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>> two candidates, they're dueling economic messages and the former president's claims about the two attempts on his life and iran, plus the very latest on hurricane helene now forecast to reach category four heading for the florida panhandle good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight, keeping them honest with politics specifically the brand of it, which runs on falsehoods and fear. and frankly, racism the latest example, louisiana republican congressman clay higgins, this guy, now it doesn't have much of a record of accomplishment in the house, but today, he's certainly got noticed this is what he posted on social media, quoting the congressman now, lol, these haitians are wild, eating pets, voodoo, nastya's country in the western hemisphere, colt's slapstick gangsters, but if they don't feel all sophisticated now filing charges against our president and vp, all these thugs better get their mind right and their out of our country before january 20. so a couple of things to unpack here, voodoo, other ways, a streaming service that's owned by fandango, he obviously meant

the religion voodoo, but just knows nothing about it. more importantly, he is slurring an entire country and everyone from that country men, women, and children people who are in this country legally, and americans of haitian dissent. he seems particularly riled up that a haitian american organization would have the temerity to have taken legal action if they don't feel all sophisticated. now he tweeted late today, he took down that tweet and how speaker johnson said that higgins regrets the post he was approached on the floor by colleagues who said that was offensive. >> he went to the back. i just talked about it. he said he went to the back and he prayed about it and he regretted it and he pulled the post down. that's what you want a gentleman to do. i'm sure he probably regrets some of the language used, but, you know, we move forward. we believe in redemption around here yeah. he went to the back and he prayed real hard about it and he regrets it. >> nevertheless, house democrats brought a motion to censure the congressman which drew this objection from majority leader steve scalise.

>> for what purposes, gentleman from louisiana seek recognition first of all, the tweet has been deleted already in remove, but i object to what purpose do the motion and if we want to to spend every kind of mumbled out on the other side, we'll be happy to do it on them and has not been recognized the censure motion has been pushed back until after the election. >> now, clay higgins, language might surprise difficult to figure out these sorts of his inspiration about haitians eating their pets in springfield. >> they're eating the dogs. the people that came in, they're eating the cats. they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there of course, no evidence that has been debunked. but again, these are not original ideas. congressman higgins is coming up with like when he said they better get their assets out of the country. we all know where that came from two do you think springfield will ever be the

same? i don't think the fact is and i'll say it now you have to get them the hell out gaffe to get them out. >> i'm sorry again them out can have destroyed it before congressman higgins was in congress, he was in local law enforcement in louisiana. that's right. >> he had the power to arrest people. and if you read up on him, you'll see he has something of a track record on outrageous statements and other things as the co-founder of harvard university's niemann media lab discovered, the congressman has cited in a newspaper article in the bayou brief back in 19 in 92 when he was voting for former kkk grand wizard, david duke to be the governor of louisiana. now back then, there were a lot of people who said they just didn't believe that duke was the racist. he was being made out to be in the liberal media and they were going to vote for him, but apparently not clay higgins. he knew full well and voted for him anyway, he told a reporter, quote regardless of

the fact that david's a homeboy and all that the boys or nazi and that's a real problem. then the reporter noted that mr. higgins voted for mr. duke anyway, in the governor's race, joining us now is congressman steven horsford, a democrat of nevada and chair of the congressional black caucus congressman. thanks for being with us when you read this post from the congressman, what was your initial reaction >> thank you for having me on when i read it, i thought of the haitian immigrants haitian americans all throughout this country, those in springfield. and in my district in nevada and all across the country who are living today in fear who feel harassed, who feel singled out and targeted by the former president donald trump by 16 j.d vance, by representative higgins. and it's this type of racist intolerance. this divisive rhetoric that must

stop it's why i have filed a resolution to censure representative higgins. it's time to turn the page as the vice president, kamala harris is set against this divisiveness that pits one group of americans against another congressman higgins has told cnn that he stood by his comments adding quote, it's all true. i can put up another controversial post tomorrow if you want me to. i mean, we do have freedom of speech. i'll say what i want. he also said, quote, it's not a big deal to me, it's like something stuck to the bottom my boot, just scrape it off and move on with my life speaker johnson claims he prayed about it and regretted it and took it down. maybe he had another talk with jesus and decided he's standing by it do the censure motion, is that that's now off the table until after the election. i mean, does that kind of finished? >> no, it's not. and it's not about the next election it's about the fact that this type

