>> it's a concern. i have sat through focus groups over the last decade with latino voters, and i can tell you from just being in those focus groups, latino voters are incredibly pragmatic they're all about. i want my pothole fixed and my street and i want it now, first of all, i hate talking about latino voters right away because you don't have much in common with guatemala's and so on and so forth. so but if that's how we're going to characterize them in polling, i would say that democrats i haven't sounding the alarm and this with democrats for a decade because i've seen the erosion happening and it's real. and i would say that regardless of what happens in november, democrats need to take a very hard look over the next months and years. in trying to bring those voters back into the democratic fold because they are, they are seeping and they're going to continue to see from democratic party unless we really, really, really prioritize getting the back pizzi, i would get to you, run out of time, but i will say i think she made some of the points that you may have made as well in all fairness, appreciate both of you, pete

seat and julie roginsky. thank you, both. a new hour of cnn, new central starts right now. >> all right. breaking overnight, getting ward, the biden administration he is preparing for a possible iranian attack. historic devastation. we just got a brand new death toll from hurricane helene now, one hundred and two people killed that number does appear to be rising. we are getting our first look at some of the areas hardest hit and brand new details on how the vice presidential candidates are preparing for tomorrow night's debate. i'm john berman with sara sidner and kate baldwin. this is cnn new central destruction and devastation than people really are having a hard time putting words to this morning when you just take a look at these images from

florida to virginia power systems, crippled roadways washed out, cell service, wiped out food, water, and fuel. >> now, becoming hard to come by. hurricane helene is left so much damage in its wake. and as janja said, just moments ago, we have a new death toll number the death toll is rising at least 102 people have been killed from this storm, hundreds of people are still unaccounted for the latest check. this the latest check, and then some of the other numbers this morning, nearly 2 million customers do not have power, utility crews are working on it. but if you just take a look at the damage sustained, just look look at that in one part in north carolina, the roadways impassable debris left behind. it's clear that they have huge challenges ahead, ahead of them to restore power in north carolina, the last numbers what we had in north carolina where at least 36 people were killed and there have been more than 1,000 reports of people missing we had the governor of north carolina on with us just last

hour tremendous effort in the short run. >> but looking at it, at the long run with hundreds of roads that are destroyed communities that were wiped off the map we have to make sure that we get in there are smart about rebuilding doing it in a more resilient way but right now we're concentrating on saving lives and getting supplies to people who desperately, desperately need them and this is days in cnn's rafael romo joins us now from asheville, north carolina, one of the places hardest hit rafael, what are you hearing from residents and it's are desperate here because it's been three days since the storm hit this area. >> and let me describe to you where we are this behind me is a billboard, avenues, one of the hardest hit areas here in asheville, north carolina. you can see behind me that wendy's is surrounded by mud, then on

the other side of this, there's a long john silver's that is surrounded by debris and then you find mud everywhere. no matter where you look, it's muddy and it also things that have, been carried away by the floodwaters like this barrel container that ended up here in the middle of this gas station where we are, which of course is not operational and that goes for not only this gas station, but does this and dozens in this part of the country. and one of the things that i was noticing kate is that, for example, this screen here at the gas pump. it has sand inside this green which tells you that at one point the water level was at least this high. now, we have been talking to people here who tell us that they have no water, they have no power mobile services nonexistent. the same goes for internet, than they're getting desperate because they are unable to talk to the loved ones to let them know that they're okay. we

also heard from people just north of here in madison county in the mountain areas. and they described to us what it was like to go through this very powerful storm let's take a listen edges, happens watch the water come, push through these walls take out buildings, and move them entire areas over. there, takes my breath away you know, it's it's been here for so long. >> the face pause springs is never going to be the same again but that doesn't mean that hotsprings will not be the same our community will be the same. we've come together, and this is going to make a stronger as many bad things is that i have seen i've seen a lot of good things in recent days with people helping people strangers hug strangers relief is coming for sure to

