aging is not just the number of years, it's how much inflammation you have, your immunity, your metabolism, things like that metformin is one of these medications that seems to target many of these hallmarks of aging according to longevity researchers decreases your chance of diabetes decreases your chance of cardiovascular disease, and slows down your cognitive decline that's how i put it together. >> it is pretty incredible and i love that you've sort of looked into this vitamin thing because everyone would say take your vitamins and is a guy that doesn't matter, it's not a big deal, but now the evidence this is starting to show that actually it might have a serious impact so write all these down. we're taking pictures of it just so that i could remember myself. we've got another one. this is from terry and ohio she asks how much does genetics versus environmental factors play in reaching 100 years of age or older on it, so nature versus nurture genetics versus your lifestyle

factors, you'd say genetics is around 20% that's putting a number on it. >> these are probabilities. there's not an exact number here, but it's around that number. this was based on a large study of 400 million person meta-analysis around the world, sort of trying to answer this question and where they landed was somewhere around 20% of your overall longevity is based on genetics to put two finer points on it. there's about 20 longevity genes now that have been identified and these represent potential targets for scientists going forward, it's why we're likely to continue to improve longevity and even get far more centenarians in the next few decades but also, it changes a bit throughout your age, throughout your life. so the first seven to eight decades of your life, that's going to be far more lifestyle. but then when you get into your last couple of decades of life, that's where genetics may start to take on an outsized role. there and case and point, take a look at this picture. sara these there my own parents

who are living a really healthy lifestyle. and my dad actually turned 80 this week that's them at the gym. and they're pushing some iron and i think resistance training in particular it makes a huge difference. so that's something they do as well. >> oh my my god, the gupta has are so adorable. i see where you get your lox and your brain's. thank you so much, dr. gupta and biceps john is looking at the biceps i don't know what we're going to do with him, but he he's working out because his memory is sometimes fail him john a new hour of cnn, new central starts right now appearance on the cantrell, this morning, kamala harris bringing republican liz cheney to wisconsin, how it all came together moments ago oh, melania trump released a new video declaring a major break from her husband on one of the

most critical issues that the campaign and breaking news cnn here's several large blast in beirut. >> we've got new reporting now, also on what israel has planned for ron. >> kate is out. i'm john berman with sara sidner for in this is cnn new central opposite sides of the political spectrum, but today, former top house republican, liz cheney and democratic candidate for president harris hitting the campaign trail together. the two will be in the critical swing state of wisconsin appearing at a school house known as the birthplace of the republican party the unlikely duo teaming up in a push to win over republicans and independents in battleground states. >> so also this morning, melania trump breaks with her husband on one of the most critical issues in this campaign. abortion, really one of the most critical issues in

the country so the guardian, this happened after the guardian first reported that melania trump was supporting was interesting support for abortion rights in just moments ago she put out a new video. let's watch fundamental principle that ai safeguards without a doubt there is no room for compromise when it comes to these essential right that all women possess from birth individual freedom what does my body, my choice really mean? to be clear, the black and white choice and the music was part of the video, the melania trump just released their with us now cnn senior political commentator van jones former trump administration official, matt mowers van so that's the first time i saw that video and it just came out a short time ago there it depends. it really does bag a lot of questions. and yes, number one, is this is

a to sell books. is it be some grand break in your face to her husband on a key campaign issue. is it nine-dimensional chess? torres? she's trying to present this case to voters that, hey, there can be disagreement on this issue no idea. >> first of all, why maybe she's trying to come out of the shadows. i mean, just you have this music in the background and faces like hashtag shaded. it's getting us talking about the book. it's definitely good for book sales. this is either one two things is they big break with her as her husband and saying, i just don't agree and i have my own book and my own standard. i don't care or it is 27 dimensional chess and people say, well, maybe she will soften trump on abortion. so maybe some suburban housewives and women and voters will change our position but this is bizarre. i don't think you've ever seen in the history of american politics, a former first lady or the spouse of a candidate come out with a

