someone being ridiculed. maybe they'll think, well, i don't like him or her that much and they're also getting their clips on tiktok and instagram and other places that has a long, long leg theory and that people are going to get their guns there, you know, less about the vp's. >> so the impressions of the vp's can take hold because often the performers doing them are just better than the vp's. >> i mean, the harris impression she was the vp and so the maya rudolph impression of harris is i think for a lot of people, a real thing a real burned. i think many people, many more people are seeing on tiktok, the remix of j.d. vance saying i'm a never trump guy and people dancing to it, that tiktok is so powerful and that we said, what is branding people is the site of hundreds and hundreds the women dancing to j.d. vance saying, i never trump guy, i'd never liked him. i'm a never trump. i never liked them and i was going on tv and be at trump guy. unlike am sure we will see much more of this and the weeks to come. alright, thank you panel for joining me this morning. thank you for joining us. i'm manu raju in for kate

i see khan cnn news central starts right now tragedy. >> the race to provide relief across a half dozen states battered by her hurricane helene the death toll now at 95, we will speak to the government we're of north carolina were the hardest hit states this hour. and president biden will address the nation this morning, breaking overnight, new israeli airstrikes as new signs and murderers that israel could be preparing for a ground invasion and final day of prep for what could be the last debate of the presidential election season. >> new report morning and what j.d. vance and tim walz are doing today? i'm kate bolduan with john berman and sara sidner. this is cnn news central

southeast are facing and indescribable to destruction after hurricane helene tore a path of devastation from florida to virginia. >> at least 95 people across six states have died. many more people are unaccounted for this hour and officials believe the death toll will rise, right now, utility crews are working around the clock to try to restore power. but nearly 2 million customers are still in the dark with hundreds of roads and bridges across the region damaged or covered by debris thousands of people are stranded, cut off from badly needed supplies in north carolina, at least 36 people are dead and officials have received more than 1,000 reports of people who are missing. helene's powerful winds and floodwaters ripped homes from their foundations, causing landslides and wiping entire mountain towns from the map and we watched it from the edges happens

come push through these walls? >> take out buildings and move them in tyre areas over. >> as we assess the damage, this is looking to be buncombe county's own hurricane katrina we have a biblical devastation through the county. >> we've had flooding here and it has been extremely significant wow cnn's rafael romo is joining us now from asheville. what are you seeing this morning? we are seeing these pictures of this just immense flooding which authorities are calling biblical flooding. what can you tell us this morning? >> yeah, that's right. sara, that's how officials here in buncombe county are describing the situation is a scene of devastation everywhere. you see hard to show you right now because it's still very dark here. there is no power whatsoever. especially in this area where we are not too far from the historic biltmore estate, one of the best-known

areas in town here in asheville. and we got the news overnight, the very sad news, sara, a buncombe county officials saying that f 30 people in this county alone have died, which brings the total in north carolina closer to 40 people. and you were mentioning at the beginning, if we count the people who have died in the southeastern states, we're talking about a figure that is getting close to 100 now. what now here the situation is getting better very, very slowly. no water for most people here in town, still no power. but communications are getting better. people had no cell phone reception at all for the last couple of days. i was talking to a family, yes or yesterday, they have a relatives and sarasota put a florida they haven't even been able imagine this era to call them to let them know that they're okay. we were trying to use our satellite phone and

we still couldn't reach them. and the city has announced that two cell phone carriers are going to bring satellite trucks here to provide temporary communications for people. so people but we will be able to go to those satellite trucks to be able to call their families spot imagine this at thousand calls to the 911 emergency service system to let officials know that they have a loved one, a relative who is missing. now, most most of those people are probably okay, it's just that they have enabled to reach them the other thing here in this desperate situation, sara, is the fact that it is very difficult to bring food and water to some of the areas surrounding asheville to the mountain communities because some of the roads are still impassable he talked to a few people here in town about what it's been like for them to go through this and this is what they have to say

broke out in tears, undescribable. i don't know. it just was covered in litter and trees and mud and it's stinky and it was all the way up the street appear here. it just looks like the bottom of a river it was crazy. >> the water came all the way up to the top of our driveway and usually you might see a little bit of flooding down at the bottom of the street but it came up. i mean, another 15 feet more than that me leave you with some good news. >> we were talking about 400 impassable roads in the county as of saturday, the figure last slide was 280, so slowly, but surely there's some progress they're now back to you. >> but it is still an incredible amount of work that needs to be done. and we're seeing asheville where you are, but this is the entire community surrounding asheville as well. there are so many places devastated by this. thank you so much. rafael romo.

