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absent from that rally trump endorsed candidate for governor in north carolina this week, a cnn investigation uncovering deeply uncovering racist and deeply inflammatory comments paid by robinson on a porn website years ago. the trump campaign has yet to comment on this despite some republicans in north carolina calling on robinson to drop out with just 45 days is to go until election day. now, the harris campaign is seizing on this scandal, releasing a new ad seeking to tie trump to russia it's about killing a child because you are responsible enough to keep your skirt down. >> i did with him a i've gotten to know him and his outstanding donald trump and mark robinson. >> they're both wrong for north carolina also today, vice president kamala harris saying yes to another debate invitation this time from cnn but this afternoon, donald trump said no your, a lot of

people do. it is greater to tammy. i've already done to the problem with another debate is that it's just too late. voting is already started she's done one debate. i've done two it's too late to do another. i'd love to in many ways, but it's too late. the voting his cast of voters are out there immediately so let's turn now to our panel, cnn, senior political commentator and former senior adviser to president george w bush, scott jennings and cnn political commentator and former senior adviser for the hillary clinton in 2016 campaign. >> karen finney. good to see both of you on this saturday night. scott, let's start first with you. let's talk about this potential debate. do you think that the former president should reconsider this invitation or do you think it's the right call for him to not do any additional debates well, first of all, i should say, i do have great confidence that cnn would put on a good debate. so we'll start there. we did a great one in atlanta. >> number two, i've been skeptical about whether he

should do another debate. >> i thought maybe not he's done seven. take the biden won out from the summer and the other six the snap poll polls have always judged him. this goes back to 2016, not to have won the debate, even though it didn't keep him from beating hillary clinton, he did lose three to her. so i'm just wondering, what are you going to get out of this and is it worth your time when you're running a campaign and he's right that late. i'm not sure it would make a huge difference. you know, when you're using your time, you're asking yourself, am i am i getting something positive and i just don't know that there is anything to get. so i think he's probably making the right call here. >> and karen for her part, vice president harris seems very keen to have another debate. her and her team very happy with how the last one went. what do you think? >> look, i think the any opportunity to have such a direct contrast between the former president and our vice president is a win for the vice president. she did very well

during the debate. in large measure. i mean, her own performance, but we also saw, donald trump has really lost a step from where he was in 2016 or even some of the debate performance as we saw in 2020, we saw a lot of rambling. we saw he really had no discipline, no ability to stay on message and to stay so i understand why they don't want to do a debate. i agree with scott, of course, the cnn debate would be excellent and a great opportunity, but i but i understand why he doesn't want to do it and i do think it would be another great opportunity for the vice president. i think anytime she's and then environment, she's showing what a strong leader she is i want to talk about north carolina. that's where the former president is today. obviously, we have this controversy surrounding the trump endorsed republican candidate for governor mark robinson. we've had extensive reporting on that and scott polls already showed robinson doing poorly against his

democratic challenge or before our cnn report then you kind of go out a little t and think about the presidential race in north carolina, which is ron brownstein said, last hour has been heartbreaking kill for democrats since 2008. but it shows a very tight race there in north carolina how do you think this controversy might impact the presidential race? there? >> i don't think it's going to impact it at all. if you go back to 16 and 20, trump won north carolina twice, and democrats, one of the governor's race twice. so he's always been running in an environment there that was more favorable to him than it was two republicans running underneath him so i don't really expect much impact. i know. i think i saw trump did not mention robinson today at his event. it wasn't there. i don't i don't think he's going to be with j.d. vance when he's there next week. so you know, if i were in the trump campaign shoes, i think i treat it the same way. they're under no obligation to drag this guy around the state. but at the same time, he's a republican.

