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storm passes and it's safe to do so commence search and rescue operations. >> we have 3,500 national guardsmen standing by. we have our state guard standing by he'd be all right. >> cnn has team coverage throughout the morning as hurricane helene moves up the east coast, cnn's ryan young is in atlanta for us, but let's begin first with cnn meteorologist allison chinchar. allison, good morning. >> and good morning. yes. at the top of the hour, we just got our most latest update and here's the thing it is now a tropical storm but it's finally dropping back below hurricane status. but this is significant because it is well over 100 miles inland before this system finally weakens back down into a tropical storm, sustained winds, however, still at 70 miles per hour, this is still a very potent storm and because it is moving so quickly, there are some communities were the worst is still yet to come.
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even though well, this storm has made landfall. all of these areas you see here in green are under a flood watch, meaning the potential is there for significant flooding. the red areas indicating more flash flooding is ongoing, and this white area you see here that is a flash flood emergency that is just west of the city of asheville, north carolina this is valid for several more hours. this particular area has had at least six to ten inches of rain in just the last several hours. there are reports of cars that are stuck in roadways, roads under water. they're also been water rescues that have taken place here and reports of landslides in this area. so this is going to be a concern going forward because the rain is not yet done. you can see a lot of those outer bands really still spreading. a lot of that moisture not only into western north carolina, but portions of south carolina, georgia, tennessee, and even into kentucky. we also have numerous tornado warnings ongoing right now in the state of south health care carolina, that is expected to continue. you can
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see we have several tornado watches in effect for georgia and the carolinas. these are valid for at least another hour, but it is very likely that some of these will get extended throughout the day because the potential for tornadoes still exists for the remainder of the day today, especially for the carolinas and portions of southern virginia ginni essentially norfolk all the way down to charleston, there will be the potential for tornadoes this morning, but also into the afternoon. there's also even more rainfall expected across many of these areas. so the threat for flooding kasie still exist through the entire day all right. >> allison chinchar for us this morning. allison. thank you very much the devastation that we're seeing in florida from helene, just the opening chapter in what is now a tropical storm in south georgia, two people died in a tornado that was spawned by helene power outages also mounting across that stay. cnn's ryan young is in atlanta where the entire metro is bracing for this under a tropical storm warning at ryan. good morning. what are the
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concerns where you are today good morning well, what you just said is something that is very rare. kasie, in terms of the tropical storm warning for metro atlanta, atlanta is known as the city built basically within a force very large tree cover here. when we do get rainstorms, they're usually not this consistent and going as long and as this one could go, it's been very dry over the last 60 days here in the atlanta area and all the rain that we got from our earlier cold front made people concerned because with the ground saturated now, they're worried about big trees falling. you add in this extra rain over the last 24 hours, more than five inches of rain have come into the city of atlanta so you're worried about flooding and we've heard from some of our local news partners here, but they've already had to have rescues this morning at several low lining apartment complexes. there are creeks that they're concerned about. overflowing their banks at this point, they've shut down bridges because of that. then when you put in that massive infrastructure in terms of the roads in this area, they fled sometime during heavy rains, but you add the constant rain, a baby five to ten inches of
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rain, plus the heavy one that we're expecting the next few hours. that is the major concern right now. i can tell you just my driving in this area. we haven't seen a lot of cars on the road. that's a good thing the world's largest airport, hartsfield-jackson international airport. we know they've had more than 100 cancellations of flights but the constant concern right now, the big story line, of course, is the constant rainfall and how it's going to apply to infrastructure all the way through georgia. we've seen power outages. i'll people we're concerned about what will happen over the next few hours case. >> all right. ryan young for us this morning. ryan at very grateful to have you this morning stay safe. we'll be checking in with you throughout the morning and coming up here on cnn this morning, new york city's mayor formally indicted how prosecutors say eric adams broke the law on a 2021 trip to turkey and tropical storm helene, speeding to the north targeting georgia, tennessee, and the carolinas, plus why this massive storm is of course it's getting attention from the vice president, kamala
