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this hour in the battleground state of north carolina, where donald trump is set to hold a campaign rally later today. >> it's his first event there since cnn's investigation into the state's trump approved candidates that for governor mark robinson revealed disturbing online activity involving a pornographic website. trump has yet to comment on the controversy, but while he's in north carolina, trump could see billboards like this one from the democrats linking him to the lieutenant governor with the hope that statements like these showing his past support could come back to haunt him. cnn's dianne gallagher has details of the scandal and how robinson himself is responding did things, but the fallout from cnn's bombshell report about lieutenant governor mark robinson spilling over into a second day. i am running for governor. >> the gop nominee for north carolina's governor, moving forward board with his campaign after the deadline passed for him to withdraw. as absentee ballots are sent out to voters

friday the fresh swirl of controversy follows a cnn kfile investigation that found robinson made a series of inflammatory comments on a pornographic website's message board, more than a decade ago, referring to himself as a black nazi, and expressing support for reinstating slavery, among other salacious lewd and gratuitous statements. >> thank you so much for robinson categorically denying the allegations. do this is not us, these are not our words, and this is not anything that is characteristic of me, but the controversy extending beyond on the tar heel states race for governor with robinson having received the endorsement of former president donald trump, who has repeatedly praised the conservative firebrand. >> this is martin luther king on steroids. okay, the campaign of vice president kamala harris, highlighting the ties between trump and robinson in a new ad friday the pass a bill so you can have an abortion in north carolina for any risks abortion in this country, it's about killing a child because

you are responsible enough to keep your i've been with them. >> i've gotten to know him and his outstanding the former president is set to hold a rally in the battleground state on saturday, sources tell cnn robinson has not been invited to the event despite being a regular presence at trump's events in the state, including two last month or some trump allies are dismissing the potential impact the former president's campaign will be filed in north carolina. >> this issue is going to come and go but the reality of what's happened in our country remains and that's why donald trump's going to win the state of north carolina as democrats in north carolina seek to turn robinson's controversy into a challenge for other republicans. >> i think that when people go to the polls, they need to think about these candidates who have supported and encouraged somebody like mark robinson and continue to do so. >> now, democrats across the state of north carolina taking advantage of this nearly every statewide candidate down

through the ballot has posted a photograph that the republican opponent has taken with robinson sen. are touted an endorsement even just kind comments about the lieutenant governor. there was a fund fundraiser that was scheduled for mark robinson featuring the chair of the republican governors association, tennessee governor bill lee, will a source familiar tells cnn that is no longer taking place and governor bill lee is not coming to north carolina dianne gallagher, cnn back to you earlier, cnn senior data reporter harry enten weighed in on how the robinson scandal may impact the race in north carolina between trump and harris you look at where the poles we're heading into this right in the presidential race, my goodness, gracious. >> how tight it was. it was tied. i think it was like 0.2 percentage points. if you didn't round it. but the bottom line is tied between kamala harris and donald trump and the governor's race. look, the democrat josh stein was well ahead of mark robinson up by ten points. i think he's going to be hitting by even more after this particular

thing. it's the real question of how much this may impact the presidential race and how important is the great state of north carolina when it comes to the presidential race, look at this, the chance of winning the election if they win in north carolina, it's very important if kamala harris wins in north carolina, look at that. her chance of winning up to 95% donald trump, even if he wins, there, it's just 76%. but that actually says that this state is much more of a must win for donald trump than it is for kamala harris. and that's why this scandal could be so devastating to his chances. and what is really a must-win state for him? >> kamala harris railed against donald trump's position on reproductive rights friday, while campaigning here in nearby georgia, abortion restrictions passed by republicans of reportedly contributed to several deaths in the state. harris drew a contrast with the former president blaming him for the changes that followed the overturning of roe versus wade here she is one in three women in america lives in a state with a trump abortion ban this

includes georgia and every state in the south, except virginia. >> think about that. when you compound that with what has been long-standing neglect of women in communities with a lack of adequate resources they need for health care, prenatal, during their pregnancy, postpartum think about that. these hypocrites want to start talking about this is in the best interest of women and children who have been wary when it comes to taking care of the women and children of america the democratic presidential nominee also visited wisconsin, another battleground state. >> wisconsin senator tammy baldwin told cnn harris has to keep emphasizing the stark differences between herself and trump it wisconsin has been the battleground state in many presidential elections. >> it was the tipping point state that gave trump the white