north carolina, probably not as fast as people would like kate, but the reality is that the state officials are saying that there are as many as 19 out-of-state search and rescue rescue teams. >> there are three more from the federal government at the north carolina national guard rescued 100 people, hundreds more by all those teams that i mentioned before. but the reality is that still hundreds of thousands of customers without power at this point, there's a little bit of good news here. we were talking about about 400 roads that were impassible on saturday. the figure last night was 280, so slowly, but surely things are getting better here. now back to you. okay. >> rafael, thank you. unfortunately, the governor of north carolina said that number of impassable roads has now ticked back up and he said that he's going to be heading in with the fema director today to see the damage himself, john, what a challenge there. >> all right. new this morning, the clearest signs, yet that a ground incursion into lebanon

may be imminent after new airstrikes on beirut, a major intersection in beirut including a residential high-rise, were hit cnn international diplomatic editor nic robertson is in tel aviv. the question i think everyone wants to know, nic. will israel move in on the ground troops who are on the border right now want to know that as well, john and the defense minister yoav galant, was up there at the border speaking to them to golani brigade. >> this is one of the most battle experienced battle-ready infantry units. that the, that the israeli military have. they also have the elite paratroopers from the 98th division there along the border, the scene is set and the message from the defense minister today appears to be very clear. he said, look, killing hassan nasrallah was a very important first step but this is a message to our enemies. we are, we have many capabilities. we are going to

use. all our capabilities and he was saying that to these elite troops, right at the border, that and he said, when i say all our capabilities i mean, you that's what he was telling the troops. we've seen over the past few days, tanks, armored personnel carriers in video, that's been released by the idf. so the signs and signals are there for israel's enemies to see. but the messaging for the troops coming from the minister himself. that is also there so this is a very strong and clear signal out, and we also know that of course there have been a reservist groups called up as well over recent days, john nic, you mentioned all capabilities also, perhaps all enemies you were on an idf carrier that was part of the mission. recent airstrike against yemen the second longest and combat mission that the israeli air force has ever undertaken. the last one was back in 1985. i was aboard a boeing 707 which

was fitted out as a fuel carrier that was dispensing fuel to f35 fighter jets and that's what i was seeing as we flew down the red sea to the yemeni port city of hudaydah, which is houthi controlled. and they're f 35s, took part in strikes against it's a power station against against the fuel depot. there and the message i was told this is to the houthis who had only the day before fired another ballistic missile into the heart of israel. indeed, they said they were firing it at the airport, the main international airport here, whether prime minister was on the tarmac coming back for new york. this was very strong message for the houthis. cease and desist, and a message for the iranians to, and that message echoes what the prime minister has been saying. he said at the unga israel has a long reach and it can reach out and get its enemies a message to iran to stay out of a fight that's

going on in lebanon right now. >> a flurry of new developments there, nic robertson in tel aviv. nic, thank you very much, sara. >> all alright. and joining us now, a retired major, lyons, my clients and we're going to have barak ravid as well, political and foreign policy reporter for axios. i'm going to start with you meter. when you look at this, i want to go to the beirut damage because we've heard nasrallah has been taken out. they are going to now name a new leader. but there are all these other top leaders of hezbollah who had been taken out with the pagers and with strikes. and how damaged is is hezbollah at this point, how much trouble are they in a very significant surge? >> look at this damage here. i mean, this casualties must be off the charts when you think about the level of attacks here, bunker busters, not only did they get the leadership, they got the lieutenants, the second and third team level members. so it's significant, there's no question about it. and then also the communications with pagers and

walkie-talkies takes out another whole layer, so they've been seriously decimated at this point. now again, they still have capability and let's hope, you know, israel is not going to take advantage vomit from overreaching perspective, thinking that this is now over at anytime soon, hezbollah still has tremendous capability right? >> barak ravid, i'm gonna go back up but to the, this map where we are now hearing and seeing that israeli troops are amassing on the border. what are the chances you think that they will actually go in to lebanon? >> i think the chances are very high here from israeli officials that it could be a matter of days these rallies already have enough forces on the border to at least start a ground invasion that will be focused on what's called the first the line of villages on the lebanese side of the border where the israeli military believes there are quite

