the presidency the intrinsic value of these things. just as the shares is almost zero. and yet put trump's name on it and suddenly he is spun all this up and billions of dollars yeah. >> sounds like a familiar story. dan alexander. thank you thank you. thank you so much for joining us. the news continues right here on cnn outfront next, moving up a new swing state polls tonight show harris in the lead as a major fed interest rate cut could give another big boost the vice president, trump tonight calling foul plus springfield, ohio rocked by new bomb threats tonight. >> after trump's false claim about haitian migrants eating pets even the editor of the haitian times was targeted. what happened when she answered the door of her home? she's my guest tonight. >> and the one and only connie chung is outfront she doesn't hold back on barbara walters. >> and rather and revealing a surprise when we thought the interview was over. >> let's go outfront and good

evening. >> i'm erin burnett out front tonight. a swing state surge new polls this evening show the vice president's campaign is picking up speed and crucial battleground states. that includes pennsylvania, where kamala harris has now opened up a sixt point lead 51% to trump's 45. now, that is outside the margin of error in michigan, 50% of likely voters right now backing harris 45% trump. the race razor thin those still in wisconsin, just one point separating the two candidates. these three states are the exact same three that harris is targeting this week. she was just in pennsylvania tomorrow, michigan again, friday, wisconsin today, a major move by the fed that frankly could end up having implications of helping harris, the central bank cutting interest rates by half a point double what had been anticipated. and this is why that could be really important, right? interest rates go down, that has impacts for everyone but after the fed cuts rates on average, all the way back to

1974, the markets go up. markets have gone up by more than 5% after three months on average since 1974, 10% after six months, and 11% after a year. and that may be why trump is crying foul the economy to kind of buy that much so i mean, they're not just playing politics economy would be very bad, or they're playing politics. one of the other but there was a big guy well, do you know where trump was standing when he said that he happened to be inside a bar in new york city. so let me just go back to those swing state polls, including the one that i led the show with pennsylvania that has him losing by franklin overwhelming margin. a state that if harris wins and is really, really hard for her to lose the election, maybe you'd think trump would be in pennsylvania or another one of those swing states. but he was there in new york city. and as i speak, he's about to hold a rally in uniondale, new york now that area is a

republican stronghold. but of course that's just one area. the campaign says it's given out 60,000 tickets. right. so you can have a successful rally there, but here's the thing. trump lost new york by 20 percentage points in 20202016 so he's being delusional when he says this i love new york, i always love new york and we're going to give new york a big play. >> and i leave here i mean, you see the crowds and so friendly i love new york. >> i think we have a real chance of winning point spread, you know, maybe when biden was at the ticket that was actually they were starting to be some serious conversation. >> there really hasn't been any of that sense, but that may be why democrats are all too eager to welcome trump to new york state party chair tonight saying quote, i'd love to have i'm here because anytime he's a nassau county, he's not in pennsylvania. he's done it wisconsin and michigan. he's not an arizona, nevada, georgia, north carolina, so we can stay here. i think it's a real good use of his time. alayna treene is at the rally in uniondale where trump is going to appear in a few

moments. so alayna, why is trump in new york? >> well, erin, all of the questions that you are asking is exactly what i'm hearing, not just from democrats and others, but republicans as well. a lot but people are questioning why donald trump would just 48 days until election day is spending time in a state where his campaign recognizes that this is not a battleground. now before trump's part, he argues and insists continuous like that. he thinks he could win in new york. but in my conversations with donald trump's team, as well as his allies, they recognize that this is it's not a strategic move coming here today. instead, they told me that a lot of this, what's behind this visit is steeped in nostalgia of donald trump grew up in new york. he loves new york and he's always wanted to hold a large rally and a big arena in new york city or in new york itself particularly ever since he went to them bronx and did an event there in may and thousands of people came out to support him. now, i'll actually remind you, erin, that a couple of months ago, donald trump's team

