>> i'm just saying i'll have to say is this we have to trust the public to be able to know what they saw in front of them that us telling them what they saw. we don't have to tell them whether there was a good or bad answer. they can figure it out. no, that do was lying tool. they can figure it out for the most part, but we steer the caucus the conference that don't let it go organically is not about you. it's about tell him tell him you think the same thing about sports games that's what we that's telling me. >> you want to act like we supposed to treat this like a sport. does that seem like we don't need anymore? >> sports commentator as we can see, the score for ourselves. hey guys thank you for joining the show thank you all so you this time tomorrow, one, abby phillip is stated the race. thank you. newsnight. >> what happens when you have so many minutes? >> let me just say let me just say what people don't need is spin from people who are paid race. laura coates is on right

now evidence in jack smith's january 6 case against donald trump. >> what he revealed and what it could mean for donald trump in court. of course, at the ballot box, plus an attorney who says he represents dozens of new diddy accusers. he claims there's an accomplice list that will shock the public tonight. on laura coates live while special counsel jack smith is laying it all out there his plan for prosecuting donald trump in the 2020 election conspiracy case revealed in a newly unsealed 165 page court filing light reading for what, a thursday, wednesday night. >> what is it in it? we get never before seen evidence. we get his argument for why trump is not immune from prosecution. we get a roadmap for how smith plans to present this case at a

potential trial notice plan and potential it essentially amounts to his opening statement, but it's all on paper, of course. he drops a familiar name and page after page, mike pence allowed the new evidence related to the former vice president, the man who had to be escorted to a secure location on january 6, that after a mob stormed the capitol and called for his hanging, the filing explains how moments after what you're seeing happened happened in aid rush to trump to tell him about the mob's threats against pence or trump looked at the aid and apparently said only so what remember this tweet on january 6, the one from trump's account accusing pens of lacking courage for not tipping the election will smith argues he can prove trump was by himself and using his own phone when it went out how? >> by calling as a witness, the only other trump adviser who

had access to his account is also this new detail. >> smith said some assistant who heard trump tell family members on marine one no less after the election, quote, it doesn't matter if you won or lost the election, you still have to fight like hill. now, a big chunk this filing is jack smith's effort to address the issue that's threatened to sink his entire case remember, the supreme court, and they're ruling in july when the granite trump broad immunity for official acts i know that was like 1,000 years ago at this point in time. but smith now here is arguing that trump acted on his own private capacity as a candidate, not in his official role as president smith does that by claiming trump used private actors and his own campaign infrastructure to overturn the election. he also gets crafty with how he describes one mike pence, who is e evidenced smith definitely wants introduce at a trial throughout the entire filing

trump and pence are described as running mates he's trying to show their conversations were related to the campaign. hence, running mates and not official acts he also argues that pence's role during the january 6 certification was legislative. it wasn't part of his duties in e executive branch will the supreme court buy it? i mean, we'll see if it ends up back there. i mean, take out the word if when it ends up back there the chances case goes to trial before the election, though. zilch zero. none. in a trump gets elected to educated guess as it goes away that doesn't mean this filing won't have bigger implications for the election it's a final chance for voters to hear some of the evidence that has been alleged by jack smith before election day. it's also a chance for trump to claim the deck is stacked against them. he's already doing that tonight, by the way.

>> he's a deranged call them deranged jack smith and he works for kamala and he works for joe. this was a weaponization of government and that's why was released 30 days before the election well, 34, but point taken. >> joining me now, senior legal affairs reporter for politico, josh gerstein, former federal prosecutor, at least adamson, and cnn legal commentator and former trump attorney tim parlatore, glad to have all of you here today, who expected this? come maybe not anyone, but certainly jack smith did. we talked with you, josh because you call this filing a blueprint for special counsel, jack smith and a jury presentation. if that would happen one day, what do you think is his goal in doing this? knowing the audience is not really a jury in this case. it's the judge. what is he trying to do? >> well, he's trying to give her as much of the evidence as he can because so far what she's really had is only the indictment which was just sort a bare-bones outline of its

