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accused of trying to assassinate former president trump was in federal court today as new details about his alleged plot emerge, such as a reward to anyone who could quote complete the job. >> and it's quote, raining bombs in lebanon, a barrage of israeli strikes killing nearly 300 people forcing many to flee israel's prime minister says his country's war is not with lebanon, but with hezbollah. plus a show of strength in the sunbelt for donald trump, new poll show. it possible path to victory for the former president as fundraising numbers show his opponent with a huge haul over the weekend and they're just 43 days until election shouldn't day. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central

ago, we learned that the man suspected in the second assassination attempt of former president trump is going to remain in jail a federal detention hearing for ryan ruth just wrapped up after three hours, which is quite long in detention hearing the judge there saying that he found the evidence to keep the 58-year-old defendant behind bars as quote, strong, the evidence includes a newly revealed letter prosecutors say that ruth wrote at least several months before september 15, the day that he was arrested after a witness allegedly spotted him running from the trump golf club and that letter allegedly pen my ruth starts with this quote, this was an assassination attempt on donald trump, but i am so sorry, i failed you. i tried my best and gave it all the gumption i could muster. it is now up to you. it is up to you now to finish the job and i will offer $150,000 to whomever it can complete the job. cnn's randi kaye, who attended the hearing. randi get us up to

speed on what happened here yeah briana, there was so much information coming out in this hearing, so i'm just going to boil down the most important and intriguing parts of the evidence that federal prosecutors presented. >> first of all, they described what they believe was ruth position at the trump golf course, as i sniper's nest? they said there was one reason and one reason only why he was here in palm beach county, florida. and that was to assassinate the former president. they also said in court that the agent, the secret service agent, who observed allegedly observed ruth at the golf course said that he was in a position that provided a clear line of fire to the city whole putting green. now remember, donald trump was on the fifth poll putting green at the time that would have put him about 12 to 15 minutes from the sixfold putting green where that clear line of fire was also new information and about the scene itself. there was a scope on the rifle that was found at the scene. that scope apparently was attached, according to prosecutors, by some electrical

tape. they say that a preliminary finding shows that a fingerprint found on that electrical tape does belong to ryan ruth. they also said there were two bags that were found at the scene and they had metal are still plates inside them he said they tested those plates and federal prosecutors say that those could have stopped small arms fire. so that showed that ryan ruth was prepared and just a couple of more bits of evidence, brianna, that's stood out. six cell phones were found and ryan bruce car, according to federal prosecutors, one had a google search on how to get from palm beach county to mexico. also, the cell phone data showed those according to prosecutors that ryan ruth was here in florida as of august 14, friday came here from greensboro, north carolina. that puts him in this area for about a month before this incident? occurred and there were pings on his from his cell phone to the cell phone towers in the area precise ping's putting him around mar-a-lago and around that golf course multiple times? over that time. and finally, there was a handwritten list of dates of dates, and venues where the

former president was expected to appear leading up to election day. they believe that handwritten list belongs to ryan ruth, brianna hurry, randy, and prosecutors also revealed some new evidence that was found good at the scene. >> tell us what you learned this was really interesting. >> this is the first time we're hearing of this, apparently, one of the fbi agents who testified in court today. the only way ms who did said that there was a letter penned to the new york times that was found at the scene. and that letter was tested for dna, for fingerprints belonging to ryan ruth they still are unsure if his fingerprints are on there, but what's intriguing about that is that they found somebody else's fingerprints on that letter pen to. the new york times. they won't say what was in that letter, the contents of the letter, when it was written but they un or who were who those other fingerprints belong to. but it is certainly intriguing and something that the defense zeroed in on brianna. >> all right. randi kaye. thank

you so much joining us now is former fbi senior intelligence advisor film mud phil, what happens to ryan ruth now, what do you expect his federal custody to look like? >> for federal prosecutors, as you talked about earlier, are going to lay a lot of facts. those facts include clear evidence that he he was conspiring to kill the president. there's also a second piece of this, and that is increasing evidence, mounting evidence about his mental state. anybody who wants to argue that this individual was in a mental state that didn't allow him to make clear decisions. i think is going to have a tough argument. >> but the issue is going to be given the charges that have been filed how long can they keep him without allowing him bond? >> i think the big question is whether he gets out are not in the prosecutor's obviously, you're going to say heck, no, no way. not now, not ever. i'm going to guess the judge will agree with him i also wonder phil, as you're looking at this letter that he allegedly penned, if there are concerns about other people who may not be in a stable state of mind

