affair, taiwan's gold apollo said the ar-924 design was licensed to bac consulting and hungary. their offices closed and hungary's government said the referenced devices have never been in hungary instead, a bulgarian company the possible recipient, yet bulgaria state agency for national security said the devices never came through bulgarian customs either. shell after shell making their source so tough to divine someone clearly wanted to hide it israel struck with the sophistication before killing an iranian nuclear scientist here apparently with the facial recognition activated machine gun and killing hamas is lead negotiator in this tehran guest house apparently planting a bomb but the lebanon blasts on another scale in terms of the innocence hit, and the months of meticulous preparation involved

>> nick paton walsh, cnn, london thanks for joining us. the news continues now right here on cnn all you watching us here in the united states, canada, and around the world, i'm kim brunhuber. this is cnn newsroom shocking comments from a trump backed candidate for governor in north carolina. what cnn has learned about mark robinson's internet posts, vice president kamala harris visits the battleground state of michigan. her thoughts on democracy from the event oprah winfrey hosted, and hezbollah threatens a crushing response following attack in lebanon. lava live report from the region from atlanta. >> this is cnn newsroom with kim brunhuber we begin. this hour with the u.s presidential race with just 46 days until the election, the nominees are moving full speed ahead with their campaigns. democratic

nominee and common at harris is set to travel to georgia to deliver remarks on reproductive rights while republican nominee donald trump campaigns in the swing state of north carolina on saturday. now, his visit comes as scandalous revelations about his ally, a candidate for governor. there rocks the campaign on thursday as cnn, kfile investigation revealed mark robinson's history of disturbing lewd comments on a message board for a porn website trump has praised and endorsed robinson, but his campaign isn't saying whether robinson should drop out of the race. but the harris campaign has been sharing video and photos of trump and robinson together robinson denies making the comments the deadline for him to quit past about three hours ago, but he's refused to leave the race we get more on the cnn investigation from cnn's dianne gallagher mark robinson, the controversial and socially conservative republican running for governor here in north carolina, made a

series of inflammatory comments on a pornography website between 2008 and 2012 on a message board. and what she referred to himself as a black nazi expressed support for reinstating slavery as well as other lewd and degrading comments about women, according to a cnn kfile investigation. now, despite a recent history of very anti-transgender comments robinson said on the website, which was called nude africa and included a message board that he enjoyed watching transgender pornography. he also referred to himself as a perv out. robinson denies making these comments and they do predate his entry into politics where he is currently serving as lieutenant governor of the state they were made under a username that cnn was able to identify as robinson by matching a litany of biographical details and a shared email address as well. many of those comments were again, gratuitous and sexual

and lewd nature they were made the on that website cnn is reporting only a small portion of robinson's comments given the nature of them out, robinson did tell cnn on thursday that quote, this is not us. >> these are not our words, and this is not anything that is characteristic of me. i'm not going to get into the minutiae shut up. how somebody manufactured this. these salacious tabloid lies. he also put out a video statement getting ahead of the cnn story before it was published, saying comparing himself to clarence thomas, calling it a, himself, a victim of a high-tech lynching now, robinson's campaign opponent in the gubernatorial campaign, the current attorney general here, democrat josh stein, his campaign released a statement saying, quote, north carolinians already know mark robinson is completely unfit to be governor. josh remains focused on winning this campaign, so that together we can build a safer, stronger

north carolina now, for everyone, now, robinson has been endorsed by just about every republican in the state of north carolina, as well as former president donald trump, who at one point called him martin luther king on steroids and better than martin luther king. the trump campaign has said that it is focused on winning north carolina and the presidential race face the fallout with republicans here in the tar heel state does continue as many democrats try and link their opponents today to or robinson and those comments that he made. diane gallagher, cnn back to you north carolina is one of several swing states that could prove crucial in the presidential race. >> now the state hasn't been won by a democratic presidential candidates since brock obama in 2008. but the latest poll shows a tight contest there with harris at 49% to trump's 46% hello, political analysts disagree about whether the turmoil in the governor's race will have an impact on north carolinians

choice for president a lot of republicans, especially in the southern states, this has happened in georgia. >> this has also happened in arizona they will leave trump off the top of the ticket and vote down-ballot for republicans, they will also likely sometimes do the opposite. so i don't think we should necessarily think that donald trump is toast here because the terrible republican candidate for governor is on his way to being toasted donald trump at the top of the ticket has actually been found liable for sexual assault donald trump has said a lot of really off the wall things that are not dissimilar from what this guy said. so the fact that they're bedfellows really is i'm excited to see that the commonly campaign is actually making that connection. because this is not an isolated incident in north carolina. this is symptomatic of who the republican party is right now that donald trump didn't comment on the robinson report while addressing an anti-semitism event in washington on thursday, but he did make some alarming remarks