significant hezbollah military infrastructure, either outpost, tunnels missile launch positions and the idea is to go to this first line of villages to quote unquote, like from what israeli officials say, quote-unquote clean it up and then either go back or stay there some sort of security zone, at least temporarily all right leisure. >> i'm just curious how much further when you look at sort of the region, how much further can israel go without iran deciding to engage itself directly? >> well, iran doesn't really have many allies now that can help them at this point, i don't think from a military perspective, which is what israel's designed to do, is take out hamas, take out hezbollah. they fired that the mnes further the houthis down there. we've seen those rockets there. so iran is really out of, you know, kind of magic wands when it comes to

having allies in the region. so the next the expansion of the conflict is israel attacks iran or its ron attacks in israel. i think that if a ron good because israel, a reason to do that, the first target is all the nuclear capability that the iranians have. that's what this i think is really about israel's, you're looking over the horizon saying we have to take out that nuclear capability that the iranians have. the iranians have for the last 30 years assembled these proxy forces around israel to be kind of a ring of fire to keep israel on there toes and keep them always on the defensive. but right now, israel said this is the time for war and regional war means israel going after. those nuclear facilities so you've got the houthis, you've got hasb lie you've got hamas. >> and then you've got way over here, iran and you're seeing the strikes in strategic places and there's an expectation you just heard from braugher v. that maybe there is going to be a ground war. if there is a ground war what about a regional conflagration? it already seems like we're headed that way but a ground war is smaller incursion. i don't think it goes into beirut. i

don't think it goes and things can go that far. no, i think israel well, again, it's going to play this smartly, get into what i'll call tube artillery range 20 to 25 kilometers north of that border there to try to move back the civilians. so the northern region, if you look at that a map the missile range. when you look at the ranges of these rockets here any of these rockets and these missiles down here, are strategic these, these iron dome is taking out these kind of rockets here, but it's this year the katyushas and the philoctetes. these are the ones that really threatened those areas in the north here. so that i think is what israel's focus is going to be now, hezbollah still has this capability to overwhelm iron dome is real, can still take casualties, significant casualties here, let's hope they're not overreaching. >> you also have david's sling that also tries to get because they only taken one of the long-range rockets from lebanon to you, barack when it comes to the capabilities of israel what is going to make it to that they're overstretched or are you concerned that they have that? the troop numbers to be able to do, for example, a ground invasion as well

most of the forces that were in gaza over the last 11 months of moved to the north right now, israel has in gaza something like two brigades? >> very low numbers of troops, all of them, all the others mostly moved to the northern arena, either the border with lebanon also the border with syria but the problem is not whether the spread problem is that once he go in, you can never really say, okay, we're stopping here in 1982 when israel went into lebanon firstly, we'll supposed to go up to the litani river, which is something like ten kilometers from the border. then it turned into 40 kilometers from the border. eventually they reached bail the root and israel stayed in lebanese territory for almost 20 years with a hundreds of israeli soldiers killed in the insurgency that took place. there and the power that did

this insurgency was hezbollah so we can all already learn from history that once they go in you have a real danger of staying there for a long, long time, all right. >> another 2006 war lasted i think something like 34 days or something like that. major my clients. thank you so much as to you, but ravid for that great analysis. that's appreciate you both. kate the pentagon is making new moves to prepare for any possible retaliation from iran, from all of this, what that now means for us troops in the region. >> and vice presidential candidates have one more day to prep two day. that is before they face off on the debate stage tomorrow for what could be the final debate of being the entire election cycle with power out and food and water systems just devastated now for days already in all of the states hit by hurricane helene the new concern is illness. what families need to know right now as rescue crews try to get all of these systems back online