appreciate your reporting there. >> let's go now to the middle east where this morning there are increasing fears that an all out regional war is coming after sure. israeli airstrikes hit within the city limits of beirut for the first time in a long time, the strike overnight hit a major intersection and just a short time ago, hezbollah announced that the terror group will be naming a new leader to succeed hassan nasrallah as soon as possible is how they put it. and noteworthy, the first anniversary of hamas's october 7 terror attack on israel, that hezbollah supported is now just one week from today. cnn's ben wedeman is live in beirut at the scene of these latest strikes. ben, tell me what you've seen, what you're seeing, and what you're hearing we're apartment, the sixth floor of this building? >> totally destroyed the

according to the ministry how four people were killed and the popular front for the liberation of palestine, a palestinian faction says if three of their members we're killed now it's significant that the pflp really hasn't been very active in this war, certainly from lebanon, but nonetheless, plus israel took those men out in the early hours of the morning. what is also significant about this strike is it? first time since hostilities ramped up that there has been a strike outside the southern suburbs of beirut where hezbollah has a large presence so what we also heard in within the last two hours, he was from naim qassem, who's the one of the senior debt happy pds of hassan nasrallah, who gave what appears to have been a recorded speech in which he didn't seem to be indicating any willingness of

his bola to cease fire to agree to a ceasefire. he said that as far as the organization goes, despite repeated body blows of course, the killing of the leader of the group. he said, we did not collapse. we are going on despite the pain and sacrifices. he said hezbollah will continue confronting israel in support of the palestinian people, gaza and the people of lebanon. so no indication from his bullets at this point that it's going to change course despite the blows it has sustained. in the last two weeks i'm from there, ben wedeman on the ground for us. ben. thank you very much john. all right. it is the eve of the vice presidential debate and we have new reporting on what has tim walz feeling nervous? and does donald trump's new plan to fight climb include a purge you know, if you had one day, like

one real rough nasty day with the drugstores as an example, all these tours go out of business, right? >> they don't pay rent that the city does have a whole chain of events. it's so bad one rough hour. and i mean real rough. >> the word will get out and it will end immediately all right to the rescue, the space capsule that will bring to stranded astronauts home has docked at the international space station tim walz and j.d vance in their first and only faced please debate. and cnn has covered with the best political team in the business a cnn special event, the vice presidential debate tomorrow at nine on cnn you're leaving me for a turbotax expert seeing it, adam turbotax of your pride's

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slice that i got news for you saturday at nine on cnn or a new this morning, sources tell cnn the governor tim walz is nervous ahead of his debate against senator j.d. >> vance. that debate is tomorrow night. he is nervous, apparently that he will let vice president kamala harris down let's get right to cnn's isaac dovere isaac, this is your reporting. what have you heard well, that's right. >> john logo right now. we've got tim walz in debate camp in michigan doing the final preparations ahead of tomorrow night's showdown with j.d. vance. he's got pete buttigieg in there playing j.d. vance, campaign made a point of telling folks last night that buttigieg as well wearing a cheap red tie, he has not grown a beard adds, it's not full method as he gets into this prep in the final stages here. but walz is someone who has been in politics a long time. i were back in august when harris picked him that one of the things that he said in their vetting interview was, i'm not a good debater and i'll tell you from reporting that i'

done since as you mentioned, he has continued to be nervous about this debate, really feeling like he needs to think about all the things of how he gets his points across. it gets it into two minutes. what is resting phase looks like when he's not speaking and all of that because he really is number one devoted to the idea that donald trump can't get back to the white house, and that he doesn't want to let kamala harris down, make sure that she feels like he's done his work for her. so in introducing her and continuing to talk about her work as the prospective president here and making sure that that's the role that he has as the running mate. but even last week, i was in new york at a fundraiser that tim walz was doing at an apartment there, and he said, after i left the room, i heard he said to someone who asked how's debate prep going and said, look, i was trained as a teacher, as a teacher were trained to answer the questions tell our students to answer the