of divisive racially charged hateful rhetoric needs to stop right now. there are children who, are haitian immigrants who are haitian americans who do not feel safe going to school because they are targeted right now, my colleagues representative sheila cherfilus-mccormick and fredricka wilson and ayanna pressley and maxwell frost, who are members of the haitian caucus, joined with the congressional black caucus and other remembers, just earlier this week to push back on j.d. vance. and these made-up stories that it's not even true, what they're saying and it's time for this to end. but guess what it's this type of divisiveness that is actually tearing our country apart. >> i understand that according to sources who witnessed the interaction you and congressman higgins had a heated exchange on the house floor can you say what what did he tell you when

you talk to him? >> well i was supporting my colleagues who were trying to compel him to understand how his words are affecting the lives of actual people today. people who contribute to our communities, who are entrepreneurs, who are nurses and doctors people who don't deserve to be targeted. let's just start with that. they didn't do anything wrong. and i asked him specifically to remove his post and he's like i'm going to pray about it. what do you need to pray about? >> just do what is right and stop this hateful rhetoric. >> that is causing people to feel targeted. he told me no and that is when i said, if you refuse, i will take this to the floor. we will move for a resolution to censure you, and that is exactly what we did. and sadly, the republican leadership we're more focused about silencing me. then holding him accountable. >> and he used his official

platform the property of the house of representatives. >> he probably thought he was posting on truth, social but in fact, he told everyone exactly what it is. he believes we are going to follow through on this. it is not about the next election. it is about every day people in america feeling targeted. today. it's the haitians who will it be tomorrow? will it be you will, you know, what's interesting about this is, i mean he in the statement to cnn, he's certainly seems sort of proud of this, or is it bluster, which is he's made a career of it when he was in law enforcement and sort of, you know, being the tough talking sheriff guy, despite moving around a lot from different departments. but this is just i mean, there's a long history of this in this country and in many countries of demonizing immigrants of, i mean, it was irish, it was italians in the early days of mass immigration to the united states. i mean, there have been there have been people like this throughout our

history who have said exactly these same things. it's remarkable that this continues that in this day and age this still i guess it continues because it works. it works to demonize a group like haitians clearly, donald trump thinks that works, j.d. vance thinks it works because that's why they're continuing to do it. and this guy thinks that works too. >> well. >> the majority of americans are ready to turn the page against this the vice president kamala harris is set at time again we're tired of people dividing us targeting one community and pitting them against another. we want to build up our communities, not tear them apart. and i know haitian immigrants, i know haitian-americans and my home state of nevada and people all across this country who are here, they've been vetted. they've gone through a legal process to be here it's comprehensive. they have children who are trying to attend school. they are nurses

and teachers and first responders in our community it is this type of of racist hateful intolerant rhetoric that must end. whether it is against haitian immigrants or anyone else, we should be against all forms of hate. and what is so astounding to me is that republicans in congress just don't get it we're over them and we're ready to turn the page and move our country forward towards one that represents a multiracial multigenerational society that reflects all of us and the contributions that we make congressman steven horsford. >> i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. joining us now, cnn political commentators, ashley allison and david urban, also washington those national columnist, philip bump ashley, what does it tell you about the climate right now that a sitting congressman and felt comfortable enough to post something like this. and apparently stand by what he said well, it's a reminder that racism and hatred is still very much alive and well in our

country it's also a reminder that there is a leadership vacuum in the republican party right now. and i say that because the reason why he had the gall to post that and then have to sign i'd whether or not he was going to take it down is because his leader was the one who came up with it, or his leaders running mate rather came up with it and so when you don't have leaders who tell you what is right and wrong, you end up with situations like this. now the thing that is so unsettling about this is you mentioned in your piece, anderson, is that this? animals law enforcement, this man had the power. he carried a gun. he had the power to walk in the street and enforce the law. and most likely have the justice system behind him he now can make laws that are rooted in racism and discrimination and so in this moment there is an opportunity in november for us to decide which direction we want this country to go. when you do not have to like every policy of commonly harris, but at least kamala harris wants to