trump's republican. so i understand what the democrats are going to argue about it, but that doesn't mean trump has to embrace him and he did not do it today. >> and so to that end, karen, we played that clip of this new ad that the harris campaign trying to tie the two of them together. do you think that's a strong strategy absolutely it reminds people about donald trump's lack of judgment. >> remember, this is not the first time that trump has, and i know that robinson kind of ran out, was doing very well in the primary and trump kind of jumped on the bandwagon. we've seen him do that too. but it's not the first time we've seen trump go all in for maga candidates for candidates who are really too extreme for the electorate. we saw it in pennsylvania we saw it in the georgia senate race in 2022 with herschel walker. and so i think it's a reminder to voters north carolina that this is donald trump's guy. this is the person that donald trump

said was martin luther king junior times to and so i do think it is a reminder to voters that trump has terrible judgment when it comes to candidates. and basically will support whoever he thinks is going to be maga enough and it's going to be popular with his base. not surprising when he's in trouble trump gives him the heisman like we seen him do. time and time again. >> and i also want to talk about a numb we've seen a number of voting changes as we get closer to the election. and in this case, georgia, the pro-trump majority on that election board. has voted to demand that counties hand count all the ballots on election date. scott, i had one of the members of that board. it was the democrat on that board, both she and the independent voted against this. it was a 3-2 vote but but she was saying that essentially if this was so

important, they should have made this change months ago. it's too close to the election and that she's concerned that this implies that there could be issues where there aren't any if people have worked to 14 hour day and they human error or they miss count an end, it could inject somewhat chaos into this it's something that the republican secretary of state has called a mess. what do you make of this well, i understand the republican impulse to want to inject as much confidence into the vote counting as possible. >> so i don't discount that that's a good impulse. on the other hand, i think your guest and some other people in georgia, including some republicans, as you mentioned, have valid concerns about how this would operate, what it would do to the vote count, how long it would take to count the votes. the possibility of injecting human error into it. so i actually think they are valid arguments on both sides. this i've not gotten overly exercised about it one way or the other because my impression is there's going to be litigation and then a judge is

going to tell us whether this is going to come to pass or not so i you know, i think i think there are valid reasons to be skeptical of it. but at the same time, i don't can ever just discount the idea that there are people who want to have as much confidence in counting ballots as possible. georgia is an important state and i would understand why republican would want to know, hey, that every single ballot get counted fairly. i think i think that's an okay impulse to have. but again, i think we're headed to court here and we'll see what happens karen, what do you think i'm going to remind us of donald trump saying we just need to find 11,000 more votes when he was on the phone with georgia officials and the aftermath of the 2020 election. >> the three members who voted for this are maga republicans, who are election deniers. they still say 2020 was stolen. so i think we have to also look at the motivation. of course, confidence in our elections is a good thing. but i think it's

the woman that you had on earlier that official that you had on earlier pointed out now, we're talking about changing the rules the game in the fourth quarter with five minutes to go so that's not the way you instill confidence. that's not the way you instill make sure that you have a good process, actually, as she pointed out, that would have been something they should have raised months ago. it's very telling that it's come up now but i think again, the goal here, i think is really to inject chaos. they are creating a way that they can inject chaos and try to prevent certification of the election in georgia potentially, maybe while someone tries to find votes so i think we have to recognize that this is both part of an overall tactic that could have an impact in georgia, but it could have a larger impact on the broader election if we ended with a situation where people are hearing there's some kind of problem or chaos or fight and

georgia and what's going on and that's really, that's part of the trunk. strategy. we're seeing this in other states as, as you mentioned i think we have to be very eyes wide open about what's really going on here and what the truth about what's behind this actually is. >> and then just one more thing i did want to ask, you both about scott today. former president trump posted on truth social post really focused on female voters, which he definitely has a gender gap. they are, they are overwhelmingly supporting kamala harris and he claimed women are quote, more depressed and unhappy than they were when he was president. do you think this is an acknowledgment that he is struggling with female voters. do you think what do you think is the proper and you think this is the messaging that's going to help him with those votes voters of course, it's an acknowledgment of that. >> there is a huge gender gap. anybody who can read a poll and his moderately good at math, i can see that. and and look at when you're running a campaign and you're looking at these