questions. that's not what this is. so walz really trying to fit himself into this somewhat awkward always thing of a nationally televised debate. >> big risk people to judge, not growing the beard for the debate prep. that we will see. we will see maybe what it all comes down to. it's going to come down to the beer isaac, that is interesting performing. one wonders if its expectation setting, but we shall see terrific work. thank you. >> what we've seen when men who have grown up beards, who shouldn't, what it looks like. it could have been career ending for you. >> a cautionary tale maybe you'll see it soon enough. >> just give john on a long enough vacation, which will never be allowed back. >> how the harris campaign is now targeting donald trump and j.d vance ahead of tomorrow's big debate, as was just being discussed and what had happened to do with trump's in concept plans for health care. and 17,000 people told to evacuate in georgia. >> all because of that that's a fire at a chemical plant will

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i'm taylor available on the apple app store or android. >> if you vote for me, i promise pizza everyday, plus unlimited topics. >> but does the budget even exist for that ethan, why are we not talking about the fact that my opponent has coatings? >> this morning, the harris campaign is targeting trump's plans on health care, a senior campaign official telling cnn the 43 page analysis called concept on health care isn't attempt to force the trump camp to address their proposals. there's also new polling this morning that shows two-thirds of americans believe health care is not getting enough attention in this election. joining me now is cnn's meg tirrell. give us some sense of what we see this polling. give us some sense of what harris is saying. >> yes, there. i mean, this isn't something that we've heard come up as much as

perhaps you would expect in the presidential debates so far. and we are seeing that in these polling data this morning, there's a new poll from gallup and west health and what it finds this was done in september of about 3,000 people is about 67% of us adults say they don't think that health care is getting enough attention in this 2024 presidential election cycle. that is true that a majority of people believe that across political parties, although it is most pronounced among democrats, the poll finds 78% of democrats believe that 67% of independents, but still 53% of republicans, so that they don't think health care he's getting enough attention in this election cycle. they also drilled down on key issues and which candidate different party members said that they trusted the most on key issues like access to care insurance coverage, increasing quality of care, lowering the price of prescription drugs. this broke down among party lines as one might think, democrats were more so likely to think harris would do better on those republicans were more likely to think trump would do better on those. they were slightly more

likely to trust harris independents though. one-third of them, so that they didn't trust either candidate on these issues. so it kind of shows there's a lot of room there to be talking more about this and to win some folks over i'm when i said they were more likely to trust harris, independence maybe slightly we're leaning toward harris on those, but still that third said that he didn't trust either candidate, sara. >> i don't care. obviously affects every single person who would be going to the polls or otherwise what are the poll find are the most important health care issues for americans? >> yeah, they drilled down each one of these in the top one is protecting medicare and social security. they found 63% of folks that was the most important are among the most important issues for them in this election, 57% said lowering the cost of health care, 47% said lowering drug costs and 43% that said increasing mental health care access where a lot of people in this poll said that, that should become more affordable and more accessible. but this

was particularly pronounced among older voters who wanted protection for medicare, sara. >> yeah, that's very clear, but it is interesting to mental health care. you don't always see that in pulling, it really is a huge issue in this country. meg tirrell. thank you so much. it's bringing that to us this morning. appreciate you sports friends. >> let's get to it. the fate of three teams hangs in the balance today and major league baseball, the braves are hosting the mets and a doubleheader. they were originally set to play last week before being postponed by 13 helene, the winner of game one automatically goes to the playoffs. that's the easy part. what happens next, according to everyone, especially meet gets complicated. to sum it up, if the team split the doubleheader, meaning they both win one the mets and the braves both are in the playoffs. and arizona will then end up being on the outside, looking in you get it. great. one player has happily already in the post on the postseason roster. dodgers, shohei ohtani the japanese superstar, tallied still number 59 of the season this weekend,

