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we start with breaking news tonight. israeli forces are now entering lebanon they are carrying out what they call a limited ground operation. it is a major escalation, one that is renewing fears that iran could now be poised to step in the pentagon tonight, that to deploy additional us troops and fighter jets all the region in response. so far we know that the idf says it's targeting hezbollah in southern lebanon. the announcement comes just hours after israeli raids and artillery fire was reported across the border, airstrikes also hitting inside of beirut's city limits for the first time since october 7, mr. short time ago. we saw a projectile over the night sky in tel aviv. now it's unclear where it came from. the ground operation falls or rapid escalation in fighting over the past couple of weeks along with massive setbacks for iran back

hezbollah the group's communications took a hit after thousands of their pagers and walkie-talkies exploded. israel has also taken out several has flown leaders, including the man at the very top kherson, nasrallah cnn is on the ground tonight international correspondent ben wedeman is in beirut and international correspondent jeremy diamond is in northern israel ben, let me begin with you. this is a limited ground operation into southern lebanon. it's happening as we speak. what is the situation on the ground, right? now laura, the israeli say it's a limited ground operation, but the fear here is that it's going to be much more israel has an invasion of launching, has a history of launching limited ground incursions that end up, for instance, in 1982 surrounding where i am, the city of beirut, particularly the western side.

>> but we have heard from people in the south that the israeli incursion was preceded by intense bombardments spreading, stretching well in to lebanon, we spoke to one family near the border who said that there was shelling all around them, that they were terrified. they called the lebanese army to extract them but the lebanese army had pulled their forces back from their observation post and the border. and because of the shelling, they weren't able to now, we have in lebanon at the moment, more than 1 million people who've been displaced by israeli bombing or threats of bombing. and the worry is that if israeli forces enter south lebanon in large numbers in fate and basically becomes an invasion. then 1 million could become much more and this is a country that has been going through a prolonged

economic, economic collapse. the government doesn't have the resources to house, to feed to shelter he's people and therefore, people are just terrified. that this is the beginning of yet another nightmare for lebanon. laura chairman, let me bring you in here as ben as describe what's going on in beirut. >> israel has called this a new phase of the conflict. what do we know about there? land and how large of an operation is this or how long might it last well, we don't know exactly what the size of the force that israel has sent into lebanon tonight, but make no mistake, even as israeli officials tried to downplay this by calling it a limited operation, the israeli military saying that these are limited did localize targeted ground raids. >> this is the first time in nearly two decades that these really military has announced that it has sent a ground force into lebanon the last time, of

course, was during the 2006 israel-lebanon war. and this is taking this conflict to new heights israeli officials tell me that this operation is going to be focused it's on the villages and hezbollah posts along the israel gaza, israel, lebanon border. but at the same time, we know that we don't know exactly how far those troops are going to go and for how long they will be staying there. one senior israeli official telling me that they have no intention of a long-term occupation. shan of southern lebanon. they say that is not going to happen, but they also won't tell me exactly how long they expect this ground operation to last. and of course we know as ben was talking about, there is always a risk once you get into a ground fighting of mission creep of these soldiers going deeper into lebanon of the mission being extended further. and in terms of scope, as well as timing, of course tonight though i can tell you that we are hearing the sounds of that ground operation, artillery

very frequently, very consistently being fired from very near to where we are just a couple of miles away from the lebanon border into southern lebanon and of course, in southern lebanon, we are seeing some of those explosions. we are seeing the flares as this ground operation begins. the question now how long it will last or ben wedeman, jeremy diamond. thank you both so much. we're continuing to rely on you to be our eyes on the ground, respectively. and i want to bring in david sanger, a cnn political and national well security analyst. he's also the white house and national security correspondent for the new york times. also hear david hale, former us ambassador to lebanon pakistan, and jordan, also major john spencer, the chair of urban warfare studies at the modern war institute and the co-author of understanding urban war fair. ambassador hale, let me begin with you this evening. how do you think iran is viewing this move by israel tonight will rhonda suffered a

