encourage american businesses to invest in london, americans to come totally in london, americans just study in london, but also straight question, which is who do you hope winds in 40 days time and i'll give a straight answer the prerequisite though is asking all americans to get registered make sure you vote and don't allow, say respectfully, history to repeat itself. >> me ask you. there were just hearing updates on netanyahu speaking tomorrow since october 7, united states has seen a huge spike in anti-semitic incidents. it's a huge problem in cities across this country and i was just looking, london has been struggling with this as well. the cst, according to cst, the anti-semitic incidents nearly doubled in the first half of this year compared to last year across the uk. and this war is now threatening to expand in the middle east. what more can you do well, firstly, we mustn't conflate what's happening in the middle east and what israel is doing with hatred, jewish people, jewish people should not have hatred set against them it's not be

the victims of vile abuse. >> and antisemitism racism, and so forth. unfortunately, history tells us when there's a rise in tensions in the middle east, there's a rise in anti semitism. those of us that aren't jewish and he's provide allyship to our jewish friends, colleagues, and neighbors say no to and he sums view can be a supporter of israel existing, but be critical of the policies of netanyahu. you can be supportive of your jewish friends and colleagues, neighbors. but be critical of the policies of the idf. i think what we don't want to see is jewish friends, colleagues, and neighbor's house been scared to go about their business and it's really important we understand. yes, of course. i'm critical of some of the policies of netanyahu what the idf are doing. it's heartbreaking their hostages still being kept in gaza. but actually, the idea of can't carry on if criminally killing people in gaza, there is no excuse. fan simonson mayor, it's great to have you. >> thanks for coming in. your time. pleasure. thank you new hour of cnn, new central starts

right now. this is cnn breaking news >> i'm john berman in tallahassee, florida are tracking hurricane helene is to cnn. special live coverage is starting to get soggy. here. the outer bands passing through an the breaking news is this, the national hurricane center just issued if 8:00 alert, helene is now a category two storm. it has strained it has sustained winds of 100 miles per hour even higher gusts than that it is intensifying as it moves towards florida this morning, one of the biggest concerns along the florida coast, particularly the big bend area, is storm surge. it could reach up to 20 feet. the national weather service says that is unsurvivable, not just the storm surge. it that'll be an issue here. the storm is moving quickly, which means it will bring hurricane force winds up past tallahassee,

indigenous georgia, 85 million people are under watches and warnings this morning. a tornado watch issued for 17 million people in florida that includes tampa, miami, fort myers, and orlando. there was a whole lot going on as this storm pushes in. let's get right to cnn meteorologist allison chinchar with the very latest. and this 8:00 am update, allison, what can you tell us yeah. >> so let's look at the new numbers. so yes. so the sustained winds are now 100 miles per hour? that is gusting to 115 forward movement still the same at 12 miles per hour, but that is also expected to increase as we go through the day today. and you mentioned one of the newer things we've had and issued is this tornado watch valid until 8:00 pm eastern time tonight? and that includes most of the big cities here, tampa, fort myers, miami, even orlando. and we're likely to see more of these areas added on to it because we've had tornado warnings, we've got several active right now in florida, but also one up a north and south or up in south carolina. so it's very likely believe we will see that

tornado watch expand into portions of georgia and the carolinas as we go through the day and more of those outer bands begin to spread into some of these states. the storm is expected to strengthen even more reaching major hurricane status once we get a little bit later into the day today before making landfall tonight near the big bend region that point, it should be moving at forward speed of about 25 miles per hour or even faster. that's important because that means it can move pretty far inland before weakening back down to a tropical storm, impacting a lot of areas that are more than 100 miles away from the coast with hurricane strength winds. now, another component of this is going to be the flooding because we're talking a tremendous amount of rain for a lot of these areas. they had a recent cold front move through the ground is already saturated, which means that threshold for flooding automatically is a little bit different than it would be on dry ground. most of these areas you're talking widespread four to eight inches of rain. some areas not out of the question, john, to pick up ten or even 12 inches total yeah. >> and again, the rain is just

beginning where i am allison expecting maybe ten inches by the time it's done, it's going to be a very, very wet 24 hours here in tallahassee cnn is up and down the coast where the storm will have an impact. memorable. gonzalez is in steinhatchee, florida, first let's go to carlos suarez in gulfport, not far from tampa, and carlos, you're already starting to see some of that water push in right, john. >> good morning. so we are in gulfport. that is in pinellas county and we are in a an area of gulfport that is under 18 mandatory evacuation. and you're taking a look at the reason why you can see just how much flooding we're already experiencing well ahead of the storm. and to give you a sense of just how close the bay is, my photographer might be able to push in. you're going to take a look at kind of where that woman is walking there. that is a beat each volleyball court and you can already see where the bay has started to come in to that part of where we are right now.