different voter groups and you're trying to win them. it's natural to want to talk to them and see if you can reel any of it in. i do think he makes a legit good goodman argument about the economic conditions in this country. >> i mean, there are a lot of women out there who have direct contact with the biden-harris economy every day when they're going about their normal day at their jobs, when they're going to the grocery store to pick up food for the family when they're paying for things for their kids every day. >> i mean, they know how expensive it is to leave live in the united states under biden and vice president harris because of the decisions they've made. so if i were in his shoes and i saw a gender gap like this, i also would remind women voters of the united states the economy was better under me, life was cheaper under me, and it can be that way again, if you'll reconsider whether you want to vote for my candidate karen, i'll give you the last word on the pitch to two female voters yeah. >> so a couple of things, obviously reproductive freedom is a very important issue to many women one in three women

actually now lives in of reproductive age, live under an abortion ban. and that means she has no freedom, no right to make her own decisions about her health care. and as we saw tragically in georgia, that can have deadly consequences on the economy. i think we have to take a look at economic indicators over all the economy is getting better from where it was four years ago when president biden and vice president harris came in. inflation is back under 3%. we just saw a rate cut from the fed that's going to give a lot of us some relief. i'm looking at my own mortgage when i when i saw that news and so i think for women there, they will have more freedom under a vice president harris as a president, harris in addition to an economic policy that will create more economic opportunity, and will continue to bring prices down. and so i think that contrast there again, is very telling. >> all right. scott jennings and karen finney, always good

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breaking news. >> the u.s. is urging americans in lebanon to leave the country while they still can the warning coming as air airstrikes and attacks intensify between israel and hezbollah? lebanese health officials say at least 82 people died in the israeli airstrikes in the two waves of device detonations rigged pagers and walkie-talkies exploded across the country, killing nearly 40, injuring thousands. cnn's brian todd's book with a demolition expert about how those devices we're turn into weapons amount of plastic explosives packed into a pager can have a detonation. >> this big this was a person what happens to the person? >> it's gonna be catastrophic. what just took place here too? the human body, the impact shown on a mannequin, it was clipped to can be fatal over time bleeding out things of that nature. and apparently there were some people that serious facial and eye injuries could this blind you? >> i was forever. yeah, absolutely. >> and walkie-talkie is a larger device with more room to

hold explosives inside and more material to be sent flying. and it's often held close to the face this one cause even more damage debris strewn widely, pieces of metal launched as far as 100 yards and severe injury to the mannequin to be devastating if it were in your hand, are close to your head these two tests were done at cnn's request in the wake of the explosions recently of pagers and walkie-talkies in lebanon said to target hezbollah members and causing thousands of injuries and done dozens of deaths based on photos of the debris of devices in lebanon. >> these tests, use pet an explosive on a pager of the same branding and a walkie-talkies similar in size to the ones targeted in lebanon. cnn is not showing how the explosives might be placed or how they might be detonated 321 the tests were conducted by ryan morris, a former explosive specialists with the department of homeland security, who runs a firm which trains government

and military personnel. >> whoever did it, they're pretty skilled another explosives experts who examined a walkie-talkies similar to the model targeted in lebanon, said making thousands of bombs was a big and risky undertaking. >> you dig a lot of time for the explosion for them to be put in, for it to be connected to the initiating mechanism will be connected to the detonator job of exploding while they're doing all this is also there. >> and the devices are so small. >> i don't find any the empty space and it's difficult. >> how hard is it to, i guess, pack and explosive into something this small, someone that has any knowledge of this trade care can do it very easily. it's, you can secrete explosives and anything and triggering thousands of them all at once if they have all the numbers for the for the pagers, they just send a massive texts to all of them. >> all those numbers, and they go off the same time vulnerable is the traveling

