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response to iran will be strong, painful and also soon. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central bull's eye today for the two presidential campaigns. >> and in the coming hours, we're going to see an unlikely pair come together. vice president kamala harris and former house republican liz cheney side by side in battleground wisconsin and the location carries added significance. they're going to be appearing together at a schoolhouse known as the birthplace of the republican party. meantime, in about two hours, donald trump will speak to voters in the key state of michigan. it's the first time we're seeing him on the campaign trail since stunning new details dropped, and special counsel jack smith's election interference case against him. let's take you now live to michigan with cnn's elena treene. elena,

what can we expect from this event with donald trump well, boris, when i talked to donald trump's advisers about today's event, they argue it's a traditional political rally for donald trump in a crucial swing state that you're likely to see him visit at least every week if not more, between now and election day. >> but to your point i do think you can expect donald trump to talk about these two major storylines. one, of course, the sweeping new details that jack smith released yesterday. but also liz cheney appearing with kamala harris later today. i can tell you that these are both at the forefront of donald trump's mind. so i think it's likely he will address them on stage. i do want to talk about the smith brief first, because, as you said these new details are sweeping about his role in the january six, 2021 capitol attack and there's a few ways i know that the trump campaign is viewing this. one is that given we are so close to election

day, they think it only bolsters their argument that jack smith specifically, but also the justice department, are trying to interfere in the election, a claim we have heard them made repeatedly. of course, no evidence that that is true, but that is something they're arguing that maybe will resonate with voters and they'll see this as such. however, they also recognize that the key voters that they are targeting, unlike before in his past indictments, when you did see donald trump enjoy somewhat of a boost among his core base, now they're really targeting more independent leaning and moderate leaning conservatives, and they act differently than donald trump's base. so there's questions about how this could resonate with those crucial voters. and then the other part of this, of course, is that they recognize, given we are only 33 days away from november 5th, a lot of people in this country are maybe only starting to tune in now, and they may be learning of these details for the first time. despite a lot of this being uncovered over the last two years. so that's also i think, a point of concern for the trump campaign. as for liz cheney, look, i

mean, she has always been ripe for donald trump's attack. she has always been in his line of fire. and i actually she's not only endorsed kamala harris, but that she's actually going to go to wisconsin and appear alongside her to campaign for her is definitely bothering donald trump. now. i did ask the trump campaign about this. this is what a trump campaign spokesperson caroline leavitt, told me. she pointed me to an august 20th, 20 tweet that cheney had previously posted that read quote, kamala harris has a more liberal voting record than bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. her radical leftist views raising taxes and banning gun sales, taxpayer money for abortion and illegal immigrant health care. um, it goes on to say, would be devastating for america. so this is clearly how the trump campaign is trying to frame this, that cheney once attacked harris's positions, and now she's moving away from them again, though i do think it's very likely donald trump will bring these up. we know that these are the type of attacks

that he just cannot resist so i do anticipate you'll hear about this. and i think this is in line with exactly the type of rhetoric you can expect from him. >> yeah, we are expecting to hear from him roughly at 3 p.m. we will, of course monitor those remarks. alayna treene, thank you so much, brianna. >> when former congresswoman liz cheney joins vice president harris on the campaign trail today she'll be fulfilling her vow to campaign against former president trump, something that will likely see throughout this election cycle. in the meantime, harris is racking up more endorsements from some other high profile republicans. former trump white house aide cassidy hutchinson says she would never in her life vote for trump again, and rudy giuliani's daughter also recently revealed that she is breaking with her father and throwing her weight behind harris. cnn's eva mccann is following the harris campaign in wisconsin. eva, talk to us a little bit about the significance of this event today with cheney

ripon, wisconsin, a beautiful part of the state here and it is known as the birthplace of the republican party. >> and it is here that the vice president will directly appeal to independent voters to republican voters as well. the message is quite clear that a harris administration would be principally concerned with the rule of law, upholding the constitution democracy, and it is those fundamentals that are most important, even if these republican and independent voters disagree with her on a host of other policy matters, she'll be bolstered in part by former congresswoman liz cheney. they will be standing before signs that say country over party. so she is a key ambassador for the harris walls campaign in making this argument. the campaign also investing in this argument as well. they're up with a new ad featuring a voter that supported the former president in 2016 and in 2020. let's listen.

