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and i'm jessica dean in new york. now, just 30 days left until election day. donald trump and kamala harris remain deadlocked. and what's likely to be the closest presidential contest in modern american history today, trump campaigning in the battleground state of wisconsin, hoping to flip that state after narrowing narrowly, losing it to biden in 2020. meanwhile, the harris campaign is kicking off a week long media blitz with high profile interviews and campaign events in arizona nevada. let's go now to cnn's harry enten, who's at the magic wall for a deeper look at the state of the race. what is the state of the race, harry, let's start nationally. >> let's start nationally. i don't know about you, jessica, but i am getting the hankering for some double meant gun because there is no movement. there's no movement going on here. this is the harris versus trump margin. you look where we were a month ago. it was harris by three look at where we are today. it's harris by three simply put this race hasn't

moved. it has been continuously very, very tight. and one way you can get an understanding of that, as i want to take you through history. all right? campaigns were any candidate held a lead of at least five or more points in the polls were going to go all the way back since 1,964 most campaigns, most campaigns, at least one candidate has led by five points or more, at least three weeks. in fact, all 15 of them from 1964 to 2020 if you look this year, there have been zero days, count them zero days. we're either kamala harris or donald trump has been ahead by at least five points in the pulse. in fact, you could go all the way back when joe biden was going to be the presumptive democratic nominee and even back then, no candidate led by at least five points in the polls. the bottom line is, this is historically close race and it's a historically consistent race. jessica let's talk about swing states. >> what are we seeing there? >> all right, so you know, we talk about these national polls, the national polls really don't mean very much, right? because it's all about those battleground states. and of course, let's take a look

at what i call call the core seven battleground states. all right, this is again your harris versus trump margin. and look at these great lake battleground states, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. look, you see some blue on this side of the screen, right? these are a little bit more friendly to kamala harris than the sun belt that we'll get to in a second. but look at this, a one-point advantage in pennsylvania, two points in michigan, two points in wisconsin oh, well, within the margin of error, too close to call, you come over now to the sunbelt battleground states, you got a little bit more red here, trump up by a point in north carolina, arizona, georgia, nevada, harris holding onto a one point advantage. but again, very, very tight. so what does this mean for the electoral map? alright, so let's take a look and say, okay, a man if the polls match would end up being the results perfectly, right? that's probably not going to happen. but for the sake of this exercise, let's do it. what we see of course has harris carrying, let's get some green font here. there we go, carrying all of these great lake battleground states wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, and then she also carries nevada. but you see

again, trump, arizona ana georgia, north carolina. look at this. kamala harris gets to exactly 276 electoral votes slightly more than the 270 she needs to win. donald trump right behind the 262. but the bottom line is jessica at this hour, this race remains incredibly tight. we've done these segments over the last month. this battleground map simply put, really hasn't changed. maybe yes, slight advantage to kamala harris, but one erase that remains way too close to call and you're right, it is remarkable how consistent it's been in that i also am curious what if the polls are off? there have been previous elections, of course, where that's happened what if that happens? >> what happens if the polls are slightly off? remember back in 2020 the polls underestimated donald trump. so what happens that we have a similar error cost across those key battleground states? well, if that happens again, look at this donald trump carries all of these great lake battleground states. he carries nevada as well. of course, he carries arizona, georgia, and north carolina, and he gets to get this 300 312 electoral

votes. so the bottom line is if we have an arrow like we did four years ago, donald trump is going to win this election. kamala harris is going to lose. but here's the thing. everyone always says, oh, the polls those were off in 2020 there going to be off this year, not necessarily because what happens if the polls were off, like they were in 2022, which of course was only two years ago, those midterm elections. well, then we put all these great lake battleground states right back in a kamala harris has column, she wins in the southeast and georgia, north carolina. she wins in arizona, and she wins in nevada and then it's a harris blowout, 319 electoral votes to donald trump's 219. so the bottom line is this. we are at this point right now where the race is so tight. but even though it's so tight, don't be surprised if either one of these candidates come election night in the days to follow him are counting those votes, ends up running away with this. the bottom line is this, this race is too close to the call. it really could go either way and the margin of error in presidential election polling when we have racist this close, are much wider than i think folks think right? >> right. and i think you