and what they are seeing now between that and the fact that there have been multiple attempts what do you think there's a couple of things you'd be thinking about when you're deal with a case like this, think about sort of concentric circles. >> the first circle is imminent threat. >> is there somebody else who is participating, who in the hours after the event when this individual was picked up would say, i've got accelerate my planning because the feds are going to be onto this. you're getting it in a second phase he's now which is really complicated because it'll go back months and years. that includes things like cell phone, email, travel, friends, family, and that is was anybody cognizant of what the plan was? might they pick up a piece of that plan in a month or a year for the evidence today, for example, about a second set of fingerprints on the letter tells me that the feds have ways to go to say whose fingerprints are they and why were they on their wasn't accidental or did somebody participate? i tell you, brianna the challenge here is to prove a no that is. >> can you guarantee me that over the course of the last year or two that nobody knew and nobody was involved proving knows is really hard. brianna i

wonder what you thought about some of the details that we learned today that he had this alleged would-be shooter had a direct line on the sixth green, which would be the next hole that trump was going to be on obviously, someone when they're on the green, their steering ending around, they are putting other relatively stationary. >> and trump wasn't that far behind. but we learned that a member of the secret service as they were going ahead a whole ahead of trump, and they were scouting out the situation. they saw this gun barrel pointed directly at them at this secret service agent and that, as the gun barrel move, they actually took a shot, then retreated behind a tree. and that is they came back out of cover. that's when they saw that the gunman had left. i wonder what this raises for you about the possibility of the danger there and just how close this came.

>> i thought it was remarkably close, but i tell you, i think i have the opposite of reaction of what you would expect and that is concern about what the investigation is going to tell the american people about how the secret service can secure the president. think about some scenarios. remember when i'm president obama spoke to that massive crowded chicago after he was elected years ago. what's the chance you could have secured that? every time a president throws out a first pitch at a baseball game every time the president goes to a basketball game, when president trump drives for central manhattan, i'm afraid that the pendulum is going to swing to the point where the american people are going to say there is no way that anybody could ever have access to the president and no way that anybody it could ever heard the president that is not realistic. the shooter got close. >> but i'm afraid the conclusion that people will draw is that can never happen again. >> and that is not a realistic proposition. briana. >> so i wonder phil at this point in time is you're saying this is revealing vulnerabilities. other people might be looking at how well, you know, other people who are

nefarious actors may be looking at this and how it's revealing vulnerabilities if this is as you expect, the secret service to be making big changes, a paradigm shift as we heard the acting director say in the interim, is this going to just be a very different scenario for how these protectees are conducting their lives. is that what you would expect sort of i have a story to tell you about that, but sort of, i mean, part of the story is how president trump, former president trump deals with the secret service going forward. >> is he gonna give them more forward, leaning sort of warnings about what his schedules are gonna be. is he going to heed their warnings? you, know the protectees don't always have to do what the secret service says. one of the most interesting and oddly enough, humorous moments ever had at the fbi was with director mueller, who had a large detail when we went into baghdad, iraq, were on the rooftop of a building. it's the only time the only time i ever saw the security detail tell

the epa bi director what to do the fbi director, a dedicated, decorated vietnam veteran there was shooting going on. there were mortars going on in downtown baghdad, and the director didn't want to leave the top of the building. and finally, a security detail, i couldn't believe it. director molar was not a shrinking violet gotten his face and said, sir, we are leaving the top of the building. now, my point is some of this has to do with a willingness again, of the person who's being protected to take guidance and you know, president trump obviously is going to sit there and say, i want to play golf and you guys got to figure out what to do about it. >> yeah, certainly doesn't want to play golf under these conditions. i don't think anyone would. phil mudd. thank you so much. we appreciate your insights. we are also monitoring some new developments coming out of the middle east where israel's defense minister says the idf carried out an impressive operation against hezbollah in lebanon lebanese health officials say israeli airstrikes have killed more than 350 people so far. and

that includes dozens of women and children. this is the single deadliest biggest day of strikes from israel on lebanon since the 2006 war. now this afternoon, the israeli cabinet announced what it's calling a quote, special situation across the country as the u.s. says, it is sending additional troops to the region amid increased tensions. we have cnn chief international editor, nic robertson live for us in jerusalem nic tell us what officials are saying and what this means. a special situation a special situation means the israeli government can declare it any moment in any part of the country the home front command measures, which say gatherings can be limited outside too only ten people, know more than 100 people at a venue indoors, if you hear the sirens go off, then go immediately to the shelter don't leave the shelter for ten minutes until after the sirens are cleared.