public to explosions like this? ryan morris says, airport technology is really good now at detecting tiny, tiny amounts of explosive material in devices like this. and he says, it stays with you if you handle it. i got a tiny amount of that material on my hands and more says it'll stay with me for a awhile no matter how many times i wash my hands. brian todd, cnn, getting he's broke pennsylvania. >> brian, thank you. and i want to bring in former cia officer bob baer now for more on these attacks, bob, thanks so much for being here with us i'm sure you've seen so many people saying that this operation is just astounding and you would know better than most what it takes to pull something like this off. so what does it take from an intelligence standpoint well, it's been going on for decades. >> the israelis and planning themselves and hezbollah supply networks for instance, at these icom radios, his fall has been using them going back to 1982.

they know the model, they know the prices, and they get into european companies and set up shelf companies to start selling these things in lebanon. and once they start hand landing in the hands of his paula, they just keep on producing them and hiding his. if you just gone through secreting these explosives in a pager or radio is fairly simple. a coded message to the radio and they go off in this stuff, pten is fairly stable week we tracked one bomber who used to put it in sculptures and his house build ceramic sculptures out of petf yeah, they're deadly when detonated. >> were you surprised when you heard about this absolutely. >> i've never seen an operation. were so many radios and so much technology has been rigged ever it took an enormous amount of discipline on mossad's part or idf and their

technological ability is beyond pier. so yes, i i don't know if any intelligence agency in the world that could carry this off, except mossad i did want to ask you about that because there has been a lot of talk about who else could have done this. is this something that even the americans could have pulled off? >> well, for a start, so legal, these are area weapons and they killed women and children were not going down that route. and we haven't especially against his balah we've been very wary of that organization starting a war with it. i just do not believe the united states was involved in this israel may a bit of tipped off united states. there would be an operation on tuesday and there was but this is this is something we wouldn't get involved for it and we just don't have the capacities of having all these shelf companies in europe and asia to set up something like this takes a lot of money, a lot of

people know what they're doing and just wonderful access just to that point. >> just lastly, walk people through kind of how difficult that is. you mentioned the shell companies the access, the intelligence the discipline, putting it all together, just kind of what it takes from an from an intelligence perspective to do something like that. >> well, it to set up a shelf company for instance, and hungry, yet the company actually has to do business and it has to have people working for that company that know what they're doing and it also has to be familiar with markets like for icom radios or these gold apollo pagers. there is a market, there's a price for them. they're lebanese dealers and they've got to keep track of all of those dealers and they've got to figure out which ones supply to his balah and they have to the entrusted by them. and if there's a criminal element to his balah, which was probably used, which the israelis got into as well. but it just takes a look israel

has been decapitating hezbollah its military leadership going back to 2008 with a similar bombing in damascus, killed the head of the ride on force. >> and it went and killed his brother-in-law with a missile, killed fu'ad shukr with a missile. >> and now abrahim aqil, that, that is the leadership around nasrallah. i have never seen an even even the munich situation. i've never seen the ability of a country to destroy a clandestine leadership like this. is just not in history bob baer, thank you for that context, that analysis we really appreciate it thank you still ahead with kamala harris and donald trump, still neck and neck in the polls, we are running the numbers with our harry enten on both candidates, potential paths to victory. >> you're in the cnn newsroom tv on the edge, premiers tomorrow at nine on cnn

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with the election just around the corner, new polling showing a close race between vice president kamala harris and former president donald trump, as we've mentioned, trump was in the battleground state of north carolina today following the recent controversy involving that state's republican candidate for governor. but will this sway voters and harris is favor? will it make any difference joining me now cnn senior data reporter, we have so many questions for him. harry enten, he's going to run the numbers harry, it seems like a lot of people very interested in the mark robinson story, but there's interest in the story and then there's any sort of impact it might actually have. >> yeah, let's talk about the interests first. my goodness, gracious, when it comes to interests in this story, you know, there's some stories that are supposed to be these think bombshells and nobody cares. this is a story that people are really interested in. so this is google searches for mark robinson, and we're looking at a change from, since the kfile story on robinson broke versus the prior 48