underscore such an important point which is that it is historically close and also if it tips one way or the other at the end, it could look like a blowout in the electoral college for one of these candidates, which is kind of a fascinating dynamic kind of built into all of this hearing. >> i know our founders who knew who i guess they thought they did. harry enten. thanks so much for that let's turn now to our panel joining me now, democratic strategists and former senior advisor for the bernie sanders presidential campaign. chuck rocha, and also with us does that republican strategist, katie frost, thanks to both of you for being here with us. you just heard harry there. this is a very tight race. it could go really either way. trump does appear to hold that advantage in some of the sunbelt states tonight, we've seen some star power for harris in arizona with actors like kerry washington and jessica alba, glenn close holding a block party to rally black voters in phoenix chuck, i just want to start with you it seems

like we are reaching the point in these campaigns and 30 days out, it makes sense where the surrogates are out. last night we saw but elon musk with trump in pennsylvania, we're seeing some of these actors out in arizona. this is where we are in this race. it's now time to get out the vote you're still right jessica, i was watching you inherit and you inherit were exactly right there on that last point, particularly, which is about the momentum at the very end. what's happened, i'm one of the very few people who's actually run one of these presidential campaigns. and at the end, it's all about that little bit of vote, not that's undecided, but that you need to turn out that's where we are today. they spent a year going out in identifying democrats and republicans who are going to vote for them or for the other candidate in pennsylvania, for example and now they've got to go get those that were in the middle that they have to id and then persuade to turn out so easy surrogates. you see star powers, you see all kinds of stuff going on about getting out. the vote gotv and our and harris was exactly right but in these battleground states, it's going to be every vote

that will count and it will probably come down to folks that have newly registered who weren't even eligible to vote in the last election because they were too young, because pollsters aren't talking to them because they don't have a voter history. so they're not a likely voter. and i think that's how tight this election will be. >> yeah, that's a very, very good point. and katie, you go state-by-state and again, both parties both campaigns trying to reach these voters that maybe didn't vote before. our young and weren't able to, whatever the case may be. i know republicans are really proud of what they've been doing in pennsylvania, et cetera, et cetera. how do you see the gotv kind of landscape for the trump campaign when it comes to these battleground states won live in one of those battleground states. >> i'm a native of georgia. i was actually in a trump force 47 office just yesterday. i was talking volunteers. they were making phone calls and they were getting ready to go out and knock boar's. i get text messages almost every day from people i know on the ground, the different states telling me what they're hearing at the

doors at a really great conversations to just like i said yesterday, wasn't people been out canvassing and they said what they were struck by, is that people who are not the typical republican voter are. leaning towards supporting president trump and just because of the number one issue for them is the economy and when you talk about the economy to these voters, they may not have voted before, or maybe they voted differently in previous elections. but they know the economy was better for me under president trump. i'm going to get out and vote for him this time. >> we are seeing a lot of fifth on that one issue in particular, in the demographics and the traditional candidates she's okay. that's not going to be someone votes for republican. they're looking to revoke public in this time, and i couldn't agree more gotv. that's the world i come from that is the name of the game right now, you have to not only get out the voters who you know will vote for you, but it's the people who you've idea that they would vote for you, you're aligned ideologically, but they just don't vote very often you'll hear from the left, you chipley to be more like the newly voters in the republican

politics. you're looking at people like hunters and a hunting license, but they don't vote. >> they'll have people you're looking for. >> yeah. and chuck, to that exact point we saw vice president harris appearing on the hugely the popular podcast, color daddy. today, it is one of the most listen to podcasts among women it focused a lot on reproductive rights. her interview did i can play a clip. let's listen to it at a rally in pennsylvania, former president trump recently told women, you will be protected. and i will be your protector. what do you make of that hand selected three members of the united states supreme court with the intention that they would undo the protections of roe v. >> wade. and they did just as he intended, they are now 20 states with trump abortion bans including bands that make no exception for rape or incest, which we just discussed, which