be in conversation about the direction the positive direction, and work together, right and left, black and white. so there's an opportunity here to begin to turn the page. it's not going to end the book of racism in our country, but there is a chance to turn the page page and say enough with this nonsense, enough with this racism. let's move forward to a better day in this country. >> i mean, it filled again there's a reason why this is being repeated by by trump and vance. i mean there's a long history of this. it does tap into something that's very primal and very i guess effective. >> yeah. i mean, the trump campaign has long been, i mean, his motto literally make america great again, is a call back to america used to be better used to be different and it's very much there was an unsubtle appeal to white american families getting together and not having to worry about immigrants in their communities so on, so forth. that has always been an undercurrent too. his politics and it's something that he reinforces and we've seen polling as well. i think this incident is fascinating in part

because we've reached this point where unless you've say the n word, people like, well, i'm not sure if that's race, it's not like you can't you don't get much more explicitly racist. and what just happened there. and yet republican leadership isn't willing to hold them to account. i mean, even just a few years ago, we saw stephen king from iowa who is this? just sort of dabbling and white nationalist mean you sort of ahead of the trend if you will, in the gop. and he's held to account by republican leaders in and eventually lost his gop primary, which, which was seemed like a sort of rejection by the party. but now of course you have donald trump and j.d. vance. and there's a poll came out yesterday from kff three and ten immigrants they feel as though their lives have been made worse because of donald trump's rhetoric david, i mean, is i mean, you're republican. >> does this is this what who is this guy? i mean, is this something that the league less standing by no. >> no, i understand. look, the guy it's a clown assure markets. it's hateful, despicable, full stop, right? there's no there's no defending that remark. it's it is the worst of america. it's

not the best of america. it's the worst. and he's a member of congress. he should be ashamed same for put it out. listen, there are legitimate concerns about immigration, about illegal immigration, legal immigration, but immigration, their concerns about the town of springfield being overwhelmed, their school district not being able to do get there legitimate concerns. we should have discussions about it here on nantucket, a tiny island about 15,000 be around residents. this passed last week the ice came over and took for sexual predators, gotaways who are here on the island, raped two kids, two children were raped by these gotaways sexually assaulted two others, two other gentlemen who had sexually assaulted women here on the island were taken away for for gotaways on this tiny island, picked up and pluck that, taken away by ayesh, it is a real problem in communities across america. we should be having a full-throated discussion about it in an intellectual way, in a constructive way, there is a problem we need to figure out how to get illegal immigrants out of the country. they should not be here, right? legal

immigration is a great thing. we're not going to deport everybody who's here i know that's a plan, but we need to think about there are lots of violent people here in america who are committing crimes right now. and if the congress wanted to focus on that, laken riley, there's a long list every day and go through and talk about real incidents would not making things up in demonizing an entire as you know. actually, violent crime is it's down anderson car robbery shoplifting has been up saying, as you know so it migrates generally commit do not commit crimes at the same level, commit crimes at a lower level. they understand the u.s. population i i'm not i'm saying it is an issue hsu and the immigrant community here on the target of two young children raped two other women, were sexually assaulted i'm telling you it's a problem here. >> i've talked to folks in the community. they are concerned, they're nervous. there may be other folks like that here. so while it may not be a big deal for lots of people, it's a big deal in lots of different

communities of color across america as well. yeah ashley, what do you make of that? >> look what david just described is awful. i don't know those cases and we do have an immigration policy, but they republicans don't want to have that conversation because if they did, then j.d. vance and donald trump would not be talking about the lie about immigrants eating pets, but that's what they're doing. they are not setting a hey, they're saying deport them all so let's have this conversation, but we have to have it in good faith. we have to have it and actually let the win-win bills come up that a conservative senator wants to pass, that your candidate doesn't kill the bill if you actually want to have immigration. so i respect david, but i don't take the remarks that are actually we being applied that maybe how you feel, but that is not how the leader of your party is moving right now. and so what we need in this moment is to hold him accountable. there was an opportunity for it not to be the person that would spread these lies, but that's why you all went with so it's kind of hard to say. we want to have a