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harris the president and i of course, are monitoring the case. >> and the situation closely and we urge everyone who is watching at this very moment to take this storm very seriously and please follow the guidance of your local officials looked at the news of the week and ask questions like, what does a comedy show doing on cnn that's too much but i want donald know can you slice that i got news for you saturday at nine on cnn right now, pet dander skin sales mold spores, pollen, and dirt are being sucked into your air ducts, get cleaner air and system efficiency. >> now, with stanley steamer, your air ducts are clean until they're stanley's theme or clean relief works fast and lasts a full 24 hours. >> so zewde can be deliver, dance okay. >> dave let's be more than are
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state and local officials to ensure that everyone is safe vice president kamala harris, warning americans about the danger of tropical storm helene before it empirically made landfall as a category four hurricane overnight as the southeast recovers from the likely devastating effects of this historic storm forum, it's going to be a test for any national leader, especially the vice president harris, just weeks ahead of the 2024 election, president biden has already approved emergency declarations from multiple states common i've been briefed and spent many hours with fema, including recently to take this seriously from the bottom of my heart, please take it seriously. but he listened to this tennessee is to say i can do this. she can 24 storm surge. you can't all right. >> joining us now to discuss washington correspondent for spectrum news, kevin frey, kevin, good morning. wonderful to see you.
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>> so this of course is it has been a catastrophic storm. we are still learning all of the contours of the damage has been happening overnight. obviously, it's going to take the sun rising and as kind of getting a sense of what's happened to really you get our heads around this. but obviously this is the heat of a presidential campaign. florida not really considered a swing state, georgia, where it's headed next is one of those but regardless that the president and vice president have a role to play in helping any place in the united states recover for something from something like this. what are the imperatives up for someone? unlike harris in a campaign moment like this, right? >> i mean, this is, it is natural disasters like this, where leadership is defined and so this is a way to very easily reach across the aisle kyle, to show yourself as above politics, i remember back in 2012, i believe it was right in the lead up to that election, you saw barak obama go to new jersey. i think he embraced chris christie he then the governor of new jersey that was seen as very calcifying moment in that campaign in that led last couple of weeks before election day. this is a chance
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for them to be basically above for an and to be looked at as someone who was in command, who knows what they're doing in a real test for leadership? >> yeah, and we've also seen, of course, the governor or ron desantis is republican. there's going to in republican governor brian kemp. i mean, you mentioned that moment with chris christie and barack obama. there are choices to make right for, i mean, i remember for the romney campaign was very upset that chris christie was basically embracing obama in this moment as he was trying to, of course unseat. they're running against each other in that in that presidential race brian kemp, a little bit of a different type of figure, but we'll may have to decide how much to embrace the democratic leadership in this moment, right? >> because he has been while he has very interesting line where trump had bashed him previously and now is trying to basically make entrees to him to boost that relationship. it's been certainly campus is seemingly being somewhat reciprocal. and so now it's a matter of, does he fully embrace harris because of the for the betterment of
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his state? >> so i kevin, i also want to ask you, as you are in new york, you cover new york basically. but from here in washington for a new york audience he mayor of america's largest, most famous city, indicted for basically taking a bribe, bribery. and this has to do, it centers on some of the most salacious allegations, center on turkish officials trying to give him a plane tickets on turkish airways, pay for hotels for a trip he was planning to take this is from the indictment. this was an atom staffer writing to the airline manager, it turkish airlines. he's also he adams asking, where can they go in turkey? do you have a right? recommendation? the manager says the four seasons, the staffer rights back well, it's too expensive. the manager says, why does he care? he's not going to pay his name will not be on anything either. the staffer says super what's going on here, how much pressure is adams under to resign so i mean the pressure
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at least here in washington is coming from the more progressive lanes of the party congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, naive, alaska as yesterday, basically saying if i was in his shoes, i would resigned today. >> there is also mounting pressure within the state itself from various political factions. however, we've not seen some of the key leaders, for example, hakeem jeffries, chuck schumer mirror come out and say it's time for him to go, they call it serious, but also say it's essentially time for the legal process to play itself out. one kind of foil to keep an eye i on here is what governor kathy hochul is going to do. her polling is not great. she's trying to basically you know rally her support within the state and she has this interesting power within new york government that she could. it's not really been tested, but she could remove him from office. she is definitely leaving that option open then based on the statement that she released last night, but basically said in that same statement, eric adams needs to do some thinking about what's best for the city of new york all right.