case. and this really fills in a lot of the details that a lot of the juicy nuggets that you just relayed, our him laying out the facts. there's one in there where they talk about a trump camp campaign aide talking to somebody down in an arena where they were counting votes on election night and telling them to start a riot. now that allegation in sort of vague terms was in the indictment, but now we have a direct quote to back it up. so it's that kind of particularity. but i do think that the overall just this argument is not as much to lay out all of his evidence, but to try to meet this standard, you're talking about that the supreme court has laid out for his case, which i think in some respects is a very difficult standard to suggest that none of this stuff that he wants to present as part of the case is covered by presidential immunity. nabil battle, maybe not in front of judge chutkan, but certainly in front of the supreme court. if it goes back there, as you said, at least to that point, i mean the parameters here, the supreme

court essentially said, if it's an official act, if it's while you were the president, not just while you were the president, but you were acting in a presidential fashion then it's immune, but you're acting as a private citizen totally different. in other words, if you are an official and office seeker versus office holder, there's a big distinction here. they tried to lay out in great detail some conversations that demonstrate, i think in some way, where to try and do intent, what do you think jack smith can do to try to demonstrate to the judge this is not a private act or we're not an official. what a private one, wilmore, i think jack smith has done that in this motion and that is as you said, lay out what the former president's intent was during these conversations and jack smith does this in meticulous detail the filings starts with a very methodical presentation of the former president's efforts in each state to have the election results overturned and it's fleshed out a lot of

these gaps. he's had conversations, he had direct conversations with these officials asking them to find more votes we knew about that before, but now we know of additional conversations. and so he is acting as a candidate. there is only one benefit to him in doing that and that is for him to remain in power and also, jack smith makes a very important point and each one of those paragraphs he said trump was on notice he was on notice that there was no fraud, and that's important because the foreign president has argued that he was just protecting the integrity of the election. and now jack smith said, no, how would you be protecting the integrity that would be an official duty know, you know, there was no fraud. you were acting in your personal capacity as a candidate, wanting to stay in office? tim, of course, he would say no, the integrity of election was me overseeing the election period. it wasn't me as a candidate, was me as the president united states, but to at least his point, i mean, the notice, they

have in this document in this pleading, they include attorney general bill barr, who is basically saying what he what he saw and fox news. so i him saying that there was widespread fraud and came to say no, there actually was not looked into the matter and beyond trying to show there is evidenced that he was on notice that was not actually going to happen did not happen. it was not happening. how persuasive would that be to this judge? not to a jury, but to this judge? >> well, i mean, i'm sure that this judge it'll be very persuasive, but you have to remember, this is just the prosecutor's brief right? and it is cherry-picked of what he thinks is going to be the most favorable. obviously, it's omitting anything that would be favorable to the defense, and there is going to be a response and as i heard, they just asked for an extension of the response, so we're not going to see that risk. >> is it past the election so funny how that happened and the reality is when you get 166 page filing, you need more than two weeks to respond to it.

>> and so once you have the full story, maybe the judge looks at it a little bit differently. i do think that he's laid out a good case here on presidential versus candidate. and that was one of the things that when i was on the case, we were always really trying to draw the distinction of what is done as a candidate was done as a president because you want a president, if they do believe that there's fraud to investigated to find out whether there's fraud to make sure that the election is accurate. but that is something that's done through doj through law enforcement. >> well, i want you both to come at all, but there is this moment where i think i'll read it to you, where smith says, quote, it's hard to imagine stronger evidence that conduct is private. then when the president excludes his white house counsel and only wishes to have his private counsel present. this is when he's talking to pence and pressuring him not to certify the election. i mean, the white house counsel's role is not to be private counsel wants to

think about the actual presidency. the office itself, not only for this this president, but for the posterity. the fact that he wanted his private counsel and not white house counsel. that's pretty telling yeah. >> but what was the reason for that? it may well have been because he was on the outs with his white house counsel that they had clashed over a bunch of different issues and what i see as i go through this motion is that trump was getting advice and information from different sets of people. there were a lot of people telling him there were no real credible reports of fraud and there were a handful of people who were telling him there might be fraud or they were hearing some evidence and the prosecution here says, well, we're going to declare all those people are coconspirators. rudy giuliani honey coconspirator. so here's law firm was the office of yes-men llp, right? that's the one that was for some of them. >> right so that's one of the dilemmas here. it's sort of like if you're sick, you just keep going to doctors so you find one who tells you you're not sick. i mean, it seems like that's what trump was doing, but i think that that's going to be if this does eventually