means that you're telling a survivor of a crime of a violation to their body, they don't have a right to make a decision about what happens to their body next which is immoral so this is the same guy that is now saying that this is the same guy who said that women should be punished for having abortions this is the same guy who uses the kind of language he does to describe women was just saying right now is about trying to find those people who you think would vote for you and motivating them to actually vote as you were also saying too. >> and so two things here you see the vice president sitting down in a non traditional space years ago, we probably wouldn't see a presidential candidate podcast, didn't exist you know, decades ago. but, but in this kind of more nontraditional space, not a political shell, clearly trying

to reach female voters that maybe haven't engaged here with an issue they think will work in their favor you know, i'm lucky enough for my farmers working on 26 house races and three senate races. and i'll tell you that to say that across the country and all of these states, when it comes down to the very end, let me pull the curtain back it puts you in the room of the strategist. it comes down at the presidential level on who you like and who you trust everybody who cares vehemently about an issue or an issue, one issue, pick your issue is the thing they've made up their mind. there may be one or 2%. i think that's even a lot of folks that are undecided who really care about an issue. so when you talk about trump and who you like, that's one getting very personal in these podcasts is really matter because again, it's about motivating people to vote at this point, democrats are worried about folks showing up and not voting, not voting for donald trump. >> we've got the votes we need to win were worried about folks who stay home, who are working two jobs who may be too busy. >> and that's what this comes down to. did they hear the podcast that move them because

they really liked her or they trusted her, or they don't like or they didn't trust donald trump and katie, i want to ask you about a dynamic that i had isaac dovere, my colleague on his new reporting that the harris campaign is trying to distance the vice president from president biden in these last few weeks of sometimes aren't does imitate life. so we have an snl clip kind of underscoring this will watch mama. >> it's joe biden. >> i can't talk right now. tom, i'm not here. no, no. he's in the room >> got to make. a grip biden in 2020 i. mean katie, when snl is doing that, i don't think it's a great secret. >> but again, isaac trying to underscore over reporting and underscoring just what the harris campaign is trying to do. they said that one of the best moments she had at that

debate was when she said clearly, i'm not joe biden obviously trump and jd vance would very much love for her to be tied to joe biden. how do you think they're doing and do you think there's there's obviously very difficult to distance yourself from an administration when your name is literally on the letterhead is the biden/harris administration. >> you and your number to and accompany and then you say, oh, i had no idea was going on. i'm not responsible for anything that happened people don't buy that. she's desperately trying to distance herself from president biden because look at all the polling data, the overwhelming majority of americans do not believe are headed in the right direction. they don't approve of president biden's performance in office. so she doesn't want to be tied to an unpopular incumbent president, even though she was his vice president. i think the trump campaign is doing the job of tying her to that and making sure people remember that the economy we're currently living in, which like i said, is the number one issue for voters, is directly resolve the

biden-harris policies. harris saying earlier, you you're worried about the people who don't go and vote because maybe they are working two jobs and they're busy well are you working two jobs because you're trying to make ends meet and the economy that was created by biden and harris, you're gonna go out and vote for harris? or is it a reminder of know, you were working two jobs and you're struggling because of their policies, is time to go to where the gray comment we had in for president trump and chuck, i can give you the last word. what, what are your thoughts on that we've seen polls move. >> harry made a great point that you've never seen anybody had my five points, but you saw joe biden losing by four points in your own polling in the last few weeks before he stepped out of this race. and now you have kamala harris up by three. that's a seven-point movement i don't happen every day in campaigns. this thing has realigned because she has done a masterful job to separate herself, to say there's a new time from people out there, a 59-year-old woman joining guess the oldest man who's ever solved the office. that's a real distinction and i give her team credit as a strategist because she's really making her own way and people from your

own polling says they're moving in in that direction. >> all right, katie, and check our thanks to both of you. appreciate you being here thank you. still ahead. israel's military is mounting renewed attacks on hamas in gaza. what we're learning about that new well offensive. this is israel prepares to mark one year since the october 7 hamas attacks and milton is now a category one hurricane. it is expected to get stronger hitting florida as a major cat three storm. this is the state is still recovering from helene. we're going to track it all for you ahead. you're in the cnn newsroom culture over the edge. >> people are watching and then our world change and an explosive reverberation tv on the edge tonight at nine on cnn our right to reproductive health care is being stolen from us. i can't believe this is the world we live yes. we're