series of blows, obviously because of the successes of israeli operations against their most precious proxy, hezbollah after a long period in which the iranians felt they had the upper hand. >> but i can't discount anything but the pattern of the past has been such that the iranians would be loath to get themselves directly involved in the confrontation with iran. we saw that with israel, excuse me. we saw that in the earlier this year when the iranian revolutionary guard commanders were killed in damascus iran law did bunch of missiles and drones into or toward israel and israel and the united states and other neighboring states were successful in interdicting those those attacks. so i think the iranians prefer to go back to where they are comfortable, which is asymmetrical warfare in which aaron proxies are paying the price for the campaign against israel. >> david sanger, netanyahu launched the operation just hours after president biden so this is real maybe now

launching a limited operation into lebanon. are you aware of that? are you comfortable with their plan? >> i'm more aware than you might know, and i'm comfortable with them stopping we should have a ceasefire now why does there seem to be so much daylight between the united states and israel right now well, it is remarkable and there are a couple of possible explanations one of them is that these two leaders don't have a whole lot left. to say to each other since this all began with more than ten days ago with pager attacks, the attack on that missile facility or manufacturing facility in syria in the killing of nasrallah. there has been no conversations yet between president biden and prime minister netanyahu, the white house has said that they're looking for an opportunity to do that. well, it wouldn't be very hard to do one second is i suspect that the prime minister

has determined that, first of all, the united states is certainly not going to protest the killing of a mass murder or like nasrallah mean afterward for all hezbollah and nasrallah were on the u.s us terror list so they were will within the bounds of the relationship for that. but i think that the prime minister has calculated rightly did he could ignore the call for a ceasefire that you just heard from president biden. and that the administration told us last wednesday night they thought the israelis had agreed to well, that was just before they began all of this invasion. so it's pretty remarkable example of defiance of an ally and in part is because president biden has declined to use his only leverage which would be the withhold some weaponry and he doesn't want to do that. and appear to be keeping israel from defending itself major spencer.

>> we bring you into this conversation as well, because israel says they are going after a number of villages. that's their quote on the border, what would not ration like that actually look like yeah it would be very contested. similar, but if not worse than 2006 lebanon war hezbollah has had many, many years to prepare is called the land of tunnels that has blood tunnels in southern lebanon or are hundreds of miles the anti-tank guided munitions have advanced since 2006. it would be a very strong fight and we've seen to include what the idf has released of hezbollah also trying to embed in civilian areas like those urban areas which are bigger now i mean, all the roads lead to urban areas, but i mean, i don't want some may thinking this will look like the urban warfare of gaza made the objectives are different. the terrain is different. even the strategic goals that this is about putting hezbollah out of

a direct gun pointed at israelis hit i was up there in february. you can literally see positions where they're not supposed to be in accordance with the un security council resolution but you can see position from israel's actual border so it would be a lot different, but yes, there would be very destructive warfare trying to get hezbollah to adhere to you know over a year was worth a diplomatic means to get them to clear back major spencer were aware too that there's an unspecified number of us troops. >> there are being put on, prepare to deploy orders. and i want to bring in at this point to david sanger on this because it was turning this point is, is there a right? best care we and i have talked about this in the past. when you've got an unspecified number of troops that are getting these orders and these orders are prepared to deploy orders americans ears perk up. the question being, of course, will the u.s end up getting involved specifically

in this any indication the u.s. would probably do everything it could to stay out. but there is one condition under which i imagine the u.s. could be brought into with laura and that would be if the israelis go directly after iran or against iran's nuclear program. and the iranians respond against israel. we did see in the spring, the u.s. participated very heavily in intercepting a direct missile attack. but first one in decades against israel from iran, actually, it's the first since the iranian revolution and i couldn't imagine seeing that situation again. >> and of course that's exactly what the president is trying to avoid. >> in the last four months of his presidency and at a time that donald trump is making a

somewhat disingenuous case, that the world was at peace when he was president, ambassador hell i'm eager to hear your response on this because we keep hearing this phrase tonight. >> the idf saying its a limited operation ration. they're not giving a timeline. do you have an expectation of what that timeline would look like and what the parameters of so-called limited operation would look like. >> well, the israelis learned in the 2006 war, which is the last time you can sort of judge how things go. although the level of sophistication and amount of equipment, military equipment is vastly larger. but they found that although there chief of staff at the idf convinced the prime minister that they could achieve their goals through an air assault. only. >> it turned out they couldn't and so they were forced at the very end of the 2006 borderland launch, a ground invasion. it didn't go very well. >> i think they've learned some of those lessons and i think they realized that they're going to achieve their goal of creating a security environment