house in 2016. and you mentioned how close the victory for biden was in 2020 they are tied right now in terms of what harris needs to do. >> she did it today, showing up. >> you gotta show up in red parts of this purple parts of the state with blue parts of the state. and she has to continue to make the contrast between what she's running on, what she is about and what donald trump is pushing harris is appearance in georgia came as the state's election board, which is controlled by trump allies approved a controversial new rule despite bipartisan objections, requires counties to hand-count ballots cast on election day to ensure the number matches the tally from voting machines we have more now from cnn's sara murray three people are all pit bulls fighting for honesty, transparency, and victory there, fighting those three republicans on the georgia

state election board, who donald trump praised at a campaign rally last month, charging ahead with a controversial new rule about hand-counting balance. >> so this leaves us in a very difficult position. do we maintain the status quo because it's easier? or do we make a few adjustments so that we can be better, but it's not better for many bipartisan election officials across the state who begged the board to pause a new rules ahead of november, the idea that you're not going to listen to the individuals that are charged with conduct an election it's absurd to me, state officials from republican secretary of state brad raffensberger to attorney general chris carr issued sharp warnings thanks. >> several of the dozen rules the board is considering may run afoul of the law were to close to electric. >> in fact, we're really just three weeks weeks before we start early voting and it's just too late in the cycle. >> the new rule doesn't help determine a winner. rather, it requires a hand count of the number of ballots at polling places on the left objection. day. and then comparing the number of ballots cast with a number recorded by voting

machines. critic say, it's a recipe for chaos. if i were to hand this stack of paper to three random people in this room especially at the end of a long voting day and ask them to arrive at the same total number do we think that's feasible? people doing a hand-count are going to make mistakes, which can then be exploited to spread lies. raffensberger says the change could delay reporting results on election night, you start breaking up the ballot boxes after you closed precinct, you won't be getting those election. >> davis boats until maybe 1:00, 2:00, or 4:00 in the morning and we just don't believe that's healthy for the republic and we don't think it's healthy for people of georgia, the three trump-backed republicans pass a rule. >> anyway, the motion passes three to two the independent chairman of the five-member board if there's more votes to implement this role, i think that we put ourselves in legal jeopardy. and this new rule is almost certainly going to face legal challenges. and to that end, georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger put out a statement after the meeting saying attorney general chris carr has they did that these

rules would not withstand a legal challenge, and i have worked every day to strengthen georgia's election law to ensure our elections remain safe, secure, and free. so it's just a question at this point of where these legal challenges there's are going to come from. sara murray, cnn, washington so here's another indication of just how tight this race has become. >> donald trump and his republican allies are mounting an effort to try to change an election law in nebraska, hoping it will save him potentially one electoral vote now that state awards electoral votes by congressional district gone like most states which are winner take-all. the former president won all five of nebraska's electoral votes in 2016, but lost the omaha area district to joe biden in 2020 trump phoned into a meeting with some of nebraska's republican lawmakers and the republican governor, jim pillen. this week describing the law is unfair according to one official, governor cohen has said that he would convene a special session before the november election to try to change the law, but only if

there's enough support for the vote while it's been just over two weeks since four people were killed in a mass shooting at apalachee high school in winder, georgia final funeral was held on friday. our rafael romo was there it's been yet another very hard day for this community of winder, georgia. >> we are at st. matthew catholic church where the funeral mass was held friday. >> the remains of 14-year-old student christian and gabrielle angulo were then laid to rest at a cemetery about ten miles north of here i'm winless. >> funeral is the last one of the four fatal victims of the september 4 shooting at apalachee high school? >> it was standing room only inside the church for a very emotional mass besides the angulo family, there were many students and teachers from apalachee high school. we're here earlier today showing their support. >> there were also many people from winder and nail the ring towns, a plan to archbishop gregory heart mayor, officiated the mask, which was held mostly in spanish as a sign of respect

for christian angulo's family and his mexican heritage. judge the parents of 14-year-old mason schermerhorn, the other student who died in the shooting, were also here after the mass. we spoke with are mondo martinez and apalachee high school student who was very close to angulo. this is part of what he told us. >> you was just blessed with that grace of god that made everybody just enlightened every he was around said that he was taken from us and the other victims from the mass shooting but all eyes i can say is that it's going to impact his very hard. i mean, we're never going to let this when i run out, let this go, we're not going to forget it but thena says he also knew richard aspinwall. >> well, that 39-year-old assistant coach also died in the shooting this last funeral happen the same day, some students in different parts of the state, states a school walkout for gun safety on thursday, a couple of dozen