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more than j.d. vance that wasn't mckay coppins book romney, a reckoning again, i think j.d. vance is going to do a great job tomorrow night when people decide the issues and the issues are very clear for the american people donald trump had a great economy, lowest unemployment rate in 50, 50 years, i think it was half a century he had families making $6,000 more in wages over the course of his his tenure in his first term, guess what? chad kamala harris, joe biden, broke the economy. they open the border. they've created all these problems around the globe jd is going to do a great job talking about the fact that donald trump did it once. he'll fix it again, economist mark zandi just called this the greatest economy he's seen in 35 years. >> the unemployment rate has been consistently at 4% or lower and gdp has been around 3% for the entire administration comparing economic records, i am sure the candidates will do that in your preparation. how challenging has it been to get senator vance to hew to the facts and i

asked that because of the things that he said that were dishonest about eating pets in ohio. i ask it because he claims that president biden didn't passed or signed the law mandating $35 insulin for all medicaid recipients. >> this is the problem with the media, john, quite frankly, you just talked about how unemployment so low, how this is the greatest economy ever we've seen, just keep saying that because the americans that i'm dealing with, the constituents they see an economy that's broken. they see inflation that cost them $1,200 more a month on average for the same basket of goods they just bought four years ago. you keep saying it and you keep trying to distract from the issues with these. i was i was going let's andy and i was giving you unemployment figures, but i asked you a question about facts and j.d. vance, right? what about and i asked you to talk about facts that are important to the american people. >> the economy that biden broke, that trump will fix the border that kamala harris has left wide. >> oh, it's okay. it's okay. it's okay. you do miss date facts when you don't think

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changing in the region? as they prepare for potentially a ground invasion into lebanon by israel well, sara, according to the pentagon what the secretary of defense has ordered is for the u.s. >> to bolster its air support capabilities in the region in the country coming days and that will likely involve sending additional fighter aircraft to the region. there are already squadrons of f 15s, f-16s at 22s, eight-tens all in the region. they're prepared for the possibility that this is going to escalate even further. the secretary has also ordered that us troops increased their preparedness to deploy really the out of moment's notice, if necessary. so what does that mean? that means, for example, if troops were previously supposed to only be prepared to deploy within a matter of 72 hours, for example, now they have to be ready within 24 hours or even less so all of this is in preparation for possibility. we are told that this conflict escalates to the point where iran actually gets involved. that is the biggest concern

right now for us officials and the pentagon actually noted this in their statement. they said quote, should iran, its partners, or its proxies use this moment to target american personnel or interests in the region the united states will take every necessary measures to defend our people. now, a us official did tell me that if iran does fear that hezbollah is going to be completely dismantled by all of these israeli airstrikes by possible ground incursion into southern lebanon than iran might indeed feel compelled to intervene in the conflict because hezbollah, of course is iran's most important proxy militia in the region. but the u.s now saying that they are prepared for every possible contingency here we should note that the secretary of defense also ordered that the lincoln carrier strike groups stay in a region that's currently in the arabian sea, as well as the wasp amphibious ready group, which is in the eastern mediterranean that is equipped with thousands of marines who are prepared to help any potential evacuation operation. again, if this conflict

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carolina in buncombe county alone, there have been over 600 people reported on accounted for with dozens of confirmed deaths one of the towns hit hard in that county, weaverville and joining us on the phone right now is the mayor of weaverville? mayor patrick fitzsimmons, mayor. can you hear me i can thank you so much. and i know cell phone service is a luxury right now for all of you as of yesterday go ahead. >> it is a luxury and i'm glad i got expects right now. i just want to warn you. it could drop at any minute well, while we have you tell me what is what is happened. >> and is happening in weaverville? >> she we expected a really bad storm, but nothing like this. it's really been incredible. i live in a very forested city and we have just hundreds and hundreds of huge trees have come down, destroyed the power infrastructure were not expecting to have power, water, or quite frankly, even self-service, which amazing i have have right now. but at