>> look i voted for donald trump in 2016 and 2020. i thought he was going to help hard working people, but it turns out he's all about himself. trump cares for his cronies, people that are very wealthy. he will not lower my taxes republican and independent voters will not only here in wisconsin, but in other crucial battleground states, as well. >> this is part of a larger strategy of the campaign over the next four days, they are going to have a republican surrogate presence in all of the battleground states. but listen, some democrats that i speak to, they're not so crazy about this strategy. they believe that the campaign should instead be investing in the base of the party and not be trying so hard to court republican voters. but wisconsin democrats, they tell me that they like the strategy that in a state that's like 5050, like this one, this is actually a strategy that they employ cycle after cycle not

only during presidential years. they are depending on democrats in republican counties like this one, to be in constant conversation with their neighbors, to persuade them brianna. >> all right. eva mccann thank you so much for that report also, some interesting tension that you're highlighting there. so let's turn now to our panel, cnn political commentator and former communications director for vice president harris jamal simmons. and also with us here in studio republican strategist for axiom strategies, erin perrine. jamal, i wonder what you think about that. there is some tension over this strategy. yesterday we had congresswoman debbie dingell on the program, and she was saying that harris needs to be getting into union halls. she needs to be talking to, i mean, really white male union voters. is this the right play being out spending this precious little time campaigning with liz cheney? does this attract people that she doesn't already have in the persuasion taking place right now is the persuasion to

get people to show up who might already agree with you. >> so here's why this january 6th report is important. it's not so much that people need to go back through the details. i think most americans probably generally think that trump had something to do with it. the question now is for those folks who believe that, who probably don't want to vote for him, you've got to convince them to show up and vote for kamala harris at the same time, you've got to convince these voters who are inside many of the communities inside of the cities, like detroit and atlanta, african-americans, latinos young people to show up and vote also, they've got to participate there are very, very, very few people who are going to still change their minds. right now. this is about the voting booth or the couch. >> erin liz cheney was one of the top three republicans in the house. not that long ago. how significant is it? a loss for the trump campaign for the party at large, to have her now endorsing a democrat? >> she's been out against donald trump for a while now. so this isn't anything new to

any voting sect but it's an interesting move to be doing it in wisconsin not only because ripon is the home of the republican party, but this is properly a state as it can get right. 2010 it elected senator ron johnson. in 2012, it went for barack obama and elected tammy baldwin. so this was a state where you actually saw nikki haley make a lot of overtures to the independent voters, because it is an open primary state. this is a state where at that point anybody could vote. so this is a state where democrats do make overtures to republicans and republicans go after democrats because the margins are so tight. so if there were any of those independent voters who maybe were still on the fence about even participating at this point maybe they did consider a nikki haley in the primary, having someone like a liz cheney in the state with kamala could be a persuadable argument for that small sect. and with an election this close, every margin counts. >> i want to listen to a campaign ad, an economy focused ad, the economy, of course, donald trump does much better than harris in the polls on.

but this features a two time trump voter on why he's now turning to harris. here it is look, i voted for donald trump in 2016 and 2020. >> i thought he was going to help hard working people, but it turns out he's all about himself trump's economic plans only benefit billionaires and huge corporations, middle class working families. we will foot the bill. kamala harris will make the wealthy pay their fair share. she's tough. she knows the middle class built this country. she's looking out for us >> so we've seen a lot of that. it turns out but what matters more a liz cheney or a bob? >> well, it's going to be a bob. but it's going to be a bob. bob at your door. right? it's going to be a bob having a conversation with you, a voter, a friend, a neighbor, a family member who's saying, here's why i've changed my vote or here's why i'm voting that way. that's why ground game can be so crucial. all told, it can move an election 1 to 3 percentage points. and again, when you're this close, having a neighbor who can say