>> it's not going to take a whole lot more for that water to go ahead and cross over onto the street that we are this part of pinellas county the golf poor part of pinellas county is known to flood. >> we have been here covering two other hurricanes the past two years and this is pretty much how it's always looked and we're talking about the fact that neither of those two hurricanes really had a direct hit. now, over in hillsborough county, just to the east of us, that is home to tampa. there is also a mandatory evacuation order that went into effect yesterday. folks that live around the bay, were told to go ahead and seek higher ground. of course, this storm is to the west of us it is expected to continue on the path that its on. this part of the tampa bay area is expected to get some pretty nasty weather, some tropical storms tropical storm force winds but most of it is going to remain offshore. that said john, all of this flooding is before the five to eight feet of storm surge that we're expected to see throughout the day. >> john wow that's some garlic.

>> you said you wanted to show us how close the bay is your kind of in the bay already. and it could get even worse as the real storm surge pushes in over the next several hours there, carlos, stay safe. let's go to maryville gonzalez, who is in steen hatchie, far north of where carlos is and i know storm surge is the major concern. where you are measurable remains a concern in that sense of urgency is only intensifying as the rain follow that we're seeing right now hurricane helene, just moments ago, we know turning into a category two, so it is getting stronger and stronger as it nears an inches accords us, as you can see why i this is such a big concern of the rainfall, the flooding, the storm surge, as you just mentioned, take a look behind me. >> i think the last time we spoke the water level of the scene, hatchie river was a little bit lower, but it is increasing. it is rising with every drop of rain drop that we

see falling why is this worrisome? because there are a lot of homes, right off the riverbank. there are businesses. we are actually standing on the dock of a of a motel and we know that this stock could be underwater in just a matter of hours now, also right behind me, you see that there are some votes a doctor as well. they've been there all morning long, but we do expect that this catastrophic damage will impact all of the property and the homes so that you see behind me mandatory evacuations, of course, are underway for those specific reasons, right. >> mel gonzalez in steen hatchie, right in that big band era, big bend area where the storm could make landfall thank you very much also, in the direct path of the storm franklin county, right. >> in the panhandle, again, part of that big bend area with me now is county commissioner ricky jones. commissioner. thank you so much for being with us. and as we were looking at the map before, maybe we can

show it again you are right in the path of where this storm could make landfall. what are your biggest concerns right now good morning, john. >> thank you saw her biggest concerns are what we started doing on tuesday and that's getting people evacuated from this area because we are such a low line county really, it's about the health and safety of our residents and visitors the storm surge, how dangerous could that be? feet like they're saying, it's going to change the landscape in franklin county. i can assure you that it is not going to be a good thing. >> one of the things that the weather center says is that that much storm surge would be un-survivable what are your concerns for the people who may not have listened to the warnings you've been giving? >> there's always that

there's always those that don't listen or those who just either don't want to leave i really hope that we can have a conversation after the storms over, but it's it's just one of those things growing up here. and the pinnacle, florida, it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when we're gonna get a storm, are we just done our best to prepare yeah. >> look, you're the smart one right now. you're sitting inside. i'm out in the rain as these bands start to push through and they're saturating the ground and then you add to that wind speeds of 100 to what could be 120, 130 miles per hour. and these giant trees and i know you've got them in franklin county there, here in the county also, these giant trees are real threat, not just the people, but to power. how long do you worry that you could be without power there? >> well, during hurricane michael, that was a significant amount of time. but i will say duke energy got everything up and running up very quickly

here in franklin county and throughout the area that actually stage from apalachicola airport they turned up place into a small city. and that's the place they used to base out of during their response. there. and it's open to them again. so if need be, we have at least provided a place for them to do their work and we are confident that they can help us get up as quickly as possible commissioner, i want to give you one chance to speak to people who might be listening right now in franklin county, what's important most important message you want to send to them at the start of what could be a very challenging 24 hour period? so i'll say this. i do mean if you just stay for a local station in that interview, i told him and i had intended to ride this out because we were looking to two maybe three as of last night, my family and i've made the arrangements we're leaving here soon after