least for a week, probably longer. and there's been a town next to me, swannanoa has essentially been washed away we now are confirming 30 deaths in this county, but unfortunately we're expecting that to go much higher than makes me that gives me chills. i'm so so sorry to hear that. it's now been five days mayor since the storm hit and hearing you say that no water, no fuel, no power is expected maybe for another week is the response. five days later and you're still looking at this. do you think the response has been too slow from the state? >> no. we think the state has done a great job. the reality is, for us, is that roads are washed out, the interstates are closed because of bridge repairs and sinkholes, et cetera. so literally, you can't get into our area still even today, we did get some supplies him by helicopter, yes. thanks. so we hope to have water distribution sites set up and we've believed that we're getting generators as well to

her trying to restart our water plant so we can get water to our citizens how many people are still unaccounted for? know, we don't we have we have had 6,000 people have responded to a website. we have where you can request to be hooked up with your missing family. someone those are probably duplicates, but nonetheless, there's a lot of folks and communication is so disrupted people can and gets calls out to their friends and family and then know that their lives days. >> what do people in weaverville need first and most immediately mayor greatest concern, and we're working feverishly on trying to solve that problem tower. you can deal with a little better water is really essential. and there's not only no as our water plant down, there is no commercial or retail water available in our city oh, my goodness. >> i was just looking. we're the regional head for the red

cross in western north carolina for a time. how do you describe what you have seen so far from this storm in terms of damage considering all the natural disasters that you've responded to over the years? >> this is really bad i was i was around for the hurricanes that hit our area and was managing the disaster operation in 20 22,004. this is far worse. not only do we get just historical flooding we have hurricane force winds this far inland from the coast a huge oak tree in my backyard came down on my house as well. and i'm missed an old oak tree that was a great tree it's a small things and the big things all added up together to really dealing with marathon. >> thank you so much. i'm so thankful for cell phone service that we could hear from you. we spoke to the mayor. he's going to be heading out to the area and a helicopter with the fema director today. thank you so much for jumping on. we will

stay in close touch with trying to help with whatever we can for the people in your city. thank you very much thank you sir. all right. thank you, kate, in the aftermath of hurricane helene, public health risks are a major concern, especially in areas still saturated by floodwater. you heard the mayor there saying water is a huge concern. let's bring in cnn health reporter jacqueline howard tells us what the potential, potential problems with water are right now yes, sara well, what we know about this floodwater, it's not just rainwater. the public health risks are because this is water contaminated by sewage chemicals. >> it also may have sharp objects like glass and metal in it. and for those reasons that's why there are health risks. like if you encounter hunter this floodwater, you come it comes with the risk of wound infection, possibly other types of bacterial infection, harmful bacterias are also in this water. you could

experience other gastrointestinal illnesses after you encounter floodwater like this. and we also know that tetanus is a big risk as well. and that's why it's so important for people to avoid walking through this floodwater, avoid driving through it. we don't know how deep it may be in some places. if you do have to encounter floodwater because you're part of rescue efforts or you're part of safety efforts, then you want to definitely make sure to wear tall rubber boots, make sure these boots are snake proof. there could be snakes or other wildlife in the water where rubber gloves wear goggles because sarah, again, the risks here are high and we also know that floodwater can attract swarms of mosquitoes. so also wearing mosquito repellent as well. now, if you're someone who's already been exposed to floodwater after the fact you want to definitely make sure to clean any area that was exposed thoroughly, wash, hear yourself disinfect clothing, wash clothing in hot water, check yourself for open wounds, your

wound could have been infected if that's the case, talk to your doctor, seek medical attention, and also determined whether you might need a tetanus but these are definitely things to do after the fact and to be aware of during this now aftermath, sara yeah. >> and the big problem here though is there's most people, a lot of people, especially in this in this region don't have access to clean water and they are having to go places to try to find it. so it is one of those things struggling with at this hour, jacqueline howard. thank you so much for that. job. >> right this morning, rescue teams in nepal are scrambling to free people trapped by landslides from heavy rain fain there, a two-year-old boy was pulled alive from the rubble. you see that right there his parents and brother were killed. >> the floodwaters and mudslides have destroys hundreds of homes and cut off highways. remarkable images this morning and evacuation order is in effect for nearly 17,000 people following a fire at a chemical facility outside glad to the fire is now out,

