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a symbol of british colonial rule. it represents some really dark ideas and she he didn't like that line of coverage. and she medicine front of the great sphinx wish people would focus on what i do. not, but i left she walked away from us and started posing against the backdrop of the pyramid and it was literally a fact shouldn't show photo shoot don't miss the whole story this sunday night, 8:00 pm eastern. >> it's a look at melania trump and potentially her return. and also doug emhoff thank you so much for joining us. the news continues right here on cnn aviv, the breaking news in the dark. >> top state department official telling cnn the biden administration has been given no assurance for instance, from israel, but it will not target iran's nuclear facilities as
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concerns grow tonight, that israel could launch a devastating retaliatory strike against iran at any moment plus warning king of violence, president biden tonight saying he's concerned that the upcoming election won't be peaceful and playing nice for president trump appearing next to the very popular governor that he wants it's called a bad disloyal guy. what he's saying now, let's go outfront erin burnett live from tel aviv and outfront tonight. the breaking news in the dark. cnn is learning tonight that the u.s. is in the dark as to whether israel plans to strike iran's nuclear facility he's as a top us state department official tells cnn, quote, this is on the edge. that top official telling us exclusively that the israelis are so far keeping their plans to retaliate, which could happen at any moment extremely close to the vest saying, quote, we hope and expect to see some wisdom as well as strength. but as you guys know, no guarantees. well, israel is at
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war and more strikes against tehran could change the ark of history. i mean, these are many of iran's known and most important nuclear sites. places where the country assembles and spin centrifuges and riches nuclear weapons grade uranium, and stores that highly enriched uranium, often hundreds of feet under the ground striking any of them could have massive and unstoppable consequences and that is why president biden has said publicly he does not support israel targeting iran's nuclear program. but to hey, he went even further than saying no nukes. he actually tried to take energy and oil off the table be thinking about other alternatives than striking oil fields but those words, at the moment appear to be falling on deaf ears i mean, again, that top state department official says israel is not sharing its plans close to the vest, even with its closest ally and the country which will be called upon to defend israel and deal
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with the consequences the united the states. >> and this isn't a war far away from the u.s. not even now. it isn't just that it could spread with disastrous consequences. it is also that tonight as we speak, american troops, lives are on the line. there are 40,000 in the middle east where we are right now and they are targets right now. just listened to the chants that broke out when the ayatollah, i look, committee was leading friday prayers airs in tehran today before tens of thousands of people ourselves and tehran tens of thousands of people though chanting it now, that is the tone and the mood. the iranian supreme leader in that rare address today, pounding the war drums and he praised the october 7 terrorist attack on israel. it's one thing he did. he backed further strikes from
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tehran on tel aviv, like the one days ago here. and as the situation is quote, on the edge israel tonight is also pounding the drums, continuing to bombard the two-and-a-half million persons city of beirut a city home to half the population of lebanon. and that's where we want to begin tonight with ben wedeman. he is there and ben, you have been seeing and hearing and the worry and the fear that so many their hands i have i know there was a strike in southern beirut just a short time ago. what is happening there and what are you expecting in these next hours ten minutes, we've had two warnings from the arabic spokesman for the israeli military published on twitter or x and following just a few minutes later, one of those strikes happened on the southern suburbs of beirut and another happened a few minutes later. >> and now we are waiting for the other shoe to drop the
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before the strike to follow the latest warning came in just about ten minutes ago, and this has been the pattern night after night. now, i was in the southern suburbs the other day. i can tell you most of the inhabitants have already evacuated he did there's still a lot of young men whose really tasked is just to keep an eye on people's apartments in houses and whatnot but what we're seeing is that hezbollah, when i went to the southern suburbs, they were actually conducting a tour of various strike sites where these israelis had hit. and i spoke to one of their senior spokesman and he told me that despite the recent assassinations of hassan nasrallah and so many other senior officials that they still have all of their missile arsenal intact. he said they still have their leaders the ship intact. we don't know who that leadership isn't this point because they haven't officially announced new leader but what we are seeing is that despite several days of intense
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israeli strikes on the south of lebanon, that hezbollah still functioning there. they're still firing rockets to israel and their fighters on the ground who are experienced a guerrilla fighters who fought the israelis in the 2006 war they fought in syria alongside the regime of bashar al asad. they are putting up some stiff resistance against the israelis and we are hearing initial reports that there or more clashes on the border this evening, apparently, what's being described as a serious incident down there. we don't have the details yet, but certainly indicates that hezbollah, despite taking a beating, is certainly still able to give some back to israel. aaron >> ben wedeman. thank you very much. in beirut and exhausted city where you getting warnings just to be clear eyed, everybody it's 2:00 in the morning. if you're looking at