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really know can't be sure because in the first case, in butler, pennsylvania, a great place and we're going back to butler by the way. >> we're gonna go back and finish our speech the fbi has been unable to open the three potentially foreign based apps. and the second case, the assassin, had six cell phones in his car, yet the fbi has likewise been unable to penetrate their guard they break into apps all the time. they had no problem breaking into the apps of the j six hostages he's referring there to people now jailed in connection with the attack on the u.s. >> capitol, they are not hostages. they'd been tried in a court of law and found guilty. he also said that if he were president, he'd threatened to blow around city is quote, to smithereens if iran were to harm when he called a leading presidential candidate himself. perspective now from andrew

mccabe, former deputy director of the fbi, is there a first of all, any specific evidence to suggest that there's a direct connection between trump's assassination attempts and iran at this point. >> absolutely none that we've heard of and we do know that the fbi and the director of national intelligence just in the last few days, briefed the trump campaign on an ongoing, what we call threat stream a concern that the iranians are still interested in harming the former president. so that is really a very separate thing from these two very local solitary, not particularly adept guys who have tried it so far, stayed at butler shooter was you know, we've got pretty close to what he was trying to achieve. and of course, the gentleman, the golf course did not. >> it's amazing. i mean, trump has obviously as long history of being very critical of the fbi and the justice department claiming today that they are quote, mishandling and

downplaying the investigation into his recent assassination attempt in florida and suggesting that i guess that they're not trying hard enough to break into these cell phones. just seems ridiculous. i want to play what attorney general garland said yesterday. >> the attempted assassination on the former president was a heinous act. i'm grateful that he is safe. and as i said, immediately after the event, the justice department would spare no resource to ensure accountability it's someone who's been obviously the focus of trump's attacks before. i mean, do you think they have a negative impact on the fbi and justice department's credibility. there functioning will they do now to be very clear, they don't have a negative impact on how the fbi does its work. and i am 100% confident that the fbi is pursuing every lead and pushing in the investigations of both of those attempted

assassinations as far as they can for his credit, the attorney general how's it been incredibly consistent about his concerns about addressing political violence. so there's no effect there. but the other, but there is an effect in terms of how the public perceives what the fbi is dealing. for instance, when the when the former president consistently lies about fbi capabilities and fbi i intense and says things about the fbi being political. those are falsehoods, but they have a deleterious effect on people's perception of the way that the bureau and the department do their work and that undermines the effectiveness of these two critical institutions that we rely on to keep us safe. so he is harming erica, not just the fbi when he does that trump, as i mentioned, i mean, he claimed that the fbi, while the fbi quote, had no problem, break came to the absent that j6 hostages as he falsely calls them, he says the fbi has been able to open certain apps to the man who attempted to assassinate him in florida i,

assume. i mean, what do you know that would the fbi have told him that as part of a briefing, is that something that they would disclose to him it's possible that they would have shared that sort of an investigative update with him as he is the victim of both of these crimes however, his thomas has suggestions that they're not working hard enough or they're not applying the full scope of their capability because they don't like him, is absolutely absurd. it shouldn't surprise anyone that the former president who, as i understand it, doesn't even use email. isn't really aware of the complexity of trying to enter foreign communications apps that utilize things like end-to-end encryption and very strong passwords. it is not an easy science, it's one that the fbi spends an enormous amount of time on and not not to beat a dead horse here, but the bureau has been arguing for over a decade, has been warning the country and conquer whereas

about the seriousness of this very problem which they've historically referred to as going dark. that is encryption gets better and communications applications routinely apply end end-to-end encryption. you get more and more spaces that are beyond the reach of lawful court orders. and so it is harder for every law enforcement entity to try to access, even with court authorization, you cannot access communications if they're adequately protected in some of these apps that's a big problem, but it's obviously when the president doesn't understand andrew mccabe. >> thank you. both candidates talk about their plans for the economy. today's speaking north carolina foreign present problems to lower corporate tax rates on companies making products domestically and continued to push for higher tariffs, which he believes other countries not importers and consumers, would pay. he also claimed vice president harris, quote, destroyed san francisco, called her a communist and called her the tax queen. speaking in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, she laid out her own economic plan, which was having a middle-class tax cuts and tax x credits