school children from the ages it is a five to 12 attended a state senate committee meeting on gun violence at the georgia state capitol. one of the students told cnn affiliate wsb he that their purpose was to tell adults do something about gun violence back here in winder is students at apalachee high school phase one more challenge. a gradual returned to classes is expected to begin on monday. the school has been closed since the shooting on september for rafael romo, cnn, winder, georgia still ahead. >> the aftermath of a deadly israeli strike in beirut and fears are growing. it won't be the last as fighting between israel and hezbollah escalates what the latest from the region next, lot of speculation of bounds about what's behind the deadly stabbing of a ten-year-old japanese boy in china then our world changed. >> tv on the edge, premiers tomorrow nine on cnn time do

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ebrahim aqil was killed in what it called an israeli assassination operation. >> israel says it killed him along with quote, about ten other commanders and accuses of planning to raid and occupy israeli communities. and just now we're hearing that hezbollah says 16 of its members were killed lebanon's health ministry says the strike in a densely populated neighborhood killed at least 14 people and wounded 66 including children israel's military had this to say at the time of the strike, aqil and the commanders of the radwan forces were gathered underground under a residential building in the heart of the dahiyeh in beirut hiding among lebanese civilians, using them as human shields. >> ibrahim aqil had the blood of many innocent people on his hands israelis, americans, french, lebanese, and more. >> alright, want to go live now to london and cnn's jomana

karadsheh so jomana, hezbollah have warned they will retaliate. so take us through what they're saying. >> well, i mean, everyone is waiting to see what that retaliation is going to look like when is that going to happen? and we heard from hezbollah's leader hassan nasrallah on thursday following those hi, shocking and unprecedented pager and walkie-talkie attacks that killed and injured thousands, not only hezbollah operatives, of course, but also civilians, including women and children. and what we heard nasrallah say is that israel had crossed all red lines. he admitted that this was a severe blow to his organization and he said at a response will be coming and everyone has been waiting since. but the situation has also escalated even further since you have that strike that. you just mentioned in beirut's southern suburbs in lahia yesterday that israeli strike that. killed one of hezbollah's most senior commanders ibrahim aqil, the

head of the little x1 elite force that is pretty much hezbollah special operations force. >> and in the past few hours, we've also heard hezbollah announced that's 15 other members of the group operatives were killed in that strike including another senior commanders. so the question right now, is, what happens next where is this all headed and, you know, the one thing that has is very clear about all of this is that we have of entered a very dangerous an unprecedented phase in this cycle of escalation that has been going on in the region for about a year and you have to look at the context of what has been happening in this conflict since october the eighth of last year is israel and hezbollah have been engaged in what? >> you could describe as a middle, a mid-level intensity conflict. >> these cross-border attacks very much or for the most part,

really concentrated in the border area. of course, these have been deadly cross-border attacks, but they have tried to keep it confined to the border with the exception, of course, of some assassinations, some attacks that we have seen. in other parts of the country. but the events of the past few days this has taken this to a whole new level and the question is what is hezbollah going to do? and what is it that israel is doing, right now hezbollah has clearly been backed into a corner. those who know the group's aid that is going to have to respond but is it in a position to carry out any sort of a prompt response and retaliation right now, when you consider this blow after blow that it has taken in the past few days clearly it's communications, it's meetings and it's secrecy really that the group is known for all has been compromised and then you

also have the iran factor. what does iran want hezbollah to do it is its most powerful proxy in the region it has used it for years as leverage, as pressure on israel doesn't want to use that card, right now. and the question of course, as well, what is it that israel is doing? is it laying the groundwork for a major offensive or is this israel trying to set a new chapter in this conflict and setting deterrence for hezbollah and trying to use that military pressure to stop its attacks because the israelis have made it clear now, one of their main goals is to return their tens of thousands of residents from the the northern part of the country back to their homes. they've been displaced for nearly a year now, tens of thousands, and they're ready to do whatever it takes they say, to return them home i appreciate that. >> update. jomana karadsheh in london. thanks so much.