to you, you know what, i was there and now i'm voting for the other party because i don't like the direction the country was going before. that is a persuadable argument for a voter jamal, i want to get your thoughts on an endorsement for abortion access coming from perhaps an unexpected place. >> the former first lady melania trump, putting out a video essentially saying that she supports women's a woman's right to choose a woman's independence as she puts it, saying there's no room for compromise on the issue. what did you make of this you know, i think melania trump believes what she believes what i wonder, though, is if this is the trump campaign effort to kind of muddy the water on abortion. >> this is their effort to sort of say, oh, we're not really that bad. look at melania. melania agrees with you, but everybody knows that donald trump is the one who everyone should know. donald trump is the one who appointed the supreme court justices that got rid of roe v wade, got rid of the right to abortion access around the country so i think that's an important thing to

to remember, you know we're talking about the ad a second ago. i just want to jump in here on one thing. we're talking about the different communities that we're talking to. there's another ad that i saw today that i think came from the lincoln project that's targeting african american men, because we are seeing that donald trump is making some inroads with african american men. the tail end of that ad, the very last thing they say is be a man, vote for a woman. i think that's an incredibly important thing to remember that moving voters, this this election has got a lot of voters in unlikely places. and so we're talking to all of them if we're going to move people to the vote on november 5th. >> erin, what did you think about the melania message on abortion, though? do you think it muddies the waters? do you think it confuses people in a way that benefits trump or not? i don't think it confuses people. and i think that the first lady wouldn't have put it out if this wasn't of her own volition and her own direction. let's be very clear. melania trump makes melania trump's decisions, and especially when it comes to how she wants to participate in her husband's campaign. but she is a female voice forward. i wish this had happened a few months ago. this

was a message that republicans have been struggling on for years, and i think j.d. vance did a very good job on it during the debate, saying we need to be better on this we owe the american people an apology and an explanation on why we're so bad on this issue, and why we can't tell the american people yes, if a woman is bleeding out, she has access to health care. that's not a question and we can be pro-life republicans at the same time. she's got a different message than that. but at least there is a voice within the party that's standing up, one with a trump last name delivering a different message on it. >> we're going to dig deeper into that statement from the former first lady a little bit later in the afternoon, so stay tuned for that for now erin perrine, jamal simmons, appreciate you both. thanks for joining us. thanks. >> still ahead this hour on cnn news central, at least 200 people were killed by hurricane helene. and that death toll could be even higher as search crews navigate what's left of roadways highways and bridges. plus, a congressional candidate is accused of faking a family after it's revealed that the woman and the girls posing with

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survivors. you're looking at an image of route nine and thousands still don't have power in the area. part of roughly a million customers across the southeast. and look at this video man apparently watching as a company building nearly smashes into his apartment complex killing the people there. right here from the mayor of canton, north carolina zeb smathers that's about 20 miles west of asheville. mayor thank you so much for being with us. can you give us an idea of the number of folks that are still unaccounted for in your area

that together. >> obviously, that is still the most important part of this. even in haywood county, my understanding is we have several that are unaccounted for. we do expect, you know, sadly, those numbers to rise across the west, not only as we get to areas that are more, you know mountainous, but also communication is returning. we are slowly the cellular communication is coming back which allows us to contact people. you know, and cross-reference, you know. are you at home? is your cell phone working? did you leave the area? >> uh, so i think that's what you're going to see over the next couple of days. our search and rescue teams from across western north carolina, with help of our friends, really? from across the us, we are checking everywhere and we won't rest until everyone is accounted for. whether that be with good news or bad news and i understand there are still areas that are difficult to access. >> can you give us some idea of how much of the county or of the area is still unreachable

you know, it's one of our greatest strengths in north know our geography is. >> i mean, we have a beautiful mountains, but there are areas, even without a storm. >> i mean, you can be very close to someone and not be able to see them through you know, the leaves and the woods and a lot of people, you know call some of these back roads home and i think that's going to be something as we move forward to understand that no matter where you live in western, north carolina, you know, we have to get you the resources to recover, but also you know, as we move forward, do you want to build your house? you know, do you want to build back? do you want to move? this recovery needs to be equal across the board no matter where you call western north carolina home. and again, some of the places we call home are very rough, hard to get to. um, and those bridges may be out communications down but they're just as important as anyone else and we're not going to stop until we're able to check every location in western north carolina for survivors to