under my plan, more than 100 million americans will get a middle-class tax break that includes $6,000 for new parents during the first year of their child's life everything from car seats to cringe. we will also help first-time homebuyers just get their foot in the door with the $25,000 downpayment assistance on average it cost about $40,000 to start a new business but currently, the tax deduction for startup is only $5,000, which is why as president, i will make the startup deduction ten times richer and we will raise it from 5,000 to $50,000 the vice president also sat down with msnbc, stephanie ruhle, the interview just aired. here's her answer. the former president has promised to women

monday night to be in her in his words, their protector so donald trump who said women should be punished for exercising a decision that they rightly should be able to make about their own body and their future. >> he also then chose three members of the united states supreme court who did as he intended. and did the protections of roe v. wade. and now in state after state, you see laws being passed that do punish women so look, i think the thing about donald trump, trump is that, you know, i don't think the women of america need him to say he's going to protect them. the women of america need him to trust them back with the panel joining us is republican strategist erinperrine i'm wondering what your reaction to the vice president's comments are there. and i mean, do you think that message resonates more with women than trump's?

>> i think that her message there is really inconclusive for women because she's still has yet to really get into the policy specifics about what she plans with this economic agenda. yes, she's talked about family tax credits she's talked about home ownership. but how is she going to get there and how is she going to build a coalition to be able to get it done? because while she has talked about wanting to eliminate the filibuster, it's still exists in the united states senate and the american people, a quarter of them are still looking for her policy positions on whether or not they're going to be able to support her. so right now, she needs to be able to also talk about the coalition. she thinks she can build to make this actually happened for the american people. unlike donald trump who has stood there and being negotiated trade deals internationally, we saw nafta get renegotiated to usmca under him. we saw the tax cuts and jobs act under him. we saw that he did pursue tariffs as well as a means to try and protect american jobs and the american economy. he was very focused on bringing jobs home to the united states so welcome let me

talk. kamala may talk in platitudes towards women, women want and a woman like me would want is to know the specifics of her policies. she is going to pursue. >> ashley well i think what the vice president said is right, we don't need donald trump to be our protector. we need him to stay out of our business and to trust us to make decisions with our body. and i think the vice president has been very clear on that. the person who has been unclear on where he would actually be on abortion is donald trump when he someday he's going to support the flores the abortion ban and then some days he's not some days he's going to make people pay for ivf and some days he's not. so i think he's been quite inconsistent and that is why you see the ongoing gender gap in terms of women having more support and more trust and kamala harris, but to the economy part, i think that the vice president has laid out her plan. donald trump has concepts of plans. he even said he has concepts of plans on the debate stage and so i think that when you are someone like myself,

like entrepreneur and you hear about the tax break, or you hear about the first-time home credit tax credit you would get for buying a home, but you will also hear about how she's going to fight for the middle class and how she comes up from the middle-class herself and her own lived experience makes her the type of fighter that we want. i think that the american people are beginning and should start to resonate. i also think though she has to continue to acknowledge that they did inherit a very unstable economy because of covid, but unstable because of the management of it. and that things are still hard and that she can make things continue to get better. >> but i mean, obviously the economy is an issue that, i mean, you look at the polls time after time donald trump raise much more, much higher on the economy, on economic matters, then kamala harris doesn't mean the gop is really why she's got to narrow that gap has she done enough? >> well, she she actually has narrowed the gap in some recent polls, there's new people that came out last week and there's another one that was released this week, which suggested it was it was closer than what we might have. >> a very low double digits. i