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not ready to go tropical storm helene slamming into florida's big bend overnight, the powerful storm making landfall as a category four hurricane. it is the strongest hurricane on record to hit this area of florida. and even though the storm is weakening as it moves, inland, officials are warning this is just the beginning of the damage as it moves further north tornado watches remain in effect for nearly 20 million people across the southeast. cnn spoke with one woman riding out the storm in florida not as much worried as in heart sick especially knowing that i've got friends out there that are that are currently underwater and needing help. and it's just it's hard to read comments let's bring people saying, hey, underwater, plan on helping her neighbors because we're spent her house all right. >> cnn's mary bell gonzalez is
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live for us from tallahassee, florida. now married bell. good morning to you. what is the situation on the ground right now and explain what you went through overnight >> good morning, kasie. so here in tallahassee, it's relatively calm. of course, that is not something that we were expecting a last night. we did expect there to be power outages here and we work we thought we were going to be in the eye of it, but that was not the case. there was a lot of strong winds, lot of heavy rainfall. and unfortunately, as you can see, the power is still on here in tallahassee. it held up the power grid held up here, but that was not the case. across the state. we know that right now there are over 1.2 million customers in florida that are without power and tens and thousands of others in the south eastern region. now of course, here we're just learning about the devastation left behind a by helene. we know that this was, as you mentioned, a historic
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hurricane, but it was also a deadly one. we know that there have been three storm-related deaths so far. one in florida, governor desantis says that person was killed when a sign hit a car on the i for in the tampa area. the other two deaths confirmed, right now are related to people being stuck in the middle of a tornado related to hurricane helene. now we also know turns right now are flooding overnight, not here, but in pasco county for example, dozens of people were rescued from the rising water. people were evacuated from hotels. due to the flooding concerns. so that definitely is happening. and as you mentioned, this is not over we are still holding on to see what other devastation will incur as of as of right now, we are definitely watching closely alright mary bell gonzalez for us, married bell. thank you very much for that report. we will stick with you throughout
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scan for your free riders guide, 8045 i 518 to seven right. it's far 30 2:00 a.m. here on the east coast, tropical storm helene is now heading into georgia for jet dumping, heavy rain and dangerous flooding across the southeast landfall late last night as a powerful well category four hurricane packing winds up to 140 miles an hour in pasco county, florida, the sheriff's office reporting rescues of 65 people from floodwaters overnight in tampa itself, the general hospitals flood barriers did hold overnight as storm surge flooding reached record levels. even though the storm center and every and he got within 100 miles of that city one florida man, even riding out the storm in a kayak in his own basement. matthew, hello? five on tiktok showing his basement flood with more than four feet of water. after dealing with flooding of just
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just a year ago from another storm and then just the wind and the storm surge. it's just the homes flooded before we've had an inch of water here or there, but nothing like this. this is definitely the biggest guess, biggest flood we've ever had. so it's kind of a bummer kind of a bummer indeed, or it joining us now to talk about the latest on hurricane helene michael burn, former disaster response and recovery executive at fema, among really you've had such a long on career in disaster management from terrorist attacks to hurricanes so i'm very grateful to have you here today that florida man was in his own base filming. >> i will never quite understand people who filmed themselves like this in these disasters. i'm glad he is okay. although obviously there's some property damage there, but this is a major storm at talk to us about what you think the recovery is going to look like. how long will it take? how much is it going to cost? and what should people be doing right now? >> this is a serious storm and the focus right now is all
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about life safety, you know, to have people follow the direction of local officials so that they remain safe and that we minimize those damages. we can always fix things. we can't we can't fix people. we have to take care of that. this is going to take awhile too, and the storm even though it's reduced down to a tropical storm, still a huge random event going up through and then up into kentucky and tennessee two we've talked so a lot about the reason why this storm kind of developed way it did was because the waters in the gulf of mexico or warmer than they usually are. and we obviously also, you talk about people who don't want to follow the instructions mean i lived in florida for a little while. i was growing up there can be this jaded attitude, right? of the officials always warn us, nothing ever actually we happens, we're just going to stand our homes. but there are these trends of these storms getting so much worse. what would you say to people who are looking at this and wondering? is this the future here? how should people be thinking about these storms differently than