go to trial the thrust of his defense that he had credible people, the former mayor of new york city and us attorney for the southern district of new york, giving him advice, somebody who was an esteemed constitutional law professor john eastman, giving him advice, sidney powell, maybe that one's a little tougher to swallow given some things that are in here where he calls her unhinged in some things even worse than so, maybe he had his doubts about her. so it's a question of are you entitled to believe anybody you want because you want to preserve some sort of a delusion that you have that you actually won the response. >> my response is there was no evidence. i mean, i hear those arguments, but i think the problem is that those people who were for telling him what he wanted to hear could not produce any evidence to substantiate their claims. and if they could even a tiny amount, then i think that would have led some credibility into what they were saying, but they were theories and the brief shows that at some point that was even conceded. i think it was from who i believe too the

rudy giuliani says, we don't have the evidence, we just have theories. theories is not enough. and the folks who were telling him there was no fraud, those were fellow republicans. they would have gladly change those results if they could any said show us something, show us something. there was nothing well, tim, you've been his counsel and the idea of him not just forum shopping in the sense of the judge, but lawyer shopping to figure out, i need you to tell me what i want to hear. >> how persuasive again, these are allegations in a brief that's intended to go to a judge on the immunity issue and we'll go back the supreme court eventually, how persuasive is the argument that look, i was just getting different advice from different people. i wasn't trying to break the law. i was just hear from people in a context of a criminal trial that's a great defense because ultimately you have to prove to the jury the government has to prove to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that he absolutely knew that there was no fraud. >> and if he can show, hey, i was getting advice from all these different people. some say this, some say that it is

it is something that's a very good trial defense to say just because the prosecutor says, you should have believed this person, not that person doesn't mean that beyond a reasonable doubt. this is the only person that's right. and then ended. he did believe that person. >> so i think it is in the context of a criminal trial it is a good defense. well, we'll see we've heard both arguments are going to likely hear at a trial, but right now, obviously we're in the stages of trying to demonstrate to this judge whether the supreme court's ruling on immunity means this case goes away, or they can delineate between official and private conduct. thank you so much, everyone. i want to bring in someone who served on the january 6 committee, cnn's senior political commentator and former republican congressman adam kinzinger. he has endorsed kamala harris for president. congressman. thank you for joining us. we learned from this filing some significant things, other things we knew before, but now we've laid out and where did detail? here we know that the filing from the fbi has mapped out. it meant that how trump

used his phone on january 6, was that surprising to you yeah i mean that was a huge surprise. >> there's a lot of information obviously that we weren't able to attain on the committee. we were able to tell a broader story back with a lot of evidence, but we were time limited. we knew that, you know, basically the end of our committee was coming, particularly when the republicans took control the house. >> and we knew we were passing the ball on to whoever basically decided to continue this investigation and the doj did, but the fact that donald, i guess i'm not surprised, but it is surprising that he would be using his private phone that jack smith evidently has this able to, in essence track the keystrokes of this. >> and then to find out conversations like the president saying, i don't i don't care what happens to mike pence. we kind of knew that one on the committee, but then saying, well, let them riot or something along that line. i mean, look, regardless of what the legal cases here and listening to your prior panel, remind me if i'm ever

going to commit a crime to find somebody that tells me it's okay because that can be my legal defense. but regardless of what ends up happening in the court, this is something the american people have got to digest because listen, if donald trump wins, he's made it clear. he's going to drop this case. and so if you think this is where the of a president of the united states, fine. that's decision you get to make. you think president shouldn't be above the law, then this is a very essential thing to read what congressman smith describe. >> increasingly desperate plan by trump as coconspirators, this as alleged in the brief, of course, to overthrow the election, how they tried to manipulate the vice president in his legislative capacity. of course. >> what do you say? a to those who are still defending those actions in particular, and by the way, as recently as last night, we heard the vp debate senator jd vance, his running mate, giving what, what governor walz described as a non-answer with respect to who won the election yeah.