>> so they can put that in place at any moment now anywhere across the country at the moment, it only exists north of haifa in the north of israel where there have been strikes it's today. so that's an important measure that the idf has an the warning coming from the defense minister today for the citizens of israel is when the home front command tells you something, it is imperative that you follow those instructions the death toll in lebanon today from the ministry of health 356 people dead, 24 of them children, 42 women, 1,246 people wounded in those strikes 210 hezbollah missiles coming into israel today, according to the idf, the idf say they hit 1,300 terror for a targets inside of lebanon the prime minister today, benjamin netanyahu, told the people of lebanon, we're not targeting you. you're not

the enemy. hezbollah is the enemy the army chief for the defense minister. here, yoav gallant said that the what has been targeted today by the idf is the hezbollah's infrastructure that there had been building for 20 years the army chief of staff said this is preparing for the next phase. and when the idf spokesman was asked, is this going to be a ground operation? he said we will do whatever it takes to secure an allow our people to get home in the north all right. >> nic robertson. thank you. for that report. live for us from jerusalem. let's talk now with the former deputy assistant secretary of defense for the middle east, dana stroll she is the research director for the washington institute for near east policy. thank you so much for being with us. we really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> so we're seeing this moment sort of a new moment and a new strategy on the part of israel unfold here, netanyahu says, we're not waiting for a

threat. we are ahead of it how do you see this escalate to de-escalate strategy of israel's working out here. >> i think it's not clear at all that it de-escalates. we are in a new phase of this conflict between israel and hezbollah. and let's remember where this started. on october 8, 24 hours after hamas's attack on israel, hezbollah started its air campaign against israel drill more than 70,000 israeli civilians have had to flee their communities in northern israel. and there has been a constant barrage of missiles, rockets, and drones since october 8, what's clear now is that as israel winds down its military operations in gaza, they are focused on getting those civilians back to their communities. what we've seen is incremental escalation by israel and hezbollah until this most recent phase limited to southern lebanon and northern israel limited to only military targets, limited to certain kinds of weapons. now, the rules of the game are

changing. >> but you worry it won't de-escalate, right? that's what you said? >> so boolean, we can see from what just happened with the largest israeli air airstrikes in lebanon since the 2006 war, that they are no longer limiting themselves to purely military targets. with this number of civilian casualties, what they are doing is starting to go after hezbollah strategic weapons and those are imbedded in civilian areas like the bekaa valley and beirut. so i expect a civilian casualties to climb, which is going to put his ball in a situation where it might feel that it needs to escalate as well. >> how i mean, if israel is trying to get people in the north and they had been displaced now for almost a year, how do they do that? what do they do? whether it is militarily and diplomatically? to try to get people back to their homes in the north and to keep them safe. does this work towards that? >> the challenge here is that the israeli governing coalition added new objective for how to end the war, which is returning

civilians to their communities in northern israel. but that's not a military objective. and the idf, the israel defense forces does have not articulated exactly what they need to achieve in lebanon in order to de-escalate. this is the challenge going forward is how do you deescalate the u.s. administration has been working on a framework in which hezbollah's elite forces move away from the israel border, allowing israeli civilians to return burn that no longer appears to be acceptable for these really government and as we see this unfold, iran, which backs hezbollah, is warning of dangerous consequences that's a quote. >> what are your concerns? what are you looking for? there? >> hezbollah is iran's partner and it's irans insurance policy. iran wants hezbollah to remain intact act an operationally coherent, so that it can launch attacks against israel if israel launches attacks against her iran. so if a iran perceives that hezbollah is that point of operational

collapse, which is pretty arguable at this point in time, given how many senior leaders and how much devastation israel's done to their weapons arsenal and to their leadership and their command and control. iran may feel compelled to step in to save their insurance policy. and that's when we're off to the races. >> it's incredibly alarming dana stroll. thank you so much. we really appreciate your analysis and we are following an urgent manhunt in alabama where police and federal authorities are looking for suspects in a deadly mass shooting over the weekend we are live from birmingham just ahead, plus new battleground polls out today focusing on some of the sunbelt states were formed and we're president trump appears to be building momentum. we will look at those just ahead. and then later california is saying goodbye to paper or plastic, the gop governor just signed a law banning plastic shopping bags at grocery stores. we'll have those stories and many more coming up on cnn news central