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maybe they were a decade ago? >> know, there's some cases is people who we start to look at these thanks. so because we have so many of them that they are almost routine and we can never do that. okay. because what happens is then you get a storm like this that shadows all your he. is about how bad things could be and how bad things could be for families and for the individuals and being impacted by but you have to be willing to take pay attention to what's going on and to be able to respond at a, to a, greater degree than we've ever had to respond before what do you see as kind of a future for i mean, i know you've responded to hurricane maria in puerto rico. >> i mean, how many more of these storms are we going to start to see? and what can we be doing as a diety to try to get prepared you know, i think paying attention to this is a real opportunity after the storm right now, life safety, but after the storm too, when you building think back the female programs allow for you
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to build back better, to build back smarter to their, there's examples, city a us justin tropical storm, allison in 2001 flooded the u.s. >> and medical center. harvey came along in 2017 medical center has taken steps where they built back better. they built in flood protection. they weren't impacted at all. >> all right. michael burn, very grateful to have you on the show this morning. thank you very much. your time and expertise. i appreciate it. >> all right. >> let's turn out of this new york city mayor eric adams has been indicted on federal corruption charges prosecutors are alleging he stole all from the city. he swore to protect the mayor, had a duty to disclose these gifts on his annual public disclosure forms so that the public could see who was giving him what but as we allege year after year after year he kept the public in the dark he told the public he received no gifts. >> even though he was secretly being showered with them mayor
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adams is accused of accepting bribes from turkish officials in exchange for pressuring the fire department to give a permit to the turkish consulate, even though they're building had not passed inspection. >> according to the indictment, adams plan, a trip to turkiye in 2021 and allegedly directed his staff to coordinate with the turkish airlines to get him i'm a massive discount on to business class flights that should have cost more than $15,000 a manager for the airline told me adam staffer, quote, i'm going to charge $50 colors. adam staffer replied, no, the manager that would work wouldn't know dear the staffer replied $50 it's what, quote, a proper price. the manager asked how much should i charge an additive smiling emoji at the atom staffers had quote, his every step is being watched right now, $1,000 or so, let it be somewhat real we don't want them to say he is flying for free at the moment, the media is attention is on eric well,
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it turns out federal prosecutors were also paying attention adams ended up paying $1,100 each for two tickets. >> they were both immediately upgraded to business class. >> following a search of his residence yesterday the mayor remains defiant my attorneys will take care of the case so i can take care of the city my day-to-day will not change will continue to do the job for 8.3 million new yorkers that i was elected to do. >> all right, joining us now, errol louis, cnn political commentator and political anchor for spectrum news. errol, it's wonderful to have you on the show. thank you so much for being here can you talk a little bit about the charges that adams is facing and also, you have such a nuanced understanding of the political pressures that can come to bear on a city official like adams, we've seen some calls in the democratic party for his resignation, but others are still holding off. but
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where is the pressure most serious for him in terms of people asking? for him to step down and in that context, what you think about how he may or may not survive this good morning, kasie the pressure on the mayor it's growing almost by the hour. >> there are a couple of dozen local officials and they were never real fans of eric adams and they've all called for him. are there more than every day hey, are calling for him to step down more seriously, you have the senior democrats who happened to be in new york residents, and that's senator chuck schumer and hakeem jeffries, the minority leader that senator gillibrand. that's governor kathy hochul, who basically has the power to remove him if it comes to that and they're all withholding judgment, they're all saying eric adams has to very seriously think about whether he can split his time between defending himself against these charges and he of course, has the presumption of innocence, the right to due process, and the right to tell his story up. a balancing that against