>> i mean, of course it was a non-answer. he can't say that donald trump lost because donald trump will be really upset about that, even though i know jd vance and his heart knows that he lost so yeah. i mean, this is this is a huge deal and for those that are still going to look at voting for donald trump, i don't know if there there's much more. i can say to convince them. >> but i guess let's just role-play for a second and say, imagine this as a democrat doing exactly this. >> would you be okay with that? would you think this is within the purview of a president of united states. and if the answer is no, then you probably need to hold to the standards. now that you believe are important. the increasing desperation of donald trump was very evident. we ramble to present this on the committee just think about his meeting with the doj officials where he said, look, i'm not asking you to do anything really illegal. i just want you to say the election is corrupt. that's it. yeah put some bomb on your conscious. >> you're just going to say it's corrupt. and then let me, and the republican congressmen

do the rest. let me exploit the doubt. let the republican congressman convinced people that there's fraud. you don't need to find fraud. just let me do it, but i need your stamp of approval and there's going to be a lot of stuff like that under a second trump administration and if it would come to fruition i mean, the innuendo being in the air. interestingly enough, and perhaps ironically, is exactly what the trump camp is complaining about that being out in the universe before the war, the election puts in uno athlete. they can't guard and defend against, but i wonder how the electorate will see if they've got about 34 days to decide what you've just asked them to do. adam kinzinger. thank you so much you bet. we've got much more on how jack smith's new evidence could impact the presidential race ahead. plus melania trump suddenly entering the political campaign with new remarks that directly challenge her husband's views an abortion. and later, an attorney makes the claim that a forthcoming set of lawsuits against diddy will expose, quote, many

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election. i would just say that. did he lose the 2020 election tim i'm focused on the future. that is a nonanswer america i think you've got a really clear choice of who's gonna honor that democracy and who's going to honored on trump special counsel jack smith's legal brief was unsealed just hours after trump's running mate jd vance refused to exit. >> trump lost in 2020 and you pretty much you this ad was going to right itself at that point, right? harris campaign then released that ad. they brought january 6 back into the spotlight. we just 33 days now until the election, joining me now to discuss cnn contributor and new york times journalist lulu garcia-navarro, former trump 2020 director communications marc lotter, and former obama white house senior director and co-host of the podcast trail blaze near at hok. glad to have all of you guys here. mark. listen, we knew that ad was coming, but you had to know was coming. he's also trump is fuming

calling that this particular release of this filing election interference. how worried should the campaign be about the details that are contained, their allegations, but they're out there now? >> no, i'm not worried at all. every time every time the democrats have resided resorted to lawfare, it is backfired. donald trump has gone up in the polls, up in fundraising. this is a night i was listening to the previous panel well, great. this is not about the court of law. they can try him in a court of law before the election. that is the department of justice trying to prosecute and convict him in the court of public opinion, they're also answering a judge's order, though, to actually brief the issue and it's her choice to release it. but it is out there, lulu. >> it is out there. and i respectfully it's agree this is the last opportunity for people to really consider what it will mean for donald trump to be re-elected. and it does matter the sacrifice the constitution and the constitutional right to be innocent until proven guilty. >> we're going to go up. paula reid was on earlier today on jake tapper saying this is an

unprecedented move. it's because the department of justice and liberals half to get this out before the election, but there's also the comey memo, right? that was also unprecedented. everyone loves to talk about october surprises and how they may or may not legally impact and political impact people. the reality is, we're hoping waiting a really long time to understand the details of what jack smith has put together. and that's separate from the entire january very sixth investigation that we saw. congress had their own access to information in i'll say in an ideal circumstance, this actually trial would already have happened. people would be able to consider the full scope of what is being accused, whether it's been resolved, and all of that as part of this election. and this is this is justice working slowly i will say, you know, this has not changed a presumption of innocence. it's a brief about the presumption of immunity, which is what the judge is supreme court. and frankly, trump's camp has asked for, but i want you to play what an undecided voter had to say after the vice presidential debate on this issue of well, january 6 and beyond, listen