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get right to cnn's alayna treene for the latest on this alayna, what are you hearing from the trump side? >> well, look, this is definitely not a strategy that they want donald trump to be taking. and we've been very clear on this and reporting this for several months now that donald trump continues to lob a personal attack that kamala harris, even though people within his own campaign, his allies are saying that is not the right path for a particularly now that one we're in such a close stretch to the november 5 election. we heard from senator lindsey graham saying that he doesn't think that harris is crazy, but perhaps her policies are we heard a tom emmer who is helping senator j.d. vance prepare for the vice presidential debate tomorrow. say that he needs to be talking about the issues, not personal attacks but this is something we've seen from donald trump and look, he, these comments came in a string of speeches that he gave where he really was painting a very dark picture of america. and it came shortly after harris visited the border on friday. and we

know that donald trump has been fixated on that visit. he believes that she's really fighting on turf, that he considers his own. now, i do also though, want to talk to you about something we also heard donald trump say yesterday while in erie, pennsylvania, he appeared to call for an hour of violence when discussing what he argued was a major problem with shoplifting, he also claimed that progress passive policies are putting constraints on police and having them struggle with cracking down on this. but really his solution for it was quite jarring. i want you to take a listen to what he said if you had one day like one real rough, nasty day with the drugstores as an example, all these shows go out of business, right? they don't pay rent did the city does have a whole it's a chain of events. it's so bad. >> one rough hour. and i mean real rough. >> the word will get out and it will end immediately. so again,

pretty jarring remarks from donald trump where he seems to be almost calling for police brutality to respond to this. and i do want to be very clear, john, that despite some of these viral videos we've seen of mobs, scharf, shoplifting and ransacking stores. we know that nationwide this type of crime has not gone up meaningfully. so i keep that in mind, but this is a frequent line of attack we hear from donald trump, particularly when he tries to focus on whether it be the border or crime. these are issues we know that donald trump had to prioritize. he is polling better than harris on these issues. however, the ways in which he is trying to frame this rhetoric, a lot of republicans are not on board with it treene for us in washington. >> thank you very much, sarah e. i'm here, john. all right. the 2024 election, maybe the tightest election that we have ever seen every voting bloc will have an impact. so today our senior data reporter, harry enten looked at a very specific

vote, the union vote. what are you seeing? >> one of many elements that we'll be looking at this morning. you know, sometimes there are data points that just jump off the screen it should set off sirens. alright, this is union households, this is democratic margin and presidential election. it ain't what it used to be. you know, you go back to 1992, bill clinton won that union vote by 30 points. hillary clinton only won it by 12 points back in 2016. that was the lowest mark for a democrat since 1984, mondale versus reagan. but looked at where kamala harris this is today. she is only leading by nine points. that would be the worst democratic performance in a generation. ten points off the mark of joe biden, who of course won four years ago, was sort of that union guy, union joe, right? one up by 19 point. she's ten points off his mark. and the worst in a generation if this, in fact hold sara, it is interesting to note that the difference between this and this and biden is still one. so one, but those numbers are significantly down. all right, talk to me about manual labor. those folks who went to trade schools. >> yeah. those folks who use

their hands, i think a lot of people often the times complaint, the union vote with those who used our hands. mike rowe, of course, has been arguing more people should go to trade schools, more people should get a vocational degree. look at this margin. this to me. oh boy, does this tell you about the state of our politics now versus back in the early 1990s, margin among vocational and trade school grads in pre-election polling. though clinton was leading that vote over george hw bush by seven points. look, get where donald trump is today, over kamala harris, a 31 point advantage when i think people think of the working class, they think of people who use their hands. and we know that donald trump has been going after that vote and he is in a very very strong position, more so perhaps than any other bloc. the folks who go to trade school vocations that has moved from being a core democratic group to now being a core group of donald trump's massive amount of support among the working class. >> alright, let's move on to voters of color and there's a very specific group that you looked out. and what are you saying? yeah, you know, we've been noting on this program, right? that donald trump seems to have been having some real