that point, mayor, you mentioned a moment ago that communications are starting to return. >> i'm wondering what other resources might be slow in getting to where they need to go. are folks there able to get the food and water that they need? i know that was an issue as of a few days ago you know what we're seeing? >> we're seeing with power. duke energy is doing a very good job. i think in working with, you know, again, people come in as far as canada getting the power back on water infrastructure still is the major need. and a lot of these areas that are outside your municipalities obviously they need power to run their wells and so you're seeing how it goes hand in hand. >> uh, but you know as it concerns food and supplies, again there are not words to express how thankful we are and humbled by so much love and support, not just from our from north carolina and the southeast, but across the us with supplies. but it goes to communication. we can get those

supplies to people that need it. the most, as long as we're able to locate them and communicate. so now it's communication back online. that's making that job a lot easier. i'm very proud here in the town of canton, we have a wonderful facility. uh open that serves hot meals showers, plenty of food and plenty of volunteers. so again, that that, you know, togetherness that exists in these mountains is coming together. we just got to make sure it's getting to the people that need it. >> the most. >> yeah mayor, i'm wondering if you have a message amid so much national attention on the southeast and specifically on on north carolina, if you have a leaders who are watching right now well, first off, thank you i mean, from zero hour, we have seen state, local and federal support. >> but the trick is what we learned. three years in canton when we went through a similar you know, hurricane experience in our small town. uh, this is not something that's going to

just last two weeks. >> we're going to be having to advocate for these areas in western, north uh, you know, these people. no matter, you know, where your hometown is, you know which, you know, city or cove you call home. they matter. uh, and so it's up to myself and others elected democrats republicans to make sure our know, elected officials know that these people matter. they matter now. they will matter in six months. and for the years to come. and again, if you call these mountains home, um we it's one family. and that's something special about this region. no matter where you are, you know how blessed you are to call these mountains home. and so we have each other's backs, and it's our job to make sure the rest of the country remembers. remembers that, uh right now they do. and our job is to make sure they don't forget about us appreciate that sentiment. >> it's well. so mayor zeb smathers, we hope you'll join us again in

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the latest as we get it. >> and also new today as israel weighs its response to that iranian missile barrage. on tuesday, a cnn team just heard blasts and saw smoke rising over southern beirut in lebanon. this is happening after the idf says it struck around 200 targets in lebanon in a huge wave of airstrikes overnight and among those targets, hezbollah's intelligence headquarters, the lebanese military says the strikes in central beirut killed at least nine people. a monitoring group says the intensity of these strikes is matched only by what we saw in the early days of israel's campaign against hamas. >> meantime, israel is now warning people in more than two dozen villages in southern lebanon to evacuate now telling them to, quote, save their lives. a major signal that israel is expanding its ground invasion. the ministry of health in gaza has reported 99 new deaths and 169 injuries in the past 24 hours, from israeli airstrikes. obviously, a lot of activity throughout that

region. let's get you to tel aviv now with cnn chief national security analyst jim sciutto. jim, what more are you learning about these latest attacks from israel in lebanese territory listen, you know, we talk about the fears in this region of an expanding war. >> i mean, the fact is, the war is expanding before our eyes, particularly of late on the lebanese front you have israel conducting airstrikes virtually across the country of lebanon, from the capital, beirut, down to southern lebanon, right up to the northern israeli border. those strikes inside beirut, perhaps the most consequential heavily populated areas. so it has struck fear into the population of beirut as to where the next strike is going to land as you note, the idf has identified at least one of the targets of their recent strikes. they say it was a hezbollah intelligence headquarters, and we're just learning in the last several minutes that israel says it conducted strikes in southern

lebanon that killed several hezbollah commanders, that strike, in conjunction with israeli ground forces on the ground inside southern lebanon. and it's already been a bloody conflict for them eight soldiers confirmed killed yesterday that front of this multi-front war is expanding, and we're seeing it particularly in beirut and today president biden was asked by a reporter if he would support israel striking iran's oil reserves in retaliation for tuesday's missile attacks. >> he did appear to leave the door open. he said, quote, we're in discussions of that. what are you hearing when it comes to israel's looming retaliation of options that israeli leaders are now considering goes from one end. >> perhaps the most extreme end of the spectrum, which would be to go after iranian nuclear facilities, but also includes potential strikes on oil facilities as well as senior