on the border that enables 60,000 civilians feel back home. >> they do have to go in and mop things up. but the key question as your corresponded in the fields said was, what really, how do you define and how did they define limited and short term? because that's a very subjective set of things. and if it's really quick and really short, that's fine but there's a temptation to have the mission creep and there's nothing by the way it would be more welcome by iran and hezbollah then have the iranian attack the israelis bogged down again in the long-term occupation in lebanon that was guaranteed to turn the tables back again in favor of his bowl over time in the lebanese environment. so i hope the israelis have learned that lesson. will do what they're announcing, which is that this will be quick and limited. >> gentlemen, what we waiting to see what happens next. this is a very urgent situation salma. thank you. everyone there's much more ahead on this very busy monday night also, north carolina is in crisis in

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vice president harris of falling short and their response to deadly disaster post on truth social, he claims the biden-harris administration and north carolina governor roy cooper are not helping people and republican areas and then during his visit in valdosta, georgia, he said biden wasn't being responsive to the georgia governor brian kemp taking a jab at harris in the process preserving a hard time getting the president on the phone. i guess they're not they're not being responsive. the federal government is not being responsive. the vice president she's out someplace campaigning looking for money where do i begin? >> because a lot wrong with what he's just said. like factually incorrect first president biden says that he has talked to governor kemp, known take my word for it. >> here's camp himself the president just called me yesterday afternoon. >> i missed him and called him right back and he just said,

hey, what do you need? >> second, the president and governor cooper directly address trump's claims that people in republican areas were being left behind somehow lying and the governor told him he was lying it makes no difference who you are if you need help, we are going to provide it and if. >> there's ever a time where we all need to come together and put politics aside. it is now and third, paris cut short a west coast campaign swing over helene's devastation. >> she was actually on a plane back to washington this morning and visited the headquarters to get briefed on recovery gray efforts i plan to be on the ground as soon as possible. >> but as soon as possible without disrupting any emergency response operations. but to all of those of you who are rightly feeling overwhelmed

by the destruction and the loss our nation is with you and president biden and i, and all of the folks behind me are with you so just so we're clear, these two states, trump is talking about georgia, north carolina. >> both are critical battleground states. i like you connect the dots trump's attacks over her laying are just the tip of the iceberg of recent false claims. and frankly, a stunning rhetoric even by his own standards. on saturday, he dialed up the personal attacks against harris to a whole 'nother level kamala joe biden became mentally impaired. kamala was born that way. >> i never you think about it only a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to happen to our country. >> anybody would know this? >> oh, sorry to my eyes roll, excuse me trump called his own words a quote dark speech. it

did not get any lighter the next day, by the way, he repeated the same insults at his rally in pennsylvania. then he said this about property crime at retail stores people walk in, they just take everything they want, they walk out of the store. what the hell is going on. she we have to let the police do their job and if they have to be extraordinarily wrong one rough hour and i mean real rough the word will get out and it will end immediately maybe the fourth amendment ends immediately. >> you know constitutional directed that you actually cannot have an unreasonable search or seizure and the body i want to bring in cnn political commentator, and senior spokesperson for hillary clinton's 2016 campaign. karen finney and senior adviser to the trump-vance presidential campaign, bryan lanza, briley. begin with you. i know, you know, i'm coming to you right now. >> i had to tell you because these are false claims i mean, there are false and who he's

spoken to, the ideas about federal relief being withheld to republican areas. i mean, he spoke to me, spoke to both cooper and camp. they said it's not true as well. why politicize this moment, particularly as there's so easily fact-checked i would say this president trump was president four years. >> he's had a natural disaster, so he knows for himself what should be done and what's getting done. he knows the pressures, he knows what presidential moments to look like. presidential moments or not. joe biden hanging on the beach or kamala harris hanging out with rich donors in san francisco now like presidential leadership is going in there and getting an assessment from the people. and what is he's heard from the people? the ground, whether it's georgia or whether he was in north carolina and more facts are going to come out. but what he heard his initially on the ground that people in north carolina fee and feeling left hide it from his experience, knowing what a fema response should be, he's hearing from people and it's raising concerns in these raising that to the attention sure. people want to sort of extrapolate and say he's making it up. but he did hear concerns from north carolina whether it's from local law enforcements, whether it's from people, supporters,