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what you just asked shows us where we are a year after october 7, because what started as as the most terrible massacre of jews since the holocaust and turned into the bloodiest war in gaza, us history and the worst time for palestinians since 1948 has long completely different. we are in a regional war. the gaza war turned into the lebanon war and turned into maybe the war in the middle east. and i think this is where we are a year after october 7, and what are your sources saying as as the u.s. is in consultation with israel, as they can't weigh their options about what to do with iran. we know you have golan that is coming here to meet with lloyd austin at the pentagon what are you hearing about that i think it is clear

that there's going to be an israeli response the israelis are still discussing it yesterday. >> there was another meeting about the cabinet about the different options. it ended up in conclusively and the fact that gallant administer defense is coming to washington, i think tells us a lot about the timing i find hard to believe that israel will do anything before gland comes to washington and he is going to meet secretary defense austin, national security advisor sullivan, and secretary of state blinken it's clear that he's coming to do the final coordination so i would be surprised if anything will happen before and those conversations that gallant will have in washington will focus on two things, a, what kind of targets israel is going to

attack? and second, what is the u.s. and its allies around the world are going to do diplomatically to put more pressure on iran and there is this interesting push and pull. >> it's a dynamic we've seen play out over the last year, but specifically with this particular moment where the u.s it's not i don't like april when joe biden told benjamin netanyahu, take the win you know, after, after they struck back, leave it be clearly there is going to be a response. the u.s. government hopes that it is measured. they have their own ideas of what about what they want that to be and yet it appears israel and now fighting on multiple fronts doesn't seem to be in a place where there are 100% with a measured response, they may want to escalate what do you think about that dynamic? >> i

meaning there's no decision has been taken. and what you dethe israeli government and the white house, to be honest, are facing because i'm not sure that there's some, you know, huge abyss between the white house and benjamin netanyahu right now, meaning obviously the white house want a measured response, but it also knows that israel has to respond and i think many in the white house, including maybe present biden. look at what happened over the last few weeks in the region and also say to themselves, well iran took a big hit over the last few weeks because it's main proxy that it's built for years, for decades has been diminished significantly. hezbollah in lebanon, hamas and other proxy took a major hit and it doesn't really exist anymore

as a military the organization so maybe it is not such a crazy idea to also go directly against tehran i'm not saying this is a consensus in the biden administration. not at all. i'm not saying this is a consensus in the israeli government not at all, but i think that in both jerusalem and washington, there are several people in very influential positions who think that i mean, hearing you say all of that it it sounds like it is fair in your opinion to say that the last several weeks starting with the pagers in the walkie-talkies that blew up in lebanon with hezbollah members taken out. >> nasrallah and here we are now has really change the dynamic here there's no doubt there's no doubt and you know, for benjamin netanyahu

personally, i think, you know, he's, he's on a winning streak. >> both politically and strategically because both go together and for the iranian axis of resistance, the last few weeks have been a disaster and this influences the dynamics in the region. i'll give you one example. the main priority for the biden administration right now is to try news hizballah's weakness in order to push forward for an election of a president in lebonon, a position that was vacant for two years mainly because hezbollah vetoed any precedent which is not a puppet of and so the biden administration is aware because of the military success israel managed to achieve hezbollah that we can. now there's an opportunity to create a political change for the better inside lebanon alright, bro gravida, as always, it is great to have your analysis. thank you so much thank you still ahead. we

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does the newest information say it's still intensifying, still rapidly intensifying, it's a category one hurricane with 85 mile-per-hour winds. >> that's up from 40 mile per hour winds just 24 hours ago, that exceeds the definition are rapid intensification. it's sitting 800 miles west southwest of tampa as he continues to sit and he's very warm ocean temperatures in the gulf of mexico intensify because the ocean temperatures are so warm. we're expecting it to rapidly intensify. again, that's how it gets to a category four hurricane with 100 145 mile-per-hour winds by tuesday afternoon. now as it gets towards the coast, some of that intensity could teter south i mean, we could be borderline, either a high-end category three me without low-end category four as it heads to that west coast there of florida again, with some of that intensity getting shaved off a little bit. but notice the cone is still goes from cedar key to nepal's mean. we're still needing to kinda pin down a little bit better aware that ai goes. but