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running. what, 35 thousand member police force and taken care of 1 million kids in the public school system. we have a strong mayor system in new york and he's really an almost complete control of those major institutions, plus the fire department, sanitation department, and so on. so he's under quite a lot of pressure to prove that he can do this and he's trying to go out of his way to say that he kept the charges themselves. look the indictment lists a decade's worth of taking serious upgrades, more than $100,000 worth of benefit in the form of free trips and luxury suites and on and on and on. and none of it was really disclosed. i mean, it really is it's a problem of just from the point of view of things that you a piece of paper that you signed saying, i didn't get any gifts this year when in fact, you took a luxury trip to istanbul or two of sri lanka, or to china and all of those places are listed he was traveling all over the world for almost a
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decade on somebody else's diamond never disclosed it that in itself is a problem. kasie they're all the way that he's dealing with this, i think for those of us who have observed our national politics has evolved since, especially donald trump stepped onto the stage. >> he has given people a playbook for how to respond when you are under fire in situations like this. and donald trump did a talk about this on thursday. he of course, a longtime new yorker part of why am sure he seems to know so much about it. being paying so close attention to it. let's watch what he had to say about this and we'll talk about it. take a look i noticed the indictment is very old. >> that goes back a long time. well, i had the same thing they got. they went way before the statute of limitations so i wish him well, but i said that he will be indicted because he did that. you'd take a look. that's what they do. these are dirty players. he's a bad people. they cheat and they do
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anything necessary. these are bad people. and we need an honest justice department. we need an honest fbi. we needed fast so he's honestly taking adams is side in this in many ways. >> how does that play and how much do you think adams is relying on the track? trump playbook as he confronts this issue ever gotten very directly kind of repeating and using that trump playbook saying that the federal justice department and the biden white house are coming after him. >> and that's the only reason he's under this kind of pressure right now. there's really no evidence for that. it's very aggressive press corps. you know, here in new york and we've looked into it and we've asked about it and we've asked him to provide any shred of proof that any of this would be going on you know, that in exchange for criticizing the white house when migrant policy, this is the eric adams view of the world this entire investigation was launched against him i don't know if that's the case, but i think the view that
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a lot of analysts have is that both things can be true. they might have it in for you, but that doesn't mean you didn't do what they're alleging and maybe you should keep your nose a little extra clean if you want to go around criticizing powerful people. >> while of course they clearly, they clearly knew that this was potentially an issue very briefly, errol do you think that this is going to meet in a return for andrew cuomo to the stage in new york city andrew cuomo's people are making phone calls and trying to gin up some support. >> if eric adams were to resign. and this is the thing you really should keep in mind. under new york law, we call provisions or anything that. but if he were to resign before the end of his term there would be an election, a special election within 80 days, and that will attract every politician in new york because it's just sliced up it's a two-month sprint and you could become the head of the biggest city him in the country. it's irresistible to andrew cuomo and a whole lot of other people errol louis for us
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this morning, errol, so grateful to have you. >> thank you so much for being here. hope to see you soon. >> all right now let's go to this tropical storm helene is pummeling the southeast still and it was overnight made landfall as a category four hurricane last night, one of the largest storms in the gulf of mexico in the last century. it's resulted already in three deaths. officials say the danger far from over and the effects of this historic storm far-reaching ching watches and warnings currently in place for 60 million people in 12 states we are about 100 miles away from the center of the storm and still we had record storm surge almost a full meter above the prior record please? ford and fire reports share that almost the entire island of clearwater beach was underwater. the buildings weren't but all of the streets and roads were completely submerged in downtown lake
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city, florida, a roof blew off a building wjxt is aaron farrar was at the scene there we've seen a lot of trees down, but within the last five minutes, we saw even something more significant. >> this is downtown lake city what's behind me is a roof from a building. they abandoned building that standing to him by left right here, but then it's all crumbled out onto the street even damaged. this blue pickup truck that's partly brought us out of what was an old theater. there's a couple of blocks from city hall as well. you see, just as we get a little bit closer to all of the damage here, you see all of the folded sheets from the roof that was here and it's covering a good portion of the street and then off to the left, you see some of the effects of that as well. the cinder blocks that concrete as well, lake city police say, thankfully no one was hurt in all of this, but this tree is going to be closed down for awhile until all of that is able to be cleared up. but this is a common sight that you would see. maybe it's not a roof but you'll see a lot of trees down and debris out on different parts of the roadway,