there are serious problems going on there in joe biden was on the beach and harris's at a fundraiser in san francisco. those are not the images you want in these moments of leadership and what you want is somebody on the ground and so on that point, the brand, because of his experience one would think having handled natural disasters overseeing with famous doing the last thing these local leaders need is to have to respond to questions like did trump say this? was this actually true? they need help more than they need to be fact-checking. it just seems like a very interesting. >> and by addressing, i mean, ridiculous notion that rather than support, you have to address a blatant lie. well, it's also desperate and pathetic because the other thing that trump knows is that in the first two having gone through this myself in the first 24, 48 hours, they also don't want you coming, right? i mean, they were talking about this today. the president biden is going to take why is that the explain why that's why you often hear them say it's, it's not a burden to have become well, because we have to remember a presidential visit of vice presidential visit

means resources that could be otherwise out looking for people who might be, there are people found today who have been hiding out from the storm or stuck in their homes that means you're taking away first responders and resources. >> police officers, emts, all of that to then protect the president and for someone particularly like donald trump, who now has, i think probably a higher threat level that they're protecting in terms of the resources. and he knows is from when he was president don't want anything distracting people from the jump. people don't have electricity, they don't have water. my cousins too old or stines, he couldn't talk to them for 24 hours and because they were in asheville and it wasn't because they were left behind or because somebody wasn't doing their job. it was because the roads were washed out. there's no electricity they couldn't there wasn't even a place to get resources and they're finally getting resources. they old on-brand.

you get resources in today but what's so disturbing about it is the governor cooper's right. this should be a moment where we come together as americans and say, hey, what can i do to her? what do you need and i would just remind us down trump didn't handle a disaster. it was called the pandemic. global pandemic. and because of his actions, millions of people died flat, flat out. and who came in and cleaned up the mess. joe biden, kamala harris. so if we're gonna you know, sort of compare presidential leadership, they got shots in arms, money in people's pockets, got us out of our homes and back. donald trump was telling us to put bleach in her arms trains giggling why? >> i mean, no more people said, no one's save more lives during this pandemic worldwide than donald trump. and the acts perez laughing i got listen, it was, it was donald trump's administration that put to the forefront the project, the project about the vaccine told me, note, so to

come a harris, she she he wouldn't say she wanted to take it. so if you want to offer that criticism the gravy people that put absolutely i've got reservations about taking it. yeah. that's a very dangerous moment if you're saying donald trump was being dangerous, at least acknowledged that no one behind with risk with respect to the vaccine and vaccines save the world. and that was donald trump's administration. and i was in leadership put it the money and funding, the backstop for these farmers, who knows who go forward and do these things. the pharmaceutical companies have come forward and said, we would have never done it, had not been the federal government stepped i want to move forward for a second on this because i know this is this is maybe part of what we'll hear tomorrow in the debate about the idea of who from better. >> but let's talk about the rhetoric that's also been here. >> flight. we're hearing more and more and the personal attacks against harris are continuing. and frankly, i'm a little taken aback, even in a world where i'm not often taken a back anymore with all that we've heard. but i mean, the idea of trump calling her mentally impaired. there is the the moral issue. there's the

illogically political issue as well. brian, why go that route? how does that serve i don't understand why that would make you say as a voter, he thinks as a voter that's the one i want to vote for. the one who gets that rock. >> i would say voters aren't going to make the decision on the insults because if they're going to be doing that, they're going to be voting for donald trump because he's the most insulted presidential candidate and president of all time. by the harris, by the democrats, by the media. so if we're going to play the insult games and where's the media is going to vote and what are the voters going to focus on? they'd probably be giving trump the advantage, but voters aren't you had congressman emmer, who was asked this question yesterday about what he thought about that he's actually playing walz and may debate prep. >> he talked about not wanting this is not helpful, certainly has been sold, so sorry, graham the ones being in tool to i'm going to i'm going to be be held the specifically be insulted. he's he's been he just recently communist-era kamala harris said, he's not mentally competent to be making these plans. he has been insulted for years. so every once in a while he decides to pop back and punch people back. in the face and say you're