actually talked about trying to do something at madison since square garden, of course, the logistics of that, the size of madison square garden just wasn't feasible. so this is kind of how they're settling here. but at the same time they record, they argue that this is close to a lot of media markets that it will get played and battleground states that this is a town where there's a lot of blue collar union but work for small business owners, so they're really going to be targeting trump with that and talking about the economy tonight and immigration if donald trump can stay on message. erin. >> all right, what we'll see what happens obviously they're big rally in nassau county. alayna, thank you very much all right. >> i'm joined by my panel, so let's go first to the former governor tim pawlenty and governor you've got harris ahead of trump in these new swing state polls and the pennsylvania numbers, obviously, i just kind of hit a pause there. obviously it's one poll, but they do sort of stop you in your tracks. governor because you know, if she wins pennsylvania she's gotten most cases has to win it to win. she has some other paths, but if

she does, when it is really hard for her to lose, are you worried, governor about polls like these? >> well, it does begin to show a trend that she's opened up a lead in this race. now, keep in mind trump traditionally under polls, most professionals would say by 123 or 4%. so that's still puts him within the margin of error, but i think it's fair to say she has a lead and going into this, he had an advantage on the issues that swing state voters care most about swing voters in those states care most about namely the economy, but really inflation and also illegal immigration. and he's been unable to fully focus well and effectively on those issues and he gets distracted by a lot of other stuff former congressman rose that those polls, and i know, you know, people can cherry-pick polls where everyone, but the governor is accurate, right? >> there has finot trend. >> and you're seeing it now, you're seeing it in swing polls. >> you're seeing it in more national polls. do you think she really has opened up a why a wider margin here? >> absolutely. look, it's not just about the actual margin in this one poll when it comes to

polls, particularly at this scale, you have to look at the trend and the momentum is denial on the vice president's side. and the only assumption that one could make is that momentum will continue to the next poll. you see a potentially even wider margin, but the governor also made a critical point there, which is in the past president trump has kind of under poll, there has been this silent trump voters that you can't even model. i would argue that this time around, that's going to be the case for the vice president with her significant momentum and messaging to gen z voters really young voters who aren't getting really young, they're not getting pulled, they're not being done, not the models they've never voted before. we could see the margin even larger. >> and that well, that would be quiet hey, something because that would be obviously in the us the way the u.s voter world is divided. that would be a huge victory lulu though within the poll's, the governor does point out immigration and the economy, right? and trump is ahead on those issues, even in these polls, the economy voters say is the most important

issue. harris is still trailing, trailing trump on that. the rate cut and i mean, i just was putting market performance after rate cut on average. know, you can delve into that in different ways. and trump is correct when he says when you do a rate cut double of what is expected, sometimes that indicates economic weakness that could also be true. but this rate cut really might matter yeah, it might matter. and i just want to note these numbers. i mean, let's think about what kamala harris was where biden was when we started all this and the race is really narrowed on these key issues. we're talking about. the economy she's only a few points behind him aggression, i would argue her weakest issue, only a few points behind. this does show that her messaging, her outreach has actually worked. and so i think first of all, they've got to be cheering this. i know it's only one poll, but, you know, this is going in the right direction. it's good news for them on the issue of the rate cuts. also

good news. i mean, that is why donald trump is alleging that this is politically motivated. of course there is no evidence of that. the fed has been very, very careful to message the whole time that the only thing that they're looking at is the data the politics of this, but of course, the politics matter. and this is something everyone i've been waiting for, and it's going to have a big effect. >> max, it comes on the day that the teamsters union says it's not going to endorse anyone which is significant. this is the first time that the teamsters union has not endorsed the democrat since 1988. okay. ancient history and their internal data show members backing trump over harris 60 to 34% that's trump over harris when it was biden and trump biden was winning i mean, that talk about a swing. sure. that is that is unbelievable. that makes all the rest of this look like absolutely nothing chump change what, what do you see there well, certainly for all the talk that we have, the euphoria around the harris campaign this

