years, propublica found the family learned thurman's case had been reviewed and deemed preventable from propublica is reporting her family? no idea? correct. she has a young son. would now who's lost his mother. she would have turned as you guys point out, 31-years-old just recently? that's gutting correct it is. >> it's it's very difficult you know, to grapple with the faces of the harm here. these are two women who are mothers, candi miller had three children. he died in bed with her three-year-old with her amara thurman has for year-old son that now family members are raising the maternal mortality rate in georgia is among the highest in the nation, three times higher for collar how many other stories like this do you think are out there don't really know. >> we we all we have to go buy are the days before roe. there

were hundreds of deaths from what was then called septic abortion, propublica is very interested in hearing from family members of loved ones we have died while pregnant, may be unable to access care. they may have had chronic conditions like candi miller who had lupus were very interested in looking at these cases doing what we can to uncover the real causes. we think there needs to be more transparency among state maternal mortality boards which operates two years behind. so who knows how many cases are out there we would like to know no matter the decision, the political decisions made at those at the state level, the transparency of what is happening within the state is important for everyone when they're making decisions on this thank you so much, eva, and your team's great reporting. it is deserving for everyone to read both of these articles. and i'm sure there'll be more to come to get a feel of this. thank you very much. a new hour of cnn news central starts now

just called the best polling for kamala harris arguably of the entire campaign, not the national polling you're seeing right there, but pages and pages of new battleground polls breaking overnight, check your car loans and credit cards, what you pay, going down. >> and then a sharp drop in fatal drug overdoses hitting their lowest levels in three years. what is behind this promising trend? sarah sidner is out, i'm john berman with kate baldwin and this is cnn new central overnight, we got tons of new polling from battleground states. let me get right to it because these are the stays safe. everyone is watching the most closely. let's talk about pennsylvania here. we have three polls up here. they're

actually five out. they all showed directionally mostly the same thing. you see the new york times sienna poll shows harris with a four point lead in pennsylvania. marris shows a tide quinnipiac, a six-point lead there was a franklin or martial poll out that showed harris for three points. a washington post poll at one point, take away from this the average harris slightly up, maybe according to this new polling in pennsylvania. this isn't moving other important states. i want you to look at here. you have wisconsin and michigan marris shows a one-point edge in wisconsin, quinnipiac, a one-point edge that's basically tied in wisconsin and michigan, harris up five in marris, up five and quinnipiac again in these three polls and polls, we've seen what you basically see is a very slight edge for harris maybe in pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin why is that important? well, it may be frankly everything. this is the race to 270, the race to 270 electoral votes. these yellow

states are the states right now that are frankly too close goes hall toss-up states. if you look at this new polling which may show a slight edge for harris and pennsylvania, michigan in wisconsin, look at that, those states and just those states give her 270 electoral votes and would give her the election no matter what, even if donald trump won in north carolina, georgia, arizona, and nevada, that would be enough. still, these three states alone for harris to now, of course you could say if trump wins any one of these states, even wisconsin, which has the fewest electoral votes among them. he would then, win the election. but again, the story here right now is these states in and of themselves would be enough a clear path to 270 electoral votes for kamala harris. >> let's use this the jumping off point and talk about these polls we're seeing senior editor for the atlantic, cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein, and national political correspondent at political meridith mcgraw.

thanks guys, meredith polls galore, john lays it out perfectly so we don't have to sum it up one more time. what? are the campaign's likely to do with this data today polls galore, we'd been waiting to see what would happen after the debate if harris was going to get some sort of bump after the square off between trump and harris. >> but both of these campaigns are going to be engaged in a kind of the trench warfare politically speaking, in these battleground states, as they spend a lot of time, a lot of cattle visiting the states, getting more voter data to figure out exactly who they need to be tailoring their message to with just seven weeks left until the november election. >> on one piece, you're looking closer at this, this trend among college and non-college white women in each state. what do you see? >> yeah. you know, as mitt romney would put it, we have cross tabs full of women hi,

that jump out. >> but a goodie, an oldie, but goodie. >> look, these are states in which there is a significant pro-choice majority that support abortion rights. pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. and in 2022, the democratic gubernatorial candidates in the first race, postdocs obs, ran better than biden did just two years earlier, both among college and non-college white women in those states. and of course, all three democratic governor candidates, one in this new quinnipiac polling, and even in the marris polling which i was just scribbling on right before we came on the air. harris is largely holding that improvement that we saw in 2022 for democrats, both among the college and the non non-college, white women, which makes it very difficult for trump to have the math add up especially because she's even improving among the college white men. the only place where he's running very strongly in these polls is among the non-college white men and

