't have kids. look, barbara boxer, the democrat, democratic senator, did it about condoleezza rice and hearing when she had her in front of her is what's made a point about. i know you don't have i guess, a husband and children or something like that. she knew exactly what she was doing, playing into it. and i don't think the audience was booing the comment. i think they're blowing kamala harris, they were in audit to why can't she got her name right? i just fundamentally don't understand why these republicans who are elected officials cannot get the vice

president fame, right? so that's the start second, why are we making it that women who do not have children are less than sand in this country. that is a horrible way to view women in general, and then to also then make them less than. and let's not forget, she has stepchildren. so it's not like she doesn't have a family at all. and i'm not that that matters, but johnson on the stepchildren because kerstin emhoff, who is doug emhoff's ex-wife, weighed in on this this morning in a tweet and she wrote but cole and ella, these are the stepchildren, kamala harris is stepchildren, doug emhoff's children with kerstin cole and ella keep us inspired to make the world a better place. i do it through storytelling. kamala harris has spent her entire career working for the people all families that keeps you pretty humble. >> vice president harris, his family shouldn't be an issue in the campaign. how your families doing in this economy has to be the thrust to the campaign. that's the, that's the message. >> if only your party would hire you to work on their messaging, we would not be sitting here talking about it because it is disgusting that an elected official was a governor of an entire state would like to continue to make women feel less than that, do

not have children. again, can not pronounce her name correctly as a sitting vice president, brad, you're trying to win a senate race in pennsylvania where women in chester county bucks county, are going to hear these kinds of things. it's going to be part of it it make your job tougher? now again, a campaign about the economy is pretty good. >> about border security is going to be good for republicans, personal shots are not going to work out. >> yes i mean, annie linskey, this part of part of why i think this has become so so much a part of the i mean, the j.d. vance comments on childless cat, ladies and the various iterations in the whole of this conversation has penetrated the culture in a way that a lot of the back-and-forth that we talk about here at this table, doesn't punch through right? like this is something that a lot more people to talk about, like normal people are aware of. and that makes it a little different will tell cars swift when she endorsed kamala harris, she had her cat with her. yeah. i mean, i didn't button know exactly exactly so

i mean, look, i think democrats have done a very good job of embracing it, but i, i've been perplexed as a political reporter as to why republicans continue to use this as an issue because it does not just older who want actual there are a lot of women who want to have children and, you know, access to things like ivf would help with that. >> and i think that you know, it's been surprising that this conversation has continued to come up because there are a lot of you know, that our flight of republican women who are nikki haley has been out there herself saying, look, when you do this, you are sending the wrong message that is perplexing women yeah. >> all right. i'll leave you with this my grandfather wishes he could be here. >> not of course. everyone gets 100 years but when someone does and uses that time to do good, it is worth celebrating array of celebrities paying tribute to america's 39th president, jimmy carter. last

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