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to 45. let's talk more about this now with chuck rocha, democratic strategist, who served as senior advisor to bernie sanders campaigns, both in 2016 and 2020. and we have aaron perini as well. she is a republican strategist for axiom strike strategies are right. i wonder what this is getting a lot of attention because this shows some movement. chuck, what do you see in this the polls of these sunbelt states will for all of my friends who've been texting me nonstop with the polar palooza that's been happening over the last 48 hours. i need everybody to step back away from the polling for just a minute. this is what happens in an election. we're all excited. there's lots of movement, there's lots of things going on, but you're going to see when you used to see a hurricane coming towards puerto rico and it would goggle one way or the other. that's what you're seeing. it's going to continue to move in a direction. but when it moves a little bit to the right or moves a little bit to the left. that's what you're seeing now because every time these posters go in and talk to likely both voters are just smaller group of those. so you're going to see a little movement back and forth looking at over time is what i'm mainly

concentrate on that puts us to borrow whether term in the cone of uncertainty there we are. that's okay. looking at as you see this especially arizona, where actually the democratic senate candidate right now is besting the republican senate candidates. you see a little bit of a counter veiling situation there. yeah, we've only seen once in modern history where you've kind of seen that senate break and it was susan collins up in maine. >> so that's something to watch. what i'm looking at right now is the hemorrhage is a softening of white male voters toward kamala harris and for that you're seeing her kind of make these overtures to try and bring them in. i actually believe in her oprah interview when she said i own a firearm and i would shoot you if you broke into my home. i think that was actually more strategic than it was a whoops, mike staff is going to have to clean that up because this has been a very careful campaign by kamala harris. she has chosen her words carefully and her venues carefully. that is an overture to try and say hey, disaffected white male voters,

if there's an opportunity for you to see me as a way to change the direction of this country. come look at this campaign. so she's being very concerted you think that actually i do switch people. i don't think i'm switched people, but i think it was a concerted effort to try and say, look, i'm not a regular democrat, i don't believe in the buybacks. i believed him before taking your gut. yeah, i'm not going to take your guns even though she has before openly discussed that. and as ag on cameras said, that when when when you own a firearm in california, we should be able to go into your home and make sure that you've got that firearm that is not how the government to work. so she's got a big history of very anti-second amendment rhetoric that she's now trying to reverse to try and bring some of these white male voters. >> and as a democrat, i promise you that's what she was planning to say, that there was a staffer there and going back to your arizona clip about why the arizona senate race is doing so much better than the presidential. i'm just going to say because he's got really good consultants, but i'll leave that there and it's personal for me okay. >> so when you're looking at this gender gap and look trump needs to make up with some women too. i wonder, chuck is

you're looking at that. if you see movement from either one of them or you think that they could be doing more on this? >> i think it goes back to what erin just said, like every time she speaks about something she knows she's got a problem with men and you're going to see her being very intentional toward i would say about going out and saying, i'm not like every other quote, unquote democrats, you may hear about on some other news station that's a lot more conservative. she knows she's doing really well with women. all democrats know they're doing really well with the dobbs the reason why you're seeing nonstop immigration ads run in the suburbs of philadelphia aimed because of immigration, is that they're trying to win white women back and try to do something with their man problem. >> the debate, it's looking right now, like it's not going to happen. another one, harris would really like it trump has not committed to it, and it seems, i mean, if you had to guess, where do you think this it goes, erin? >> yeah. if i'm going to look in my very murky crystal ball, that is the 2024 election cycle, because everything has been up at, i don't see another debate happening. donald trump's made very clear he's not interested in another

debate. this polling today, i could make a case where if his polling was going south and it appeared he was not making grounded some of these states because some of those polls do sit outside the margin of error in some of these sunbelt states for him, which are going to be key to his victory, where he would say, you know what kamala game on, let's go let's student because he would need another big moment in the campaign to try and not only bring in dollars, but bringing voters he doesn't think he needs that right now, is the strategy. so i do not see it happening i could not agree more somebody as somebody who's put together because it's politics one-on-one, it's common sense this is what you do unless you're losing, you don't take that kind of change. well, what if he toggles back in our cone of uncertainty? >> i don't think we go back enough. i just don't i mean, if you saw something dramatic happened, you've seen a man literally get shot at while he's on stage. and the polls didn't move that much. we are locked into where we're at and just a small group of voters make that decision susan and the toggle back portion, if he does that, if some in some world, donald trump decides he wants another debate, what he will say as well. yeah, kamala's losing. that's why