iranian leaders. and at the top end of the spectrum, i think you could safely place a strike on israeli nuclear facilities, but it would also be consequential for them to hit oil facilities because one, of course, that would restrict iran's earning capability. that's how it makes money selling oil, but also would have an international economic effect because that would be expected. and by the way, already just that prospect has driven up oil prices and then that has a carry on effect potentially on the u.s. political scene for the president there. you know, i listened to his words quite closely. it didn't seem that he was saying certainly, that he approves of that. but i think what he was communicating is that the u.s. and israel and this is what officials are telling me as well, are discussing israel's response, not clear they'll come to an agreement on what the best course of action is. but i think we could be quite confident israel will retaliate and perhaps quite soon. >> yeah, it would be certainly newsworthy if president biden were to endorse an attack on those oil facilities,

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impact the policy of the next administration as much as who wins the white house. that includes virginia's seventh congressional district which is shaping up to be a nail biter. two veterans locked in a close race, the republican derek anderson, a former green beret with backing from gop stalwarts like speaker of the house mike johnson, the democrat eugene vindman, a retired army officer and key figure in former president trump's second impeachment. he served in the trump white house with his twin brother, alex vindman, and became a whistleblower over the former president's infamous phone call with ukraine's volodymyr zelensky and eugene vindman is joining us now as early voting is already underway in the state. so, eugene, you and anderson had your debate last night. you both accused each other of misrepresenting some key personal details. let's start with anderson, who featured pictures and videos of a woman and three kids in his campaign materials that might give the casual observer the impression he's married with kids when he's he's not. the times

reports there, the wife and kids of a longtime friend of his. explain your issue with this. what's your beef with this? do you think this is disqualifying why well, look, first of all, um i'm a 25 year army vet. >> i'm proud to be raising my family here in virginia. i love virginia with my wife of 26 years and so, look, um what do you do when you're a maga, middle aged maga extremist? um bachelor? uh, at i guess you borrow a friend's wife and three daughters to soften your image. i think that the new york times got it 100% right. that's exactly what he's trying to do. he's trying to soften his image with women because he wants to um, he wants to fool people on his positions on on the major issues in this race, which are abortion, women's reproductive health care a fundamental, um, health care issue, and, and project 2025

where he stands on that. so that's what he did. it's it's a strange choice. >> um i've heard actually. creepy. uh, it's certainly weird but i, i have an issue with him trying to fool the voters in this district. uh to believe he's something that he's not. and this is part of a pattern that he's had he is engaged in writing. >> i don't think he's represented himself as being a family man. but the pictures we see them there, derek anderson meanwhile, accuses you of misrepresenting your military service, which you say you're proud of your rank at retirement as colonel versus lieutenant colonel. whether you actually saw combat, as you said, you used assault assault style weapons on the battlefield. what do you say to his accusations that there's more than that one image. >> there's also an image of him sitting at at a kitchen table with a woman and children. i mean clearly portraying himself as a married man with children. he's not

that uh, as it relates to my background my personal background. look, i was promoted to colonel by the us army. uh, people that have served more than a day know that you're referred to as colonel. uh, lieutenant colonel, colonel. and i'm proud of my service. i put my service up against anybody. i was actually a military times article that came out that that noted that i had a combat deployment to iraq. i stand behind my record and i think these are apples. and oranges. um comparisons. my record is clear. i'm not misrepresenting myself. and mister anderson. >> uh continually, continuously misrepresents himself this idea of what rank you attain versus what you retain as you retire, whether you used a assault style weapons on the battlefield. >> this has also been an issue that has dogged the vice presidential candidate, tim walz, as well. and on one hand,