does represent an area of potential improvement down the road an area that she definitely needs to focus on. >> but this also speaks to something much larger than this election, which is politics in an age of trump, where you have literally the teamsters union coming out, not against but refusing to endorse the party that saved their pension in the american rescue plan fusing to oppose the party that opposed supporting their pension by voting against that very same bill. and a clash of economics and culture. and it's exactly what the democratic party needs to focus. >> governor pawlenty, when you look at this and, you know, teamsters union, i mean, that biden was winning over trump and now it's harris. trump is winning over harris 60 to 30, 34% i mean, governor is this about race and gender? what is this about when you look at a swing that huge well, my dad as a truck driver was a teamster. >> i've been a former union member myself. and for a lot of years now you can see the separation between these unions as organizations and the rank

and file people who are the members of those unions and trump for all of his other challenges, has been successful in some political jujitsu in attracting labor, the rank and file laborers to his campaign and in exchange, the democrats have picked up a folks who are more highly educated, more woke or whatever if you talk to the rank and file people who are driving around in vans and trucks with ladders and doing the work of hard labor in this country and you talk to them individually they are very skeptical of a leftward lurch in the country. one of them told me not too long ago after being working on his hands and knees his whole life with arthritic hands. he said you know, i was in the military. i've worked my can off my whole life and i'm not voting democrat this time as a lifelong a democrat this time because they think i'm privileged just because of the color of my skin that's one little glimpse into how the democrats lost rank and file labor. >> i would disagree with that. i mean, nine out of ten years unions of the major unions in

this country has endorsed kamala harris, the teamsters, i think stands apart from many reasons, it is a more conservative leaning union. and in particular, trump has been successful with men and, you know, not all members of union our men, if you think about in nevada the union there, the culinary workers union and others. i mean, there is this idea that laborers working with your hands, that's a very traditional idea of what labor is in this country. but there are many service workers and others in this country than don't see things the same way. >> all right. well, thank you all very much. i appreciate it and appreciate the conversation. and next, we were just talking about the teamsters, tim walz is kamala harris is secret weapon with one key group of voters. who are they were going but to delve into this in the latest of our voters outfront series, plus israel declaring a new era of war, two-way radios exploding today after thousands and thousands of pagers blew up in people's hands and pockets

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here's how he puts it. >> how is she going to sit in a room with vladimir putin and xi jinping? how is she going to sit in a room with the adversaries of america if she won't even sit down for a friendly media interview it comes as harris is turning to tim walz to help cut into a crucial source of donald trump's support. >> men. and jeff zeleny is in north carolina for tonight's voters glass ceiling aren't enough. we need to make sure that that glass ceiling is shattered and kamala harris, stepson tim walz is hard at work on one of his most important assignments. >> you thought kamala harris can take care of herself? our job is to do the blocking and tackling and cover her back. >> he and his running mate rarely discussed gender, yet the gender gap may help decide the election strong support from women has put kamala harris within reach of defeating donald trump

48 days to go, her campaign is racing to win over another critical set of voters, men it'll be phenomenal to have the first female president and that's exciting also donald trump is a strong president. >> you know, he gets things done sir, are you undecided undecided yeah i. didn't, know comme la was so well well-spoken you know, that was a change from biden anthony hernandez at 36-year-old north carolina voter is among them those at the center of an intense tug of war his ultimate decision holds clues for november the trump campaign is working to widen its advantage with male voters parole, particularly young men with the former president deploying old school muscle a far different approach to chip away at trump's edge with walz speaking directly to husbands and fathers. >> do you want jd? ed vance

deciding about your wife and daughters help his frequent were torn on abortion rights, mind your own damn business struck a chord with tobi pearce, who saw walz tuesday night in asheville. if none of your damn business yes, my model now that's a wonderful way to talk about the whole abortion and reproductive rights at a rain-soaked rally, alex vigil and kevin miller said, they believe trump exhaustion could helped democrats make inroads with men and women alike, seeing a lot less trump flags in our parking lot, see a lot more of my staff who used to be for trump a little more excited or a little pushing trump away. i'm hoping that it's going to be a surprise will be a lot more men than we think this t-shirt was a gift to bruce sergeant from his daughter after trump was first elected, he knows he's in the minority when it comes to how many men vote, we're going to rely on a lot of the winning cherry now, but men just need you to stand behind feminine coming out with them. >> it's an open question. just how many men will do that, even those here like stanley,