improving interestingly, among black men but those college white women, there are much bigger share of the electorate in these three states than the black men and the non-college white women are even bigger. yet, one last point, kate, it's really important to remember that since 19 at these three states have voted together in every presidential election, except one, they even voted the same way for governor in every election since 1994, except one. and if you look just at michigan and pennsylvania, they voted the same way in the presidential election every time except once for the last 80 years. and that that was when michigan had their native son, gerald ford on the ballot. they tend to move together. they're very similar demographically, economically, culturally, and that's why they are the principal areas of focus for the campaigns, both in time and money. once again, in 2024, front won't quit real quick on that because i've been reading and enjoying your analysis when it comes to this. if they don't, this time, what does that tell us about where these

states are going well pennsylvania has become a little bit harder for democrats and the other two. >> if you look since 2000 michigan, every election since 2000 has been the best for the democrats out of the three of these. and once again, in this polling, it looks like michigan is the best. once again, it just kind of opened up a little bit of a lead there. but you know, in 2020, biden is showing among blue collar white voters was weaker in pennsylvania than the other to his showing in midsize cities was weaker in pennsylvania than the other two. i don't think i fully understand all the reasons for that, but what i think would be that the de-industrialization has been even more profound and pennsylvania than in michigan and wisconsin. i mean, there is still a functioning auto industry. there billions of dollars being invested in transitioning to the ev revolution. there is not a really functioning steel industry or call all industry in western pennsylvania. so the loss might even be greater and thus their receptivity to trump's kind of message of

both cultural and economic grievance, even more profound than definitely i conversation for us to have now and after the lunch and meredith 101 quote from tim lawyer, he's the quinnipiac university of polling analysts he wrote three crucial swing states. we have a red flag at the trump campaign. the gop's most go-to attack strategies against democrats on immigration and the economy, may be losing momentum likely voters now see little daylight in most cases between harris and trump on who can best handle those key issues if she is gaining on the economy, let's just say that remains what does that mean for strategies and the shifting nature of the strategies that are needed for where harris and trump are defending and attacking the blocking and tackling this election we've seen consistently that

trump has fared better in polls on those two key issues. >> but you're right harris is starting to get closer to trump on them. and in some cases has edged him out. and for trump in his case, campaign, they keep pushing him with these policy events where they set him up to talk about the economy. but sometimes he goes off the rails and what he talks about and having some sort of message discipline is something that i keep hearing from trump allies about his campaign. but the quinnipiac poll is specially should have some red blinking lights for them in terms of how they should be communicating with these voters on the ground, i will say too with harris, something we keep hearing though, is that she too needs to articulate her policies a little bit more clearly. >> and what she stands for in terms of her economic policies versus the biden administration. >> but i think we're going to i continue to see that play out in the next several weeks as both these campaigns tried to make their case on both the

economy, on immigration i am starting to, i'm starting to wonder how detailed the harris campaign thinks they really need to be to go when it comes to policy for the remainder of this election, but will say it's great to see you guys. thank you so much. >> john all right. iranian hackers infiltrated the trump campaign's emails and sent them unsolicited to president biden's team. got new reporting on this this morning. how soon could you feel the impacts of the first interest rate cut by the fed? and for years and homes literally melted look at that. i'm melting after a pipeline burst into flames >> to the birth, mono want to so it was overwhelming. >> the idea that this fictional character played any role in politics is bananas, tv telling the edge moments that shaped our culture, premieres sunday at nine on cnn one. remember, i