impact among voters of color getting into that traditional democratic support. and i was very interested to see this because we're talking about the working class, right? so this is the margin among non-college graduates, all right, the voters of color, you go back four years ago, look at that joe biden won that group by 45 points look at where kamala harris's support as they she's the leading amongst that group, but that lead is down 17 points to just 28 points. and i will note that the margin among voters of color who actually graduate college is only been changed by five 5.5 points compared to four years ago, the reason donald trump is doing so well amongst voters of color is because he has really gone in grant a lot of voters that he didn't previously have among those who didn't graduate college. and this is part of a larger trend that we're seeing throughout our politics era in which republicans specifically donald trump is doing very, very well among working class voters where they were in unions, where they went to trade school, or whether they're voters of color. the fact is donald trump seems to have gone into a hotbed of traditional democratic support and made a lot of movement in ways i don't think a lot of

people would have thought when he went down that escalator just back in 2015. >> all right. harry enten bringing us the numbers as they look right now, really appreciate it. >> thank you, sara and throwback to the escalator that no one could ever forget joining us right now is cnn political commentator se cupp. >> let's focus in on what alayna treene was talking about in terms of as she's been following the trump camp pain and gone to so many trump rallies. the dark picture that he is painting continues to paint about the world today. and in part also falling back on targeting kamala harris with personal attacks even though republican after republican continues to say, don't, let's, let me play this biden became mentally impaired, said but lying, kamala harris honestly, i believe she was born that way there's something wrong with kamala and i just don't know what it is there's

but there is definitely something missing. >> and you know what everybody knows it no, i just think she's crazy, liberal. >> i don't question her but what do you think about that rhetoric? i just think the better course to take has to prosecute the case that her policies are destroying the country. they're crazy liberal. now, i'm not saying she's crazy. i've saying your party your policies are crazy lindsey graham's take on on the messaging and staying on or not on the method. it's not a strategy, it's just, it is donald trump, but the impact as it's fallen back on kind of the old tendencies as we're entering, as this layout game. what do you think of this? >> it's not a good idea and republicans who are worried about the health of the party, down-ballot know it's not a good idea swing-state voters, undecided voters tell us they don't want this kind of language. they don't want her race questions. they don't want to hear that she's crazy. they

don't want to hear that she's dumb. they don't want the personal attacks more than that though there's some other stuff he's been saying that we're going to prosecutor we're going to impeach her a lot of swing state voters and undecided voters are also telling us they don't want the chaos that defined a lot of the trump administration and they don't want the oversight, the investigations, the nonsense, clogging up congress. so they're worried that if republicans keep the house all they're going to do is impeached and investigate and they don't want that either. so a lot of this stuff that he's saying is playing to the base but it is not playing to the voters that he needs in this final stretch, you can have something that's really, it's like two things existing at the same time and it's like which one is going to win out, right? now because one of the reasons i'm one of the things we heard from voters ahead of the 20 you 20 election when he lost, was there a tired of the chaos? yeah. they were tired of the nonsense but now ahead of the 24 election, we heard from a lot of voters. we've really liked the policies is i

remember the good, those good old separate the two and it's a shame because two of the top issues for voters really inert to the benefit of donald trump. that's immigration. and the economy. >> if he could stick on those issues. i have no doubt he would win, but he can't he's talking too much about issues that in to the benefit of harris, like abortion women's reproductive rights. he's doing that in a way that does not appeal to these moderate voters, certainly doesn't appeal to the suburban women that he lost. so he's he's getting it wrong. we'll see if the issues are big enough to win out and block out the rhetoric. but i'm just telling you what we're hearing from swing state voters. the very voters inside this, and look, polling is showing she's closing the gap on in terms of where they are turn the economy, but immigration still, there is a lot of strength there too. yes, we will see vp debate. yeah rarely carries a lot of weight. i don't know guests entering it could be the last debate of the entire cycle. do think this one is different.