well, i'm going to be voting for kamala harris you know, one of the stark sort of aspects of that debate that really stuck with me was when they were talking about january 6 and how mike pence certified the election and they were wondering if jd vance would certify the election should trump lose and, you know jd vance didn't really give us a definitive answer and i am disappointed in that fact that was enough to at least maybe change his mind. i wonder if he's alone in thinking that that was now paramount this is now back in the public debate. >> a few scant weeks in front of the social people already voting. and it does matter to a certain segment of the population. and it should matter to a certain segment of the population because ultimately the person who is going to be in that seat in this election and being president of the united states is someone who is going to uphold the constitution has to uphold the rule of law. and we all, i think no, at this point, what happened on january 6 and

this is being actually put out there now for the people to understand and to and to digest and to make their decision my question then is how about january 6, 2025? >> because congressman jamie raskin very good question already said, if donald trump wins, he will file articles to have him removed from office because he's going you don't want it to donald trump himself but there's a big difference between everyone is doing this and what donald trump did on january 6 thousand 2000 16,005 scenario, there's always an objection. >> like almost a ritual object objection to certifying the election. if you're in the opposing party happens every time that's very different than actually creating a movement to spiring gop to stop that certification mapping. and congress then ended up doing the right thing, which is passing legislation that making sure it doesn't have to happen in body and person. it can be a pro forma just a ratification or certainly neither donald

trump nor jd vance have said that they are willing to actually look and say that if there is to have a peaceful transfer of power, they have not been able to articulate that. they have not been able at any juncture to say yes, if this election transpires, i will absolutely respect the results of the vote. >> and here's what other republicans are also telling us when they come on television and other public conversations that in their determination, it has to be a free and fair and then they will see to it, right? it's not, it's no longer this idea that there's an independent view we'll of how elections it is a partisan view and what that an undecided voter was essentially saying is, i really want people in power who acknowledge reality, right? the reality is president biden's been sitting in the white house donald trump lost that electron that that should not be something that we are still debating at this point. well, here we are. i'll save you from having a wimbledon neck for a second. and as you swivel from both of these very astute women there was a moment

where we all know it's not just the economy stupid or even january 6 reproductive rights, very much on the ballot and very much what democrats want to lead with any time there's a conversation in the debate and otherwise, there was essentially reporting that happened today from the guardian actually the former first lady melania trump details her support of abortion rights in her new memoir, and she writes, i'm quoting here, restricting a woman's right to choose whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over her own body. i have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life. now she's been absent from the campaign. marc largely, but now she's revealing this it does conflict with the perception of what the trump campaign has articulated. what does this do to the campaign well, i think the president has been very clear. >> he thinks this should be decided by the state legislatures and the people in those states will decide where they, where they fall. >> further than that though. but he he has said that he

thought that florida and some other states went too far with their six-week ban. >> he believes the seventh, eighth, ninth month abortions in california, otherwise, allowing babies to die after they survived a botched abortion in minnesota is too far. and so there's gotta be some sort of middle ground mrs. trump is woman of considerable thought and intelligence and she's i think it has the same right to speak her mind and let people know where she stands. donald trump has done the same for him difference, but second, on era. >> there was a point just to clarify in the debate last night when vance raised that same point about minnesota laws allowing for a doctor to turn a blind eye towards a child that my survived a botched abortion. he unequivocally said that was not regional untrue. >> eight babies died and then he changed the reporting procedures. so the hospitals didn't have to report it anymore to the state. >> okay. he unequivocally said that was not the case. i'm not the governor. i won't speak for him era what doesn't say? >> i think there's a challenge when you talk about out how abortion is playing out for

women as opposed to politicians, mostly majority male and in states for president trump, it has changed over time and i broader perception is that there was no sincerely held belief about the value of women and doctors be able to determine women's reproductive health care as opposed to millennia potentially trying to ease the minds of some swing voters in the white women suffer what i think is going on here. i mean, there's no world in which this book comes out right before the election. and donald trump didn't know what was in it. i believe that melania is being used in this it might be her sincerely held belief. i don't know what's in her heart, but certainly that this book is being released now, and that is political. and i think it helps trump, it doesn't hurt him even though her position is different than his bath because i think women might be able to look at this and say, well, look, his wife says that she has this firmly held how dogmatic can donald and also