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is right under your nose what's your name again every weekday morning, here are the five things you need to know to start your day, get the news, you need about this for an earnings call headlines in fighting i've minutes or less cnn's five things with kate bolduan, streaming weekdays on cnn.com and max this morning, much of the american southeast is just reeling still today from the devastating impact of hurricane helene. some of the images coming out about the

reality that people are facing in their communities are just simply hard to believe at least 95 people are confirmed dead, 36 deaths in north carolina alone. hundreds of people are still unaccounted for and we're talking days later, power and cell service systems have been crippled as the storms just tore through all of these states, just look at these images cities like beautiful asheville, north carolina have seen some of the worst of it this is the most devastating thing i've ever seen her whole city thank that the loss of lives fact that if you don't have cash, you can't get anything. >> we've gotten to stores, waters out isis out. people slept overnight at gas stations like i feel like we've never seen this before and i know that we don't really, truly know the numbers of the loss of life here. it's been devastating painting your heart just breaks, joining us right now is the democratic governor of north carolina, roy cooper

governor my heart is breaking. >> everyone's heart is breaking for people in your state. i mean, you describe last night the situation is a devastating catastrophe of historic proportions. and i have to say no when you've for a long time, you are not one for hyperbole when you speak that way, talk to me about what what's the latest there and what is making this one so bad? >> well this is an unprecedented storm and it's causing us to have an unprecedented response we are coordinating a multi-state multi local, federal response, where we are surging search and rescue teams help rescue people who are still stranded, but can't communicate because cell phone service is down, we're working to surge supplies in i will be heading in this morning. we were bringing even more surprised such supplies surging them into asheville

airlifting them into areas that are unreachable by land the emotional and physical hole. here is indescribable. i will be talking with people this morning. i'm going to head to one of the hospitals to mass feeding site to get one-on-one from people what's happening to them, right now. i will be taking with me and fema director criswell, who will be with us we plan to starlink can talk with president biden while we are there. i talked with both president biden and vice president harris last night. they pledged their full support. >> this is going to be a tremendous effort in the short run. >> but looking at it in the long run with the hundreds of roads that are destroyed communities that were wiped off the map we have to make sure

that we get in. >> there are smart about rebuilding doing it in a more resilient way. but right now, we're concentrating on saving lives and getting supplies to people who desperately, desperately need them you talked about i think the latest number i saw was last night was there a 280 roads that are closed? closed makes it sound like quick mean some of these roads are completely decimated in wiped out in north carolina put that into perspective. because it seems that some communities are completely cut off yeah, a lot of communities are completely cut off and that number has gone up this morning. >> it's very difficult to tell with all of the floodwaters. and by the way, rivers are still rising so the danger is not over. the flooding is likely not over. and we are sending a stern message to people, consider the roads

closed in western north carolina. we do not need sightseers coming into observed the damage we asked you not to come in unless you are on a specific mission to help with rescue we were saving the roads that we have and that we can use to get people to get supplies and to get our utility trucks. and two cut the power back on to help put up the cell service. the lack of communication is concerning. we knew a lot of people have loved ones that they have not heard from. >> and we believe most of them will be okay because there have been a lot of welfare checks by local officials because they get reports and i just not not heard from my son and daughter and 72 hours and well, checks are going on and the call goes back that they are okay.

>> they are at home they are isolated, they can't get out, but they are okay. and but we know that there are people missing and we know that there's going to be significant fatalities at the end of this and are prayers and our hearts go out to these families. it's such a horrible situation for them, but what they expect from us it's to coordinate this effort. this is what you prepare for. the problem is that in the mountains of north carolina are beautiful. but there is a lot of rugged terrain on a sunny, beautiful day. >> and when landslides have occurred and flooding has occurred it's almost impossible to traverse. >> so we're depending a lot on airpower helicopters with hoist capacity to get supplies in a lot of coordination that is going on. our national guard fully activated we are grateful

to the people from at least 19 states who are here to help help us fema is on the ground. we will be with them today individual assistance hasn't has come on so people can go to direct assistance.gov and apply for assistance a lot to do right now. and i'm getting ready to leave from right here and go go continued to work on it all right. >> governor, you're going to get your eyes on more of what you and the state is dealing with today. and we're so sorry, but we are really thank you for coming on today. you've got a huge huge job ahead of you today and for weeks to come. thank you so much thank you very much. >> kate for more information about how you can help hurricane helene victims go to cnn.com/impact, or you can text a storm to 707070 to donate sara let me just bear. >> unbelievable. there are now