benedict, not fully enamored with trump plan to vote for him. >> he's got a big, ego. and sometimes it's sold to big who still, to this horror lot. but i support him because of he proved from self while the outcome of the trump harris dual may turn on the gender gap or the balance of whom men and women support in this election, gender itself is far less a part of the discussion. >> kamala harris isn't talking about the historic nature of this. >> you just put your nose down and doesn't so what zeleny with me now. >> so jeff, what more are you learning about the campaign strategies to target men? because obviously when you look at these polls right now, i mean this is, this is crucial group that women are the lifeblood of the harris campaign and candidacy, but it is men who could put her over the top. >> that is why the trump campaign is also aggressively going after untold almost exclusively men in terms of

persuasion, in terms of trying to win over over some voters who may not have been paying attention to the race and young voters, young men are at the center of both campaigns strategies. there is no question about that. so look for over the next seven weeks or so, some unconventional strategies in terms of advertising and reaching out to some of these young men. but erin, of course, women are key for turning out and a certainly a senior voters always come out to vote. the younger voters, not so much. >> but there is no doubt that women are powering this election, but men could be decisive aaron. all right. jeff zeleny. thank you very much. in north carolina now he's swing state and that's new bomb threats in springfield, ohio tonight, even the editor of the haitian times, who doesn't live anywhere near springfield is being targeted. she joins me here next to tell me exactly what happened when her doorbell unexpectedly rang plus thousands of two-way radios. now exploding one one day after thousands of beepers blew up. and tonight i'll, taiwan is

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these claims were false before the debate the springfield city manager telling the wall street journal that he talked to someone from j.d vance's staff saying, quote, talking about this conversation, he the guy from jd vance's staff who called them. he asked point blank, are the rumor is true of pets being taken and eaten? city manager applies. i told him no, i told him these claims were baseless but still, this viral tweet even now remains on vance's twitter page. quote, reports now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country and i remember what i said on the timeline here, the jd vance's staff called on the day of the debate to find out whether this is true still, we do know that donald trump went on to the debate stage after that phone call happened and said this in springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there

now this false story is now putting lives in danger even outside of ohio, and editor of the haitian times has become the most recent target because of her coverage of what's happening in springfield macollvie neel is outfront now and mckelvey. thank you very much as i said, i'm sorry to be meeting you under these circumstances to even be talking about this hour. reliable sources first reported your story so two days ago, you're at home and your doorbell rings you go and you answer your door. you're thinking maybe this is a delivery of some sort and what happens when you open the door and thank you so much for having me and keeping a spotlight on this issue. so to go back to monday morning, i'm starting my day and i hear the doorbell ring a couple of times. i'm thinking, oh, it's a delivery. i have to go pick up a package i opened the door by then i see police had surrounded my house on both sides. there were cruisers outside and when i asked why they were there, they were asking me, who am i, what am i doing in my own home and

proceeded to tell me that they were looking for that received a call of someone that someone had had their throats slit in side my address and so they were looking for the potential perpetrator. and so that was the basis of what they called a wellness check. >> so swatting incident. but someone exactly exactly. >> meaning that someone had gone to the trouble of doing what's called doxing, finding my documents and sharing it somewhere and that precipitated the call to the police to come and scare me, intimidate me because of the stories we had been doing in the haitian times and a community conversation we had had in springfield, ohio just on saturday you're the editor of the haitian times. you were born in haiti, are naturalized american citizen you had you been really scared in that moment though mckelvey yes. >> i was alarmed, but i kind of

knew i had a premonition because we had been getting emails and and just really vile racist threads, emails and threats and messages on our, on our stories and our comments. and so we tried to stay focused. this is a story that we have been following now for at least three years, ever since we had a group of haitians begin to arrive for the president's assassination through all of the different tps extensions that took place because of certain disasters that happened in haiti. we knew that these folks are brothers and sisters would end up somewhere in america that wasn't necessarily going to be in new york city or miami or boston, which are traditional enclaves and so we committed to just following haitians across the heartland over the past year-and-a-half, almost two years or so. and we had heard these incidents of bullying, intimidation all of you do