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twitter for warning saying to evacuate, you can understand the situation and how difficult that is where ben is. jim sciutto is with me here in tel aviv, obviously, south of beirut, general mark hertling also joins us jim, let me just start with you. when we talk about this imminent strike that. israel is determining its targets and keeping very close to the vest even from its closest ally. there are a lot of strikes. possible strikes that israel could hit inside iran, nuclear stray, nuclear locations, oil installations, the actual regime itself, which a lot of people in this country have been pounding the table saying, this is our moment to dip ahead. the monster as they see it. can you walk us through what these targets? it's could be, perhaps a combination of some of these targets. >> let's begin with nuclear and there are multiple nuclear sites around their, around iran. and by the way, that's deliberate because they don't want them all in one place because they don't want it easy to be taken out, their facilities to be taken out in one blow. let's zero in on one of them in particular, is for
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khan this is a nuclear research facility production facility is for isfahan in the central part of iran. they produce uranium metal key to the production of nuclear warheads. if, if iran were to go that path also centrifuge parts, what you need to produce the uranium enriched uranium to here's a nuclear weapon. what's notable about this is that in april following iran's last major missile barrage on israel, when israel did retaliate, it was isfahan, not the nuclear site, but a air defense installation around isfahan that was israel's retaliation at that point. and that was deliberate because they were showing we can reach out and touch you there right. in the event that we were to decide that it's a big place, but we can be very specific. so i, you know, to show that point, they can they can pick and choose within the range to do so. and by the way, to carry out an attack on a site like that, you would have to take out the air defenses first.
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another option is to go after oil oil facilities, oil refineries, et cetera. i want to talk about one in particular that is cargo island cargo is an oil export facility. this is where 90% of iran's oil is exported through. here. so this would be an enormous blow to what is around number one source of raw revenue around sends out about 3% of world's oil. that's 2 million barrels of oil a day. it's not the entire market to sliver of the market, but you know, oil markets well, if you take out that percentage, that's going to have an impact on oil prices. so certainly an impact on, on world oil markets, but also potentially the world economy and the u.s. coming, right? >> and both of those sorts of strikes would certainly move the lines forward and change the game in terms of what's on the table to talk about escalation in general, hertling. that's the big question. if your prime minister netanyahu and his war cabinet tonight, making these, these final decisions what do you do for targets like jim just laid out what kind of
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force, what kind of weaponry will israel use in these potential strikes first of all, erin, you have to look at the target package and jim and i talked about this earlier today. >> what will israel go after? a variety of target packages you've named a couple. i would name a couple of months how about weapons construction facilities, places where they build ballistic missiles and even the drones that are becomes so prevalent in not only the attacks on israel, but also the sale of drones by iran to russia for the attacks on ukraine. would it be hurtful to ukraine to not i worried so much about the energy production facilities. but in fact to hit their main weapons facilities to places that build the weapons. and that's why i think that the president said what he said today. you can hit an energy facility either oil or a nuclear power plant, or some of the other stories which facilities that iran has. but what would be more damaging in
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terms of iranian potential in the future? there are two main proxy groups, hamas and hezbollah have been very damaged base. >> the israelis have basically destroyed hamas they've taken out 25 of 27 ions in the gaza strip. they are now going after hezbollah. they know they have a lot of missiles there. they don't want the resupply of those weapons when you get back to your question was what would the strike package looked like it depends. it depends on what they're going after. if its weapons facilities, those are strike fighters going in with a lot more than just aircraft that are dropping bombs, you have to have fuels, you have to have intelligence gathers jammers, and electronic warfare, aircraft to pave the path for a bunch of fighters to go in and bomb the locations you're talking about and depending on the target, if it's a software target, if you will, like jim said, cargo
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island, it's very easy to bomber a storage plant or a storage facility for oil. it's much tougher to strike some of the nuclear capabilities that iran has had in the past because they are mostly deeply buried in the mountains and they are very well, yeah. part takes a much bigger package >> i mean, that's that's the thing. all this has to be planned out, right? isn't just, you know, what ron did that when they fired the missiles here was, you know, pick a missile package, put your targets and go, i'm not saying that simple, but israel is going to be combination of different fighters in different planes and different bombs and missiles. i mean, it's a more complicated project. >> what are those flight crews at risk as well, right? well, as you gotta get those assets there and get them back safely right? >> now, when you talk about oil facilities, nuclear facilities, there's also been and we referenced this a lot of talk in this country about what they believe is a once in a generational or more opportunity to take out the leadership of iran for regime change. they've shown they can do it with hezbollah. they've shown they can do it with her