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pack as couple of years with interest rates over 5%. >> but we can break it down category by category. >> when i mean, you have a car loan, you have a credit card, you saving money today, tomorrow. your next bill are going to start to come down pretty quickly on credit cards, specifically the average interest rate right now is 23%, half a point is not going to make a difference. you want to do better on your credit card. you need just shop around for a credit card that has a lower interest rate and the consumer financial protection bureau actually alerted people that the 25 largest credit card issuers have rates that are eight to ten points higher than you can typically get at a credit union or a community bank so if you're suffering under those interest rates, this half a percentage point, not going to mean that much for you similarly, on an auto loan,

the best deals or not found by financing through a manufacturer at today's rates, the best deals are found either by refinancing, again at a credit union or somebody making a better rate or by going with a deal that is offering some sort of a break on manufacturers financing similarly with those savings rates, they're going to start to fall pretty quickly. and so if you've had your money lockdown abene, 5% high-yield savings account that that's going to come down to four-and-a-half percent. and with each successive rate cut, come down again. and so if you want to maintain those rates, now's the time to start looking at perhaps locking your money up in a cd for a year or two or however long? it is until you need that money. >> yeah, some of those easy savings decisions will be changing 5% was a pretty easy

decision for a lot of people in terms of how to save. but man, when you say that credit card interest rate 23%, it takes your breath away. credit card debt is just so insidious for so many people how about your own power? well, the way he spoke about the economy and how the fed is going to approach it the next several months or even years, how will that impact people in their everyday lives? >> look, he was very frank about the fact that they are going to go meeting by meeting. but if you look at the progression, what we're expecting is that by the end of the year interest rates will come down to about 4.4% next year, we're looking at 3.6% in 20262 points 9% that the big thing that everybody is watching here is the housing market. the housing market has just been locked up because 89% of people have mortgage rates under 6% makes it very, very difficult for them to move and get themselves into a new thing

30 year loan. that's going to cost them more money than that as rates start to fall, we expect to see the housing market start to ease up a little bit. people will start to move around. there'll be able to unlock some of that value that they've got in those homes that have appreciated that it should spur some spending as people take out, he locks and start to use some of that money. so that should benefit the consumer overall. >> all right, jean chatzky, always great to speak with you. thanks so much for being with us this morning. >> alright. never back down, never admit fault. never apologize. new reporting this morning on what axios's calling zero, shame a strategy of j.d. vance and then staggering statistic shows just how many golf balls get lost each and every every year i was going to surprise you, but i just gave away the surprise is billions. billions, billions of

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reduced his stress. so why wouldn't we be it's three things i can change it and wife, i'm not changed sexual orientation of not changing the political party we're going to go to the house with what we got here. >> okay. >> car saturday, october 5th on cnn tonight, kamala harris is holding what the campaign hopes will be a huge virtual rally with oprah, winfrey. >> they will be in detroit, but more than more than 90,000 people are expected to tune in on one hi with a group known as wind with black women as for making the case for white men, the harris campaign strategy to build that coalition is taking new shape. here's jeff zeleny cracks in the glass ceiling are to enough. >> we need to make sure that that glass ceiling has shattered and kamala harris, stepson tim walz is hard at work on one of his most important assignments. you

thought? >> kamala harris can take care of herself? our job is to do the blocking and tackling and cover her back. >> he and his running mate rarely discussed gender, yet to gender gap may help decide the election. strong support from women has put kamala harris within reach of defeating donald trump racing to win over another critical set of voters, men. >> it'll be phenomenal to have the first female president. and that's exciting. also, donald trump is a strong president. you know he gets things done. >> anthony hernandez at 36-year-old north carolina voter among, those at the center of an intense tug of war is ultimate decision holds clues for november, or are you undecided undecided. >> yeah, i didn't know common-law, so well-spoken, you know, that was a change from biden the trump campaign is working to widen its advantage with male voters overall

particularly young men with a former president deploying old school muscle a far different approach to chip away at trump's edge with walz speaking directly to husbands and fathers. do you want j.d vance deciding about your wife and daughters help? >> his frequent were torn on abortion rights. >> mind your own damn business struck a chord with tobi pearce, who saw walz tuesday night in asheville. if none of your damn business is my model now that's a wonderful way to talk about the whole abortion and reproductive rights had a rain-soaked rally, alex vigil in kevin miller, said they believe trump exhaustion could help democrats make inroads with men and women alike, seeing a lot less trump flags in our parking lot, see a lot more for my staff who used to for trump a little more excited or a little pushing frep away. >> i'm hoping that it's going to be a surprise of a lot more men than we think it's t-shirt