she's asking me to do this today because losers asked for debates because he's already said that before. so he has a way to get to yes. on this. i just don't think it's likely. >> all right. we'll be looking erin, chuck, thank you so much to both of you really appreciate the discussion and still to come a man manhunt still underway for the people, multiple responsible for the mass shooting in birmingham, alabama. while the latest on what officials say was a targeted attack >> sunday at nine on cnn stay tuned to learn more about this limited time offer from renewal by anderson when it comes to our homes, we only want the very best, particularly when it comes to choosing replacement windows and doors. hi, i'm an romer thrilled to be with nick from renewal by anderson. >> thanks. and we believe that everyone deserves to have windows and doors that look great. stand the test of time and don't break the bank. >> and with our unpredictable weather i. got. to tell you quality in durability, super

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today in birmingham, alabama, crimestoppers and the fbi announced there offering up to $100,000 as a reward for help in identifying multiple gunmen who opened fire in a cities crowded entertainment district on saturday night, no arrests have been made yet. >> and what police are calling a targeted hit that left four dead and 17 others injured. cnn's rafael romo is joining us now from birmingham. what more are you learning after this news conference today? rafael are trying everything they can to encourage people to come forward with tips at a press conference the fbi announced as you just mentioned, that it will offer if thousand dollars reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of any he anybody with ties to saturday's mass shooting, add to that, that amounts an additional $50,000. >> be offered by crimestoppers

you get $100,000 in reward burnli chief scott thurmond said, he believes this was a targeted hit on one person and the other victims were caught in the crossfire. let's take a listen there's just motivation from as carol mentioned, that some of the individuals that were killed have extensive criminal histories and because of that, there's oftentimes motivation from others and there's people who are willing to pay to have them killed. >> and so that's, that's part of it. >> and here's another key detail. brianna police say the shooters are believed to have used illegal gun conversion devices that can be used to override the trigger mechanism of a gun so that it functions like a machine gun that that would explain the reason why police officers here at the scene found a more than 100

shell casings that were collected on a saturday at birmingham. mayor randall woodfin says that they're doing everything they can to stop those shooters and get them off the streets as a community, we cannot give safe harbor or shelter to people who want to just simply kill people. >> we can't give them cover they should not feel safe in our community. they should not feel safe anywhere let me end with this police department has identified all those who died follows 21-year-old anitra holliman, 27-year-old, tahj booker 27-year-old carlos mccain and a 26-year-old roderich lynn patterson, as you can imagine in this community is still very, very shaken. now back to you all right, rafael romo live for us from birmingham. >> thank you despite mass shootings dominating recent

headlines, violent crime is actually down across the u.s. new statistics from the fbi show an estimated 3% drop last year let's talk about this with cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller john walk us through these numbers well, what we're seeing is a couple of numbers of significance. >> so first, going to the overall numbers and we can look at that graphic you've got violent crime overall. that's shootings, manslaughter, murder down three 3%. so that's a good story on a day when we're hearing bad news out of places like birmingham, property crime, overall, down two 2.4% so that is from 2022 to 2023. those are the numbers we're looking at based on the fbi's correlating them if you zoom back though and you get the larger story, which is what's the five-year trend, will take a look at our other graphic, which is, you see that over the time, say from the five-year

analysis, murder is actually up almost 10%. aggravated assault up almost 7%, 6.5% so you see that we are not where we were before pre-pandemic, pre criminal justice forum laws in many states prix the defund, the police movement all of which have different effects on police agencies across the country the crime rates have become obviously a central political issue, which i think is why it's so important to look at them and see what were the truth is here, you have former president trump accusing president biden, vice president harris have been weak on crime. >> what are the statistics showing i mean, what the statistics tell us is that in 2014, 2015, right up through about 20:16, 2017? >> we actually entered from a crime standpoint, the safest

least violent period in american history in terms of violent crime and crime in general after the shakeup caused by those other elements, pandemic reaction to the george floyd protests police department's shrinking budgets being cut. so many different things that contributed to that we saw that crime start to creep up again dramatically in 2020. and then we've been seeing these declines happen so there's good news and there's bad news. won the big picture is crime is still trending down that's positive, but to, as we just saw in birmingham, as we see in baltimore, as we've seen in chicago, milwaukee, so many major cities, they struggle with violent crime and guns and shootings and murders that result from shootings. and they continue to struggle with them and there working on new strategies every day to try and

overcome that yeah. >> john miller, thank you so much. we do appreciate it. >> thanks brianna still to come california filed the lawsuit against exxonmobil, aclu, accusing the company of decades of deception. >> we'll explain why ahead. >> straight, things. in changing not changed sexual orientation of not changing the political party gold or the how with what we got here. okay car saturday, october 5th on cnn thanks feel