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loss and they want to do it with the leadership of the iranian government itself and that's, of course the most extreme option would be regime by the way, part of a public discussion in this country, whether the leadership decides to go that way. >> that's certainly part of the public discussion here, but, but there were options short of regime change, which has not even clear they could accomplish, which would be to go after military command and control, specifically the irgc, the iranian revolutionary guard corps, which is essentially the regimes military arm, right? and this is one of the right heart headquarters, right? into iran, a heavily populated area. but of course, israel has not hesitated to go after targets inside heavily populated areas. we're seeing it beirut now, we've certainly seen it in gaza one could make a connection here if you're israel to the attacks that took place a couple of days ago here, that that center is is a command and control center for those very strikes. so you could draw a direct line between the strikes on tuesday
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and that as a potential retaliatory target. >> incredible. though a strike within in the heart of tehran itself and certainly something they're capable of doing. but again completely changing the game. general in that context, the top state department official today telling cnn that israel's not assuring the u.s. they won't strike nukes that they're keeping their plans close to the vest obviously, the u.s. is on the hook for whatever israel does for the repercussions of it, the u.s. is expected to be there. are you surprised that they're not more sharing? does it say anything to you at this point that there is not it does said something to me, erin, and it says to me that our allies are being increasingly wary of sharing intelligence with some of the officials in government and it's not just the united states since across world, operational security is critically important in these kind of strikes. >> as soon as you tell us someone the potential of a leak that would damage the potential for targeting just rises
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exponentially. and i think that's what a lot of our allies are doing. we've seen the ukrainians go into kursk. they didn't people whether they're gone, we've seen strikes inside of beirut by the israelis and then now the incursion and then the southern border it's just probably best if military plans and operations are not shared by governments with other governments until you really have a trustful i, i believe that there are some in our government that know exactly what's going on and they have inside information, but they're certainly not sharing it with others all right. >> thank you both very much. obviously, as a top official said, on the edge tonight here next, trump has never been shy about his feelings regarding the governor a bad guy, is a disloyal guy
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potentially hand in hand with brian kemp plus a cnn investigation tonight. >> and how tim walz handled multiple fraud scanning including the largest covid-19 fraud scheme in the nation. especial outfront investigation. plus president biden tonight revealing new details about paris's role when it comes to the growing crisis. here in the middle east >> depression symptoms were in my way i needed more from my antidepressant remark, velar to an antidepressant is clinically proven to help relieve overall oppression symptoms better than an antidepressant alone. >> and in very large clinical studies, most so no substantial impact on weight elderly, dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke report unusual changes in behavior or suicidal thoughts, antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults report fever, stiff muscles are confusion as
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block party a party every spread rafael romo at the georgia state capitol in atlanta. >> this is cnn you're looking at live pictures. >> this is fayetteville, north carolina. that's where former president trump right now is taking questions from voters at the town hall and as he speaks, vice president harris earlier today, slam timid her own event, which was in the must-win state of michigan that was just a couple of moments ago. here's kamala harris. what of the little fatter always failed to deliver america lost nearly 200,000 manufacturing jobs when he was president making donald trump one of the. >> biggest losers
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president, steve contorno is outfront at trump's town hall right now. >> so steve, what have you been learning fort liberty, which is the largest military installation in the world. >> so tonight's event is full service members and military families and veterans. and the program has been focused on a lot of their issues and concerns effect the first thing that former president did upon taking the stage here is promising to change the name of fort liberty back to fort bragg named after a confederate general. and he has talked a lot about other military issues and he has said that he would build an iron dome like israel has over the united states and would allow people back into the military who left over the covid vaccine. of course, we're also in a state that has been deeply affected by the hurricane. and donald trump can tinubu to bash she