was a gift to bruce sergeant from his daughter after trump was first elected, he knows he's in the minority when it comes to how many men vote we are going to rely on a lot of the women show you now, but men just need you to stand behind me in and come out with them. it's an open question. just how many men will do that, even those here like stanley, benedict, not fully enamored with trump plan to vote for him. >> he's got a big ego and sometimes it's still to big. he seemed to this horror a lot, but i support them because proved himself while the outcome of the trump harris dual may turn on the gender gap or the balance of who men and women support in this election, gender itself is far less apart of the discussion. kamala harris isn't talking about the historic nature of this. she just put your nose down that's the word and jeff zeleny is with us. jeff, that's a great look we always love hearing from voters talk to me about there's a slew of new polling that's come out and some of it

shows, is showing just how wide the gender gap is and the challenges that it presents for both in a race that could be won or lost on the margins men, or if this center of those margins take a look at those new polls you just mentioned the new, new york times sienna college poll nationally looking at women versus men, harris versus trump, you can see the difference there for harris. >> 14 point split for trump, a twelve-point split that is why the harris campaign is trying to eke out just a bit more support among men. they know they are not going to win men overall. they're trying to drive turnout up among women of course, but even if percentage or two could change the equation here. the trump campaign of course, also trying to do the same thing. so as we near the closing chapter of this race, women of course, are powering this campaign but it could be men who helped decided kate. >> great to see jeff. thank you. >> jeff is in asheville, north carolina, not far from the

smoky mountains. i've done he is live shot before and we've talked about this. i mean, it's so foggy were lucky. we can see what all right there this morning but it's still beautiful, john well. you are mutable. jeff zeleny. thank you so much i think there is an obsession of john berman when it comes to the weather at certain live lot at live shot location patients over the course of campaigns because like this memory that's painful memory of like gma control and produces yelling abbey, we can see it was so foggy but obviously much nicer here at cnn. >> thank you very much for being with us, jeff with this doubt republican strategist, former senior adviser to tim scott's presidential campaign, matt gorman, also with us democratic strategist, julie roginsky. >> i want to shift gears if i can here because axios wrote something overnight that really raised my attention. >> it talks it's about jd vance's zero shame strategy. in this has to do with the fact that donald trump announced he is going to go to springfield,

ohio. he claims the next two weeks axios says advance and it has to do i think also with just this, these claims about pets in springfield, axios says backed into a corner over his baseless claims of haitian pet eating and ohio senator j.d. vance is taking a page from donald trump's playbook. never backed down, never admit fault. never apologize. what do you think about that? >> you know that royal family motto, never complain, never explain for j.d. vance and donald trump always complain and never explain. that's all they do. they complain and complain and complain. but they never explained what they're doing and why they're doing it. j.d vance represents springfield, ohio in the senate. he is there senator and yet he's exploiting these poor people for his own political benefit, knowing full well because he admitted it here on cnn to dana bash that the whole thing is invented. nobody's eating cats, nobody's eating dogs. but yet springfield is having real terrorists, bomb threats to their schools. to their city hall all over the place. and he's the senator

from ohio and i have to keep asking if this is how he's going to treat his own constituents in ohio, what's he going to do to the rest of us if he gets into power, it's terrifying. >> then met there's the raw political question of how if at all, is it's still helping kate read this before from tim loy, from the quinnipiac that paul, it's intereteresting. he says three crucial swing states, rave, red flag of the trump campaign momentum likely voters now see daylight in most cases between little daylight, i should say, between harris and trump on who can best handle the key issues of immigration and the economy the idea that basically trump may have an advantage on immigration, but it's not what it was. so if they reached the limit of what they get by leaning into these what seemed to be lies at a springfield, ohio think a lot of this also is a post-debate bump from harris said a little gi expected both nationally and in the states. i want to see maybe another week or to see if things kind of calm down a little bit and look, we talked about never

explaining the key point. i think julie said it was he said on cnn, also an axios today was affect the harris and walz never give interviews they never explain any of the things they say. we have barely heard from them from the debate and they're trying to run out the clock on a lot of this stuff. look, you get the least talk to vance, you get to hear him explain, defend whatever you want to say about these things. you're right. he doesn't back down and a lot of these things, but at least he is actually talking to you, unlike harris and walz okay. i mean, whether or not talking and saying things that are untrue, if that's beneficial that's a value judgment right there, but i will put up this graphic. you were just talking about matt because it is interesting. you know, donald trump has done press conferences, interviews j.d. vance, 59 times harris, three walz four. i will note that a lot of the conversations that trump and vance have are with like fox and friendly outlets. not all of them. trump does press conference as well. j.d. vance certainly does interviews. julie how many more opportunities are there to if there are no more debates? how much opportunities harris