concerns of retaliation from iran after the israeli strike that killed hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah. this has led the pentagon to adjust its military posture, boosting its air support, and increasing troop readiness yes, iran retaliate cnn's arlette saenz is joining us live from the white house. how is the white house viewing what has been happening in this moment? it is not just the death of nasrallah, but there are other areas that israel has targeted there are sara and president biden is focused on trying to prevent this precarious situation on in from spreading into a wider conflict that could engulf wolf the entire region. >> that is something that the administration has feared since the beginning of this conflict, nearly one year ago and a us official tells cnn that in this moment, won a major area of concern is the possibility that iran could be planning an attack in the wake of israel's killing of hezbollah leader.

leader hassan nasrallah. now the u.s is starting to take steps to work on joint defense efforts with israel, including possible changes to us military posture with the hope that i could potentially ward off any attack by iran. now this us official did not exactly laid out what kind of attacked they are expecting or the specific moves that the u.s would be making. but the pentagon yesterday did say that if iran or any of its proxies tries to use this moment to target american person now or interests that the u.s. would disband to ensure that they're keeping their personnel safe. they have noted that they have significant capabilities in the region, including a carrier strike group on saturday president biden held a call all with his national security team and vice president kamala harris to evaluate the situation in the middle east, to review what the military posture is in the region. and

just yesterday, he made clear to reporters that his first priority is trying to prevent this conflict from spreading even wider. take a listen out war in the middle east to be avoided already taken portions relative to our embassies and personnel will want to leave but we're not there yet, but we're working like hell with the french and many others thanks now that last comment there is a reference to the united states hope that there could still be some type of diplomatic solution to prevent this war from spiraling even further into the region. president biden said he also plans to speak with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu soon, though officials have not detailed hailed exactly when that will happen. but the u.s. is certainly watching this very closely as they are hoping to prevent any wider war in the region. >> yeah, you heard biden say that they're going to fight like hell to try to keep this

from turning into a wider regional war. thank you so much, arlette saenz live from the white house for us right with us now, senior editor for bloomberg, bobby ghosh and cnn military analyst, retired lieutenant general mark hertling general, let me start with you because we are getting these reports israeli armor massing at the northern border of israel, right by lebanon there, the question is, if there is an incursion into lebanon on how far and to what end and that's a tough question to answer. i mean, in the past israel has gone as far north as beirut. they have also gone to the litani river, which is about 40 kilometers to the north of the israeli-lebanon border. so we're seeing what what does israel you want to do. how do they want to do it? is it with their forces, our ground forces so far they've been very successful in striking many of the missile and rocket launch facilities within southern lebanon. they've also destroyed most of

the hezbollah command and control infrastructure. it's just been amazing how many targets they have hit that really critically terminated a lot of their command and control. they're also striking in yemen against the houthis last night, they had several israeli air force fighters, as well as refuelers going to yemen. you're also seeing it. can can you in strikes in gaza and the potential for strikes from supply lines between syria and lebanon. and there's also the concern about the pmf forces in iraq. so israel has its hands full today. i don't think we're going to see a ground incursion anytime soon. and i think that's what president biden was talking talking about when he's trying to prevent a more regional conflict which may turn if israel does unleash forces in southern lebanon, even though they are prepared to do that as general hertling was talking, bobby, i was x-ing out all the areas of possible concern for

israel and i didn't even touch iran, which is over there. >> we did just hear from the deputy of hezbollah moments ago giving a tape speech there in terms of response, either from hezbollah or from if you're looking at the entire region from iran, what do you think the will and the capabilities are right now? >> well, the capabilities at the moment are in disarray because of israel's successful targeting of the leadership and the communications infrastructure and also as general hertling was pointing out, all of the military infrastructure on the border the political necessity is dead for whoever becomes the leader, the new leader of his malar, that group has been severely damaged over the last couple of weeks. its fighters have been killed, its leaders have been killed, its people the civilian support base has been, has been the into sort of apple panicking and running towards the north. >> so that group needs to reassert some authority, reassert some prestige.

