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nonpartin, meritocratic manner. if this last area of politicized, it uld weaken power, the edifice on which all else rests go tonn.com/fareed foa linko my cumn th week. anlet's get arted. >> my ne guest is one of the american politic hillary rodham clintonas of course then us nator from neworkas and then served under president barak oba as secretary of state in 2016, she made history as the fst wom nomated by a major pay to run for president.ore recently, she's addeunersity professoand broadway producer to her lt of accomplishments these experiences among many others, are explored in henew

book, something lost, something gained. secretary lce back. ank you so much. 's great be back with u. this is su a terfic bo. fascinating and wide ranging and personal iant to start by asking you about, you talked a t in t book about wh it meant to be a woman in pits and yo path to it d be oked ts up, but when you ean, i went to welleslei believed colles were not co-ed. when you went to yale law school, lose basically the first year that they had opened it up, woman d so in someay you became a pitical spouse and gained prominence that way, fferently. a pbay it those dos doou think she s beerhance at that kindf in

order to make it possible for somebody to come after them. and as ai write in the book and in the epilogue to the audio oh version that i read, i didn't know how i would feel because obviously it was a huge disappointment not to win in 2016. but when president biden withdrew and endorsed the vice president, i immediately along with my husband, endorsed her as well. and it felt right it felt exciting, exhilarating. i think she is not only absolutely equipped and ready to be president. i think we need somebody like her right now for read and watson's this

is an election not just between two people, two tickets, two parties it really isn't election between democracy and autocracy, freedom and oppression, but also between leadership that wants to bring us together to do big things, to demonstrate america is fully ready to be as prosperous and as focused at home and leading a abroad because the world needs that and so the contrast between the two visions of our future could not be more stark and different i think kamala's campaign has demonstrated as it's already been written and talked about, a level of energy even joy the contrast is the trump campaign. it's dark, it's dystopian. it's filled with attacks on different kinds of people finger-pointing and

scapegoating that's a very different view of who we are as a people and what we should aspire to. >> why do you think he gets almost half the country behind them and particularly the working class. you talk about this in the book, how the working class gravitated toward the republican party after the 1970s and 80s, right? >> well, i write about and obviously i've talked and thought a lot about this. i think there are a number of reasons i think that people have high expectations for their own lives and for the leaders that they invest themselves in and if you are disappointed or feel like you're falling short or worried that your children will not do better than you did? it's natural to be somewhat unmoored and leaders can appeal to you. and one of two ways. and i've seen both. i've seen

leaders who say, yeah, you know what, we have problems? i want you to be involved in helping to fix them. i want you. i want to create the tools you need to chart a better life for yourself and your family. where you have leaders saying you know what? it's rigged against, you you deserve better you've lost that job to name the minority groups or immigrant or minority of whatever that is getting an unfair advantage so i'm giving you an explanation for why you feel stuck or disappointed you know, historically america has fallen in the first category. it's like, okay go west if you're not happy where you are have mobility to go find a job. i was saying to you before we started my father hop day freight train in scranton, pennsylvania because he heard there might be a job in chicago during the great depression russian you know, there was an energy and an optimism that has really marked who we are but

the combination of demagogic leaders like trump who appeal to the fears, not the hopes, the fears and social media, which can spread all sorts of conspiracy theories, alternative explanations alternative facts about why things aren't going as wel you would like them to go or what can be the explanation for that. so i think there's a social political, cultural, and technological set of reasons that add up to the political differences. >> you're talking about how important it was feuded to take on women's issues and by women's issues, i mean, helping women with their health care, with their child care. and you were frustrated throughout your career that these were seen as women's issues and not society's issues. and yet they had a huge impact on society at-large, right? >> yeah, we'll their economic issues to your right. there's

their society issues. economic issues and a lot of these issues like childcare, paid family leave then dismissed for way too long as kind of side issues, women's issues but the evidence is overwhelming that we are making it so difficult for families to balance their work life and their family responsibilities and if you are concerned about the falling birth rate, if you concerned about increasing productivity, if you are concerned about how we need to be supporting the most important job in society, which is raising children. then you should be in favor of things like paid family leave and early childhood education next on gps, hillary clinton has been teaching a columbia university after the break. i asked her about campus turmoil around the israel hamas war