this interview, we will not be staying. yes, there are still those that are first responders or sheriff's department all those people are still hearing in place those essential individuals however please leave just please do it. it's not worth it. just get out. it'll either be here when you get back or it won't. but don't leave yourself in harm's way here when you get back or won't. >> ricky jones, commissioner franklin county, you and your family, please stay safe. let us know how we can help. thank u for your time. >> and kate, again, these outer bands coming through right now 200,000 people live in tallahassee. >> they've never seen winds like what are forecast here, kate, over the next 24 hours it's really picking up john uses ip up for jacket. >> i'm starting to get concerned just about you as i'm watching you, this, as it starting to come in and you need to adjust the entire

milove it gets sticky though the problem is you keep the rain out, but the humidity in. so pick your poison kate, there's no right way to do it. >> i concur dr. and i'm just glad i'm just proud of you to be there for us. okay. we'll get right back to john. he's watching it all as this continues to develop in this massive storm is gaining speed, gaining strength and making his

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that he's facing still unknown this morning, but that can likely change sometime today as the indictment could be unsealed. joining us right now is cnn senior legal analyst elie honig one cough and let's go. this is a sealed indictment. what do we know and what don't we know? >> so right now we don't know what the exact charges are. we should find out later today when the indictment is unsealed, meaning when it becomes public, now, important to know this is a federal cases as a federal indictment so it's not being charged by the manhattan district attorney is not being charged by the new york state attorney general. it's the us attorney's office for the southern district of new york. of course, kate, there's been all sorts of smoke around eric adams for the last year or so. there have been a series of search warrants subpoenas aimed at the mayor and his staff. and so the big question is, what does each charged with, how serious of the charges and we may be able to get a sense from the indictment of how strong the evidence is. >> listen what's the next steps? yeah. >> so at some point, probably within the next handful of business days, he will have to make an appearance in court.

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starting to build right now and continues to gain strength spending into the gulf of mexico. helene is expected to become a major hurricane, category three or even higher in the coming hours. and move on shore later tonight, we're going to continue to track that. meantime, this morning and we also have pictures of naples. i'm being told you can see the surf very high there, the big waves coming in again, as helene continues to make its way there to the florida coast. this morning, a diplomatic push is underway to prevent a regional war from erupting in the middle east, the israeli military saying it struck about 75 targets in lebanon overnight, forcing tens of thousands in lebanon to flee their homes calls for de-escalation, ramping up after israel's military said it's preparing for a possible ground incursion into lebanon. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, netanyahu is now headed to new york for the un general assembly where an israeli official says talks of a potential ceasefire are a main motivator cnn international diplomatic editor

nic robertson is joining us now live from tel aviv nic walk us through where talks stand right now let me give you what the idf has just announced. the idf says it's right now carrying out precise strikes in beirut. what this has meant over the past week or so is that they have specific intelligence to target specific hezbollah commander's and leaders. we don't know anything more at this stage, but i think that gives you a headline. when we start to talk about the diplomacy. because although there's discussion about a 21 day truce between the united states and france and a real push to move that forward. the prime ministers taking heat here for suggestions that he might have already agreed to it. he has been very clear and said that he isn't so far or hasn't so far made any comments about this 21 day

truce proposal. he has said that he is giving full support fought for the military to go full force. we know that the idf is poised, is ready to cross the border in an incursion if they get that order and what we've witnessed over the past 24 hours. so there albeit a slight low and strikes overnight, there had been several rounds of israeli strikes into lebanon today and along the border with syria targeting hezbollah and also hezbollah firing dozens of missiles into northern israel, the medium and short-range missiles. so from a military point of view, we're nowhere near a truce, from a political point of view. it doesn't seem that that's anywhere near close hi, there because the prime minister in lebanon is also been taking heat for the idea that he might have agreed to this truce. and he says, he hasn't either politically, we're not there. and i think from the idf's perspective, they feel that they have the military momentum and this wouldn't be the time to see that momentum and into a truce

so i think the diplomacy if it's going to move ahead, is going to need a huge lift. seems unlikely at the moment. all right. nic robertson with the very latest on these precise airstrikes being carried out there in beirut by the idf. thank you so much for that and we are tracking two, we are tracking category two hurricane helene are expecting to hear more from florida, the florida governor soon, john, what more can you tell us? >> i can tell you it's been raining the outer bands passing over this date, as you said, jessica hurricane helene has strengthened to a category two storm. it is expected to make landfall tonight as a major hurricane, that means category three or stronger the winds could be higher than 110, 120 miles per hour record-breaking storm surge in some places, wind damage as far north as atlanta. and rain ten to 15 inches. this one's going to be a real problem for tens of