going to insult me. here's going to be your response, and that's what happens. sure. politicians can criticize it, but i don't see, i don't see these other politicians been insulted to the avenue that president trump's but somehow by trump that we're talking about grant one day out of the blue the best remember i had this trump given not graham's phone number. >> i'm sure he doesn't give it with me, but the cell never won remember for me, but i would also say, again, it's desperate and it's unnecessary. donald trump though, is incapable. he's proven this over and over and over again. he is incapable of scanning up even with a teleprompter and giving a speech, walking you through the details of kherson. i'm going to curb inflation. here's what the real impact of the tariffs would be. here's how i'm going to handle it. he's incapable. all he has is he gets on these rifts where he starts attack, attack, attack that's like his default. and i will say it does matter to voters. it's part of why women voters are saying no more. i don't want that for my leader. again, if we think about where we were, what we were just talking about in a

moment like this, in a crisis moment, you don't want to leader who is out there, will each willing user well, as you know, bryan, you're being very disingenuous because you also know that the president can be anywhere and be able to handle the crisis. >> want to see a your friend who's there. they want to see leadership and all they saw was joe biden on the beach or they didn't care? they absolutely care. they wanted to know what you're telling me, how my family voters absolute what can you tell me how my the people in north carolina get to say how they and what did they see at that particular moment there looking for leadership in the south? joe biden on the beach and harrison to funders, you know, that there's the point that is a great time and that's what you guys say when donald trump was president. i'm sure of it. my preview. >> of the debate tomorrow is a leader versus a liar, because we're going to see walz. we're going to see vance lie. he admitted to dana bash, right? here on this, said that he was lying about springfield, ohio. so let's carry record. so where do you want to go want to go? >> you asked by next segment

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be must-see tv. >> i want to bring in though the last person and frankly, the only democrat pratt debate j.d. >> vance former democratic congressman tim ryan. good to see you. congressman. i mean, you and i have talked about this before, thinking about this debate, you have debated him twice. how do you see this whole thing going down? >> well i think it's going to be a really interesting dynamic. >> i think you have kind of the happy warrior vibe. golan was the harris-walz campaign in which tim walz is a big part of that and then you have the insults that kind of grumpy young guy who's kind of giving voice to the grumpy old guy and i think that's going to be the main dynamic there, but the jd vance's ivy league educated you know, he's a talented guy in his own way and so he should have surely advantage going into the debate. so we'll just have to see how it plays out. >> well, he's he's had the gauntlet when he was running

recently, rightly taken office, new past year or so, and he had to have what almost a dozen different debates. so certainly he is probably more experienced lately with these debating. i mean, the two of them i've exchanged and pretty ugly personal tax. vance on waltz's misstatements on his military walz on how weird vance's is there a risk though that if the two are trading barbs more than they are trading policy distinctions. and a clear and maybe even a specific way that voters will be turned no off it's a big risk and you're in the lights are on the cameras on, you're in the heat of the argument that debate. it's easy to go down that road. but the winter usually is the person who can stay focused, like a laser beam on the american people. what are we? what policies are we trying? you have to get into the details. the democrats could be famous for reading off a ten point plan till people's eyes

glaze over, keep it on the values, keep it on the aspirations of the american people and always contrast that with what we just heard from donald trump. but we really want to hear four more years? so this guy? >> and he's older and not in great health and it could be j.d. >> vance, who in many ways is even worse, or do we want to try to move on into an america that's a little more hopeful, a little more optimistic. so always finding those touchstones throughout the course of the debate to put that contrast out there because the exhaust astrid majority will not want four more years of this. >> and he needs to point that out as many times as he can tomorrow night. look, i don't think either walz or vance could be underestimated, shouldn't be underestimated. you've got, you know, walz who somebody a governor of a state certainly has not backed down at least in front of the microphone and that would lead on this campaign. you have vance, who has been able to be a good pivot or and quick on his speed at debates. remember there was that famous debate when you had two people who

were almost chest to chest fighting and he was able to reclaim the moment they're reporting that walz is nervous though, and doesn't want to let harris down understandable trump's campaign is stressing that walz is a wily political veteran, although trump just use the word to describe him very different one. what do you make of the campaign's setting these expectations? >> well, i think that that's always a part of it. and if you're not a little bit nervous going into something like this, then you shouldn't be doing it because you don't care. i mean, this is a very high-stakes thing. >> but i think the reality really is, is that is at jd needs to win this you know, he's got to look really good and i'm sure he's going to be very, very nervous because he's got you know, his father figure donald trump, who he is aiming to please 1,000% in the last few years, he's got to please him tomorrow night.