hours, look at how many more google searches there are nationally now compared to the prior 48 hours before that story broke up over six thousand percent. how about a north carolina we're obviously robinson is going to be on the ballot up over 3,000%, despite the fact that there were a lot of people googling him before the bottom line is, we can't stop talking about this. and the american people and north carolina, north carolinians can't stop talking about it yeah, those are incredible numbers break down the state of politics right now in north carolina yeah, i wanted this single scandal impact the presidential race you were talking about impact. >> and the second part of your intro there. so let's take a look at the north carolina polls and this will give you an understanding of just how close the presidential races in the great state of north carolina in the tar heel state. look at it yes. it's trump, but by less than a point, we're talking like 0.2 percentage points. it's basically a tie. the governors race between josh stein and mark robinson. look at this. josh stein was already leading beforehand by ten points. i wouldn't be surprised at that lead expands a little

bit. i think the question is, does this race impact this one? and does the scandal impact the presidential race? that's a question i'm not quite sure about what i do know though, is that north carolina is just really, really important for donald trump's chances of winning the white house because this is the chance of winning the election if either kamala harris or donald trump wins in the great state of north carolina. look at this. kamala harris, if she wins north carolina, she has a 95% chance of winning this election, which basically means it's a must win for donald trump, even if trump wins in the tar heel state, look at that, his chance of winning election is 74%, which is pretty good, right? but kamala harris, it's not a must win state for her. it really is for donald trump if he wants to win this election, he has to win in north carolina and then broaden it out from north carolina. how is it looking in the key battleground states today? >> yeah, this is something i think we're going to do. every week before the election i think this is what everyone's interested in. sorry, this is harris versus trump margin in the great lake battleground

states and in the sunbelt, right? look in the great lakes, it's a very close race. i think kamala harris has a slight edge in each of these battlegrounds, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. she's up by two and all of them but that's way too close to call. you. look at the sunbelt battleground states you thought these races were close. look how close these are. my goodness, gracious. it's harris by just one and nevada, north carolina, we spoke about that less than one point lead for donald trump and in arizona and georgia, what we see is just a one-point lead for donald trump in both of these states. the bottom line here is, this is a race that is very, very tight. jessica it's certainly is harry enten, thanks for breaking it all down. we appreciate it. >> thank you cnn's chief media analyst, brian stelter, is joining us now to talk about the possibility of another harris trump debate. >> brian, thanks so much for being here with us on a saturday night. >> yeah yeah. >> we know that harris has accepted this offer to debate on cnn trump said today it's too late. it would be october 23. i know you've been talking to your sources back and-forth. back-and-forth between this

campaigns, what are you hearing? >> yeah, it really striking that harris decided to come out and publicly accept this offer today. and i think she's doing it clearly trying to challenge trump. so far trump has not taken the challenge so far. he has declining, but i think a lot can happen in the next few weeks, so i think we should view this is still a very live possibility because we don't know what the polls are going to show between now and october 23, even the great harry enten and doesn't know for sure. we don't know what trump's motivations are going to be in the coming weeks, but we do know there's only one debate currently scheduled, and that's the vice presidential debate. i've had several sources today say to me, are we really going to end up here with the final debate being the running mates, been the vp's. i mean, no disrespect to tim walz and j.d. vance? i think it's gonna be a fascinating matchup, but normally in a normal presidential year, you have that vp debate in-between presidential face offs that's always how it's worked before we'll see if trump ultimately comes around an agrees to meet