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pinellas county just to the west of tampa where we're starting to see some of the significant rainfall the last couple of hours as well as some of the flooding. that's associated mostly with the fact that high tide is his right now underway if you can take a look at some of the businesses just on the corner here, these folks started getting ready for a hurricane. helene a yesterday, a lot of them have put up sandbags, although it's not really quite sure exactly how much that's going to stop that water. and i say that because we've been out here the last up to a hurricane seasons. we've covered hurricanes in this exact spot and this part of gulfport has flooded just because of the storm surge that is associated with a lot of these hurricanes. keep in mind john, that although this storm is going to track to the west of us, about 100 miles west of us. this is what folks are really worried read about. the storm surge associated with this. when you add in all of that rainfall, as well as the fact that when high tide kicks

in, you have all of those three things come together at one time. and what officials don't want are for folks to get caught in these low-lying areas here in pinellas county where i'm at right now, this is a mandatory evacuation zone over in hillsborough county that a parts of the tampa area there for folks that live around the bay. they were also told to evacuate yesterday. and so what officials have been trying to do is just telling folks look, even though the storm is currently tracked, to go north of here, go ahead and try to get to higher ground. they don't want folks doing exactly what this guy's doing here behind me, which is driving all of this water, a john that's kind of the situation right now. again, a lot of this is happening with the store and still to the south of us and a lot of this is taking place without that storm surge hitting, which we expect to take place throughout the day into the afternoon. and then well into the night. >> yeah. don't drive through standing water like that guy did right behind carlos, right there i just want people to listen to that for one second

so they took the mic down, but we can hear the wind and we could hear the rain falling, war carlos is you can hear all the elements there yeah. let me together at once, the wind, the rain falling on the flooded area, carlos suarez, right in the middle of it now. and as carlos said sandbags help a little, but not when you're going to see storm surge of five and six feet, carlos. thank you so much for that. some great images there. now, a lot of the important hurricane information that comes in comes from those storm trackers, those airplanes, the hurricane hunters with me now is jonathan shanon with noah. sir. thanks so much for being with us. talk to us about what these flights do because you know, we've become used to saying it out loud, but it's a little crazy to fly a plane into a hurricane yeah, thanks for having me, john, i guess the simplest way to put it is we take the

weather station to the weather. so out over the ocean before we get in range of land-based radars or the the weather balloons are national weather service weather forecast office launched periodically. we take that whole kit out to where the storm is so that we can give people the most amount of time to prepare, get that data to the national hurricane center so they have the best picture. and then we also work with our caribbean countries are caribbean partners. we can forward stage. so that they are also aware and we can track it all the way in to unfortunately, where you are. tallahassee is where forecast landfall is so please say a few as well. >> yeah. >> i appreciate that yeah, 20 miles south of here is the actual coast. the coast itself, not heavily populated, but tallahassee certainly is 200,000 people. so a lot of people watching the storm very closely. we just put some images up of one of the earlier flight. i think the plane was miss piggy, one of the hurricane hunter flights that

walk through the storm. can you talk to us about specific data that's passed back sure. >> i'd love to. so our wpa3 deal, ryan's, we have miss piggy and kermit are two aircraft that fly. so they are basically laboratories in the sky. so on board they have three different types of radars knows radar to help the pilots avoid the worst of the weather they're going through it a multi-modal radar down at the bottom that does a horizontal sweep 360 degrees around them. so they know both their entry and exit ways for the meteorologist on board that's guiding the pilots, and then a tail doppler radar that's broadcasting directly back to the national hurricane in center. so they have a really good idea of the evolution, the rain rates, the vertical velocities inside the storm. so they can see if a storm is really getting itself together intensifying or if it might be falling apart. unfortunately, with helene, it's just been intensifying since we've been flying it. we also have what we