>> rosen, joe biden held his first cabinet meeting in a year on friday, instructing the members to sprint to the finish on his agenda with tensions escalating in israel and lebanon, he stressed the importance of making it possible for people there to return to their homes we're continuing tried to do and trashy beginning to make sure that both people more than israel as well as southern lebanon are able to go back to their homes and go back safely sector state served to defense our whole team working in the intelligence community, try to get that done. >> to keep at it till we get it done with way to go i asked if that seemed realistic. >> he said, quote, a lot of things don't look realistic until we get them done. we have to keep at it official said biden told his cabinet to get as much as possible done before the end of his term. and that includes new programs and policy funding and achieving a

ceasefire in gaza and hostage deal the white house is trying to beat a deadline with a new batch of military aid for ukraine, a major weapons package is expected to be announced as soon as next week, officials have to act fast because the money will come from the so-called presidential drawdown authority. party, which expires in less than two weeks. but ukraine may have to wait a while to receive that equipment because it will come from us stockpiles, some of which are running low chinese, police say a suspect has confessed to a deadly knife attack on a ten-year-old japanese boy killed on his way to school the killing raise diplomatic tension between the two countries. the attackers motive is still unclear, but as i go montgomery reports, some people in china have theories about what it could be this was a very tragic attack that occurred about 200 meters away from where this boy went to school chinese authorities are still investigating the exact motive behind this brutal murder, but have released

further details about the suspect chinese statement media said the 44-year-old suspect has been detained twice before in 2015 and 2019, both times for nonviolent crimes. >> police also said the suspect has confessed to stabbing the students and that he acted on his own. there's been an outpouring of grief following this attack. locals in the southern city of shenzhen, where this boy lived, have been laying down flowers to mourn him and his bereaved family. here's what one local said about the stabbing him. >> a random resident in shinzen has the chinese people, we oppose his behavior. >> we oppose this teaching of hatred. many of us have been on you're such hatred education for a long time, which has led to such evil consequences. this is the evil consequence of persisting in hatred education for a long time, there has also been urgent demands for the chinese government to better protect foreign nationals. >> because even though violent crimes are rare, a series of high high-profile stabbings in recent months have raised it's concerns in june 4, american

college instructors were stabbed in china just two weeks later, a japanese woman and her child were stabbed in front of a school bus at a bus stop in china. a chinese bus operator who tried to intervene later died from her injuries these concerns were echoed by the japanese prime minister fumio kishida at a press conference on thursday, he described the attack as quote, a despicable crime and a serious and grave matter, adding that quote, such an incident must never be repeated we strongly urged the chinese side to ensure the safety of japanese people authorities still haven't announced what the motive of the attack was. but someone chinese social media have speculated that it could have been racially motivated and a product of anti-japanese sentiment. given the timing of the attack it occurred on the anniversary of the 918 incident, a highly sensitive day that commemorates the beginning of the japanese invasion of china in 1931 but whatever the motive, the incident has fraught relations between china and japan as

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wisconsin, since the presidential debate appearing alongside her was the president of a local union for the international brotherhood of teamsters there is now this appearance came days after the teamsters national leadership declined to endorse a presidential candidate for the first time in nearly 30 years by john palmer, the teamsters vp at large. thanks the union members best interests served by harris serious the facts are very clear. >> the a rank and file members that we're on those roundtables all chose to endorse harris, the facts that were provided to those eight members and the rest of the gb were overwhelmingly in support of ms harris so we should have provided those to our members and we need to do that as soon as possible. trump with elon musk laughed and chuckled when they said that they're striking workers should be replaced. that should be a nonstarter for every man and woman that as a

labor union. when labor unions prosper, the rest of america prosperous and we can't be voting for an anti-union derelict. frankly, like like trump so all of this raises two questions. >> is there a split between union leadership and the rank and file members? and does a union endorsement matter much these days. now? it's what are these numbers from the u.s. bureau of labor statistics as of last year, only 10% of wage and salary workers were union members that's half of what it was 40 years ago. the membership rate among public sector workers this is more than five times higher than the rate of private sector workers. all right, joining me now on this is lanny newman. she's a co-author of the book rust belt union blues while working class voters are turning away from the democratic party thanks so much for being here with us. great to get your perspective on this. but first of all, what do you make of the schism that seems to be going on now in the union movement, the teamsters