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including us for 41, even out on different interstates like i tend east and west, there a different trees down. so as you're driving, you have to be careful, be mindful of what you might encounter because of how much debris, just like this on different parts of the road. and of course, when it's dark outside, people are driving, they're not aware that they're going to run into these companies. some of these problems. so you'd need to be aware and be careful, look out for deputies. are police officers that are specifically blocking off different streets and be prepared to go around, do not try to go past different barriers that are set up we're live this morning in downtown lake city alright. >> our thanks to wjxt is aaron farrar. let's go to our meteorologist, allison chinchar for an update on the storm now allison, good morning and good morning. >> yes. that is now a tropical storm, but i want to emphasize for some of these communities, this may have made landfall, but the worst is yet to come. when terms of rain and especially the wind for some of these areas. now the center of
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the storm is east of making right now, according to the last update, about 40 miles or so east of there so you're really starting to see a lot of those wind gusts begin to pick up across portions of northern georgia, as well as areas of the carolinas. now, one of the other concerns is going to be the flooding. all of these green areas you see here flood watch the potential is there for flooding the red areas indicate were flooding is ongoing at this point in time, this white box, actually, i now have two white boxes there in western north carolina, flash flood emergencies for these areas. the one of them is just to the west that you can see of asheville. we have one just south of asheville and now we have one east of asheville, basically surrounding it on three sides that concern here is that at least six to ten inches of rain because already fallen in the last few hours. there have been reports by emergency managers that there had been water water covering the roads water rescues, taking place, and also some landslides in the area in the unfortunate part is even more rain is expected for these areas and
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not just a little bit, but several more inches of rain rayne we've also had several tornado warnings right now. we have several active in south carolina, but we've had some in georgia and north carolina as well as the bulk of that rain continues to spread northward with that said, more tornadoes are possible throughout the day today, you still have the tornado watch in effect for portions of georgia and the carolinas why is that is valid for at least about another hour or so, but it's very likely that some of this will get extended because the threat not only stays for those states, but also even expands farther north into portions of virginia. so norfolk all the way down to charleston, looking at the potential for tornadoes and damaging winds as we go through the day today, the damaging winds, not to mention just the wins and cells from some of the other areas and maybe trees coming down we already have two-and-a-half million people without power. kasie, we could see that number continued to tick up as we go through the day today all right. >> allison chinchar for us this morning. allison, thank you very much. we'll be checking in with you throughout the morning. let's go now to this story though, hopes for a 21
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day ceasefire between israel and hezbollah fading this morning, just 48 hours ago, the u.s. and its allies to believe an agreement to pause the fighting along the israel-lebanon border was imminent. but israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu upended those hopes schumer, my policy, our policy is clear. >> we continue to hit hezbollah with all our might. we will not stop until we achieve all our goals. the most important being the safe return of the residents of the north to their homes this is the policy and no one will mistaken the confusion over a possible ceasefire deal. just the latest moment of frustration for american diplomats in the year since the hamas it's terror attacks of last october in a new article, seminal article really any atlantic called the war that would not end it's a chronicle of america is efforts to mediate a ceasefire and hostage deal between israel and hamas. and there's one telling moment in may where the relationship between israel and the united states seemed close to breaking as israel prepared to invade
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rafah in southern gaza president joe biden have publicly called that move a red line secretary of state antony blinken told me israel, you're going to have to make your own decisions but go into this clear-eyed understand the consequences for our relationship. netanyahu seemed braced for a possible rupture this, is it, this is it. if this is where we end, this is where we end. you have to do what you have to do and we have to do what we have to do joining us now to discuss is the author of it that story franklin foer, staff writer for the atlantic. frank. good morning to you. thank you so much for being here this is really just an incredible history. of the we're coming up on the one-year anniversary of october 7, and you really provide so much new details, so much texture about how this year has gone. the relationship between israel and the united states take us through. i know you had new reporting on several moments throughout this. what you learned and what that tells us about what might