call it well, expendables are things we dropped out of the aircraft we have basically a weather balloon and reverse called a dropsonde. we have it's about the size of paper towel roll. the inside cardboard, and it's packed with sensors. do temperature, pressure, wind speed, wind direction, and humidity broadcast testing that back up to our aircraft. and we also know that hurricanes are fed by hot water. so we have a big ocean thermometer on board that we kick over the side. its fins down a thermometer once it hits the water, 300 to 400 meters down and radios that temperature profile up to us so we can figure out how much more gas the hurricane has in the tank as far as how deep that warm layer goes and we're doing some new thing that danon airplanes out of an airplane yeah, with uncrewed give me interrupt. >> the a lot of experimental data you begin got it. yeah, we

just saying the data specifically, you're getting back in the case of hurricane helene is what's told us. it is strengthening. it had us and has us now concerned, it will make landfall as a major storm and also just the sheer size of the storm. those are the that's the data we're getting back from these flights right now >> that's it. we fly at about 8,000 feet for about four to six hours in the storm environment going through at least four passes of the storm to sample each different quadrant figuring out how wide that radius had maximum winds is what the pressure in the center is, how that's changing after each pass, we go through all that data, goes to the forecasters at the national hurricane center. so they can send out those updates, keep people informed and folks can protect lives and property all right. >> listen. >> thank you so much for the work that you were doing to you and your entire crew. we do appreciate your time. thanks so

much to be for being with us, kate. it really is extraordinary that was big laboratories with a, b, not with a v laboratories in the sky, the sheer amount of data that we're getting back from them. kate i'm very glad you clarified that because you know, this discussion was going to take a very different turn. we're going to get back john. he's covering all the latest in florida for us as that massive hurricane is heading toward the florida coast, you also focus back in politics. yesterday, we focused on young voters and the impact that they could have on the outcome of the election come november number that is, if they show up today, we're digging into some of the most reliable voters in the nation. older voters, cnn's harry enten is looking into that. he's back here with us as we talked about it. harris was not performing as well with young voters as biden had four years ago, correct. so where does she stand when it comes to older voters? >> we delivered some bad news for kamala harris yesterday. how about some good news here? let's take a look at older voters. those 65 and over. look, you talk about four years ago, donald trump won amongst those voters by four points

when biden got out of the race in july, he was ahead by four points. look at where we are today. kamala harris, actually as a three-point lead in the average poll among voters, 65 or older and let me point out, no democrat has carried this group since al gore into thousand. so this could be the first time in 24 years that a democrat actually carries voters 65 and older, despite the fact that harris is doing worse among voters under the age of 30 and under the age of 34 if she's making gains with older voters and she's losing, if i'll say it that way with younger voters, is that a good trade-off? >> it's an excellent, it is an excellent trade off. alright, let's look, percentage of 2024 likely voters, those under the age of 30 makeup, just 13% of likely voters look at this large chunk that and voters 65 and older makeup of likely voters, say 29% in an average of the last two new york times, sienna college polls so absolutely, if you're kamala harris, yes. charette a little bit among younger voters, obviously, you prefer not to

srt anywhere, but if you're going to shred support anywhere shredded among younger voters, pick up support among older voters because they make up nearly a third of the electorate. this is a great tradeoff for kamala. >> how you think older voters are becoming an even more important block, even though they have now for generations of cycles you well, why, why, why are older voters becoming a more important block? because look at those voters who are 65 plus back in 1980, it was 17% jump ahead to today thousand last time democrats want amongst that group, they were 20% four years ago. they were all the way up to 26% were living longer. we are living longer. we are living longer. that's exactly right. we're living longer. so senior citizens are becoming a more and more than more important part of the electorate. and kamala harris is doing better now than any democrat has done at least in the final exit polls and all the post-election surveys since al gore in 2000, it's an excellent trade off. this as part of the reason why kamala harris is leading at least by a small margin, the average of the national polls, despite the fact that she's losing support among younger

voters, she's gaining support among the most reliable part of the electorate. >> interesting. thanks, harry. thank you. >> jessica. >> and john joining me now is cnn political commentator and republican strategist, shermichael singleton and democratic strategist, matt bennett. thanks to both of you for being here this morning. shermichael, let's just start first with what he was just wondering. kate through. first of all he he touched on this, but those older voters our high-quality voters in the sense that they, they vote. so walk us through that. also, why do you think kamala harris is doing better with them? >> we look, did they do vote. they're older, they're more experienced. they've seen presidents come and go. they've seen good leadership, they've seen bad leadership. and so if you're a democrat and you're making the argument that the former president is not the best individual to lead the country forward, than those individuals because of age, because of wisdom, because of experience may say, you know what i think that's a palatable argument. i'm going to vote for the person making that argument, but there's some interesting things last saw in the poll that i think may benefit the former president we've talked a lot about women with white women in particular,