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administration's response. take a listen to what he said earlier this evening shouldn't be anywhere else. >> they've given you lousy treatment to north carolina, a particular and we don't like that, so we're going to let it be known then they have to get a lot better will be in western north carolina tomorrow surveying the damage there and also point going out, erin, that donald trump earlier today was in georgia with the governor there, brian kemp. >> and that was their first appearance together since 2020 as donald trump bash the administration over their response to the hurricane, brian kemp had no bad words to say about joe biden or vice president harris very much, steve. of course. right now with the foreign president at that town hall. alright, everyone is with me
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now. maria cardona. let me just start with you because you heard the vice president speaking at her own rally in michigan, right. to targeting these crucial must-win states, whether it's north carolina or georgia, or michigan, wisconsin, this is where they're spending their time i'm pennsylvania. so maria she's focusing your time right now, was talking a lot about the economy. is that what she should be doing? i'm doing focusing in on policy that's an area she's gained ground but still lags trump absolutely. >> erin. and you hit the nail on the head? she is gaining ground. she's closing the gap, which means that her policies and her messaging are getting through to the exact voters that she needs to gain these are people who didn't really know her all that well, didn't know her biography. and were the ones who wanted to hear more specific on policies? well, that's exactly what she's giving them. she's giving them specific policies as to what she is going to be doing every single day during her administration to help middle-class families working class families, as she always says, not just get by, but get
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ahead to expand their economic opportunities in an opportunity economy, and importantly, she's making the congress trust with donald trump, who speaks a good game, but his record is a complete and total failure. i think it was very smart of her to point out those specifics in michigan where six plants closed auto-making plants closed, while donald trump was president. so that contrast between somebody who talks bluff a stir and fearmongering and retribution, but delivers nothing instead of her who's going to be focused on actual policies and delivering to middle-class and working class families. i think that's working for her okay astead you know, a lot of this is about getting your base out to vote at this point, right and regardless of what they're saying and who's going to do, what about what policies are they're actually going to put forward that they're go ahead with that. >> they're putting forth. it's about firing people up and harris was has a lot of energy on the campaign trail. she had a lot energy today here's how she'd finished her
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speech to voters in michigan and you look at trump and you look at their bases, right? we know the base is fully supportive to the candidates, but which base right now, as you can tell from the polling, from what's out there, which base is more fired up where turnout is going to be higher? >> i think there are a lot of good signs for democrats when it comes to the consolidation of their base over the last several months, this has been the big impact of the switch from biden to harris is a shored up the democratic
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coalition and has given them good signs and a lot of the places that they were lagging. but i think it's a hard question to answer because this is the reality of a 50-50 tied race. it is going to be about the execution of who gets their base out. and i will also say that the harris base is composited of voters who vote more frequently. are we know more consistently come to polling than i think the trump base is. they're targeting more low propensity voters. they're targeting young men who don't oftentimes come out in the same number because as other groups, they're trying to target people who may only participate in presidential elections. and that's a little bit of a harder task than what the harris what the harris coalition looks like. i think that's the reason why, although we expect these battleground states to come down to one or two points, a lot of our modeling shows harris having a slight advantage. it's the makeup of the electorate great that she is looking for is one that we know comes out most clearly that's the impact of trump losing out on the suburbs. that's the impact of charm kind of having a coalition of people who has been steadfast against him. the question for
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him is, can he change the electorate to bring out people who are only more likely to vote for him >> so governor polis is a big, a big question for the former president, right? and so he, he used to do things. he didn't care if he even said things that upset his base because it didn't matter. right. so for example, the georgia governor brian kemp, that he said he was disloyal and terrible and a loser and all these kinds of things, right? but now today he's down there appearing with him first time since the you know, he trump tried to get that at one extra vote in georgia four years ago. this is the first time they were together. and, all that stuff about being disloyal bad guy, turncoat, coward, disaster that is not what we heard today. this is what we heard today thank president trump for coming back to our state again for the second time to view storm damage and keep a national focus on our state as we recover, ryan. thank you very much. you governor is
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doing a fantastic job. i will tell you that >> no, no, no, it's great. now, we worked together. we've always worked together very well to you is just a very simple one. >> everybody who likes kemp in georgia where he is very popular, knows that trump has said it all these horrible things about it. they all know it, okay. and then they all see this today. so they understand this is political expediency at some level, does it matter? i mean, is this going to work for trump or is it too little too late? >> well, erin, if flip-flopping are changing positions where disqualifying factor for candidates, we'd have no one to serve in congress and no one to run for president or vice president. so let's be clear about that. this is just one example of political expediency all over the board but it unfolds in the context of a crisis post-hurricane were genuinely governor kemp needs help and empathy and understanding from national leaders, including former