about jewish voters. >> cnn's alayna treene has the story >> we're supporters at a pair of events in washington, dc thursday evening. the former president suggested that jewish democrats would be partially to blame if he were to lose the election in november. he also repeated frequent line that jewish democrats are jewish americans, i should say that vote democratic lay should have their heads examined. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm not good. i call this as a prediction, but in my opinion the jewish people would have a lot to do with a loss if i'm at 40%, if i'm at four, think of it, that means 60% of voting for kamala, who in particular is a bad democrat. >> now, to be clear, donald trump has repeatedly use this anti-semitic trope to argue that jewish there's americans who did not vote for him or who planned to not vote for him. and instead lopes for the

democrats are not sufficiently jewish while also simultaneously arguing that he is the most pro israel president in us modern history. right now, donald trump also claimed on thursday that israel would cease to exist if kamala harris were to win in november and not him again, this is something we have heard from donald trump. >> he also continued to argue that he would end the war between israel and hamas without offering any specifics. >> but look, the goal of the pair of events on thursday evening was for donald trump and his campaign to really try in courts jewish americans who are feeling disaffected by the way, that the biden ministration and kamala harris as vice president are handling the war in the middle east. that was the goal of this tonight in it also comes on the heels of donald trump having for with meerim adelstein a major megadonor over the summer where one of his top aides had sent a series of angry texts

it's to her eye since then, they have repaired their relationship. you saw mirror and 8:00, son introduced donald trump's both events, but this is a very important moment for donald trump. key voting bloc that he is really trying to shore up support with, which is 47 days left until election day. alayna treene, cnn, washington, dc. >> kamala harris, run out the star power to the campaign trail in the battleground, state of michigan, oprah winfrey hosted the unite for america virtual rally on thursday for the u.s. vice president during their discussion, winfrey said it felt as if a veil had dropped after president joe biden suspended his presidential bid, winfrey then told harris that she appeared to have stepped into her power as democratic nominee. harris campaign called the event a big moment to reach a broad range of voters you know, there's so much at stake in this election and ultimately the question before us is, what kind of country do we want to live in and the beauty of democracy as long as we can

hold onto it the beauty of democracy is each of us has the power. each of us has the power. what's right to answer that question gun ownership was another hot topic discussed during the live stream and the nominee, you got very candid about being an owner level tim god, no yes. >> i hear that. i hear that probably shouldn't not but my staff all right. joining me now from london is leslie vinjamuri. she's the head of the u.s. and the americas programme at chatham house. thanks so much for being here with us again. so let's start there with that. oprah event. what do you make of its potential impact? the fact that it's oprah and streaming. she herself has such a wide reach and it's sort of an innovative way to reach even more people. it was supposedly aimed at

undecided. so do you think it would actually convince anyone who's on the fence or is it just sort of another turnout generator? >> i think it's certainly a turnout generator for those who are already either registered democrats are sort of are deciding how enthusiastic that they are. and we've seen since kamala harris was top of the ticket, that enthusiasm amongst democrats is really a arisen. it sort of, you know, went a little bit flat after the democratic national convention and came right back again after the debate. so i think it's about keeping that enthusiasm up hoping that people register that they'd go to the polls. >> the undecided voters, you know, it's very difficult to know how they'll be influenced by this. >> they might, if you look unfortunately at the racial divides in polling in the united states, there is a very significant racial divide in this election. some people will look at that and feel like it

doesn't represent them. others might and kamala harris, of course, as we know, is trying very much to play to the middle ground in american politics. the fact that she talked about guns in the way that she did was very nuanced, trying not to be too left and her economic policies again, playing to the middle, her her desire to castros all very much as a candidate for all people it's very important in a race where you have 53% of white americans coming out in favor. according to the polls for donald trump obviously that that's a that's a data point that doesn't tell us what we need to know because we're worried about a swing state voters and how they will move this election in either direction. but it's still constraints that you know, that they're race is a very significant issue in this election, are well, speaking of swing states, i want to go back to the mark robinson story, which is making so many waves. >> what effect do you think it