book and a video saying, i don't agree with my husband's party on a key issue. it's never happened before, ever the language she used there was the language that harris because he used on the stump or tim walz the other night in the debate, be honest, say music could have been in the background talking about freedom. i don't he listened. you got cheney coming out today, maybe a lot and comes out tomorrow. harris, it could often crazy 2024 is both matt mowers is losing it, i can hear him spiraling right now, listening to all this matt, i do want to ask you about liz cheney know what van had with his cereal this morning? >> i want to know whether it was a no those curios it was a safe vodka, cheerios it's a new thing right out. matt, i am curious about what you think about liz cheney joining kamala harris on the stump. have we ever seen anything like this

before? because before this, obviously the dnc, you had a few republicans, a couple of republicans, well-known coming out and speaking to back her, but now you're seeing liz cheney, one of the most well-known concern serve it is come and stand with her and campaign with her in a swing state >> we seen it before. we saw about a month ago when we had a kennedy campaigning with donald trump i think this is just showing another way how the two parties are shifting right now. >> i mean, if you go back, even just a decade ago, he and the republican party was largely the college degree largely white largely upper class party, and the democrats were doing quite well with blue collar voters across the spectrum, whether they're white, black, latino, et cetera. >> that's changing, right? we are seeing that change before our very eyes. mr. mattingly right now. and the reason you're seeing the kennedy campaign with trump in a cheney campaign with kamala harris. and so i think ultimately

though, i think the bigger test here is, why are they in wisconsin? i mean, if you go back month-and-a-half ago, every democrat was saying was constant, almost off the board, public polling was showing high single digit leads for kamala harris. and the fact is that both wisconsin and michigan have now closed in tight. they're looking about half point margin in the polling average for kamala harris, not to mention the fact that was constant, more than any other state in 2016 and 2020, had a big polling miss. it was almost six points and 16, i believe having to eight points in 2020. and so i think it's really telling that all places that's where they decided go but i'll say is i wonder if vance me passing around what all the stuff he's been having this morning over to the campaign bus over there wisconsin. >> wow. well, look, first of all, you just answered why there are wisconsin and hillary and robby mook can tell you why they're in wisconsin right now from it hill are healing didn't go there in 2016 and look what happened when you go to places to help shore them up matt, i don't i want your take

on the melania trump thing. >> you know, it still in i can't get the black and white in the music out of my head. they're what impact do you think that has its jarring yeah. >> i think there's two things. there's why it was done and then there is what impacted us and they're two separate things. sometimes you know folks campaign is very calculated and very precise as having worked on presidential campaigns is having won for office myself sometimes in this case, launia trump probably just want to make her position known and so that is where i think the reason she did it look at the impact it has. i mean, i think it's actually in some ways helps donald trump. it makes him more relatable. i mean, i can tell you, i don't agree with my wife on every issue. she agrees with me on even fewer issues and so i think this is actually pretty common. in fact, there's been some studies coming out lately about

the difference of like men and women going to vote this year or spouses, i should say going to vote this year compared to 2020. 2020, there all senate, the kitchen table looking over each other's shoulders, filling out the ballots this year, they're going into polling place on their own. and what impact that may have. so i think this actually helps brought in donald trump's appeal, potentially could be. i mean, i do think that he's trying to say what's happening with the parties as a kind of education versus not education income shuffle. there's some of that, but i think what i'm i'm seeing is there's a different dimension of politics now, it's not just left versus right. it's pro-democracy, pro-constitution versus a more authoritarian direction. and i think what unites an aoc, the cheneys the taylor swift, like the kamala harris coalition is so big and so broad, it's because it's deeper value he's at play here as a deeper sense that donald trump doesn't seem to care about facts and seemed to care about the constitution and that