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president trump. and so those comments i think in that context were real, but let's not kid ourselves. vice president harris is flipflop on a bunch of important stuff most of them do and it's just what they do they're politicians >> i think we can all acknowledge that you know, but of course when it's about a person and it's personal people care about people. people remember those things and can be very specific. i mean, you maria, it's one thing to say that maybe people trump the trump base won't by this sudden love of camp, or maybe they will, maybe they won't, but it's interesting. i think you believe that this could actually be bad for trump, but i actually could hurt him to now have been so friendly to camp, how calm? why would that be well well, first of all, let me just say there's no both-sides-ing this issue. >> i'm sorry. there is no one that flip-flop on a personal level like donald trump he is saying these great things about governor kemp today. i wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow he is back at calling him a coward and a trader if he
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doesn't think that governor kemp is doing what donald trump wants him to do. there is no one at that stratospheric level of not just flip-flopping, but of utter insulting and using people for their own self-interests. so i had to underscore that. but to your point i do talking about how much he loves governor kemp people see through that. now, let's be very clear. nothing will change with his base, right? he was very clear from the beginning. he could go shoot somebody on fifth avenue and his base will never leave him. but georgia and all of these other swing states have people that he needs to bring into the tent that he is not doing. he is not going to bring in independent suburban voters. he's not going to bring in people who are undecided, okay. with the kind of hypocrisy that he is using
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now towards governor count governor it's not nonsense. i mean, you look at vice president harris's comments over the arc of time, including implying presidential debate in 20 less time they ran when biden and her were on the stage together and planned president biden might be racially insensitive and then it turns out to be his vice president so that's a bunch of come on, governor. it's not the same thing absolutely not the same thing. >> and you know, it go back and look more than flying. >> it was racially insensitive there. all of you. thank you very much. i appreciate it. and next minnesota governor tim walz tonight defending his handling of multiple fraud scandals under his watch. this is a special cnn investigation and it is neck plus vice president kamala harris wants to be the change candidate, but is that message working especial conversation tonight with james carville
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faces widespread criticism for her latest conspiracy theory, the congresswoman posting this as the death toll from hurricane helene now rises to at least 213 lives lost. >> saying quote, yes, they can control the weather. it's ridiculous for anyone to lie and say it can't be done, right? implying that there was a plan to do this with a hurricane, just an hour after that post, vance had these glowing words she's been a great friend of mine she's a loyal person and you guys have a hell, a congresswoman here and marjorie have an outfront investigation tonight about governor tim walz looking at the criticism that he is facing for his handling of multiple fraud scandals in minnesota under his watch, killing lah is outfront every spin of the wheel and the
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never walz booth i'll let loose, but the democratic governor i never want to see that man in office. it's not just partisan wedge issues, dry i think republican disdain for tim walz step around the corner to the minnesota republican party booth. >> it's all about national politics at the republican state senator mark quran, like the rest of the country, is in the presidential election. >> but when the minnesota governor in his sights, i think governor walz, if you might say about accountability, has taken no accountability. >> quran says, while national voters may just be learning about coach walz and his affection for football and home improvement here in minnesota. the news has been more critical especially around the way walz's ministration handled financial scandals at least 16 reports critical of specific state agencies for allowing alleged fraud, waste, or mismanagement during walz's 60 as governor had been published by minnesota's independent
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auditor. >> he is the executive body in charge. right. >> and can you blame them individually for each individual thing? but he took absolutely no action to change the outcome. there was nobody that was terminated because of the failures of those agencies. >> lisa damon is the republican minority leader in the minnesota state legislature we have an issue of fraud here in the state of minnesota that we have half $1 billion in known fraud under governor walz, his time in office. and you're talking about feeding our future. >> that's one of them. yeah. >> beating our future. a program overseen by minnesota's department of education was the single largest covid-19 fraud scheme in the nation according to the department of justice, nearly 250 million in federal tax dollars was supposed to go to feeding children and need instead dozens of people involved in the scheme stole the money, buying houses luxury cars, and a suburban bar and