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but the headline here is that amman, alissa has been found guilty of ten counts of murder stephanie elam has been following this trial. stephanie alyssa hadn't denied carrying out the murders he did plead insanity. the jury had to decide whether the gunman was of sound mind, and they did think that he was exactly what we're learning right now. i was just listening. i got through 27 of the counts so far of the ten counts of murder, which he was found guilty of first-degree here, first-degree murder here that they're saying that he is guilty of it is not at issue in this case, whether or not he was the one who pulled this gun when he walked into a king soopers grocery store in boulder, colorado on march 22, 2021? that was not the issue here. what the jurors had to decide was was he legally insane at the time? what they were looking to do is the jurors needed to see if he was able to form intent and also, could he distinguish right from

wrong. now, if you listen to the defense, the defense had said that while they were not contesting whether or not he was the shooter, they were arguing, quote, he was in the throes of a psychotic episode at the time they also said that he had severe treatment resist justin form of schizophrenia. they also said that alice was telling psychologists that he has heard consistent voices. now, we do know that the jurors were deliberating in this case for about 5.5 hours before they came back with this verdict where which we are still hearing the results of it so far, every count that i heard for today. he had been found guilty and i'm sitting here watching the feed of alissa in court and he's just been taking notes the whole time listening to this, looking pretty impassive, an unmoved as we are hearing these counts being read out loud. what's also noteworthy in this case is that a judge ruled just last year that he was fit to stand trial that first it was decided that he wasn't fit now, ruling that he was fit and that's how

we've ended up here. i know this seems like a really long time, but as is working its way through the legal system, getting to that that decision made last november that he could stand trial and now hearing in this case that those ten people that lost their lives as well as the 38 other counts of attempted murder that ahmad alissa and who's now 25-years-old, is now being found guilty in this case right now, stephanie elam. thank you. this shooting, of course, happening in march of 2021 at that king soopers grocery store in colorado. ten people losing their lives that day. stephanie elam. thank you for the report and we'll be right back night with abby phillip tonight at ten eastern on cnn. i want to turn to the issue of abortion for 52 years. they've been trying to get roe v. wade into the states. i did a great service in doing it. it took courage to do it. and the supreme court had great courage in doing it. >> i have talked with women

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calls it a decade's long campaign of deception in traditional old-school media and on social media, trying thank to convince, he says to convince the public that plastic recycling is the answer to plastic pollution. and he says, it absolutely is not an exon exxonmobil knows that it is not. he said that economically, technically, a lot of plastic cannot be recycled and he said recycling rates in this country for plastic are about 5%. so his argument is by claiming that they can solve this problem of plastic pollution by recycling exxonmobil has actually lead to consumers using more plastic take a listen something else. he said the company has propped up sham solutions manipulated the public and lied to consumers it's time exxon mobil pays the price for its deceit and microplastics have

been found in our lungs. >> maternal and a placental tissue, breast milk, and blood and the ag says that microplastics have also been found in our drinking water, in our food and on our beaches. and just to give you an idea of how big a chunk of the pollution problem plastics are. the state claims that over the millions of tons of trash found on california beaches over the past few decades, more than 80% of that is plastic. and the state traces that back to exxonmobil. we of course reached out attacks on mobile, haven't heard from them yet, but what the aegean california is asking for, he is saying exxonmobil stop lying about how effect recycling is, and also, he wants them to pay some civil penalties. >> brianna the ban on plastic shopping bags hasn't california tried this before? yes california has tried this before and it didn't really go very well. so back in 2016, they banned osin single

use shopping bags and replace them with thick four times thicker plastic bags that are designed to be used 125 times each. but guess what? people don't use those thicker plastic bags, 125 times instead, they throw them in the trash or one of the sponsors of this bill actually claimed that the use of plastic bags has gone up and actually right now, californians, each californian is throwing away about 500 plus plastic bags a year. and that is why this new law is required. know plastic whatsoever. only paper. so no plastic bags will be getting thrown away. finally, when it kicks in 2026. let's see if it works second time around, brianna. >> yeah. let's see. all right. nick watt. thank you so much. when we come back, why pesto is just the best to and no, i'm not talking about the delicious pasta sauce although we do enjoy that too

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