scaring a lot of people. so you've gotta coalition of hope around, around the future of democracy that could include the cheneys. it's not just a demographic shuffle. does a psychographic shuffle hear about do you care about democracy or not? >> where's melania fall into it? >> i listened. she said she's coming out the shadows. she's coming on shadows. he's coming into the light. she isn't still be with this time next week, she will be on that same stage with kamala harris figured that's where we're headed as my prediction as not ridiculous morning, we're going to write that down van you might regret it right. we're having a lot of fun with politics. >> yes, we are van jones, matt mowers. >> thank you both so much. appreciate you. all right. this morning, president biden heading to tallahassee, florida, as he continues to tour the destruction left behind from hurricane helene, the death toll from that storm rising to now 191 people from florida. he'll head to georgia during his visit to hard hit

north carolina on wednesday, the president approved more federal funding for areas impacted by helene and about 1 million people still without power across six states this morning, hundreds of people are still missing and struggling to get basic supplies. cnn's arlette saenz's in perry, florida for us this morning. what can we expect? expect from the president's tour today where he will go and what he will say spending his second day a row touring the devastation wrought by hurricane helene as he and his team are seeking to highlight the federal response to help these communities recover. >> the president is following his trip to north carolina yesterday with stops here in florida and in georgia, the president will be heading here to the big bend region of florida. he will take an aerial tour to see the damage from up in the skies before landing here in perry, florida, where we are right now, perry is where hurricane helene hit very close by to hear one week ago

you and president biden will make his way down to keaton beach, florida, where he's expected to receive an operational briefing and also see the damage firsthand there, keaton beach is one of those residents communities that was devastated by hurricane kalepa. many of the homes simply destroyed in the aftermath of that storm, the president is also planning to head to the valdosta pasta georgia area a bit later this afternoon. now, at this time, it seems unlikely that biden would be accompanied here by governor ron desantis, who was actually holding his own press conference several hours south of where biden will be. we'll see whether he is joined by georgia's governor brian kemp a little bit later afternoon in that state, but president biden, yet a yesterday, as he was in the north carolina area, he had held that aerial tour to see the damage. they were unable to drive the motor case and the entire apparatus that follows president into that hardest hit area in western north carolina. but he saw the devastation from above and then tried to assure

the community that the federal government would be there for the long haul to help them recover. take a listen united states, the nation has your back. >> the nation has your back. we're not leaving to your back on your feet completely. >> in a moment like this, we put politics aside yes, we should put it all aside. >> we have here there are no democrats, republicans only american and our job is to help as many people as we can as quickly as we can and as thoroughly as we can time when hurricane helene has emerged as a political flashpoint. former president donald trump it's, tried to criticize the administration for their response falsely claiming at one point that the georgia governor was unable to reach president biden as this storm was unfolding. that is something that is simply not true, something that governor kemp had said he spoke with biden and it had appreciated his outreach and the administration's efforts. but present and then biden really

in this moment, is trying to show that the federal government has their hands around this situation is going to continue to pour resources into this community. of course, alejandro mayorkas hey, jess secretary has said that funding could be running short. that is something president has said that congress may need to act on sometime soon understanding there with all the places the stores boarded up and we're seeing the destruction is just terrible. >> arlette saenz. thank you so much. appreciate it. john all right. >> ymca versus hail to the chief. new evidence that could reveal how music, choice weiss may play a role in the election subversion case against donald trump the breaking news at a beirut cnn crews hearing new explosions as israel strikes at the heart of the lebanese capital in the daughter of one of donald trump's closest advisors now endorsing kamala harris. where are be giuliani's daughter, warning, quote, donald trump took my dad from me. do not let him think our country too find themselves leaving you