stuff we have been covering it i just didn't expect it to come and follow me home so j.d. >> vance, we just laid it out how that they j.d. vance and trump have been saying this and jd vance's office called and was told it was untrue on the day of the debate. he continues to say at trump said it at the debate here's how j.d. vance defended himself when our dana bash asked him a question about it the american media totally ignored this stuff until donald trump and i start talking about cat memes. if i have to, if i have to create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people then that's what i'm going to do if i have to create stories, it's worth it, is what he's saying. he's one of you is one of those me the fight that he says, if i have to create stories to defend the american people is telling me that he doesn't see haitians as people or as american people, whatever that means. the fact of the

matter is that americans are immigrants. every single person in this country came from somewhere else. and so as much as the right-wing republicans, that entire machinery might try to deny it or reject it, or try to say, we have a specific person that's considered american it's not going to stand because that is not the history of the country. they can deal an alternative facts. all they want. but the fact is americans built immigrants, built this country and we continue to build this it's country. my family helped build this country when we came here 35 years ago. i've seen it happen in brooklyn in new jersey all up and down the east coast. and now it's happening in the midwest because that's where the need is. that's where we have the jobs, you know, to fulfill they can try to deny it, but this is the fact and i really hope that americans who are good people who are

sensible people, like many of the folks in springfield, continue to engage with the new commerce in the ways that we've always engaged without all this extremism going into their heart, right? >> well, mcafee, thank you very much. i appreciate your taking the time. like i said, sorry to meet you under these circumstances, but thank you for doing that. next more devices exploding this time to two-way radios, israel calling it a new era of war barr but how exactly are they doing it? we have a special report with new details next, plus legendary journalist connie chung is my guest and she's telling all, including how well a battle between barbara walters and diane sawyer affected her career they were battling each other for the big interviews that i had to stand and down mono warner was overwhelming. he idea that this fictional character they're playing any role in politics is bananas tv on the edge, moments that shaped our culture, premieres sunday at nine on cnn.

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investigations from the middle east to europe, to asia in urgent race to find out how simple communication devices long abandoned by most of the world ended up in lebanon becoming explosive, deadly weapons getting into thousands of pagers and planting explosives, detonators switches, and the rest of it. >> and not changing the way to the pagers very much is a complicated operation and shows extraordinary technical ability lebanese security source says militant group hezbollah bhatt, the pagers in recent months using them ironically to prevent israel and the u.s. >> from tracking their communications israel planted explosives next two each pagers battery along with a detonation switch in new york times reported citing us and other officials, thousands of beepers grew up tuesday, all receiving this dame message at the same time the pagers have the name

ar-924, made by gold apollo a time when he's company that calls its product extremely robust and durable, 85 days of battery life fully charging in two-and-a-half hours, a senior taiwanese security official tells cnn, taiwan has no record of gold apollo pagers being shipped to lebanon. records do show gold apollo shipped about 260,000 pagers from taiwan, mainly to the u.s. and australia over the past two-and-a-half years cnn went to the company headquarters in new taipei city. we saw investigators going in and out. we also talked to the ceo. he strongly denies making the explosive pagers bearing his company's name i have been in this industry for a long time. i don't want this to ruin our brand. >> he blames this hungarian distributor, bac consulting, claiming gold apollo sold them the rights to use its brand name cnn tried reaching bac, no response as families does dead

and lebanon say goodbye lucky to have you. my love says the mother of 9-year-old, fatima the pager went off as she was doing her homework on the first day of elementary school her parents were outside, they left the pager on the table. she heard the sound, got up, checked it, but overall these attacks were really surgically precise. a lot of people were in the same room and survived even when saying one-off right next to them, maybe even killing the person next to them, disrupting enemy communications. aaron is a key military tactic before an invasion, israel now says they're shifting focus north to target hezbollah. and these tactics, as you said at the top, they might change warfare as we know it actually targeting communication devices instead of using traditional bombs yes this truly stunning. >> all right. thank you very much. will ripley next, connie chung is outfront and she has a surprise to tell us about can i just throw in one little special thing?