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restaurant according to a federal we'll indictment at the time, governor walz defended his administration. >> we caught this fraud. we caught it very early. we alerted the right people this past june, the state legislative auditor's investigation found that the minnesota department of education's actions and inactions created opportunities for fraud failed to act on warning signs and did not effectively exercise its authority to hold feeding our future accountable. is that fraud? the governor's fault? >> when he is not holding any commissioners responsible, then yes. governor walz is responsible for the fraud that has been ongoing in the state of minnesota by not making any changes within his administration, then yes, it falls squarely on his shoulders national republicans now sends a political vulnerability and the democratic ticket. earlier this month, a republican led house committee issued a subpoena demanding walz produced documents on the feeding our future fraud. it will be a test carefully watched and walz's home state
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loy's analyst who covered nearly three decades of governors and moderated waltz's gubernatorial debate. i know both of these gentlemen pretty well. there's been further audits that show that this isn't the only place in state government where there's fraud. like is he interested in the seriousness of running state government and being accountable? or is he more interested in being popular it is nearly six years as governor walz has gone from prairie populist or catching fish now to managing the pandemic contact tracing do you now running for the second highest office in the u.s. when we fight we such a meteoric rise that olsen recently wrote is walz really ready? >> i would be honored. madam vice president. >> ultimately, he's the decider as the governor and the state of minnesota and there's no clear evidence on how he makes his decisions, but there is a track record of not being
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decisive in the critical moments of governing, but walz's supporters that the state fair say it is unfair to hold him responsible. well, for the fraud of others i certainly don't blame governor walz worried nor do i think he has sat back and once it was exposed, let it continue as governor walz has fallen i don't think so. he's honest. he's real tim walz as a hurt walz tells cnn that state agencies have implemented suggestions from the state auditor and sometimes they disagree with the auditor's findings. adding quote, we are constantly evaluating ways to eliminate fraud and improve government programs that spokesperson also added that the walls it's ration has beefed up oversight of the department of education and spent millions to add staff to help root out bad actors. >> aaron and such important information to have out there with all that
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investigation. thank you. >> and next, new reporting on how israel expected the united states expects the united states to help with its retaliatory strikes on iran, not just to be okay with it, but to actually participate one of the top reporters in the middle east will be outfront with this new reporting after this plus james carville on his fiery, decades-long marriage to a woman from a different party talking points like you do check check, check >> he can't write this tomorrow at seven on cnn doctors recommend colaio stool softener for gentle dependable relief from constipation. >> it's so gentle, doctors even recommended during pregnancy and after surgery please increases water in the stool, making it softer. so it's easier to go? no harsh laxatives, cramping, restraining, colaio guys got
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trump just moments ago, urging israel to strike iran's nuclear facilities, mocking president biden for cautioning israel against doing that very thing. they asked him, what do you think about what do you think about a iran? would you hit around? he goes as long as there aren't hit the nuclear stuff that's the thing you want to hit, right? hit the nuclear first and worry about the rest later worry about the rest later. >> and president biden did say a hard know when it came to hitting anything nuclear at all, that's a stark difference. it comes as the region is on edge israel is preparing its strike on iran, which could come at any moment, joining me now outfront, ronen bergman, staff writer at the new york times magazine, who has covered the middle east extensively for decades. so ronen is as you were here and snell to 47 in
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the morning. so this is just in the past few moments when trump just said this about the nuclear strikes, i mean, that is about as stark of a difference as you could possibly get. and one that is going to be very loudly heard here so i'm not the next politics, but it seems that it's this strike you contradiction because it's the contradiction and maybe choosing to do so. >> but few things. so, first of all president trump, during his presidency, did not hit what he calls the ducks. but iran doesn't have nukes. they have nuclear facilities that have dangerous potential to produce nuclear weapon if and when they decide and if and when they have the knowledge and the capacity to do something like that. the second is that since he decided president trump to withdraw from the nuclear deal, iran has major hugely forward towards the ability to produce one and not backwards. this is directly connected to respond
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to trump's decision. the trump's decision to do so and i'm not sure that israel or for that sake, the u.s in its current buildup, military buildup in that area and following how deep the nuclear sites are how fortified they are that both countries, of course, israel, have the capacity to actually cause damage beyond words, there's also the ability to actually do, which is crucial. >> i mean, the how deep they are under the ground and that even with things like bunker buster, all the techniques that's their that it, that it's simply may not be possible at this point. i mean, that's that's crucial. you have new reporting tonight, ronen, and that is that some israeli officials in these days, as they've been readying whatever this strike is that they thought the united states would help them. and i don't mean help them after the strike be prepared for what comes next, help them in the strike itself. that is a hugely significant thing. >> and i was surprised just