his wife is not the one who's making policy, right? that's even the argument of leaving it to the states ignores this idea of fundamental rights. and what is considered privacy, which was originally at the heart of roe v. wade, and that's that idea of privacy and bringing bring that bag is what i think many women, majority of the electorate is still unaffiliated. so it's not just democratic women. there's women coming out of an entirely different generation who took for granted the rights that were granted to their mothers and their forbearers before them, mark strategic or sincere for melania trump i would never question the sincerity about anything mrs. trump says she's very deliberate in her remarks. she's very cautious in when she weighs into these kinds of debates. and so if she put it down in a book, i would take that to be what her sincerely held belief is, where the trump campaign have known about in advance you know, i'm not sure how much they would have coordinated with her and her office on this i'm sure they did know, but then you even heard jd vance last night saying we have to as a party, have to earn the trust of the

american women who are, who have strong beliefs on this issue. and so i think obviously both of these things i think can be true at the same time. >> it wasn't that they actually as see he conceded the point. they don't have the trust, but also it wouldn't be the first time that melania trump those comments at the end of an election cycle would have been very persuasive. remember, there was just locker room talk comment that she came in and talked about and change a lot of perception. so i wonder if lightening has struck twice thank you, everyone. >> tonight, a new barrage of allegations against diddy this time coming from more than 100 accusers who are set to file new sexual assault lawsuits. and the attorney representing them says the names of diddy's accomplices will quote, shock people that attorney tony buzbee joins me next caught for entire career sj one is coming out episodes says to the world, it's okay to be gay. i don't think i realized

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cash he just told him the lead with jake tapper tomorrow it for cnn shocking allegations against music mogul sean "diddy" combs 120 accuser stand ready to sue them, alleging he drugged and sexually abuse them against their will now, the accuser is include women and men. >> some say they weren't minors, possibly when it happened. it's important to note these allegations and in this lawsuit, it's yet to be filed the attorney representing 120 people says it will be filed within 30 days. in the statement, a lawyer for diddy said, quote mr. combs it was emphatically and categorically denies as false and defamatory any claim that he sexually abused anyone, including minors. it looks forward to proving his innocence and vindicating himself in court.

if and when claims are filed and served, where the truth will be established based on evidence it's not speculation that diddy is already facing at least 12 civil lawsuits. he hasn't responded to all of them. he's denied many of the allegations in them, and he settled one from ex girlfriend, cassie ventura. that suit seemed to break the floodgates of legal peril for diddy and only is he facing a growing number? we're a civil claims. he's facing three federal charges of sex trafficking and racketeering he's pleaded not guilty and is currently in jail awaiting trial. will joining me now, tony buzbee, a lawyer representing the 120 accusers who apparently intend to sue diddy, tony. welcome. i want to begin with a very basic question. i think the audience is wondering what haven't you filed this suit and when will the public hadn't period actually see the charges that you are alleging against him? >> i would expect that we will

we will originally we were going to file literally within the week when we announced that we represent about 50 plaintiffs that we're gonna file suit and we're going to inform the public about those suits. we received about 3,000 calls and about ten days which as you can imagine, created incredible administrative tasks to try to, through those and determine which of those were additional basis that would be filed you should know that of the 120 cases that will file, there'll be filed individually each of them, of course, sean combs will be a defendant, but there will be other defendants in each case as some of these will be filed in new york, some will be filed in california. they will be filed not only against mr. combs, but perhaps against venues and other entities that we believe were involved you should know that of these hundred and 20 people that they're from 25 different states 25 of them were minors at the time. this alleged conduct occurred. and even