not endorsing the democratic nominee yeah, thanks so much kim for having me. >> so i think this is a schism that has been growing for some time now. it's not only the teamsters. a lot of the large manufacturing hang in industrial unions and the building trades as well have been seeing these numbers internally for quite some time in our research, we found that this dates back to early 2000s and even the late 90s when people were becoming disillusioned with democratic party and wondering whether the democratic party was really on the side of union members and the working man and so i think that this is a growing rift and it's sort of all encapsulated in this moment with the teamsters. not the only time that a union has not endorsed a presidential how many democratic presidential nominee the united mine workers, for example have not endorsed

anyone since 2012. that used to be a very important constituency for democrats it's indicative of what's going on, but it's not it's not the first time this is ryan okay. >> so from your research, does it actually matter who the leadership the national leadership endorses? because on one hand you have a lot of the local teamster groups endorsing harris on the other hand as you say, more blue collar union members, especially men support donald trump yeah. >> i mean, that's the question, right? does the national endorsement really matter? and in our research, we found that it might seem like it matters more than it really does. so, in other words people are influenced, union members are influenced by their local leadership the people in their direct union it seems as though more than by the spokesperson of the executive leadership often dc. so people who are within the community, who are sending sort updates and

newsletters and the leadership of local union has a lot to do with the sort of what the political outcome is in that, in that region often their union members who are very involved in the political sort of going ons of the communities the local leadership has a lot of power here, and i think it'll be really interesting i think to see on the district and local level in these coming days and weeks, what local teamsters presidents are going to do in reaction to the lack of endorsement? >> yeah, absolutely. so you talked about the schism has been growing for a while now in terms of the union members as a voting bloc, do you get a sense of a difference between sort of what we're seeing now and 2020, or maybe even 2016 yeah. >> i mean, so i think that one thing that's different now is union members are going to have to think about the realities of

this race and the identities of the candidates that are being presented. so the polls showed a very different outlook between candidate harris and candidate biden. whether that has to do with biden being from scranton, pennsylvania being union joe and that type of narrative and candidate harris being more of sort of what's perceived as a coastal elite. >> female as well. will that make a difference, right there, all of these identity differences exactly. >> and i think that that, that played out in 2016, we know that gender had something to do with the outcome in the rust belt back then. and so it'll be interesting to see if harris can overcome those challenges, which of course are innately more difficult for someone in her position maybe bigger picture if i can ask you how much does it actually matter? >> i mean, i ran through the

numbers earlier, union membership has been declining dramatically over the past few decades yeah, that's that's true. >> i think that it really does matter though, because in these states the margin of votes is going to be very slim and union members are traditionally very engaged voters. this is a constituent you can see that you can expect to turn up at the polls but their vote is still sort of up in the air. and that's exactly what these candidates are trying to get at. those, those middle voters that are, that are still not on staunchly on one side or the other so i do think that the votes are quite important. i also think that they have more impact than just the immediate person that's a member of the union because of union families and that's sort of a presence in the community. and historically that had a lot to do with the power of unions even people in community that weren't members of unions were

influenced by union you know, sort of moves and the fact that they were really present in those communities. >> listen before we go, you talked about their votes sort of being up in the air or the fact that unions aren't automatically supporting democrats anymore, that their votes are up for grabs. i mean, could that be better for the union members themselves? >> well, look, i actually talked to members who thought exactly that, that they wanted to see both parties competing for their votes and they thought that maybe that would be better for them, that if the democrats had to sort of compete for their votes, then they might actually deliver on some of these promises. and really prioritized labor. but i mean, i think that i think that it depends on where you sit, right and for democrats right now, it is, it is concerning that this is a constituency that historically was very close to the democratic party

and is now it clearly has moved away it's gonna be really fascinating. >> see how it all plays out in november. i really appreciate getting your take on all this. lanny newman. thank you so much. >> thanks. kim all alright, and unexpected twist in the case of a kentucky sheriff charged with murdering a judge, the lawman, sheriff, shawn mickey stines, was also previously accused of ignoring deputies alleged sexual coercion of an accused woman, and both the judges murder and the the abuse occurred in judge kevin mullins chambers, sheriff stines is charged with murdering judge mullins after an argument. >> is deputy ben fields was charged with multiple crimes, including rape. he was given a suspended sentence after a plea deal. sheriff stines was deposed earlier this week. an ongoing related federal lawsuit well, the worst is far from over in europe where a deadly floods continue to devastate significant portions of the