50% for trump, 47% for vice president harris can the former president increase those margins by two or 3%? that is certainly benefit him in a place like pennsylvania. another thing that i thought was very fascinating. we asked in that same poll which candidate has policy positions on major issues that align with you donald trump, 29% to kamala harris, 18%. that suggests that the former president has strength, that were not necessarily seeing in some of the other polls that we saw an hour's matt, what do you think? why do you think that that harris is so strong with these senior voters? well, i certainly agree with shermichael's first point, which is these are voters that have seen a bunch of presidents come and go. they remember the chaos of the trump years, and also they pay a lot of attention to things like project 2025, which really threatens the things that they care about. most things like shell security and medicare care they pay attention to when trump talks about tariffs across the board, tariffs 20

across-the-board tariffs, which they understand it's just a tax increase on them. we did a study recently that shows the groceries alone would go up by $185 a year with those 20% tariffs and all in it's about $4,000 a year for an average family or senior. so they get that what trump is proposing is very bad. and when they look at what kamala harris is proposing, they like it a lot more you talk about the economy. >> it continues to be the issue and poll after poll that voters care about the most they rank at the highest we saw vice president harris. no big surprise giving another big speech on her economic policy yesterday and this is what she had to say in an interview. interview following those remarks, i want to listen to this don't just throw around the idea of just tariffs across the board and that's part of the problem with donald trump. but frankly, and i say this in all sincerity he's just not very serious about how he thinks

about some of these issues. and one must be serious. and have a plan, any real plan that's not just about some talking point ending in an exclamation at a political rally and matt, you were just listing off some of the outcomes that you all had studied if those tariffs do go in into place. >> and yet trump continues in polling to poll higher with who's better, who they trust more to handle the economy? why do you think that is and what you think do you think the vice president is doing enough to convince voters otherwise? >> well, i don't think they're reacting to trump's plans. i mean, if they looked at it carefully, there would realize that if you wanted to go after inflation electing trump would be like treating your diabetes with hohos. i mean, all of his plants are inflationary. he wants across tariffs. he wants to deport 9 million people from an economy where we are basically full employment,

which would drive up prices. so i don't think they're reacting to things that he's proposing. i think that they're looking back at pre-pandemic prices and thinking those were good and why can't we go back to that? that didn't have anything to do with trump. that's just the world that we lived in, not just the united states, but the entire world we live in a new world now, i think it's understand, but when voters pay attention to what trump says at these crazy rallies to project 2025. and it compare them to what kamala harris is talking about building the middle-class. there's just no question that it would be better for them to elect harris and shermichael. >> i'll give you the last thought on this in terms of that economic message. he is polling better, but there are all of these studies that show that the plan he has would be bad for the economy materially with terrorist biden administration, they maintain some level of trump era tariffs and i understand why are there was a there's an argument to

make that tariffs in some capacity could be a good economic strategy. i think writ large if donald trump were to be reelected, i would imagine his advisers would say mr. president, there's a better way if we want to level the playing field with china, or if you want to stop an american company from i shipping manufacturing to a country like mexico. what's a better way to incentivize that company to keep those jobs in a place like ohio, there's some different approaches there and i think ultimately he would make that decision. but with that said, the guy is still ahead by about eight points, i believe in our recent poll on this issue, i think the vice president is smart to provide a critique in a differentiator khader between herself and the former president. but the issue for her is about 30 plus percent of the american voters are saying we still want to know where you stand on making the economy better, providing a critique isn't enough. they need to hear more about solutions, which is why the former president is still strong. >> well, and why she's still giving these species that's what she's highlighting. all right, shermichael singleton and matt bennett. thanks to both of you okay we are tracking hurricane helene, the florida governor is about to give an update on the forecast. and the warnings that are now

spreading across the state, right now, tropical storm conditions are setting in along the gulf coast we will have countless down trees. we will have structural damage we will have loss of power yes, if our community main central in helene's path as forecasted, we will see unprecedented damage like nothing we have ever experienced before as a community the wait is over. tim walz and j.d. vance in their first and only face-to-face debate. and cnn has covered with the best political team in the business a cnn special event that vice presidential debate tuesday, tuesday at nine on cnn. >> welcome to the now way to network they switch to junipers. >> ai needed network and everything elect so they can take their game to a whole new level because now they're network is self-configuring itself detecting and