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>> because well, you know, no currently and i go way back to when she was the channel two back in l.a. and i used to have a big crush on her that is why you do it. >> why the publicity. >> oh, i hate the position. oh, come on. >> you. i hate the police. >> and that's our news. we'll keep you informed throughout the night here on cbs with any late developments. i'm connie chung in new york. i'll see you again next sunday night and. >> award-winning journalist connie chung joins me now. it's such an honor. and this book is incredible. so we look at all those moments that you had and obviously you're a trailblazer first woman to co-anchor cbs evening news, as i said, first asian to anchor a major news broadcast. and it is today, 2024 where we are for the first time seeing the first black, first asian woman to be on the top of a ticket for president in the united states are you thinking are you surprised that it took this long or is this what you

thought it would be i always am surprised when when women make it up the ladder it's always a big shock to me because we have not reached the level of pain 30 and we'll see what happens. >> i don't you know, i don't know sitting here, what will happen and it is fraught with danger for me to go there. >> you know. >> i know right for sure your point of view. >> i'll note okay. she's such a good news person. can i just say erin, i watch you every night and i think you're just rocking good. you're good journalist and you're very good broadcaster. and you so frequently and smart that you ask the right questions. county when i and your words are incredibly kind, but this is about you and all these moments that you had that inspired me and so many others. >> and there's another incredible moment i want to

play for you. the cameras are chasing you like they chased oj simpson with the famous bronco on cnn. the cameras are chasing you and an anchor literally tracks your moves. you, connie chung, let me play the moment we found i think i know it as we continue here, you're looking at a live shot of a ranch outside modesto, california where the interview with congressman khandan and abc's connie chung is taking place alright, so that they're not racking you is amazing. this is gary. i mean, that was the gun he speaking out about. it was a fair with the intern chandra levy, who went missing eventually is found dead. and this was a huge moment for you. i want to play one of the most important moments that interview can you describe your relationship? >> what exactly was your relationship with chandra levy? >> well, i meant chandra last october and we became very close i met her in washington, dc, very close, meaning we had a close relationship. i liked her very much now i asked you

was. it >> well, county i've been married for 34 years and i've not been a perfect manner how important was that? >> that interview in that moment in your career well, it was it was a it was a period in which i had been at abc news and frankly, i wasn't allowed to go after big gets because there were two women happen to be women strong woman, but yeah and they were battling each other for the big interviews. >> so i had to stand down so this one was a big one but i was told that if any interview went to gary condit, it would be barbara and so i said, okay. and then when i called continents lawyer and said i take me off the.

was a good good girl when it came to barbara because i think she created a niche in her career that i should not touch her. she earned her diva dumb. i mean, she she could push me off the plank and i'd be fine so what the lawyer said if you don't do the interview for abc, i'm gonna give it to somebody else. so in marched up to the president of abc news and said, near nobody. and he went, okay and you got it. >> now. all right. so barbara walters, i just want to ask you about her because you write about her. and of course, as you journalists and watching all of this as i was growing up, i was eating that part up. but you write about always quote unquote, being under her, those were the words that you use. you're talking about it here. how did that affect you? >> it was okay with me because i really believed that she pays the path, paves the driveway

for all of us i respected her tremendously i did not want to try to take her off her thrown if he didn't if she wanted to do something. i was okay. for the millennial coverage. i was supposed to. i was assigned to go to paris and i was like, wow, rocket paradox harris. the eiffel tower and my whole family, murray and my daughters, so and our sun, we are all going and their husbands they are children. and then a vice president, it came down to see me and said connie barbara wants to go to paris. and i said, so where my glory, if he said las vegas all k, there's a mini eiffel tower in las vegas incredible how grace issue could be that you could see that as something that was not something that you resent it she also didn't have a lot of