there is this emphasis on being very exact about military service. i think sometimes things that civilians don't make a distinction on that maybe people who are military connected might. but then on the other it does seem like military service is becoming a bit of a political liability in many cases when it should be an asset. how are you seeing this debate well look, uh, military service is 100% an asset. >> uh and what i get from my military service, first of all, a lifetime of dedication to to mission and to people. you know, when i was jumping out of airplanes in the 82nd airborne division, it didn't matter whether you're a democrat republican, black, white, what part of the country you're in. we're a mission focused that's the mindset i bring to every job i have. and it's always been country over, over politics for me. so, um it's 100% an asset. i look forward to working with other military members in congress. and i know

that they share that same mission focus, uh, you know, 25 years in the military with my brothers and sisters kinship. there's a camaraderie. i find it unfortunate and frankly i think reflects more on the character of somebody like mr. anderson or the vice president when they questioned another service member's record than it does on the people they're questioning. i stand by my record very comfortable with the work that i did, and i was promoted to colonel on the steps of the lincoln memorial by, um tim kaine. so eugene vindman thank you so much for being with us yours is a race to watch. and we appreciate speaking with you today we did ask his opponent in the race to join us. we did not receive an answer. but of course, derek anderson is welcome any time to be with us. >> new today, former first lady melania trump breaking with her husband very publicly on the

issue of abortion. one of the most pivotal this election. watch this. >> individual freedom is a fundamental principle that i safeguard without a doubt there is no room for compromise when it comes to this essential right that all women possess from birth individual freedom what does my body, my choice really mean so that post also promotes what you just saw there. her self-titled memoir is set to be released next week. the guardian reporting mrs. trump adamantly voices her support for abortion rights in that book as well. joining us now is kate bennett. she is the author of the book free comma. melania the unauthorized biography the comma is important. so i like to mention it. um, why do you think that she shared this strong stance. now, a lot of observers are saying was this to sort of

soften her husband's stance on abortion okay, so this is interesting. >> i don't think melania trump does anything outside of the world of melania trump. and i can say that having covered her for for many years, you know, if you asked her, did you wear that white suit to the state of the union to send a signal about you know, suffragettes or hillary clinton did you wear that blouse with a bow tie after the access hollywood? both of those things? no i just wanted to do it. did she release this a week before this book coming out? a week before. a week? a month before the election to talk about abortion? no, i just want had it in my book. i don't think there are coincidences with melania trump as my point. however, i don't think she did it at the direction of donald trump or because he asked her to, or because she knew he was struggling in the polls with women on this. on this. >> it's so interesting you make that point. i remember we were at the white house together covering the trump administration when she wore that trench coat after she visited young migrants, and the trench coat said, i really don't care. do you remember

that? >> oh, yeah. yeah. >> so it's interesting you make that point. i'm more curious about the style of this video. i got to be honest. it feels the same. it feels a little bit like when i was a kid and i would do confession at catholic church that you feel that there's a face there, but it's like shrouded. it's like in black and white and it's shrouded. >> why you know, a lot of people have asked me this since these videos have been released, and i want to add here also, this is the first time we've heard from her during this entire election cycle. >> the most crucial for her husband's political career. she comes out to talk about the book using these sort of black and white, mysterious videos. it's, you know, it's an esthetic choice. she she she has taken here. i think it she's an enigma. she's mysterious. she extremely private. so i think she's kind of going after that trend. that would be my best guess on the on the black and white videos there. >> it's really interesting. all right. so she's not really been present on the campaign trail to your point. so it's very interesting to see her talk a

little bit about what her role has and has not been so wasn't the last time around. it wasn't the time before that. she does not like to be in the public eye. we didn't see her speak at the rnc this time around. but you know i remind people melania trump did one solo campaign event during the last election cycle, and it happened one week before election day. so we're not there yet. she may do one more. she may not. but listen, this is a topic that he could really use her getting out there on. >> kate really quick, we have to get your reaction to cnn requesting an interview with her, her publisher coming back saying exchange. apparently, the publisher says that request was made by mistake and that melania had not nothing to do with that. your reaction? >> i'm not sure it was a mistake. i mean, melania is very smart about monetizing herself the most we've heard from her since she left the white house is posting her christmas ornaments, her nfts, her little tchotchkes on her website and on her social media. like like

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