since we had our press conference yesterday to announce the intention to file these cases as you might expect, we've received thousands of more calls the scope and breadth of this is incredible it's unfathomable really we're talking about conduct that occurred for more than 25 years i think your point about some of the previous lawsuits and why there's more lawsuits. now, i think the deciding factor there, i think what really kind of broke this wall of silence was the indictment and arrest and then they denial of bail of mr. combs so i think just here at the tip of the iceberg there, the conduct that's been alleged, it's just i mean, things you may have never even heard before. the people involved it's just it takes it takes a lot of work to try to run all of these things down,

corroborate them to share that that we are going to do it in a methodical by the numbers way. but i think people are going to be shocked when these cases start to be filed because as soon as they're ready, we're going to file them and filed them one after another until they're all filed and we're going to sue the individual people who you know, let's, let's, let's think about the type of entities and people involved. not only was for you, where you get their attorney, let me jump in before you get there. >> and i am very curious as the way you've described it, the 25 different states you intend to file these differently, in different lawsuits, not collectively. so you're asserting that these will not be some collective multistory a class action-based, it will be individual suits and as they become ready, you will file them or you're waiting for particular date. the reason i ask this is because what people are leaning in with every statement you make about the allegations and naturally, his counsel vehemently denies particularly the claim of that

minors but it's hard to defend oneself against coming that floats in the ether. do you intend to file these as soon as each are ready? are you waiting for a date certain for all collectively? >> well, i my my anticipation is my anticipation was within the next 30 days, but obviously, i would like to file them as soon as we can you know, it would be easy to follow them. all right. now, just against mr. combs, but i want to make sure that every individual every entity that had involvement is included in each and that's what we're really doing here. i mean, the people mentioned that camera. sorry, tony, you've mentioned a couple of times. i'm really interested in the idea of you've called them complicit cowards. i'm sorry to talk over you with a little bit of a delay in my ear but you talked about complicit cowards and that you want to make sure that there is other entities or anyone else who might be named, but you've suggested ested, the lawsuits will expose what you call very powerful people who were these people? what types of entities are you

revealing that information now no, i'm not going to tell you that now, obviously, as you can imagine, i've been asked that many, many times, but not by me. now i'm asking who you think who is going to be also you've asked it better than anyone else, but the answer is going to be the same. >> we're talking about people that owned private residences, people that don't studios. we're talking about people that written the room. we're talking about people that participated. we're talking about people that encouraged the conduct we're talking about people that knew about it and tried to cover it up i bet you there's and i think it's pretty clear there's a lot of people right now who are very nervous or scrubbing their social media, who are searching their memories and deleting data in their phones me about the public people that we'd recognize. >> are either people who were out of the public eye now there are people in the public eye, of course venues, you know, people, you know, people you've heard of executive types. and of course, also, let's not

forget there may be banks involved. there may be hotels involved, venues, involved, clubs involved, individuals who own private residences. i mean it's his fraud and as you can possibly imagine, because we're talking about conduct that happened over a long period of time, many, many times a year tony, of the allegations that are swirling around right now in light of what you have said are particularly damaging. >> and i do wonder what when you will file and how his counsel will react. thank you for joining us this evening thank you very much tony buzbee the question a lot of people have is this if the allegations against diddy are true how could it have gone for so long? i mean, he's talking about years and years without anyone saying anything my next guest has interviewed some people who have known diddy for quite some time to re joins with his insights next

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modify route through your trash. >> robitussin with real honey and elderberry i'm bill weir on the california coast and this is cnn well, people in the music industry might be looking over their shoulders and wondering if the allegations again sean, "diddy" combs could implicate them. singer aubrey o'day, who was part of the duty group, danity kane, calling out diddy's inner circle, posting on x quote, all of you who knew all of you, who knew who did he was that paid this man with money or opportunity or enabled him to continue? >> you all have blood on your hands, unquote nowaday and other accusers believe a culture of silence and complicity runs rampant in the music industry, hoping to turn a blind eye to alleged abuses again diddy has denied all the claims against him my next guest reports that as diddy accumulated more money more power, people close to him saw the music mogul change, saying

that he plummeted into a drug induced haze, calling him a quote, addict. >> and even a sociopath with me now, we're now did music writer, critic and author to ray. he's covered diddy and the industry for decades to ray. thank youor joining me this evening. you've probably heard my last guest in attorney that says that he is preparing to bring 120 lawsuits against diddy from new accusers. and there are powerful accomplices whose identities he says would quote, shock people you've reported on some of the people who helped mentor diddy over the years, then the attorney's claims will actually be proven, right you know what we've seen and i've been doing a lot of reporting on this on my substack culture fries by torre, i've talked to a lot of people who have worked with him, who've been opposed to him and it seems like there's a whole mechanism of control whereby if you want to be in the music business, you want to be a rapper, a singer, dancer, a producer. >> you get into his inner circle and then he tests you.