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what's going on on campuses with the middle east right now? well, actually i have a whole chapter about that in the book because it was quite striking to me i co-teach a course with the dean a very distinguished political scientist at the school of international and public affairs called inside the situation room we'd love to have you come some class fareed incredible students, very large lecture kept class like 375 students from across the university, mostly students from seat, but the school we teach it and we taught the wednesday after october 7 and it was it was a very somber difficult class. we hurried through, are prepared curriculum, and then we basically sat down and answered questions for 45 to 50 minutes. and the questions were really

raw. i mean we had a student from palestine a palestinian student. we had a student from israel. we had students from across the middle east. we had students from asia. and obviously the rest of the world struggling to understand what all of it meant. but it was a respectful informative open dialog and literally at the end of it, the students applauded. that was on wednesday by within. >> a few days, we were doing an event protested the dean and i and our guests and being screamed at being called, you know, all kinds of names what happened in that period. and the best i can sort of unpack it is it there there were already existing groups within our country and

particularly on certain campuses like columbia cool had talking points. for protests and disruption. and i watched it sort of morph into something that was not student led, even though students participated but which had outside funding, outside direction and i still to this day, i'm not quite sure all that was going on with it. and a lot of students were caught up in that. and a lot of the videos on social media gave not just a one-sided view of the conflict, but a totally anti0israel pro hamas, not just pro palestinian view and for

me, it was distressing because look i have my own opinions formed over many years. i'm willing to sit down and have a conversation with anybody but it's difficult to have conversations with people who hold strong opinions with no factual and historical basis. and so in trying to talk to students, not just at columbia but elsewhere i would be met with slogans. i would be met with inflammatory language. and when i would ask, but what about, you know, what happened in 2000 at camp david? no do you know what happened in 1947? no do know how difficult called the relationships have been. know. do you know that there are aerobe israelis and some are serving in the idf. none of

that. and this whole chanting from the river to the sea. what does that mean? >> what river, what sea? >> that's what bothered me. and i think this year has been much quieter much more educational environment where people can have these conversations the ugly presence of anti-semitism, not just positions against israel. >> you can it's perfectly legitimate. >> i don't like what that country does, and i don't agree with that country's foreign policy. that's that is absolutely what you should be debating at a university. this was not that this was screaming at students who were jewish, it was blocking their entry into classes or into club activities. it was nasty and so there was something else going on here that was very troubling. and we now have seen evidence of you know, obviously

foreign money, foreign influence the algorithms on tiktok, which were anti0israel right off the bat and so i think that a university particularly has an obligation to, of course, protect free speech, but also to protect students against her harassment and against the kind of behaviour that interfered with their learning. so that's where we are now next on gps. i asked hillary clinton a very personal question about her very public manner one-on-one was overwhelming the idea that this fictional character plate april in politics is bananas tv on the edge, moments that shaped our culture premiers tonight at nine on cnn choice hotels as a family of brands with a hotel for any traveler and you want to be like quality end for the dad that gets every dollar and

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else and you have to make the decisions that are ripe for you. >> and i would never tell anybody else stay in a marriage or leave a marriage, whatever the easy answer is, and you know, for me and for us i think it's fair to say we are so grateful that at this stage of our life grandchildren. we have our time together. you know, i write about how we start the morning playing spelling bee in bed and you know, bill is like such a great player. he gets to queen b almost immediately. it feels like we just have a good time. we have a good time sharing this life that we've lived together for now nearly 50 years of marriage that's what is right for us and that's really my message. i write in the book, how during one of the darkest periods during the

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with you again i want to ask you, we are reaction to the news of the moment, which has been this. what appears to be an israeli intelligence operation that has detonated, exploded these various our communications devices in lebanon among hezbollah fighters. >> what worries me more is what this means as the potential of a much more full-blown war i mean, these devices were made to explode now, according to the information that come, because someone was discovering that they had the bombs. and so there to be exploited, use it or lose kind of devices is for a preemptive strike in a major

military operation to dismantle the communications capacity of your adversary so the fact that these things existed means that there is a potential for a much stronger escalation. >> and that is what concerns me. the possibility of transforming lebanon in another gaza, which i think could be a devastating tragedy for them. >> and why do you think it has been so difficult to get any kind of a ceasefire or any kind of a deal at this point, you mean in between israel and hamas? even the dogs between israel and has neither the government of israel nor hamas really want a ceasefire that to me is obvious. >> i mean, what is on the table is quite reasonable. and both sides should be in a position

to accept and until now we see that whenever there is a new development, some new complication arises and it is for me, clear that both sides are not interested in a ceasefire. >> and that is a tragedy because this is a war that must stop of course, it's started because of the renders terror attack of 7 october. >> but then it triggered a military operation that is reached the level of deaths and destruction that i do not remember any other been my lifetime. and as i condemn very strongly, the action of hamas, i also think we need to condemn the effect that there is an attempt to have a collective punishment of the palestinian people. >> do you think that the un has any role to play in a postwar gaza? >> that will depend on the wheel doing, of course, the