>> and i think it's interesting to them walz is going to have the audience of the american people. he's going to try to persuade independent voters. she's going to try to persuade moderate republican voters to come their way. >> j.d. vance has an audience of one he needs he needs one person to be happy after that debate. tomorrow night, and that's donald trump. and so he's going to try to it i think give those insults, make impressed trump by being very aggressive and that can come off pretty poorly if people are wanting to move on from an exhausted politics. so he's got to be very, very careful, but i do think it's interesting he has one person and the country of almost 340 million that he asked the police tomorrow night. >> well, he's gotten more than one topic. he has to cover and it's it can't just be the policy there has been a number of comments, advanced himself has made, whether it's been the childless cat ladies, whether it's been conversations, what was going on in springfield or i should be more accurate great way is not going on in springfield. the eating cats and dogs and the absurd

allegations and accusations if you're tim if you're governor walz, you are you advising him you think to bring up any of those moments? >> yeah. i think you have to. i mean, i think they'll come up. i mean, i don't know how you could do this debate in the you know, the dogs and cats in springfield doesn't come up because it was such a bold lie that the trash this town hurt their economic development prospects, hurt the people in the town the bomb threats to kids in schools and universities and the city hall so it goes to character and i think that's going to be the key for what tim walz has to, has to really articulate tomorrow is that it's got to come down to character like yeah you lie i'd about your constituents. >> they were in his state. he's elected to represent springfield, ohio and most powerful deliberative body in

the world. and that's what he does do them, right? >> he, he's supposed to represent women and he's saying, well, if you're in a violent marriage as a woman, you should stay in that marriage or you shouldn't have access to the health care if you have a complicated pregnancy, like all of these things add up the fake opiate charity that he started to try to launch his political career, didn't put one nickel towards opiates or anyone having an overdose, you spent money on polling and a political advisor. >> so yeah, those are issues, but they speak to the character of that trump and vance will step over anyone's body. they need to, in order to hold power and they try to scare people world war iii is going to happen. the economy is going to collapse. >> all of these bad things. >> you hear how they talk okay, about people. there we're competitors, where were still americans were not enemies here and trump talks about them like we're enemies. >> and so he's got a point that out these are character issues, these aren't policy issues. you stay on those. and

i think point that out, that j.d. vance could very well be president of the united states because the guy ahead coleman's is older and not in great health. i think people going to look closely this policies and i think be rightfully worried that what kind of leader he would be. >> well, we'll see how voters respond tomorrow night, just coming up very quick. tim ryan, thank you so much. >> thank you search and rescue efforts ongoing in north carolina three days after helene roll through with fears of the death, roll is actually rising tonight, we'll take you to one of the hardest hit areas, the town of chimney rock nearly wiped off the map. >> the city's mayor and owner of this now destroyed business is with me next generalized myasthenia gravis picture, what life could look like with gart high true low a subcutaneous injection that takes about 30 to 90 seconds for one thing could it mean

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officials warn that number could climb much higher in the coming days with many people who are sadly still missing, at least 2 million without power. >> this is four days after hurricane helene, even made landfall, north carolina is one of the hardest hit areas were just 56 people who have died alone in that state it's any council members surveying debris described the scene as post-apocalyptic. that's near lake lure and chimney rock. and here's what downtown asheville looks like right now before the storm of vibrant downtown area. it's now entirely underwater in chimney rock is small tour first half of the population, just over 100 people the town is now in disarray. the bubble o'leary general store ruined. bhatt general will store is owned by the mayor of chimney rock and mayor at peter o'leary joins me. now may are larry. thank you so much for being here this evening. it is just

so difficult to see these images. we know your town is in very rough shape can you give us your assessment how much damage are we talking about we've talked about a tremendous amount of damage. >> i mean, it's literally people have talked about the town being just wiped away and washed away and while not literally true, it's just devastating. i mean, the doubt the business district, which is very small and serves all the visitors that come through is virtually 100%. either destroyed or damaged to the point where the buildings may need to be torn down or totally redone. so devastating total, just total devastation really unbelievable to think about what this has done to the community. and of course, i'm thinking about and only the livelihoods, but the people who were there, are there people who are still missing in your community?