might have? i mean, democrats crafts are trying to tie him to donald trump. we heard various opinions from some experts a few minutes ago about whether it will affect donald trump in that state, are whether its impact could be mainly felt to down ballot and that the hotly-contested governor's race. >> yeah. me very difficult to know. it is a very significant and difficult story, certainly for the republicans but it's 46, 47 days away from the election and a lot will happen in 46 days. it might depress some of that turnout for donald trump, people who just find unpalatable. his endorsement of this kind of candidate but at the end of the day, i think the stakes in this election will feel so high to so many people because it is such according to pretty much all the polling, it is such an if phenomenally closed this race those people

who simply don't want to see a democrat or an don't want to see kamala harris might set those concerns aside and still vote for donald trump. >> yeah another group which might have to do that depending on how they view his comments. >> donald trump's comments to jewish supporters, blaming them if he loses. i mean, one can imagine that those comments would be helpful when he's when he's trying to appeal to that group yeah. >> i see these comments again as clearly trying to attract some of the jewish voters that have really been primarily in the democratic party, but possibly also speaking to his base i rallying his base so much of the tactics that donald trump uses are intended to really stoke division. and it's, you know, it's shored up that 46%, that he, that he has of the u.s. electorate so

it's difficult to see how this tracks is sort of a threatening language to it retract jewish american voters but again, you know, there's something about donald trump's appeal that is difficult to read. it's difficult to understand offline and logical and rational terms why people make the choices that they do given the policies that he enacted that didn't support the interests of many people who voted for him so much of the appeal is to a certain kind of politics, a certain kind of division and i'm trying to really build himself in this case is the president who is would be undoubtedly in support of israel at a time when kamala harris is trying to draw more of a line when it comes to israel palestine, and the war, of course, between israel and hamas in gaza we'll have to leave it there. >> i appreciate your analysis. leslie vinjamuri. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you all right.

>> now we want to go to a shocking story in kentucky where an officer sworn to protect the public, a sheriff is alleged to have shot and killed a judge in his own chambers. a state trooper says district judge kevin mullins was alone in the room with letcher county sheriff, shawn m. stines during the incident on thursday. shooting is said to have followed an argument between the two, but still not clear what it was about. the sheriff turn himself in, was arrested at the scene. no other injuries were reported right still ahead, fears of a wider conflict in the middle east as israel and hezbollah ramp up their fighting law, the latest from the region next plus hillary clinton weighs in on the israel hamas war with the former us secretary of state says, surprised her about the situation in gaza. that's all coming up, stay with us are watching and then our world changed. >> tv on the edge premieres sunday at nine on cnn i was so

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attacks when thousands of pagers and walkie-talkies exploded across the country, the blasts killed at least 37 people and wounded nearly 3,000 the threats are raising fears of a wider regional conflict. >> israel's military carried out dozens of strikes in the past 24 hours hitting what it says were about 100 hezbollah rocket launchers, weapons depot, and other sites in southern lebanon. iran backed hezbollah said it launched at least 17 attacks on israeli military sites in northern israel i'll using drones and rockets, israeli authorities say at least eight people were hospitalized. all right, when live. now to cnn's paula hancocks, who's following developments from abu dhabi. so paula, in the wake of those device attacks, how is israel reacting here? >> well, kim, we did hear from the hezbollah chief hassan nasrallah last night he said that israel had crossed all red lines when it came to this

attack, unsurprisingly condemning the attacks and that there were civilians that were affected it as well. and medical personnel with pagers. but what he said was acknowledged that there was a damage that was inflicted on hezbollah. he did say that the group the attacks on the group were unprecedented. he also said there's no doubt we have suffered a major blow clearly having to acknowledge that this was a very significant attack which would have had an impact on the group. he did say that the infrastructure was robust, it was intact, and the leadership were not affected. he said because they had older versions of the pages, we can't clarify whether that is in fact the case and they weren't affected, but he did point out that there would be retaliation. let's listen to what he said sad the reckoning

will come its nature, scope when and where that's something we will definitely keep to ourselves within the titis circle, even within ourselves, because we are in the most precise sensitive, and deeply significant part of the bathroom and so it is a very tense moment at this point over the months since october 7, we have seen that tension spike along the border and there have been questions about whether this was going to be the event that was going to make this a wider regional conflict. and there are certainly great concerns at this point that this could be the case. certainly given what we saw overnight significant cross-border attacks between hezbollah and israel. in fact, lebanese state run media nna said that between 9:00 and 10:00 p.m. there were at least 52 israeli strikes in southern lebanon. now we've heard from the israeli side that the defense minister yoav gallant saying this is a new era in the