>> and so whoever becomes a leader will be on a lot of pressure to find some kind of action quickly, some low hanging fruit if they can't strike at israel then they're going to have to find somebody something closer to a domestic rival and this is a country, let's remind ourselves with lots of history of sectarian and middies. that's the thing i fear most that they will pick on somebody smaller, somebody close at hand just to make a statement, we are still here. we can still do damage, but maybe even inside lebanon, there creates even more instability. there. general, the israeli air force put this video out on twitter of this plane, which they indicated on twitter with some of the airstrikes, the likes of which ultimately took out the hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah. you can see that the huge bombs there on that plane. i'm curious what further constraining factors now for israel as they consider what to do next inside lebanon well, they're constraining factors is not so much the size of the

munitions, john, when they struck the headquarters of nasrallah the other day that was underneath an apartment building. >> so they have i do strike it with a very large munition you'll you'll see it now. it was devastating, but what you're talking about is gathering intelligence, showing that almost the entire group of command and control from hezbollah were in that meeting. so you take the risk and say, we're going to strike it hard. we're going to get all of them. this isn't a precision strike when you see that kind of munition like you're showing right now that tells me they've got some pretty good targets, but they're either deeply buried or they have to hit entire buildings. interestingly enough to israeli intelligence also put out the fact that this strike against hezbollah meeting their headquarters was about 50 meters away from a un pound and about 53 meters away from a school. so you see hezbollah doing the same thing we've seen

hamas do over the last year and placing their headquarters, their meeting places. their fighters within the civilian infrastructure. and so this it has to be considered when you're talking about not only striking targets with large munitions, but also the fact that as soon as that target was struck, hezbollah continued to fire rockets into israel. so this war is not one-sided at all. israel has been very precise, more so in lebanon than they have been in gaza strike i came targets with the right type of munitions and being more surgical in their approach, even though it appears to be a devastating, strikers are showing on the screen right now, you know, very quickly bobby, you can see the range of hezbollah munitions into israel. this is different than it was 20 years ago. you know, hezbollah can strike anywhere in it's really, i guess my question then is, what does a ground incursion from israel actually accomplished? you think? >> well, what we've seen so far as israel has been particularly targeting those sites from where hezbollah might fire off those missiles

and drones and rockets and a ground we've also heard reports of ground in sort of small operations going into those areas and taking out those muscling sides there was one missile. remember last week that hezbollah fired off in the direction of tel aviv, it was symbolic. it was, it was just hezbollah showing we're here. we've got this range, we've got this, these munitions, but all of those are the individual commanders were in charge of those rocket silos and missile silos. they all have to know that the moment they raise their head above ground israel is close at hand to take them out and right now, that's the real concern. there's also concern about their communications, but they trust any communications coming from anywhere. they know their pagers don't work or if they work not in the waiting want to the walkie-talkies are compromised. how do they communicate? so it's not just as as general hertling will be the first to say it's not well, just about having the weapons. it's about having command and control. it's having communications and mission discipline. and right now, none of those things are

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>> and i, we've been very clear about this and covering this in our reporting, but in my copious amounts of conversations with donald trump's senior advisers with outside allies. they have all pressured him repeatedly to move away from these personal attacks and to focus on he issues. but this is who donald trump is and what's interesting about this is that these attacks came all really following her border visit on friday. so donald from had a series of rallies this weekend, some in wisconsin yesterday, we saw him in erie, pennsylvania, and all of his remarks really painted a very dark picture of a mayor erica, now we know that is something that donald trump has done time and time again. but his comments really stuck or struck a different tone this weekend. and part of the reason i bring up harris, his border visit on friday is because it has donald trump has been fixated on that and it has struck, i believe, some what of a nerve with him. know that that is true? prf that donald trump considers his own. and