think they've been single-digits actually people which, which i think is remarkable and i, you know, i look i give voters the benefit of the doubt in general. >> i think though this idea that voters are looking for detailed economic plans as fallacy, i'm back in 2015, donald trump said one of the smartest things that have said about politics, which is that it's the press that wants policy proposals. now voters, they don't really care about them. i think that's generally true. and i think this this charge that harris hasn't released to policy agenda is sort of a fig leaf. and i think too, it's meant to distract from the fact that donald trump's policy agenda is basically tariffs and he only really started talking about that when everyone was focused on project 2025, he didn't do these broad sweeping tariffs in the same way that he's promised when he was actually president so i think that american voters, one of the questions i have is, are they? saying that they're more interested in harris's economic agenda and think she'll do a better job because they're more prone to vote for harris is are we getting the heart of the horse before the cart instead of the cart before the horse on this. and i think it's really unclear and i think that a lot of this is just sort of sort of jockey person biden was on the view

earlier today and i want to play something that he said about about his vice president and as vice president, there wasn't a single thing that i did that she couldn't do and so i was able to delegate her responsibility on everything from foreign policy to domestic policy. think i mean, first of all, it's interesting how little we see president biden these days. i mean, it's kind of remarkable when you think, i mean, how much has it has changed do you think it hurts kamalaharris to have president biden out there? if she does, she does. she gain much by having him out there? >> the president resonates with a certain constituency, particularly white males in philadelphia, excuse me, in pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin in those blue wall states, he was pulling better than the vice president was. so having him go out and speak to

her in certain areas, i think is strategic i also think the reason why we don't see as much as joe biden because he's not running for president. and typically an election cycles, the president, he's still governing and still doing the job of the president, but he's giving space for the vice president to pray her own narrative to create her own policy agenda. so i think that in some places having the president out there is good and then other places, she is the one running and she needs to be out there communicating what her vision is ashley allison, philip bump, erin perrine. >> thanks so much coming up thank you. next, the latest on hurricane helene and the final preparations underway before it makes landfall is potentially one of the largest storms in a long time. also tonight, a 360 special report, a conversation with ten, an 11-year-old students across the country to see the future generation of voters is already polarized about our elections over. >> tim walz and j.d. vance in their first and only place to place to beat. and cnn has covered with the best political team it's a cnn special event.

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to answer questions you may have called now and we'll come to you, aidan, at to 14000 the latest now on the potential devastating impact of hurricane helene now expected to make landfall tomorrow in florida as a cat four storm preparations underway for a big storm surge and damaging winds in tampa, roads are backed up as residents evacuated ahead of the storm, chad myers joins me now at the cnn weather center in atlanta. so this is this has gotten worse personnel since last time we talked 24 hours ago. where do you expect the worst impacts to be it really still looks like it's going to be the big bend of florida way up on top up there, just to the south of tallahassee but tallahassee is going to take pretty much a direct blow from an eyewall or at least very, very close. >> so of valdosta, georgia. and you're thinking, wait georgia how can that be across the state line? this is going to hold together. this is going to stay a category two hurricane at least for about 100 miles inland. so what we have right now, this is 8:00 advisory at five miles per hour and that's what we were at 5:00 let me be

honest. this is probably not an 85 mile per hour storm right now, probably 75 or 80 is it's flattened out over the past three hours. that is absolutely great because it could be a 95 mile per hour storm but it's not there. we have two airplanes and they've storm right now, hurricane hunters looking at it, not seeing it yet, but i think it's going to recover as the nightfalls, the sunsets, that everything calms down, the sheer calms down, and then the forecast comes through as it comes all the way up to the west of tampa. at one-thirty. now, this does not mean tampa is going to get a category four wind category four is only going to be confined to that eye-wall itself, that coming up here into the big bend of to florida. and then really maybe valdosta, you get a category two and even up towards atlanta, you might get a category one gust that's kind of how it works. these big numbers you hear 13135 say very small confined area, but this is a wide storm with big impact. we're going to have hurricane force winds were going to have a storm surge of