conflict, saying that as time goes by, hezbollah will pay an increasing price all right. >> paula hancocks. thank you so much. appreciate that and cnn's fareed zakaria recently sat down with former us secretary of state hillary clinton during their wide-ranging discussion, clinton talks about the war in gaza and where it's heading secret clinton, when you look at the situation in the middle east right now what do you think is the is the principal driver of this of what's going on, the fact that you have israel in a war in gaza the escalation was seeming escalation in the north how do you know what would give us a sense of how you understand that conflict well, it's it's tragic the the attack last october 7 on israel was outrageous and they had a right to defend themselves, as i think anyone who understands

what happened would agree and i've also made it clear that hamas is a terrorist organization. israel does have that right to defend itself, but israel has to abide in so as possible by the laws of war and this conflict has been so intractable for several reasons. i think on the one hand, you have hamas, especially under the leadership, the continuing leadership of sinwar that has not wanted a ceasefire i've tried to follow this very closely they have been betting on a larger conflict they thought they might trigger a larger conflict. the timing of their attack i think it's fair to say was meant to send a message to saudi arabia about the potential normalization so

hamas is not just continuing the war because they are on their back heel and they are worried about what will happen to them. the hamas leadership and fighters. but because they are hoping to spark something bigger and then israel, which has been invasion in large measure because of these tunnels, which i was surprised by. i mean, we knew when i was secretary of state that you had to keep an eye out for tunnels coming from egypt that we're bringing in contraband goods. even weapons. but for her and 50 miles of tunnel and places that are staging grounds, command and control, obviously hiding places it's very difficult for the israelis to figure out how the war can end if they have a

couple of thousand hamas fighters still hiding in the tunnels and you could see the full interview with hillary clinton. >> this sunday on fareed zakaria gps. that's ten in the morning eastern time, 3pm in london the upcoming winter will put ukraine's power grid through its toughest test yet. so that's the word from the international energy agency after russia recently ramped up its attacks on ukraine's electric system it's already been battered so much that power blackouts are now part of daily life. energy agency says those disruptions could become severe when temperatures drop in demand for heat rises because of the previous attacks on the ukrainian energy infrastructure to tyre's two terms of the power generation capacity of ukraine was lost and we are committed to winter. >> is, you know, granted temperatures drop energy demand

increases, and this could be a major issue for electricity and for a heating in ukraine 80% of ukraine's thermal plants have been destroyed. and a third of the hydropower capacity so this is where we will concentrate our repair efforts with the aim to restoring 2.5 gigawatts of capacity this winter, that is approximately 15% of ukraine's needs european union will contribute more than $100 million to accomplish that goal. among other things, with wainio will dismantle one of its thermal power plants will be reassembled in ukraine a diplomatic rift has opened between china and japan and the stabbing death of a young japanese boy in china has just made it worse. want that story ahead los, it was a crime that shocked france and the world. now, french judges hear from

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disturbing story here. so take us through what happened and the reaction rightly described, a very disturbing story and a tragic murder that occurred just 200 meters away from where this boy went to school. >> now, chinese authorities are still investigating the incident, but we now have some more details about the suspect that were released earlier. there are friday afternoon local time that i'd like to share with you. according to chinese state media, the suspect 44-years-old has been detained twice before, once in 2015, and another time in 2019, both for nonviolent crimes according to the police, the suspect who is unemployed has also confessed to killing this young boy and has also reportedly acted alone. now, chinese authorities haven't given any more details about the exact motive behind this attack, but of course there has been an outpour of grief, both in japan and in china. in fact,

in the southern city of shenzhen, where this young boy was from locals have been left saying down flowers to mourn his life and also to commemorate his bereaved family members. here's what one local had to say about this tragic loss of life shinzen as the chinese people, we oppose this behavior. >> we oppose this teaching of hatred. many of us have been under such hatred education for a long time, which is lit that is such evil consequences. this is the evil consequence of assisting in hatred education for a long time japanese prime minister fumio kishida echoed these concerns at his press conference on thursday, where he described with a crime as a i quote, a despicable crime and a serious and grave matter, he adds, quote, such an incident must never be repeated. >> we strongly urged the chinese side to ensure the safety of japanese people. again, there have also been concerns about whether or not