harris in october yeah. >> he's done these late october debates in the past, so we will see how that all shakes out. we did just have as you noted, harry, walk us through the numbers. it is this there's no way around it like this is an incredibly close race. we are an incredibly divided country with people on both sides truly believing democracy is at stake in this election. and i know you have been really focusing in on de-escalation when it comes to politics and how we're all relating to each other what are you learning about this? what are your thoughts? just tell me more about that. >> honestly, one of the reasons why i wanted to read join the family here at cnn and i think this is a pivotal question for the next few months. i've interviewed researchers and experts who are really worried about political violence spiking and getting even worse in the coming months. so as a society, we have to find ways to deescalate. and i think that includes within media establishments we know donald trump's not going to do it. he's not going to lower the temperature. there are other politicians who also want to

keep the temperature really high, but i think the rest of us have to suggest the guy had been seeking out what groups, what organizations are out there doing this work. there's great groups like braver angels trying to help conservatives and liberals make connections and see what they have in common. there's a group called common ground committee that tries to heal divides, and promote candidates to seek common ground. there's also a group called more in common, and the name says it all. they tried to show neighbors that they're not enemies. they actually, our allies and those are just a few examples i'm not here to say the stakes are not high in november. the stakes are very high. it's just we all have to live together next year, no matter what happens. and i think the great conservative commentator george will said it best the other day he was giving a speech and he said, the way you lower the temperature of politics is to lower the stakes of politics right? to take away the sense that it's always a crisis that it's always existential and to help neighbors each other as neighbors, i think the media has a role to play in helping us see that we have more in common than we might sometimes

think when we're, when we're scrolling through our social media feeds because you and i both know jessica when we're scrolling through social media, we get a world that looks a lot more divisive than it actually is. >> well and of course there's a lot of people and enemies of america that would love us to be very divided that like to put disinformation in all kinds of things out there, right so it is important thing to remember brian stelter. thanks so much. >> it is due and i want to mention yan book network of lies has just been released in paperback. >> it is updated for the 2024 election with four new chapter. so be sure to check that out four years ago, it was a hotbed for election conspiracy theories and ahead we're going to take you behind the scenes. our copa county, arizona for a look at the extreme measures officials are taking to protect this year's election. you're in the cnn newsroom getting better with age appears to be nice to every thursday help fuel today with boost high

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with automatic, a semiautomatic rifles, because this is an open carry state since that night, security has been ramped up. >> the vote counts rounded by surveillance cameras, iron fencing, and armed guards near a couple of county is one of the largest and most competitive counties in the entire country. >> it's also a cauldron for conspiracies and misinformation. >> cnn is getting an exclusive look at how law enforcement now. protects democracy from chaos. >> now, unfortunately, this building his turned into a bit of a fortress but that's the reality of elections in 2024 it's primary day in arizona and sergeant jeff wolf has been on duty since dawn monday monitoring for potential threats our staff has been out on the road since approximately around 5:00 this morning for we

want to know that our plan is providing a safe environment but we don't want to project that were possibly intimidating the election process by having a large amount of uniform resources or patrol cars and things like that we have eyes everywhere. video surveillance, or drones. so we're just watching for anything that might look suspicious anything that might potentially turn into a crowd or something criminal. >> thank you, everybody for all the pre-planning of logistics. miracle. but county sheriff bruce skinner says this is a blackout week. all hands on deck, all law enforcement on duty. >> the heart of the operation is in this room so this is called the eoc or the eor, basically emergency the operations room or emergency operations center the hydrated stay cool and work together and watch your six years on mount sinai very home where they're counting 2020 change things dramatically

major event now, if it goes beyond just the election security, we've seen a lot of threats that's, that have come out to public officials elections, workers, and that's very concerning because your people that just, you know, during doing their job serving the public, serving the community, very busy start this morning for this primary election. >> well, when i came to the maricopa county board of supervisors in 2017, it was a sleepy but important part of government here in arizona. we now have to worry he about things like our personal security. >> bill gates is a republican miracle, but county supervisor, i could not quantify the number of death threats that we have steve terror today when somebody knocks on the door or rings the doorbell our first urge isn't to swing the door open instead, it is who is that what are they doing? why are they at our house and it's not just bill gates this year across the u.s.