20 feet, right? where our derek van dam is standing right now. and so this is going to be a big, impactful storm, winds, tropical-storm-force winds over the entire state of florida hurricane force winds right there into the big bend. but look at the wind all the way into georgia, all the way into asheville, shot charlotte you're going to see wind gusts over 80 miles per hour at time. so it's a lot of rain coming down as well. could be a foot of rain, a foot of rain in the mountains. anderson, that's going to cause significant flash flooding to chad myers. >> thanks so much. let's go to derek van dam, who joins us now, live. where are you and how bad could it get there? >> all right, anderson, we're getting our first taste of what hurricane helene could bring to this area where un apalachicola on the florida big bend area. and we're getting this first taste and i want to make this pretty quick because the lightning has really picked up and there's actually some signs on the local radar that there could be a waterspout just off st. george island, which is very near to where i'm standing

but the national weather service from tallahassee, very close to here, they look over this area using very strong verbage, saying that it is increasingly likely that storm surge will become catastrophic or unsurvivable near apalachee bay, which is very near where i'm at i know if this storm surge measurement tools, any sign or indicator of what's to be expected here with a landfilling category four storm, then we need to plan for the worst, this shading of blue is the storm surge, inundation of a category four hurricane. the shading of yellow as a category three. the shading of red represents the water levels for a category two storm here and apalachicola, what we're forecasting is ten to 15 feet, where i'm standing and that is twice as high as how i'm standing right now. this is just going to be an incredibly powerful storm, one that i'm talking to local residents here. they fear could be one of the worst storms that they've experienced and the reason this area so vulnerable is because

of the shallow nature of the gulf of mexico, which is directly over my shoulder, anderson. you could go out 50 miles from here and still only have ten feet of water underneath you, then that shelf drops off very quickly. so when you get a large expanding storm like this, well, it's going to push up that water once it reaches the shelf and it's going to inundate these very low lying areas like the appalachia bay region where i'm located now. now this storm is not only strengthening, it is also growing in size and by the time this makes landfall, it will have a problem storm force winds extend over 400 miles from its center of this could rival some of the largest storms in us history. >> derek van dam, i'm glad you're there. thanks very much. we'll check in with you throughout the next couple of days coming up next future voters and the state political polarization in america with your family. >> let you go over to somebody house who is really supportive of donald trump? no. >> no, they wouldn't know what and why not?

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evenly split. so we ended but up in blue, new jersey, red texas, and purple, arizona. the researchers spoke to at kids over the course of more than 40 hours. cnn got permission from all the students, parents, and guardians, or guardians before talking with them. obviously, and kids offered their unvarnished opinions. the candidate was fascinating, the experts first spoke to students in the spring before biden dropped out of the race? then returned in the last two weeks to see how things that changed for kamala harris study found that some kids as young as ten are already extremely polarized. let's take a look what's the first word that pops into your head? when you hear the name kamala harris liar. >> what's the first word that pops into your head when you hear donald trump pure evil which one do you think is more selfish selfish, probably. her kamala harris because girls are a little bit dramatic sometimes. >> and do you think that people in the united states are ready to have another four years of

donald trump if he's reelected, know why not? >> because i feel like all he does is complain and like you the researchers found that opinions of the candidates from these ten, 11-year-old spanned a spectrum as wide as america donald trump is given his lies in his heart. she even shook hands with mr. trump, degrade them for the debate. started the debate, which is pretty kind of when you're going against your opponent the study is designed by psychologists ashley land drum and political scientists shunto in guard my andrew m conducted all the interviews and showed the students pictures of the candidates and ask them questions like, which one of these two do you think is more honest? >> which one of these two do you think would keep us safer if they were elected landrieu him also showed them an emoji chart and our feelings chart, and ask them questions like this. >> i'm going to ask you how much you like each of these two candidates the questions were phrased to promote more open-ended conversations i love

our house, but it's hard one thing that the kids talked a lot about former president trump's legal issues how much do you like donald trump using that scale? >> oh, probably don't trump, probably hate me for doing this you really don't like donald trump. cowboy it. what do like jail early to be clear, while trump was booked and released from jail, he didn't spend time behind bars. >> 32% of all students brought up up the former president's legal issues. in general, kids who said they'd support donald trump did not see his legal problems as a disqualifier. >> hi, how are you doing today? >> this was in may before trump's conviction? >> should he be president again, still yeah. we can say, for example jfk he cheated on his wife, but people still love tim drove washington, thomas