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essential stories in journalism. and now, cnn has been honored with 12 emmy awards. the most of his organization this year donald trump hitting the trail for the first time since stunning new details were unveiled in special counsel jack smith's election interference case against him smith says, this evidence proves trump was acting as a private citizen and a candidate when he quote, resorted to crimes to stay in office and therefore, trump's actions were not covered by presidential immunity. >> zachary cohen is joining us now with more, give us some sense of what the evidence is that prosecutors our laying out here yes, there this is the most detailed picture we've seen so far of jack smith's case against donald trump. >> and it lays out why prosecutors think donald trump should still face criminal charges even after the u.s. supreme court granted him limited immunity for those actions deemed under the official capacity of his job as

president. now, jack smith is arguing in this filing that trump was acting as a private citizen, not as president when he quote resorted to crime to try to stay in office. and specifically, jack smith writes, in his filing, the executive branch has no authority or function to choose the next president. he, meaning trump sought to encroach on powers specifically assigned by the constitution to other branches to advance his own self-interest and perpetuate, and perpetuate himself in power, contrary to the will of the people. this filing goes on to lay out some additional evidence that we had not seen before. it includes private conversations. witnesses say donald trump had with with republican legislators legislators, with different political operatives, campaign advisers i'm really making the case that donald trump was directly involved in various efforts to overturn the 2020 election leading up to january 6. and it also includes new details about donald trump's actions on january 6 itself, and specifically his interactions with then vice president mike pence. prosecutor said they have evidence that donald trump

himself is the one who sent that now infamous tweet on january 6 essentially saying mike pence didn't have the courage to overturn the election results and they accused him of trying to stoke anger amongst that mob that was already outside the u.s capitol. and it really underscored by what one witness said when trump was told that mike pence is being evacuated from the capitol that day. trump's alleged response was, quote, so what prosecutors again, making this case that a private citizen, donald trump, was acting on his own to enrich himself when he tried to overturn the 2020 election results. >> all right. zachary cohen. thank you so much for looking at that video of pence having to be ushered out of his office on that day. appreciate it. john right with us now, former attorney for donald trump, tim parlatore, counselor great to have you here exactly a really good job explaining this filing. >> i just want to read one quote, which i think encapsulates what jack smith is trying to do here. he's talking about donald trump's rally on the ellipse on january 6. he says, in the manner in which the defendant took the stage at the rally was also

consistent with his campaign rallies. instead of entering as a military band, played hail to the chief as he might end an official presidential event that defendant entered an exited the ellipse speech to the songs he had used through the campaign. god bless the usa in the village people's, ymca. smith also noted that this was paid for by outside sources, not paid for this event and by the u.s. government, why in jack smith's mind, is this distinction so important what he has to do here is to try and paint everything that happened there as purely being under his role as a candidate as opposed to the president's so he's using that, he's using meetings where he had his personal attorney, but not white house counsel present. >> he's he's doing all that to try to shade everything in the light that would allow them to get around the supreme court ruling. so it does make sense that he would use the music yeah, look, this is something when i was involved in the case, we were constantly

dealing with was to try and figure out there are portions of this that we're under his role as president, portions of it that are under the role as candidate and those in some cases is clear. but in some cases is kind of blurry. >> and frankly, i'm not sort of the supreme court helped so much and trying to distinguish between the two in your mind, can you explain what you think is clearly a campaign event or political related as it pertains to this case oh, no. >> look, when we were there, we were very clear there are certain things that he did that are absolutely campaign-related and so i never tried to advance the argument that everything here was presidential and so, but the thing is when you look at that campaign rally, he is this a perfect example of how prosecutors will cherry pick the things that are favorable to their case and then ignore the things that aren't. and so i'm sure that my former client is probably beating the drum shortly on yeah.

>> he didn't put in there that i said peacefully and patriotically things like that. >> yes. there's no question that that was a campaign related rally, but was that something when he says things like peacefully and patriotically that led to the riot when the doj has already charged and put people in jail for having pre planned the riot in the way with the proud boys cases. they're already down there. they didn't need to hear this speech, so it's i think it is campaign, but the question is whether it's criminal a phone call with steve bannon, phone records with steve bannon on january 5th, not long before bannon put out tweets saying that all hell was going to break loose or something to that effect. >> i'm paraphrasing. there again, a conversation with steve bannon presidential or political would be political steve bannon with no longer he will no longer with the white

house at that time so there are just there are an eye and this is a hard case at this point. it's gonna be hard for judge chutkan to unravel this, but you know, as someone who has looked through a lot more of this than we have do you think they're eating? is enough? just campaign related activity for charges to stand and survive enough that you can present the case based on the purely campaign related stuff. >> i don't think that the case that jack smith has laid out in this filing is you know, has been narrowed enough based on the supreme court's ruling, i think that the biggest place where he's going to run into trouble is with my pets because he's kind of taking contradictory positions at different points within the litigation but there's certainly enough on the campaign side that you could at least present a case. now whether all of those facts end up to being able to sustain a