>> more than one in three election officials say they have been threatened harassed, or experienced abuse, simply for doing their job here, miracle big county officials have invested more than 3 million since 2020 to secure the election center and the workers who will be inside counting the ballots, people choose that they want to rush this building. it would be extremely hard for them to do that should i think that elections, whatever come to this just kind of presence, i guess not. i guess i didn't foresee this happening. so i think the important thing is mr. prepare for that and that's what we've done now extraordinary reporting there from kyung lah, who also says that many of these officials say they are used to this type of abuse dating all the way back to 2020, and they've actually lost friends over election security counting. >> thank you for that report. just in what we're learning about a visit from ukraine's president zelenskyy to the state of pennsylvania tomorrow

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to muesli dark com slash tv the source with kaitlan collins week nights at nine president volodymyr zelenskyy is reportedly planning to visit a pennsylvania ammunition factory tomorrow during his visit to the u.s. he hopes to persuade president biden to allow ukraine to use western may raid long-range missiles on targets inside russia as part of his victory plan over moscow. cnn's, cnn military

analyst, retired air force colonel cedric leighton is joining us now and colonel good to see you. good to have you with us on this saturday night. zelenskyy says he needs these restrictions lifted to use these weapons effectively to win the war against russia. do you think he's right? and how likely is that to happen? >> yeah. jessica, good to be with you. i think he is right. it is absolutely essential for the ukrainians to have as many long-range fires as it's called in the military business as possible. different types of weapons of different granges, kinds of things that are necessary in order to put all up in systems is it the russians have at risk of likely is it to happen? >> i think there's about a 50, 50 chance that he's going to get permission to at least use some of the western weapons. >> chances are though that there will be certain restrictions on exactly what they can target. and i think the ukrainians will probably learn to live with those restrictions i know attacking

nuclear command and control centers know attacking certain things that will be perceived by the russians as a threat to the existence of the russian state. that would be the kind of parameter that i could see being established for the ukrainians in this case and russian president vladimir putin warned earlier this week that moscow would be in his words, at war with nato if these weapons restrictions are lifted i've talked to other experts. they think this is likely a lot of bluster. what do you think? what do you think he actually means by that? and what might that practically living? >> well, we have to keep in mind jessica, that nobody thinks that he's at war with the west. he's made statements others in his government have made statements that they are currently fight us basically for a battle for the existence of russia as a state, as an expansion state i, what might this look like? i think in this particular case, what you're looking at is the russians will

make a lot of noise. there'll be a lot of diplomatic movement on the russian side to try to convince countries like hungary and turkey to peel off of nato but that will not and ultimately be successful. but i do think that there will be a lot of pressure from the russians and there will be things that are on the more unconventional side, things like cyber attacks, sabotage events, those kinds of things we'll probably be ramped up and president zelenskyy says, he believes the u.s. and other allies are reticent to approve the use of these long-range weapons inside russia. out of fears that this will escalate this what do you true oh, yes, it's absolutely true. >> and zelenskyy has a pretty good to read on. not only american politics, but also european politics. he understands that there are going to be domestic pressure is on the various governments in the west to limit the war as much as it can be done and

there's also a degree of war fatigue. so zelenskyy understands all of that. he knows that there is war fatigue in the western side, but there's also war fatigue within ukraine. and he's basically racing against the clock to make sure that he can defend ukraine and has the means to defend ukraine. no matter what happens with our election or with any other political situations such as german elections, which will probably be coming up soon. so those are the kinds of things that he is calculating in this case. and i think he has because he has a good read on it. he may very well be successful, at least in getting part of what he wants all right. >> colonel cedric leighton. thank you so much. always good to see you good to see you too, jessica. >> thank you. >> so look, come tonight. donald trump takes his campaign to the crucial state of north carolina as the trump-backed republican candidate for governor. there finds himself deep in controversy. we're going to talk to the head of north carolina's democratic party that's ahead on cnn news

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