regardless, it's going to be pretty large storm or we'll have the outer bands of the damaging winds and the heavy rain across the entire peninsula. here the ocean temperatures i was talking about alright, that's why we know. we're going to get it to rapidly intensify again when it's in the gulf. but here's that spread that i was talking about, you know, in wear that exact i can go we're still watching this very closely. and the reason why there's still some uncertainty there is because there's a front that sitting just to the north and that's what's kind of pulling in helene into i'm sorry milton, it's pulling in milton into florida. that at front depending on where it goes, will either pull it farther to the north or kick it's out this front is also what's giving it some of that wind shear which can pull down some of that intensity as it gets closer to the coast so again, continuing to intensify across the gulf of mexico, it heads towards florida. there by wednesday's when we're looking at landfall, will find some of the outer bands coming in already by late tuesday at landfall of that i on wednesday, no matter what the winds do, what the intensity

dies, it's going to string out incredibly heavy rain some four to eight inches of rain, some totals up to ten to 15 inches possible the goal on already saturated grounds, jessica does not look good. >> all right. elisa raffa. thank you so much for that and joining us now is hillsborough county sheriff chad chronister, hillsborough county, of course, including parts of tampa which you see there on the map, appears to be directly in the path of the storm. sheriff. thanks so much for being here with us. >> thanks for having me i know tampa's mayor is urging residents to evacuate so far though mandatory evacuations have been ordered in your county? >> do you expect that to change in the coming days absolutely. i think tomorrow we'll start issuing those mandatory evacuations. we want to give people at least 24 hours amount of time to get to that safe that safe area, even if it's outside the evacuation zone. another part of florida anywhere to keep them in there? family safe. >> and how strictly will lose be enforced. and also, what is

your message to residents who are thinking about maybe just writing this out yeah i think they've all learned. >> we've all learned from hurricane helene that they need to heed the advice we've gotten lucky, even with this cone of uncertainty, and it could go a little north, it could jog a little south, but that's why they call it the cone of uncertainty. we know we're going to feel the effects here in hillsborough county here in tampa, florida. so my advice is heed the warning. if you want to gamble, there's plenty of avenues to do that, but don't gamble with you and your family's lives. please take the necessary precautions and make sure that you relocate somewhere else and this is such a unique moment because florida, of course, is not a stranger to hurricanes but we have your residents still recovering from hurricane helene. >> and now another ones on the way, these aren't small events can you recall another time like this? >> i can't in my 33 years here

here at the sheriff's office, i've never seen flooding like we experienced with hurricane helene that they've seen 103 years ago. we're still recovering worse still healing from hurricane helene and now we're getting prepared him back in store mode again, asked and acumen community to take the necessary precautions. this isn't a time to panic. it's just a time to get prepared, get those essential items, and keep you and your family safe it is it is remarkable to hear you say in your 33 years, you've not seen in flooding like this we know that these storms just are getting really powerful out there over the gulf. >> those really warm waters are really fueling them. and i heard your governor ron, to see qantas talking earlier today. he was really worried about the storm surge that that is really what they are concerned about. it sounds like just more flooding and an already waterlogged area and that's the difficulty here which raining right now, we have a lot of saturated areas. we have

some water that's still hasn't receded from the last storm from our daily rainstorms, it's been a busy rainy season, and now we know, regardless of where this hits, if it comes to tampa south or north, we're going to feel the effect thanks. yes, the wind's going to hurt because all the trees that will fall down, a lot of our residents will lose power, but it's always storm surge that's the killer. the storm surge than you think, okay, less i can ride this out and then it comes a little higher and it comes a little higher, and then it's too late and we've lost too many residents because they thought they'd be okay. okay. once you have that moment, that you realized that it that it's not going to be okay then sometimes it's too late. we've conducted over 1,000 rescues this last storm with our amphibious vehicles are marine assets working with hillsborough. county fire rescue, 1,000 rescues. that's 1,000 rescues that the men and women were happy to do. but it's just unnecessary rescues if you heed the warnings. so to answer your