chinese authorities are properly protecting the lives of foreign nationals in the country i'm country, even though violent crimes like this are quite rare in china, there have been a spate of recent stabbing attacks that have been concerning for the international community. for example, in june 4, american college instructors were stabbed in china and just two weeks after that, a japanese mother and her son were stabbed at a bus stop a chinese bus operator, her tried to intervene during that attack. later died from the injuries. she sustained. now again, chinese authorities still don't yet know what exactly the motive was behind this attack. but some people on chinese social media have speculated that it could have been fueled by anti-japanese sentiment, as you described there, kim, of course course the timing of this attack is also very important to note, given that it happened on the anniversary of the highly sensitive 918 incident, which is a day that many in china acknowledged as the beginning of the japanese invasion of

china back in 1931. but again, this is unconfirmed. we still don't yet know what the motive was behind this attack pack, but either way, of course, both in japan and in china, people are very distressed about this tragic loss of life. >> can appreciate that and i go montgomery on. thursday, french judges began questioning the first of 50 men accused in the mass rape of, she said to politico prosecutors say for nearly a decade she was drugged and made unconscious by her then husband, dominique pelicot, who then allowed dozens of men to rape his wife rodriguez this is one of a small number of the accused could midst of the crime. >> he apologized to the victim despite acknowledging he had been wrong and cowardly rodrigo is and his lawyer tried to shift the blame to the husband it's totally bad. >> several be the question is not whether mrs. pelosi, you could have consented. she obviously was not consenting she is obviously the victim in this case. and the only problem

is to know how the men who in particular mr. rodriguez this morning initially interpreted that proposals and the request made to him by mr. belico probably morning as the case continues, support for the victim and tensions in the courtroom are both on the rise. so that's going around. door and has this report at a journalist. he's one of 51 men on trial for allegedly raping gisele pelicot. the french woman whose ex husband drugged her and invited strangers on line to rape her as that's the case has sparked outrage across france and tensions in the courtroom are high, leading to increase security behind seventy-two-year-old, shooter, they'll politico dominic pelicot, her husband, 50 years, told the court this week, i am a rapist, like everyone else in this room on thursday, ms pelicot hit out at claims that she was complicit after one defense lawyer reportedly accused her of being

an exhibitionist ms petticoat saying she was comatose at the time, and therefore not able to consent by giving up her right to anonymity. ms pelicot has become a symbol against sexual violence, with thousands taking to the streets in support of her school does out petticoats defiance and resilience, and bravery and speaking out has captivated france and the world. saskia vandoorne, cnn, paris germany imposes new border controls to send the tide of migration into the country, but move brooks pushback from neighbors and a dismissal from critics. >> swamp that story ahead and ai scammers are searching social media and using what they find to replicate people's voices and identities while the story and a warning from a british bank after the break, state

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completed a u-turn in its policy on migration this week, the country introduced new controls on all of its borders, which is a far cry from its migration friendly approach of the last decade. >> the government has been under pressure to tackle the problem, even though it has recently stepped up deportations but as fred pleitgen reports, the move is putting european unity on the line crossing where they normally breeze through but germany has brought back document and vehicle checks, not just here in frankfurt on the order at the border with poland, but at all of its borders with eu countries officer tom can he says, they regularly find people trying to enter germany illegally depletion or its daily business here that people don't meet entry requirements for germany, he says, and perhaps even for the schengen area and then have to be subjected to further police measures germany's problem, many people from around the

world continue to flee to europe, and many of them want to come to germany, even though they should register in the countries where they first crossed into eu territory. but those countries berlin says, aren't doing enough to stop migrants from moving on to germany. the new border checks are extremely controversial with other european union member states germans are saying they absolutely needs to do this to stop the threat of terrorism, but also illegal migration all the european countries though say that this destroys the very essence of a unified europe the wave of mass migration to germany started in 2015. millions of people fleeing the wars in syria, iraq, and afghanistan crossed into the eu, welcomed by then german chancellor angela merkel, who boasted that germany would manage the huge influx of people from abroad. >> but after nine years, many germans are saying enough following a string of attacks carried out by former asylum

seekers, leaving several people dead voters are flocking to the right-wing alternative for germany party afd promises to stop migration and start mass deportation of migrants severely sliding in the polls, german chancellor olaf scholtz now says he's getting tough via other move. >> we will utilize all possibilities to carry out entry refusals within the framework of the law. he says, and we've put a concept for effective entry refusal on the table where we are prepared to do this with the opposition while the right-wing anti-migration hungarian prime minister viktor orban gleefully posted on x quote, germany has decided to impose strict border controls to stop illegal migration, bundeskanzler scholtz, welcome to the club other european leaders have vowed to combat germany's new border regime that go to project this type of action is unacceptable from the polish point of view, poland's prime