are you willing to do this thing or that thing at this party or what have you are in this duty or whatever? and if you are, then you're able to sort of keep moving up and continue to be an artist. and if you're not, you are violently threatened. he doesn't take no for an answer and he may threaten or actually conspire to kick you out of the music industry. so he's preying on your dreams. people who are coming to him saying, can you we helped me achieve my dream. and because they're like you know, i'm willing to do whatever to become a known professional creative it's like, oh, you're willing to do whatever. okay. well, let's see well, this has gone beyond this where the infamous making the band of getting juniors cheesecake in the middle of the night, walking a certain distance. what is being alleged here is not just what are you willing to do, what's being alleged is criminal behavior that goes far and beyond even if you can call it run of the mill exploitation, if there ever were such a thing of a powerful executive, we're talking about men were talking

about women who are accusing him as well. and your music insider, have you had you heard these complaints that arise, these allegations before? >> i certainly had not heard anything about freak offs before, but now we see that diddy is constantly allegedly drugging people, right? that's part of what, 20 buzbee is talking about that a lot of his clients are saying they're getting they're going to the hospital and finding horse tranquilizer in there bodies and in the indictments and again, in the people i've talked to you in my reporting, we see over and over, they're saying did he forced to be pushed me urged me to take a drink, a shaw. what have you and the next thing i knew, i felt terrible. i woke up the next day. i didn't know what had happened in my memory opinion, wipes and i felt i really soar in places where i should and so many people have said that in the indictment and said that to me in the reporting and frightening, he

is clearly incapacitating a lot of people allegedly threw this mean through horse tranquilizer and other drugs but also through the narcotic of fame. i mean, you talk about making the band. cassie gets it worse than anyone for ten years, she believed she was working on an album that was the method of control. >> he used to keep her doing what he wanted her to do at night during the day, she's working on an album, the album never had a title. >> it never for he to release date. it was never intended to even come out. he had her basically on a treadmill running occupying her. so then at night, she would do what he wanted her to do. >> the allegations that you have described, i just stomach turning for so many reasons and to think about again, these are allegations look, the prosecutor and me will tell you there is still a presumption of innocence. there are still obviously you have to prove these things. you allegations. but what is circling is very disturbing. and in fact, you

have your own personal story about diddy. you say that you've helped a relative get an internship with his record label? but it abruptly ended. what happened yeah, this happened long time ago. >> i knew this man. i mean, i've been in the music business the media part of the museum's for a very long time, i knew him, i saw him come up. so i knew him well enough to call him at one point when i had a family member who was trying to break in, the hague, will you hide? air? >> my family member as an intern unpaid internship. >> and he said sure. and he took them on and for three months it was fun and exciting going to the manchin, gone on the jet gonen atlanta. what have you and then it abruptly stopped and i asked, why did the internship stop? that i got no answer and it wasn't until years later that i was finally told that did he had said come home with me tonight or the internship is over and i was

shocked that he would have the audacity to say that. and do that to somebody who is related to somebody in the media. and you know how easy it is for us to get on a platform and to talk about what happened. and i thought the audacity there was just stunning obviously, i had no idea that that was possible that he might say that to somebody in my family because if i thought there was even 1% of a chance, i wouldn't put my beloved family member in that position so clearly, i didn't know that that was possible from him to re there is a lot to discover in this case. we know this is not going anywhere, of course he's being held in jail pending a trial on the federal charges and more than a dozen cases still looming. torre. thank you so much. >> thank you everyone. >> thank you for watching anderson cooper 360 is next

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