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swept everything away. >> we are all left with nothing and covered him there was no way to do anything. i had water up to the window outside and inside it was up to mid calf. i have a single story house, so i lost everything european commission president ursula von der leyen announced $11 billion will be given to member nations hit by the heartbreaking floods caused by storm boris it's nicknamed the doomsday glacier and that may be no exaggeration. >> scientists using ice-breaking ships and underwater robots have found that the thwaites glacier in antarctica is melting faster than previously thought. and maybe on an irreversible path to collapse it's ice loss is set to speed up this century and melting of the ice sheet, which is the size of florida, could lead to ten feet who are about three meters of sea level rise with devastating effects for humanity so for more on what's been learned, i'm joined by robert larter is a

marine geophysicist from the british antarctic survey. and he's in cambridge, england. thank you so much for being here with us. so just just a start off to set the stakes here, why is that glacier called the doomsday glacier? >> okay. that's the name that wasn't given to it by scientists. >> it was given by the media but it does focus a lot of attention it's because this is the weakest link in the west antarctic ice sheets, which is the most vulnerable ice sheets in the world, because a lot of the base of the ice sheet, the ice sits on a bad that's a long way below sea level we have a good understanding of how ordinary glaciers in mountain areas behave. glaciers that sit on rock at or above sea level. but when you start to retreat, an ice sheet where the bad is below sea level that's something that we've never observed while scientists have been studying seeing ice all

right, so that brings us, it's a tricky thing. yeah. yeah. that brings us to where we are now so you've been among those who've been conducting a range of i've experiments for, for a number of years now and i understand you sent this sort of torpedo-shaped robot to get a look at what you've just been talking about that most vulnerable part of the glazier, its underbelly. so how did you go about doing it? >> okay. so there's a range of different devices have been used. the one i think you're talking about is one that was designed to be put down a bore hole drilled through the floating extension, the glacier. these glaciers they continue out into the sea and they have large floating extension. and the world underneath the floating extension. but the cavity under there, these are some of the most inaccessible places on the planet.

>> so what has been done is people have designed robotic submersibles that can go into this space because it's clearly, it's a space that's very dangerous. >> you don't want to send crude submersible's. and so that the latest technology in these instruments was used to enable it to go down a bore hole less than only about a foot across with a conducting fiber-optic cable. so that the scientists could communicate with it and get data back from it really find out what was happening, right? we're at the point where the glacier goes or floats. >> alright, so let's talk about what is happening. you've published your results let's, and i guess there's good news and bad news. so the good news, as i understand it, there were fears that if this were to collapse, it would sort of start a chain reaction of ice

cliffs collapsing that would, basically pile of catastrophe upon catastrophe, it sounds as though that isn't likely to. did i explain that right? >> yes. >> that's what the latest published research says. that there were some work results of one of the studies was published just a few weeks ago, saying exactly that. but the best the best they can, that it can be modeled at the moment they don't expect a runaway collapse to be initiated. if we get to the condition where we have very tall ice cliffs, the principle here is that if this is something all engineers know, if you pile any material high enough in a vertical face, you get to a point at which it fails and cracks and collapses, and the ice is just in that respect, isis is behaves in an analogous way to concrete so yeah, but the moments let me, let me, let let me jump in.

sorry to interrupt because we only way only have about a minute or two and i do want to get to what is kuster significant, maybe even more significant, which is the bad news that the glaciers melting at an accelerated rate in is on a path to collapsing. and it seems irreversible even if we cut down on global warming. is that right? >> cutting down, global warming definitely should slow the pace of it, but we do think that the retreat is going to continue now and certainly at least in the next century possibly sooner. it's going to accelerate so at the moment this area cover contributing eight or 10% to the current rate of sea level rise. so it's very significant contributor for a relatively small part of antarctica that is definitely set to increase the question is still how fast it's going to increase? there are still uncertainties about that there's a lot more study remains to be done to really nail that down. >> obviously if it were to

release faster, that would have more catastrophic events for humanity, right? >> yes. so right now, we have a sea level rise of around four millimeters a year. so that four centimeters a decade, 40 centimeters, essentially, if it carries on linearly, it has been, it has been accelerating over the last 30 years. so there's every expectation of acceleration will continue. and this is this part of antarctica is one of really the biggest potential contributor if it really if the instability really takes off. >> all right, well, certainly incentive for humanity to take, to take climate change seriously to try and slow down as much as possible. really appreciate getting your expertise on this robert lerner. thank you so much thank you for having me on and we'll be right back >> outfront weeknights at seven

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