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tnt and see new explosions seen and heard by cnn crews in beirut with those are new pictures just coming in. israel says its air force hit hezbollah's intelligence headquarters in beirut. the new blast follow and israeli missile strike in the heart of the city overnight that killed at least nine people. also this morning is real, is signaling what it is calling a strong painful response against iran that they say is coming soon or on attacked israel with missiles earlier this week, the leader of hezbollah, of course, over the weekend was also the sassy native president biden's message this morning, is that israel has a right to defend itself, but he has also cautioned restraint with us now is former defense secretary

william cohen, mr. secretary. thank you so much for being with us this morning. what do you think irans current asking you because people are warning israel, you don't want to respond too much that could, that could, you ignite some kind of wider war. but what could iran conceivably do now to israel that it hasn't already where we have our military personnel that could attack targets in iraq and syria. also in the gulf states, where we have thousands of our military personnel. we have them on ships, we have in both frames, so there are a number of targets that iran could respond to by attacking the united states that would be a big mistake in my judgment because that would then require the united states to become very actively involved in attacking iran, which president biden is reluctant to do. so what he is doing is urging caution on the

part of israeli saying strike back we know you're going to strike back hard. but take care that you don't end up killing lots of innocent people during the process, we expect you to go after military targets, intelligence targets, but not innocent civilians. >> what targets were hurt? >> iran, the most to begin with, their silos or missile silos, they are development, production facilities for missiles to the extent that they're helping chemical weapons that would be an appropriate target. >> obviously, the most threatening israel would be the potential development of nuclear weapons is the biggest fear on the part of the israelis should iran ever get to that point where they can develop and produce multiple weapons that would be an existential threat to the israelis. and but the difficulty for them is that those facilities are spread out port over a large part of the iran. no one site it would not be a single day operation or

even a week operation so it's going to take it would take a real sustained air campaign and i'm missile attack campaign to take out those capabilities on iran. and i don't i don't believe that the israelis at this point have that capability. so they would ask the united states to participate in president biden has said, no, thank you. >> how we can do believe hezbollah is as of this morning well, the estimates are that they're potential military capabilities been cut in half. we'll have to wait and see what that means to the extent that hezbollah start striking israel directly in their urban areas as they have been trying to do recently then i think the israelis are going to respond and attack those sites in beirut where hezbollah has either military operations or intelligence that they don't. apparently this morning. and what they're saying is we know you're baring your military intelligence capability and

civilian areas. >> we don't care. we're going to take the no matter how many we killed, we're going to take out your military and intelligence operations. we might approach that somewhat differently, but we united states, i've never been in an existential threat since world war ii and so opposed imposing our standards on the israelis at this point it's not going to be accepted by them. and i don't think it should be yeah. and it's interesting you put it that way because obviously united states is urging caution. but what opportunities do you think currently exist at this moment? >> it took permanently for israel to permanently weakened hezbollah to permanently weaken reduce the threat from iran i don't think there'll be any permanent destruction on the part of those seeking destruction of israel until the israelis indicated, indicate there appeared to deal with a palestinian state that is governed by a responsible

palestinian authority, a new palestinian authority that wants to live in peace with israel israel's never going to be safe unless they provide autonomy. and independence and certainly sovereignty to the palestinian people. israel won't be safe until it happens. and the palestinians will never be saved from israeli attacks until they recognize that it's pretty clear what needs to be done. i don't think they israeli the current administration are interested in having any kind of a two-state solution. i think ultimately that's where we have to get to getting there is going to be very bloody former secretary william cohen. >> thank you so much for being with us this morning. always great to see you tara all right ahead. this morning. rudy giuliani's daughter says it's one of the hardest things she has had to do publicly break with her father. she says donald trump took her father from us and is warning americans this morning we will talk with her in just a bit