jefferson both slaveowners, being a slave owners really bad. it's really bad. then but they still had two terms. so i think even though trump has done bad stuff deserves to run for president. >> and now, which one of these two candidates do you think is more likely to do bad things convicted felon, again, stole liar he's a convicted felon. do you think it's okay for somebody who is a convicted felon to become president of the united states? >> yes many children were also very aware of the first assassination attempt on former president trump and which one do you think is tougher trump? >> because he did survive a gunshot and does anything else make them tougher? do you think

or was it mostly his reaction to that? >> he's also pretty brave i mean, if i was president, i was talking to were found a lot of people out would be really scared. or why would something like that happen like a lot of cruel people nowhere else. >> and it's tough like whenever something like that happens to them, not want to take cow somebody else that they don't like yeah. and how does that make you feel nervous because like you never know one day be used for vice president harris students from both schools had a lot to say about her race and gender so do you think it matters more to voters that she's a woman or that she's a person of color. i don't really like about like what color she is. i just kept like the personality and like what she wants, what she wants to do, do you think people would be bothered at all by the fact that kamala harris's you know, half black and half nelke

indian american no, because barack obama was elected twice my two terms serve all eight years. >> it'd be good for us to have i'm a black woman as president for the first time in history yeah, but my vote is still on trump at 86% of all students are researcher talk to thought america was ready for a woman president of color and do you think people in the are ready for a woman president? >> yeah. >> because it hasn't been a woman posted. >> it has been one yet the fact that she's a woman and she's black, that could help kids who are like her or are different feel a lot more accepted still, some students had different views about gender. i just feel like a boys would probably be better as president. but she's pretty and stuff. but i just

don't think i want and would be all right for a president yeah. >> so why do you think woman wouldn't be right for a president in your view i think because only boys i've been president before that they would be more stronger the biggest finding that children in the study polarized with what researchers called more extreme responses from the blue state kids than the red state case >> he did add things he's like hitler he only wanted to be president so that he can adjust control. >> everybody. >> trump is supporting january 6 now, i remember that january 6 was a bunch of republicans believing trump i feel like they thought trump was a god people lot arrested. i think one officer died after

afterwards that was a big day the study found that these democratic leaning kids were about nine times more likely to express negative emotions about donald trump than republican leaning kids were about kamala harris. >> why might that be? >> psychologists? ashley landrieu, him has some ideas so donald trump is a very polarizing figure. >> and it's very possible that the kids are reacting to their parents reacting to donald trump being a very different kind of political figure than what we've seen before. so do the red state kids hold as strong of attitudes? well, not when we're talking about kamala harris, in part that could be because they don't know that much about her landrieu was also curious about how kids saw their peers and the political divide. all right. >> so do you think that the kids that live in those two houses would be friends with each other. >> they can is no law breaking that it doesn't mind if few are different by skin color or doesn't matter if you're

different by people, you can still be friends the study found that republican leaning kids will more open to visiting a democrat supporting household democrat-leaning kids were about five times more likely to say they would not want to go to a pro-trump house would they be okay with you going over to somebody's house? >> he was really supportive of president trump no. >> no. and why not? >> because they know that he's not he's not he's not like black people. so you will not do not be happy to see me with your family. >> let you go over to somebody house who is really supportive of donald trump? >> no. >> no, they wouldn't know why not. because like my mom and dad don't like donald trump at all a single day would you be okay going over to somebody's house whose family really likes kamala harris think could be fines. it's just about the personality of the people would your family be okay if you went over to somebody's house who

really liked donald trump? if i won't be real over here he'll, if i just went over there. >> sure. i imagine be a good argument or a fight may really foo fighters schunk forget, this is a study about ten and 11 year-olds and one issue they all had strong feelings on was taylor swift's endorsement of conway harris. >> are you a fan of taylor swift know so taylor swift said who she wanted to vote for? do you think that her vote is going to influence the election? yes. yeah. >> why do you think that the swifties will follow her lead? >> do you think that her endorsement would impact the election? >> yes. yes. yes. why do you think that she would have such a big impact on the election? >> because she's like very, very popular oscar for the score thought