things in her life as she talked about later that she would have liked to have had and she made those sacrifices and you talk about that in your own life. you know that you almost didn't have a child because i forgot to get married. then i forgot to have a baby and i mean, you didn't write you know, i don't know how you did it but you had babies and you had a career how do you do that remember before i had either a husband or children and this show is launching. >> i was engaged and you came to the launch party. you and mari sure. you came. and i remember that moment. it county i think about it often because when you wrote about your decision to get married, your struggles to have a child when you finally made that decision and you wrote of more, he has been my foundation, my support being my partner at my love in every way. and i actually love this part i love more with all my heart but sometimes, you know, i don't necessarily like them but i do remember that

launch party and that was the part of you that sit out the most to me that i said, i want that wasn't just that i admired you. of course but it was, you know, you want the whole thank yes. >> what is the most important achievement in your life so far i have to say it's my son he's a good guy yes. matthew. it happened a certain. deeply it was certainly pretty i was dumped from the cbs evening news. and i've felt like my life was left on the desk. you know, i had to walk away they offered me as something else, but i had to figure out whether or not i wanted to stay and so two days after i was stumped, we got the call that our adoption was going to go through and i was and my sister are the cliche. one door closes, another door opens.

>> she was so right he was in my arms when he was less than a day old like 16, 18 months and, you know, he became a part of my arm forever. so when you talk about the firing from cbs and what that meant, but that opened up the greatest thing in your life. it's always at the moment it didn't feel that way you were sitting there with dan rather for two years daily tensions so that it all came to a head in oklahoma city? yeah. when you went to cover, you were the first one there, 168 people were killed. that horrific attack and then you were fired? >> yep. soon after that, you write my very chinese reaction was to feel i had lost face. >> yes. all the joy of reaching my ultimate goal had evaporated in one incident and in that moment, i also recognize that my entire life had been wrapped up in my work. and how much it was a part of me now, obviously, then you opened up the greatest thing in your life. but at that moment, it was clear to you that it was about you're race your gender

how did it change you when you were confronted with that, right in the face you think it was i mean, it's hard for me to wrap it, up and say it was because i was a woman or because i was chinese. >> i think i think the truth of the matter is is that if if dan rather he had own that seat, he had been woke her car seat by himself for that long and he had to move over a few inches to give me half of the chair and what that would be hard regardless of who you zach? yes. i mean, you know, to that point about gender i think it would be unfair to say that's all it was exactly. >> yeah. i think that if i were a man or a plant, he still would have not wanted that thing. there to share your

family history is riveting. i said your book is its history, its personally it's everything. i know you are great child. yes. your parents, tenth child and you talk about how making the family name something became a goal for your father. then you find out that you actually did make your name something except for it wasn't the family name. it was your first name? an entire generation of asian-american women now are named connie and we have a message for you from one of them, you too. >> oh my gosh. >> hi, connie it's connie, my parents immigrated to the united states. >> and your face on their television said was a real source of comfort and confidence and i was two when i thought you were really pretty ayyy but when it was time to come pick out a name, an american name for myself, there was only one real choice and that was connie. so on behalf of all the colonies that came after you and every person or woman who were moved by seeing

you on their television sets. >> thank you. >> i can't believe it flabbergasted mario always told me i was the jackie robinson of news and time. but he says, you see people named their children jackie and willie mays. willie, they've made willy. that's you. thought oh, man i hate it when your right well connie yeah, the original the one and only and so many ways to all of those kinase. thank you. it is an honor for me to be able to sit in a chair like this and be talking do you aaron you know what? it's a real honor for me to because i really think you're the journalist who can carry the baton. i think a barbara walters always wanted someone to carry the baton and you are can i just throw in one

little special thing? yes. said occurred erin, i have a strain of we'd named after me connie chung weed? yes. >> i mean it doesn't get any better than have you tried it you have to go just during his a time oh, we guard. erin i have to go your pulling a gary condit on me gady. >> thank you. >> wonderful. what can i tell you? you you you can get a five pack pre-roll for only $22. do you know if that's good or bad? >> what you're trying to find out if i would, i actually don't know. >> i don't either well, we will try it. >> all right. i guess on that note, we'll leave this enemy not where anybody thought it would go now, and that's what happens when you have connie thanks so much to county can and hope everyone will read connie a memoir. it is out now