minister said, after all, i have no doubt that it is the internal political situation in germany which is causing these steps to be implemented and not hour policy towards illegal immigration on our borders and some migration experts believe germany is not only putting itself at odds with the eu, but that these checks will do little to stop illegal border crossings. >> i don't think the effect is going to be dramatic. i mean, it's mostly a political signal now to show obviously that the government it's doing something and also two other european countries that they should shoulder a larger part of the responsibility. >> whether or not the measures work they're already having a big political effect in europe putting the eu's unity to the test fred pleitgen, cnn, thankfully, under order, germany or uk bank is warning these scammers can use artificial intelligence to replicate a person's voice with just three seconds of audio pulled from online videos, fraudsters can then

target friends and family using in the voice cloned by ai online lender sterling bank says this kind of scam has already fooled hundreds of people and has the potential to fool millions. the bank is encouraging people to make plans with loved ones to counteract such scamming attempts all right. for more, i'm joined from san francisco by josh constine, venture partner at vc firm signalfire, and former techcrunch editor at large. great to have your expertise on this disturbing story here. so we're all basically familiar with the old school type of scam or someone calls for emails the victim and claims that a family member is in trouble, or in jail or something, needs money. so how does this one work exactly i mean, the question is, am i even really josh consti it used to be that you couldn't believe everything that you read and now you can't believe everything you hear or see either these new form of snow social engineering attacks, which are hacks where instead of attacking the computer

system, you trick a human being to actually helping you what a scam are becoming more and more powerful thanks to ai. >> and so essentially what's happening is scammers will take a clip of your voice from social media, a youtube video, a podcast, maybe and the news broadcast like this they'll create a clone of that voice and then they'll use that to call your loved ones or business partners to try to scam the amount of money. and oftentimes, hackers watching why in weight, they'll get into your email through a phishing scam. they'll wait so there's a moment where it sounds like you're going to transfer some money or you've got a family member in need and that's when they're going to jump in with a phone call. that sounds just like one of your family members or colleagues, and that's why people need to come up with new ways to court these threats yeah. unbelievable. just say so sophisticated and it seems to be becoming more common. a recent survey by them that bank found that more than a quarter of respondents said that

they'd been targeted by an ai voice cloning scam in the past 12 months, 46% of them weren't aware that that type of thing existed and 8% said they would send over as much money as requested by friend or family member so just give us a sense of how big a problem this is already, right now them that sounds pretty paranoid. >> i think lot of people are just assuming regular scams were actually ai powered, but you have spearfishing phishing scams like this or a 1.5 trillion dollar per year business. actually, 3.4 billion been phishing emails are sent every day. and that's increasing 100 150% per year. it's getting worse fast and spearfishing where a specific person is targeted rather than just blanketly sending as many of these scam emails as possible when you target a specific person or actually 500% more effective because they seem really authentic. these scammers are going to a lot of work to find out how

exactly how do you sound, what do you talk about? so they can feel full your loved ones, you could say that they're sparing no expense yeah. unbelievable how worried, given the numbers that you've given us there in and how much money the conventional sort of scams like this bring in. >> how worried should we be that this will spread even more and become even more sophisticated? >> the same way that we had internet literacy programs in the early 2000s to teach out a google search or know that wikipedia isn't always reliable. we need ai literacy programs in schools and businesses to teach people about these types of scans. and one of the biggest ways that people can protect themselves is to create a secret password for you and your friends and family or your business partners that you don't share online, don't even texted to each other. you agree do it in-person. and then if somebody has ever making a suspicious request, well, what's the last

four digits of your social security number or you just send this wire transfer to a different location or a different address that's when you can ask for that password and even if they've faked somebody else, that you knows, voice or even their face, they won't have that secret password. luckily, there are also some great new start-ups that are focused on this problem. companies like doing security from signalfire's portfolio. this companies specifically use ai to counteract ai you are fighting ai where they are hi, and they act as sort of a watchtower overseeing your communication channels, flagging potential attacks, and even offering real-time training to help you prevent future breaches by teaching you what to do and not to do great advice because we know this will only get more and more common you said josh constant and thank you so much for joining us. >> really appreciate it my pleasure. >> stay safe out there definitely is major league baseball superstar shohei ohtani goes where no player has gone before making history in

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