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happen next. >> i think just looking at the long arm of this war president joe biden has a couple of different things in his mind. one is he genuinely we loves the state of israel. he considers himself a good friend. and there's been this tension almost from the very first is the war. joe biden did not want israel to invade gaza on the ground, and he told netanyahu that very specifically he knew israel wouldn't listen to him. but there was always this tension where he was trying to direct it it's real but never really asking for things directly or leverage issuing his opinions as demands. they were always kind of socratically posed the, israel, and he continues to bleed on behalf of israel despite the fact that he's never really in line with the policy of the government. the second thing we're seeing this play out today is that his great abiding fear and both ukraine and in israel is the fear of regional escalation that would ensnare the united states isa the who grew up in the atomic age, you remember
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his kids hiding under their school desks. and so he's constantly confronting these moments where there's tension between hezbollah in israel. there was one moment where a flock of birds was mistaken for paragliders by the israelis on, for days after october 7. and in nearly resulted in israel pre-emptively attacking hezbollah at a moment that would've been pretty bad for them to have done it because they were so so much disarray internally. and so we have moments like that constantly where we're going up to the brink president biden is trying to bring is bring the world back from the brink. but there's only so long, he's able to do because the region is in fact a tinderbox. >> yeah. and i mean, that moment was a really striking one where they are trying to get his really officials on the phone to say no the intelligence since that you think you have it's not true. there aren't these paragliders that are going in. it's a really, really remarkable moment you also write about benjamin netanyahu and the way
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he was acting and the, especially the immediate aftermath of october 7 you describe him as shell-shocked, almost not his usual self that his self self-confidence was undermined tell us a little bit more about what you know about that and how it impacted israel's actions. >> well an american officials would get on the phone with netanyahu. they could just hear it in his voice and they saw it wasn't just netanyahu was all of the israeli officials they would meet with in the immediate days after october 7, because they had just presided over the greatest security failure and the history of their state. and so they were there nerves were jangling. there was a sense of shame. remember netanyahu took a couple of weeks to really begin meeting with hostage families. he wasn't showing up in public in a very forceful way in a sense, when president biden visited israel after october 7, he stepped in and he filled this very calming role that you would expect a prime minister
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to play. and so this goes on and on though, because october 7 becomes the frame through which israel processes everything else. so when they look at hezbollah, there, they're just worried about getting caught out in the same way they were caught out on october 7. yeah. so what does this mean for the future, especially? with the presidential election looming well, i mean, i do think that there's going to be no resolution to any of this likely before the presidential election that there was this great hope constantly that this war would end at the beginning of the war after october 7, when israel invades gaza, they tell the americans and they tell themselves that the war was going to be over by christmas and then they make all of these discoveries about the tunnels underneath gaza and for very understandable military reasons, the war continues on it, but the great hope looming over it all constantly was that there was this possible for a deal where
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you get the hostages back in return for a ceasefire. >> and one of the things that was just most aching to me to learn in the course of my according, was that in the end of august, there was this hope that netanyahu had come around to a position where he was ready to deal hamas looked like they were ready he to deal. and then the six hostages were killed. and that deal that was so close, started to evaporate because hamas had murdered at six bargaining chips and then started making a whole series of demands and now it's the diplomats can't reach yaya sinwar. so it seems like that deal has just all right franklin foer. so grateful to have you on the show today and the highly recommend, it's just a fascinating read from top to bottom. thank you very much. thank you all right. coming up next here on cnn this morning extensive damage in florida you just hear this loud rumble for about 10:15 seconds but then you just looked out front and see the roof just coming?
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