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harassment, at least 1,840 incidents of vandalism, at least 150 incidents of physical assault. now there's long been this question about whether anti semitism is under-reported in this it's country i've talked to security officials all the time. we say that there's almost certainly this large number of these incidents that occur where people don't actually report them. but that has to change. adl says, take a listen, hear their ceo, jonathan greenblatt was on with our colleague, dana bash this morning on cnn, state of the union, saying that people have to report when these incidents happen. have a listen this is why adl has mobilized the way we are. and if people i got to say something, if you see something, say something, we need people to report incidents. we need people to speak up. we should not be afraid in our own country now, these high level of numbers from adl seemed to track with what we've heard from the fbi, which obviously enforces federal hate crimes laws. they keep statistics of their own. i want to play for you sound from fbi director chris wray. he spoke just after the october 7

attack talking to members of congress and describing how jews represent this outsized proportion of hate crimes at the fbi investigates uniquely uniquely targeted by pretty much every terrorist organization across the spectrum. >> and when you look at a group that makes up 2.4% roughly of the american population it should be jarring to everyone that, that same population accounts for something like 60% of all religious based hate crimes learning that the fbi, the department of homeland security, has issued a public advisory warning that tomorrow the one-year anniversary of october 7, along with continued middle east turmoil, could serve as motivators by extremist for acts of violence here in the u.s. >> they didn't point to any specific or credible threat, but they are warning people to obviously be aware of, be

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moment of fire broke out under a frontier plane as it made a hard landing in las vegas saturday, the pilots noticed smoke in the cockpit cockpit on the flight. that was arriving from san diego, airline officials say the tires blew out on landing all hundred and 90 passengers and seven crew members were safely evacuated and no injuries were reported. the faa has now opened an investigation into that incident tonight. its new episode of tv on the edge, it takes you through what it was like during ellen degeneres coming out are very dramatic moment on television vision in 1997 men in america were shocked when elon decided to have her tv character elon come out as gay while doing the same thing in her real life, it was risky and it broke down barriers and lit the spark for realistic gay representation on television. and in the media. >> here's a preview >> you talking about straight writers writing a coming out episode we'll get to see it. so like yesterday, remember, it

was like this is so cool. >> and yet this is going to kill this shut. >> it's going to be all four. >> yes, like i thought, this could be the end of our careers allen hood, her entire career at stake she could have lost everything. we do not want the gay and lesbian lifestyle paraded in the living rooms of americans homes. >> you what they, gay people did not exist. they very rarely showed up on tv. >> i remember as a young gay kid, being so hungry to see even negative portrayals because it meant that there were other people like us joining us now is producer, writer and professor david seville who worked on the show elon. we just saw your clip there as well walk us through your initial thoughts. when allen said she wanted to come out on the show? >> you know, she had us over her home and we're all having lunch all the rioters and this

whole new cast of characters we were all whole new staff there and and she said, guys, i want to make an announcement and we all kind of like put down our sandwiches and she said i want to come out here coming. >> we all looked at each other and i remember that initial thing that moment of thinking this is so cool or this is totally the end of the show. and i didn't know how it was going to go. i mean, but that she started at this was she started the ball rolling. this was her call on the whole thing it is amazing that really all things considered wasn't that long ago when this happened and it was considered so earth-shattering, right? like you're saying, you didn't know that the show was going to have to go away after that. i would have to think that you all were very aware of how how big of a deal this would be, how this would live in history you know

what, funny enough. >> we didn't honestly we had no clue. we for her. she had she made this decision. she had to state her case to abc, to disney and we all walked in those offices with her and she did all the talking and we were there to backer. i was an exact producer along with several other rioters and and then when we got the go ahead and it started the ball rolling we had no clue not a coup that this was going to blow up as big as it did. we just thought we were doing an episode in fact, they asked us when we wanted to err the episode, we were doing a season of 26 episodes you'd think that we'd want to do it during sweeps and take advantage of

that, but we didn't we put it on the third to last episode of the season because we didn't know what it was not a publicity heart. it came from her heart and then it blew up. it just the last send the noise and the letters and the bomb threats in it just blew up. we had no clue. >> it's certainly certainly did. it was quite a moment devin seville. thank you for walking us through that. we really appreciate it. be sure to tune in a new episode of tv on the edge moments that shaped our culture airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific on cnn you don't be focused on that, will be right back i voted king it's like your generation has evolved past traditional political symbols. >> and there's room for everyone yeah

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