>> i, am not aware of anybody that's missing. we do have their there are some people that we're not quite sure if they made it to a shelter or how to account for them. >> so you know, we're still trying to just make sure we connect everybody with their families, at least in some form or fashion. >> a lot of people are looking for loved ones but it's you know, it's, it's we just taken every day at a time how challenging has it been for people to even make those connections to reach their loved ones, to figure out where they are in the in-between it's very challenging. >> we have very bad or really nonexistent cell service in. chimney rock. also, the ashlyn hendersonville. said the whole area here that's been hit hard is very spotty cell phone service i have i'm actually staying maybe ten or 15 miles

outside of town and part of the reason is so in the evening and the morning, we can communicate with people because once i go back down into the village, it's no communication other than fire and emergency radios. >> wow, i'm just thinking about how people must be trying to communicate and the frustration and the fear. i mean, talking about, we're looking at some of the areas and the devastation and what looks to be a leg that's now just covered with debris. you own the general story that out in town? >> well, you rebuild have even gotten to think about that you know, it's i've talked to a lot of people and it's still just so so fresh for everybody and of course, we want to rebuild all of us want to rebuild. but we have monumental challenges in front of us. and like i said, the, business district in it is 100% destroyed when you talk about that one area, we do have houses up on the side of the gorge that are not haven't been damaged, but anything close to

the river was destroyed in some areas, the rivers four to five times what the width that it used to be and what do you have to remember? like you said about lake lure? everything that was wiped off the riverbanks is now in lake lure so it's it's just it's terrible. i hear war zone a lot. i hate. i don't want to use that word because that's you know, just not appropriate in some ways, but total devastation is very appropriate to say because it's gone a lot of it's going yes. >> it looks totally unrecognizable on the idea that image going to stick in my mind that figure of four to five times wider as a body of water that just tells you the scope of what has happened. the president, president biden is coming to north carolina on wednesday. >> what would you tell president biden? >> chimney rock needs most right now, mayor need right now. most is

financial assistance going forward chimney rock, like i said, that you know, there is a strong spirit to rebuild the town, rebuild the area. chimney rock is a historic iconic landmark for western north carolina it's you know, the history of the village. it's got to reach rich history with a lot of folks that have visited here for, you know, over 100 years it's something that we need to preserve, protect, and make available to people. so it's going to be the long road because this, this devastation is, is tremendous. and there's no shortcuts to rebuild. so we need financial commitment to rebuild this and to continue to make it available to people may or peter o'leary. thank you so much for joining us and i'm just so sorry to see the extensive devastation in your community. we certainly hope that you can come back stronger

thank you. >> i appreciate it and appreciate all the prayers and support that people have given us and we do have a gofundme page on the chimney rock. facebook's that we would love we appreciate any and all support and prayers in particular mayor peter larry. thank you so much you're welcome up. next we remember to athletes who achieved legendary status in their sport. basketball's finger wagging big man dikembe mutombo, and baseballs controversial hit king, pete rose next know, khan is 22-years-old and we've been together most of my life not often. do you have a childhood dog that that leaves this long, so i think it's really unique and special that we've experienced so many, so many things in life together knowing that he's getting good nutrition and that he has energy is a huge relief for me and my dad took a little been

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band. >> rose was 83 and then there's dikembe mutombo, the basketball hall of famer w was known for his finger wag, his big smile, and his philanthropy. mutombo lead the nba and blocked shots for five seasons in a row off the court. he was the nba's first global ambassador. he performed a professional league in africa. he paid for congo's women's basketball team to go to the 1996 olympics. he raised money to build a hospital in congo. he funded a tuition free school near where his parents grew up. all with a single goal in mind the living condition of the people enough no wonder, chapter >> but i'm rich to so many people and he was he died after battling a brain tumor