really have to reach voters between now and election day. if she's not going to do more interviews. >> well, what i've said is that i think harris should go out there and walz to do interviews so the local media, right. because she needs to go to pennsylvania, she should go and do it. the allentown media markets, you should go and do it in the phoenix media market in the detroit media market, and so on. to reach those voters that she needs to read and talk specifically that issues that impact them, right? because the rest of us don't know what needs to be done in allentown, pennsylvania specifically for for example, in north hampton county, pennsylvania, to really improve their quality of life the way that local anchors do. and i think she's missing an opportunity if she doesn't go do more of those. and i think that's something that i hope they can pain will do in the near future. >> but i'll also say this look, trump and vance are flooding the zone for sure with a lot of bs >> it's not like they're going out there and telling us what they're going to do other than making stuff up in the springfield example is a great example. it's fine to do press conference and great to do interviews where you're saying people in springfield were haitian are eating your dogs and cats and happens to be absent he falls. and if you're

doing it with sean hannity, he's not going to correct you. so all it is is an opportunity for you to get out more and more and more of these lies that by the way, impact real people. i have to keep saying it's not they're just making stuff up to make it up, people are literally putting being put in harm's way because of weather saying it met trump and vance face the same situation where there really aren't many days left until election day and there are no debates left. >> i get the rallies, i get the fox news. things are good, may be good for turnout. but what about persuasion? i mean, do they have any opportunities between now and then to persuade, people may undecideds to vote for them in how do you think they will do that? >> yeah. one of the things i think that's been savvy that they've done kind of suddenly over the last couple of months in jeff talked about, i think very aptly in his pieces date really expand them male gender gap, right? like you've seen trump on a lot of podcasts, deal von, which is one of the top five podcast around the world bryson dechambeau play around a golf with him you've

seen things that specifically targeted men in niche ways to i think to jeff's point, to try and get that gender gap a little bit more because look at the end of the day. if we win men more than democrats by more than democrats when women by, we are likely going to win this. so i think what you're seeing is suddenly them do this under the radar in a very very real way. >> all right. matt gorman, julie roginsky. great to see you both this morning. thanks so much sensitive information for the trump campaign. sent to biden's team when he was still in the race. new details on how iranian hackers are attempting to interfere in the u.s. election and good news the morning. >> plain and simple, over debt overdose, deaths in the u.s. lama's, we've got new reporting on what is causing this rapid decline moments that took culture over the edge. >> people are watching and then our world change i didn't

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made to chase your passions we were made to put them in a package i voted buttons that like dragging my remote kid. >> it's like your generation has evolved past traditional political the goal symbols. >> and there's room for everyone. yeah for these pew grain, most white taken iran is trying to interfere with your vote. and we have new information now on the efforts their efforts to meddle in the us election, federal law enforcement officials now saying the iranian hackers only stole information from donald trump's campaign over the summer, but now adding that hackers sent it to people associated with the biden campaign, law enforcement saying there's no indication the biden campaign the biden team ever did anything with the information joining me right now is chris krebs. he's the former director of the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency at the department of homeland security in charge of protecting our elections from

all things like this. it's good to see you. thanks for coming in around hackers, not only stealing information from the trump campaign now, we know sending an unsolicited to people affiliated with the biden campaign. i want to look at it in to parts. if we can, chris, first, the actual hack, the way it's described is iran using kind of a hack hack-and-leak playbook similar to russia. allah 2016 how aggressive is iran being this time around and trying to influence the 2024 election well, from what we've seen so far as you pointed out, they're effectively copying the russian playbook of 2016. >> so they have the hack and leak operation. we know they've gone after some county and local election officials as well. >> and then of course there's a constant disinformation operation using influencers, using social media, using gig economy workers to get out there and protests and counterprotests. >> so it does look very reminiscent of 2016. so we now we have multiple players on the playing field much like we did

in 2020 and then the new element of sending unsolicited to people affiliated with the biden campaign. i want to read a statement that came from the harris campaign about all of this, which said, we're not aware of any material being sent directly to the campaign. a few individuals were targeted on their personal emails with what looked like a spam or phishing attempt and a campaign official told cnn that the material was not used why would iran send this unsolicited to them what is the game there well, in yesterday's senate intelligence hearing on foreign threats to the 24 election, brad smith from microsoft had a very pointed comment where he said the 24 election is about russia verse harris. >> i ran verse trump. if you think about it along those lines, what i ran is trying to do is get as much damaging information or embarrassing