even as she was vowing to crack down on security at the border to revisit asylum procedures. donald trump really turned his fire on her in a way that we haven't seen in awhile with calling her mentally impaired. we know that donald trump often first to biden as mentally impaired and questions his mental capabilities, but now he's doing that for harris and we did see many republicans really pushed back on this on sunday, you saw lindsey graham saying that he needs to focus on attacking the issues tom emmer, who has been helping j.d. vance prepare for the debate. all of them saying this is not the solution here. this is not the strategy, but donald trump again, this is what he does when a train. >> thank you so much, alayna much more to come on this sir. >> all right. the vice presidential debate fast approaching. we will see tim walz and j.d. vance go head-to-head tomorrow night, but kamala harris does not want but to be the final big national tv moment in the

campaign. she wants another presidential debate and it's trying to go donald trump into it. listen their debate should not be the last word. >> i'm trying to debate donald trump again in las vegas phone she also ran this ad during the georgia alabama football game this weekend winners never back down from a challenge. >> champions know it's any time, any place. >> but losers, they whine and waffle and take their ball home. well, donald, i do hope you'll reconsidered to meet me on the debate stage. if you have something to say is joining me now pete seat, former white house spokesperson for george w bush, and julie

roginsky, democratic strategist, pete, i'm going to begin with you will the american people see another presidential debate before the election? >> i think a lot of that depends on what happens tomorrow night between j.d. vance and tim walz, if j.d. vance gets the job done and remains fixated on torching the biden/harris record and getting the american people to ask themselves, are you upset about the economy, about inflation? and about immigration? then you're upset with kamala harris and tim walz, and you should not vote for them if he can get that message clearly across, which is not a message that donald trump has been getting across clearly, then we probably won't have a second presidential debate. but if donald trump thinks that j.d. vance does not delay deliver, i think there are pretty good chances that will see that second debate that is a really interesting argument and we're all looking forward to the debate. >> julie, i just want to ask you. we just heard from alayna treene. we heard the words of

donald trump, which i'm not going to repeat about kamala harris because they are unhinged and unfair when it comes to her mental stability. but i do want to ask asked you if this is showing us that it's getting under his skin, that she is trying to take on the border issue, which he is polling very well with when it comes to immigration yeah look, i mean, clearly the tax about his mental health or getting to him and he's projecting this is what he does. >> and george conway and others who've made a big deal about the fact that he has mentally unstable. clearly has gotten under his skin look, you can judge for yourself as to who does hinge candidate here is in terms of what she's doing with immigrations, she's just trying i see look, she's not going to win that battle. she's incumbent vice president. but she has to do just enough politically to take some voters away from him on that issue. and i think she's doing that much. he's glad she's gotten fairly even with him on the economy. and some poles who are trying to do the same on immigration as she has to keep repeating a very basic fact, which is we would have had an immigration deal had donald

trump supported it, but he killed it in the senate. a varying jim lankford, a very conservative republican orchestrated what is the strongest global immigration deal we would have had in generations. and donald trump called up and said, i don't want this because i want chaos at the border, because i want to run on this issue if that's something that she's able to repeat over and over and over again. she has voters will understand that really the person who is at fault here in trying to arrest any kind of immigration chaos is donald trump ultimately, pete, that is one of those issues that she keeps hammering home. >> i do want to talk to you about nbc news. is latest poll well, there's some notable numbers on how harris is doing with latino voters. she's leading the demographic by 14 points over donald trump, but that margin lower than the exist in these polls than previous elections for the democratic nominee, biden won latino voters by 33 points in 2020 according to exit polls, clinton won by even more than that in 2016 how concerned should she be first usually

about these numbers? >> it's a concern. i have sat through focus groups over the last decade with latino voters, and i can tell you from just being in those focus groups, latino voters are incredibly pragmatic they're all about. i want my pothole fixed and my street and i want it now, first of all, i hate talking about latino voters right away because you don't have much in common with guatemala's and so on and so forth. so but if that's how we're going to characterize them in polling, i would say that democrats i haven't sounding the alarm and this with democrats for a decade because i've seen the erosion happening and it's real. and i would say that regardless of what happens in november, democrats need to take a very hard look over the next months and years. in trying to bring those voters back into the democratic fold because they are, they are seeping and they're going to continue to see from democratic party unless we really, really, really prioritize getting the back pizzi, i would get to you, run out of time, but i will say i think she made some of the points that you may have made as well in all fairness, appreciate