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daughter of trump's former personal attorney, rudy giuliani, writing in a vanity fair op-ed the ci is breaking from her father. the piece is titled trump took my dad for me. please don't let him take our country to carolina a rhose giuliani is joining us now. i want to start with your words beyond the headline in the vanity fair article you write, the last thing i want to do is hurt him, especially when he's already down. plus, we never know how much time we have left with our parents. the totality of that makes this the most it's difficult piece. i've ever written. so why did you read it difficult decision figuring out how to say these things was incredibly hard and figuring out if ai could share it because if i could handle more intensity right now was really hard, but i really want to have children. >> and when i thought about the future, that i would be able to give them i just knew that the

stakes were far too high to not share this personal story and make sure that everyone who's voting understands the stakes. i want my children to have autonomy over their body. i want them to have rights if they are if they are gay or trans, i want them to live on a planet that's not suffocating them. and i would love for them to live in a democracy. and i now understand that that's a privilege and it's a privilege that we need to fight for. and the way that we can do that is by voting for kamalaharris because donald trump will not preserve our democracy. that is very, very clear you talk a lot about your father and donald trump and sort of what you think donald trump has done to him and you said that you also had a cartoonishly complicated relationship with your dad? >> what in your mind has happened to your father? and why do you think donald trump has had such an influence on him

>> i get it. i get asked that question a lot i think it has something to do with power, but i think the reason i get asked that question is because my situation is so unbelievably relatable there is not one person that i know who hasn't lost a close friend or family member over donald trump. and politics have always been divisive, but not like this. this is different. the type of toxic cruelty that his views and the way that he threatens the very existence of people of women, of people of color, of trans people at people with disabilities of anyone who basically doesn't look exactly like him it makes it very hard to have a relationship with someone who supports a man like that. i still believe that we should be trying to see them in humanity in one another even in this trump era. but if trump becomes the president, that's going to be really, really hard for a lot of people and i think that the only way our nation

has a chance at healing is if we put kamala harris in the white house, she is our only chance of healing this country you you're really passionate about this and you wrote very passionately and expressed how hard it was. >> and some of the things that happened between you and your father, can you give me some sense of what the conversations have been because this is something that you, as you said, there are lots of families that are in the middle of these very divisive politics. what did you talk to your dad about when he when he came to you which you said was unusual and said, hey, i'm thinking about being the attorney for donald trump >> that was a really painful night because actually he had recently started the process of getting a divorce which allowed us for a lot us to have more connection than we typically had had over the past ten years. >> so when that happened, i just knew that our opportunities to connect would become less and less if he made this choice and if he went down

this path further in the time since then, we have had many conversations about what's happening in our country and i do always share my opinion and he shares his. >> and so we have open communication but as time has gone on and as things have gotten worse and worse, i do bring it up less and less because i see that it's not changing anything and i'm when i spend time with my dad, i want to connect with him and that makes it very hard and i think that's something a lot of americans can relate to. and i think that is why we need a president who allows us to disagree without all of this hatred and anger. and i think that that person who can bring all of us together under one umbrella is kamala harris. that is definitely not trump just lastly, can you give me some sense of how your father is because you talk in in your

article that you are concerned about him pain. >> but he doesn't show it and i know that i'm in a lot of pain over seeing our country be in the grips. again of this man who does not care about citizens. he does not care about us. all he cares about all trump cares about is maintaining power. he's made that very, very clear that he will do anything, say anything stand on anyone's backs just to get power. and that does not a person who has the dignity and qualifications to run our country. so we really need to get kamala harris in the white house. she has spent her life she has spent her life fighting

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