information and put it out there on trump. one way to do it is to give it to the biden or the harris campaign now that statement from the harris campaign is not necessarily inconsistent with i think the facts we have available if you look at the fbi statement from yesterday they mentioned that the biden campaign receive information this activity has been going on since june when president biden was still in the race. and so again, it's not clear how exactly the fbi determined that this information was being said. they could have found that by accessing the aol account of the individual, you may remember robert that was sending some of this information out to the media outlets or the biden campaign itself could have notified the fbi. so more to come here, but this is the tip of the iceberg for the iranian influence operation in the 24 election, we will see more so there's the outside foreign influence trying to get in. >> and then it's how the

campaigns are reacting to it in the midst of this election i want to play for you what donald trump said just yesterday but no ran hacked into my campaign. i don't know what the hell they found. i'd like to find out couldn't have been too exciting. >> but they gave it to the biden campaign i can't believe that. >> oh, yes, i can trump claiming without evidence that biden was somehow involved with the hack, despite what the law enforcement statement is? a statement and saying which was otherwise what is the impact of that? chris don't think there's much i mean, this is a mirror image of 2016 when the clinton campaign was hacked information was provided, or at least allegedly provided to members associated with the trump campaign's. >> so i think again, we're seeing this mirror image of what russia it is trying to accomplish previously and currently. and what i ran is trying to accomplish in the

current moment. and this is not surprising. we should anticipate that our adversaries who have different objectives, different strategies, and they may prefer different outcomes of this election are going to get involved. and so it is a very complicated situation. and unfortunately, the american voter has kind of caught in-between here at 100%, it's good to see you, chris. thank you so much for coming in. john right. >> new this morning, the cdc says fatal drug overdoses have fallen sharply in the u.s. down to their lowest level in three years, senior medical correspondent meg tirrell is with us now. this is the kind of news you want to see when you wake up in the morning may yeah, it really is john. >> i mean, researchers are calling this drop that we're seeing unprecedented and they're rubbing their eyes and saying, is this real in the data? and will this continue? it is important to note though drug overdose deaths are still surpassing 100,000 per year in the most recent years worth of data, which ends in april from the cdc. but we do see a drop

in that most recent year of about 10% in drug overdose deaths. now as researchers are trying to figure out how real is this drop? and will it continue? they also point to signs a beyond just deaths from overdoses that are also going in the right direction. nonfatal overdoses, they say have also started to decline by an even greater measure, 15 to 20%. it looks like in the national data and research from the university of north carolina suggests that individual states we're seeing potentially even bigger magnitude drops in nonfatal overdoses and hopefully that will translate into a greater national trend in fewer overdose deaths. but it is still really important to note that during the pandemic overdose deaths sword, it was much less in 2019. now we have seen a major increase and now coming down. so are the lowest level in three years, but obviously still too high. >> yeah, it is still way too high. no question about that, but a drop of this size just

quickly does seem promising. do they have any explanations for why this is one of the most fascinating things about this data it's sort of seems like a mystery at this moment. there are a number of interventions that have been put into place one major thing of course, is increased access to naloxone, the overdose reversing for sold drug, and then has gone over the counter. there are also efforts to just make that more available generally, there is hope that that is helping of course, more access to opioid use disorder treatment. although researchers aren't sure whether that's driving this decline, fentanyl test strips, there are many different factors that could be contributing to this also coming out out of the pandemic. of course, but they are still digging into this. and of course, want to understand why. so if there are things they can do that are driving this, those can be sustained all right, cautious, optimism, maybe in order make tirell. >> thanks so much for helping explain this. all really appreciate it a hundreds of homes are forced to evacuate after that pipeline started burning out of control in