israel and the will of the palestinians we are ready to do what we will be asked to do but as i said we are not he are seeking any protectionism. what we want is a solution and we admit that for israel there might be an interest, for instance, in a coalition of countries, both western countries and their ip countries, to guarantee a transition for us. what is important? is that whatever the transition mechanism that he's put in place, it is done with the involvement of the palestinian authority, and it is done as a step for the two-state solution to become a reality because i mean, many people say the two-state solution is becoming not possible because you have the settlements that are moving on more and more areas grabbed in the west bank by both settlers

and by the authorities the point is, okay what is the alternative okay. >> can we conceive in the 21st century a one state solution in which millions and millions of palestinians who have no rights will they have no citizenship, will have a situation of total segregation that is absolutely unconceivable, or do you regard that as an apartheid conduct, these specific thing in specific country in i believe i don't like to use the same expression, but what we would have is indeed a situation of segregation of when people within a state controlled by another people. and that is something that is unacceptable so it will be indeed similar to the situation that we had in south africa next on gps, having just seeing the effects

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general antonio guterres secretary, let me ask you about the other war. >> russia, ukraine the problem it seems to me you face a secretary general of the united nations. is that a permanent member of the security council? russia has violated one of the core principles of the united nations, which has no aggression, respect for sovereignty what do you do in installation like that? >> well, i have not the power to stop it, but we had from the first moment, a very clear position this is a violation of the charter. this is a violation of international law. this is a violation of the territorial integrity of ukraine and for us we need this. we need to stop this war, but we need piece that is just an piece that is just is peace

that respects the un charter peaks that respects its national law and peace, that respects the territorial integrity of ukraine in its internationally recognized borders. and that is our position of principle. of course, there is no negotiation for peace. i don't think any of the sides is now instead in a verdict negotiation for peace i don't see a role that we can play but we can be clear in the formation of the principles that must be followed because they territory integrity is forgotten and the day this is becoming a bargaining tool that they will create an enormous potential of instability in the whole, in the whole world. >> but mr. secretary, it does seem as though it's very unlikely that ukraine will regain all the territory that it has lost, that it will regain crimea it is likely that at some point there will be negotiations and then there will be a compromise. and

unfortunately it will be a compromise of those principles because i don't think russia is going to give up every last square inch that does set a precedent for your which has not really happened since world war ii that might happen but not with our support you will never, you will never supply consider that the territorial integrity must be respected. of course. >> i mean countries are free to establish whatever they decided relation to their future but the role of the when is to affirm the principles of international law that everybody must respect the rule of law is a central principle for each society and for the laws society do you get the sense you have communications with the russians are they ready interested in negotiating at this point? >> i

ukrainians i also do not think so this is a dire i think that both are still betting on the possibility of a military victory announced that he has a victory plan to present in the united states, and i think the russians have clearly indicated that they also have victorious military objective so when you look at these two crises it feels like this is one of the darkest chapters of the united nations history, because in both cases they are ongoing in both cases, the un has not been able to be much use of all of darkest chapters of worlds and obviously it is for us an enormous frustration but it's a frustration that has a lot to do with what we have in today's global governance i mean, the institutions that are relevant in global governance

the un security council, the bretton woods institutions, and several others. we could go on and on in different areas of governance that exists in the world. were created after the second world war with the logic that corresponded to the power relations at the time, the global economy at that time. and obviously 80 years afterwards, they are totally totally outdated and unfair and ineffective in answering the challenges. the enormous challenges that our great grandfathers could not have imagined. >> but here's the problem which is to reform them. the very countries that are in power have to vote themselves into lesser positions themselves. that is true integrations and severity costume, right? but i must tell you, when i came to this function, the reformers public

counsel was a tbl nobody would accept that to be discussed. >> and even the community that exists in general assembly, they couldn't produce written texts on it now everybody accepts that the reforms will the council is a must, might be difficult to get, but everybody except it's a must. and we have recently a meeting in which all members, including the permanent five, said they were ready to accept african permanent member of the security council, which shows that things are changing which shows that people are gaining conscience that with climate change, wrecking havoc all over the world with artificial intelligence without effective guardrails and with the potential of becoming also another existential threat with this multiplication of conflicts everywhere many of them going on and on with total impunity that exists in the

world where everybody thinks that they can do whatever they want and nothing happens to them in these circumstances. it's clear the institutions, the global institutions we have need to be adapted to respond to those challenges. we cannot accept that this chaotic situation of the world is a new normal with which we have to live. we need to fight to change it and to find to change it, we need to reform the instruments of governance that were created eight years ago. >> on that slender note of hope i will. thank you, secretary general for joining us. >> it's a pleasure. always to discuss with you thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week, i will see you next week turning for ultimate friends russia

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