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filament shining though, right now, the storm continues to gain strength, spinning in the gulf of mexico and it is expected to become a major hurricane later today. expected to move onshore with landfall later tonight, felt it all for you. john is in florida for us, we'll continue to cover that. just having thanks, kate. a new overnight russia unleashed a massive attack on ukraine, launching 80 missiles and drones. those attacks killing one and damaging ukraine's energy infrastructure and it's coming as russia president vladimir putin threatened the west with the possible use of nuclear weapons that's if russia is hit with conventional missiles that threat comes as zelenskyy addressed the united nations general assembly this week and as the u.s and the uk considers zelenskyy is plead for the lifting of missile restrictions to allow ukraine to strike deeper into russia. let's turn now to cnn correspondent clare sebastian, who's in london, and cleric putin has made inflammatory or threats recently. how is this all being viewed?

>> yeah. on the one hand, jessica, this is more of the same from russia. they have rattled the nuclear saber very regularly throughout this war, this full-scale war in ukraine. and i think the fact that they've done it again is just a measure of just how much they want to deter the west from providing more weapons to ukraine and lifting restrictions on using them on russian soil. but on the other hand, this is alarming because this is the first time that we have seen that rhetoric translates into potential action putin decree on wednesday that he wants to update russia's nuclear doctrine that has not been done since 2020. now, as for what is in that on the one hand, they're saying they're going to include belarus now under russia's nuclear umbrella, not remotely surprising given that they've already positioned nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus and carried out joint nuclear drills on the second point, there's now this idea that if a non nuclear country launches an attack on russia in with the support in putin's war that's of a nuclear armed country. it will be considered a joint attack that is clearly a direct

nod to this issue around western provided long range missiles and whether the west will give permission to use them on russian soil. and then he seems to be broadening the definition, broadening the scope of when a first strike would be allowable under this doctrine. take a listen to that there's a fixture with so slowly the conditions for russia's transition to the use of nuclear weapons are clearly established. >> we will consider this possibility upon receipt of reliable information about the massive launch of air and space attack weapons and their crossing of our state border and strategic or tactical aircraft, cruise missiles, drones, hypersonic, and other aircraft so you can hear that definition now that a mass aerial attack could be considered justification to launch a nuclear weapon. having said that, russia is in the midst of a multiyear modernization of its nuclear arsenal. and just a couple of days for this announcement, a

test of an intercontinental ballistic missile, the sarmat missile seems to have caton strophic new failed satellite images showing a major, a major explosion at a cosmodrome in russia. jessica. >> all right. clare sebastian for us from london. thank you so much for that latest reporting. kate donald trump has long promised to tackle the affordability crisis in america, in part, in large part by imposing widespread tariffs. as he continues to lead on the issue of the economy that seems to resonate with voters. so enter a new analysis now suggesting the donald trump's economic plan, but actually backfire. matt egan's here with us now he's been looking into this. what does this analysis? tell you? >> well, kick this as a brutal report for the trump campaign. it is the most comprehensive analysis to date, focusing on the actual impact of trump's campaign promises if they were put into action and it paints a really dark picture, trump has said that these proposals would actually help the economy. this report from the peterson and institute finds the opposite. it focuses on three key areas,

massive tariffs massive deportations, and the fed, the idea that the president should have greater influence over interest rates and let's just look at the jobs impact this report finds that even in a low scenario where other countries don't retaliate against trump's tariffs, then we would still see 2.7% fewer jobs by 2028. and in any high scenario, where we're other countries do retaliate and even more workers are deported employment would be 9% lower. so again, fewer jobs, not more, but what's really telling here is the inflation part of this because trump has said that his tariffs, his deportations will help the cost of living, but this report finds, again, the opposite, that by 2026, we would see inflation go up to 6% even in the loess both scenario and 9.3% in the high scenario. so remember, inflation today it's around two-and-a-half percent. the goal is 2%.