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before the iran attack end immediately after there were many israeli officials who said the u.s. will help israel not just in the defense. so intercepting ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, drones, et cetera, as they did in april, on april 13, that voted. and just this week but also in the offense attacking iran. now, this is crucial militarily because israel is far away the capacity to run long campaigns against iran from air, of course, from entity possible. it, israel has limited capacity. the usaid could be crucial if israel wants to run a long campaigns. but the israelis, i don't know what they were basic this. now, all israeli officials understand if at all the us might be helping with the refueling the aerial refueling of the aircraft but not more. and probably not even then in probably not even that well from ronen. thank you very much. insignificant whether the u.s. would help with even the
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solomon in new york and this is cnn documentary looking at the push by legendary political strategist james carville to force his party into replacing joe biden as the 2024 nominee. >> well, we all know how the rapid pace of history that happened. the documentary also focusing on the 1992 election where carville was the brain he's behind bill clinton's winning campaign against george says more of the same, more than joe biden versus donald trump and james believes the change wins. we reached yesterday just yesterday he is
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he is so yesterday, if i think a yes, if i think of an open calendar, the george bush change theme it is well being echoed by kamala harris as she's trying to make that case against donald trump so just the other day i sat down with james and i asked him if change was actually working as a winning argument for harris lecture, a really different because she represents she's to preference. he's to pass the, dichotomy i like better. right now, if fresh works is stale we've seen this for eight years. we've had this, you know, can we do something a little different? and, you know, it's sort of hard for her to run is a true agent change because she had been vice president and the current administration, but i do think that she has more of a freshness toured and he does. i think she's a loan he's
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eminently very predictable you know what what he's gonna to say, crazy stuff but i liked the fresh, stale do you how much of it for you at this point in your life, james is about winning. >> i mean, that's gotta been a part of it, right? you want to win and you want to find a way to win. do you feel like at any point you ever lost sight of what you were fighting? for or was that always present for you you know, there are people would politics or do feel good. >> you know, this, well, we just spent a people, it's a shame. we lost i kind of notion for tip that. if you don't win yet done anything all right. in you can have all of the arguments and the back-and-forth. you want. i've never felt superior losing a political rights. >> one of the people with whom you have had the most arguments your wife the domestic ones that we can all relate to the political ones the documentary and what i find the most compelling is the
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two of you and always have that you could sit there and so vehemently disagree about things that so many of us found see as so court who we are and yet still love each other and have two children together, raise those children with such love. you made 1992 and the george w bush campaign while she was working for the doorstep, hw bush campaign, i'm sorry here's what mary's own world. and i locked that kiess just a wonder it's like a wonder of nature but so it's a hurricane. it's a nice, he just had to batten up the hatches hurricane pass by that's love of 30 years but the moments that people like me
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saw and i always wondered what was behind the curtain were moments like these unlike republicans who have instantly done the honorable thing and not even remotely similar situations, he's he's a kid let me say. >> yes, that he would resign. i never speak to him again for the rest of my life. >> well, good. >> well, he doesn't maybe i'll never speak to you again saying if gauff from the vast right-wing barista to the vast right-wing talking points to talking points, like you do check, check, check only manufacture and flagrantly lie about conservatives of all stripes on radio off the arm when they had this elitist thing i'm honored to have a national dialogue. nascar safe with him >> how do you love someone? and also feel that way about them? that's what everyone wants to know. >> so many people are married,
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they don't like each other's him harsh okay. so is it harder to be married to a woman that he politics or he mother? i hope somebody would be lucky. i didn't get married. i was 49. somebody should be as far as it is is to find somebody debt really care about, appreciate take of people in politics and you think that's the sum total of what they are. she's actually very good beekeeper. she's a great gardener great mother. she takes her to kids and, so she's a physical. so i think it's somewhat of a polymath she can do a lot of different things and i kinda appreciate that you know, if she was to homecoming queen red button, the american guide and motor monomeric at home >> and you hit the jackpot on that. well, it's great to see you, james has always. thank you you bet
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