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the false rumors turn to amplified. virzi theory spread by donald trump and j.d. vance about haitian immigrants eating pets in that community. that's despite the pleas from the city officials. to stop lying despite the republican governor, there calling the misinformation garbage will now donald trump on wednesday said he's planning a visit to the town telling a rally crowd that he he's going there in the next two weeks evacuations have now been lifted following a pipeline fire that had flames shooting into the skies in southwest southwest of houston in texas. now families are returning to a mess. the fire melting homes insulation exposed to this was it's just tragic they had to return home to debris everywhere 30 say it all started when an suv crashed into a store's parking lot fence hitting the pipelines, vow i've never had anything like this happened to me. the seconds many i mean, you work all there's all this all this time to make your house what

you want, and then a blake on ai is gone fire burned for three days. finally died down. it sounds like one of those drains job interview questions that test your critical thinking skills and ability handled pressure, researchers now putting a number to something that we never needed to know, estimating that in the united states, the number of golf balls lost for you here is about 1.5 billion worldwide. you see a three to five billion golf balls lost where do all those golf balls? >> and up? >> not in that pool view have to tell the housing tennis balls can fill a swimming pool. the answer is nature. one researcher found in pebble beach alone, as many as 100 he didn't 86,000 golf balls end up in the water each year. >> john i'm just trying to envision the interview question that you could ask these days about never mind moving on. >> on

j.d. >> vance. it his campaign against childless cat ladies my character was attacked by vice president dan quayle when murphy became pregnant and decided to raise the baby as a single mother we've come that too. >> she was of course, referring to her character, murphy brown that show in the dustup with dan quayle is featured prominently in the new episode of the cnn original series tv on the edge, moments that shaped our culture. here is a preview danny gray, i'll put that line of the space specifically because he wants to set off fireworks, you know you fell like you know, i've always felt that the aftermath

of the speech was hijacked that'd became a narrative. they didn't really reflect what the speech was about, but i would say that's coils fall for serving it >> he had to do it again, would you do it again? >> abs absolutely. >> that was not a mistake. >> i don't think that's a very popular show. look, just because there's a popular showed, you stay away from it when you're trying to use that show, an hollywood to make a point. and if we are losing our compass toward values, traditional values, family values should we speak up with us now, is mark mckinnon, whom you saw in that clip. he's a former adviser to george w bush and john mccain, the creator of the circus and apparently an avid murphy brown fan, would it aired on television? look, you said in that clip it wasn't what dan quayle intended. there. how so trying to make a broader point about just the importance of parenthood in her culture. >> but as i said, there in the clip, you know, what's important? what you have to

understand, what you're unintended consequences are going to be in politics. and that threw a huge brock and in the culture war palm that the ripples or continue until last week with murphy brown at the emmys, which is amazing that this has come full circle. >> but in a way it was described it as the fort sumpter of the culture wars when republicans start talking about how we, how we should live, or how women should live their lives, or what they should do, or if you prefer a revolutionary war metaphor, john, it's the, it's the shot heard round the world but i think when we did the interview in the dock the childless cat ladies hadn't happened yet. >> and so think about how this has come full circle. it started with dan quayle attacking women for having a, for being single parents. now come to j.d. vance, another vice presidential character attacking women for, for not having children. but it's okay that they had cats

pretty full circle. >> i'm trying to there's not you know, it's not really apples and oranges. it all. and how, what does it say about how far we have have not come when you can can bear all of your wisdom from then to what we're looking at now i'm in my view, i think republicans, i think a lot of this election is about that. >> i mean, you heard tim walz on the campaign saying that's none of your damn business. and the fact that republicans are still trying to ring this bell. i think there in a, in a cultural cul-de-sac on these issues. and i think that we will see what the outcome of the election is. but i think that there's going to be a huge factor relating to the problem of republicans telling women across america how they should live their lives, how they should parent, whether or not there should have killed kids or cats and i think it's going to be a huge problem and it's one that started 30 years ago with dan quayle. it's a fascinating story and national, in national elections, mark have these types of culture

wars ever helped republicans? >> this hasn't you know, this isn't how george w bush ran in 2000 uk campaign that i covered in the work done. i don't remember this the thing with him or with mccain in 2008 i agree with you, john and i and i think that that's what attracted people like me across the bridge was george bush didn't talk about that. >> he talked about compassionate conservatism being compassionate for others in our society and people we share our r community with not attacking them for the way that they live. and as i said, i think it's been in problem for republicans since 1992 and remains one today. and i think republicans may see the consequences of what jake, i mean, let's think about how many single women or there a ton, right? i think like i'm not sure the exact number like 50% of american women are single or child was that's a lot that's a lot just, you know, a lot can swing an election,