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it's monday, october 7, right now on cnn this morning. >> one year later, israel marks the somber anniversary of the october 7 hamas terror attacks the fights a war now expanding to multiple fronts just plain false debunking the rumors, the fema administrator setting the record straight about the response to hurricane helene as the trump campaign pushes false claims and this if you are in evacuation zone, leave in the storm's path, florida's gulf coast, preparing for another major hurricane as they're still reeling from helene's impact. >> and later families come in all kinds of shapes and forms and their family nonetheless, pushing back kamala harris dismissing right-wing criticism over not having biological children

east coast. a live look at capitol hill on this monday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us a sorrowful anniversary lives lost during the october 7 hamas terror attacks, and holding out hope for the safe return of the hostages still in gaza. it was one year ago today a saturday, thousands of people gathered for a music festival near a kibbutz. the music, the celebration that joy shattered by the sight of rockets in the sky attendees ran looking for safety and instead found unimaginable violence as thousands of hamas terrorists invaded israel from gaza members of hamas and its allies killed 1,200 people, wounded, thousands more hundreds of others. they kidnapped, forcing

them back into gaza 12 months later, more than 100 still remain in captivity in the year since that day, israel has sought to destroy hamas airstrikes and ground invasion of gaza, leaving more than 41,000 palestinians dead israel is now fighting iran backed terror groups on multiple fronts in gaza, in lebanon, and in yemen. the region and the lives of those in it forever alter by an attack that the israeli president today called a scar on the face of the earth one survivor of the massacre at the music festival described what it was like to return to those grounds today it's been a few times since then. it's like leave the less moment with them again, the healing process is no it's something that you can finish in one day. it's that has no magic that can heal that

wound and but we are strong. we have each other all right. >> our panel is here. alex thompson, cnn political analyst, national political reporter for axios, isaac dovere, cnn senior reporter, kendra bark off as secretary to joe biden and matt gorman, former senior adviser to tim scott's presidential campaign welcome to all of you. thank you for being here. i actually want to start with you on this kind of somber incredibly somber anniversary. we obviously speak all the time in terms of you are having worked for the white house and for president biden, but you've also done so much work with these families of those who were taken into gaza on this horrible day. what are your reflections having gotten to know? so many of these people about what happened that day, what those families are feeling right now, and what happens next yeah. >> i mean, they've been living in agony each and every day for all of them, there are seven americans that are still being held hostage in gaza there are more than 101 total that are being held from around the

world. different ethnicities, different races from different countries. and i think the thing that is so remarkable is how these people get up each and every day and fight to ensure that their loved one is still remembered. that politicians are still paying attention. you know, they have met with president biden twice in person. they'd met with him and zoom. they have regular calls with jake sullivan, with brett mcgurk, and they keep in contact with each other. and their number one goal is to keep this in the news because that is the only way in their minds to continue to keep pressure sure. on bibi on qatar, on egypt, because hamas is really something that you know, it's sort of an enigma. and in so many ways they're obviously a terrorist organization and they want to ensure that their loved ones are brought home and they'd go out there and they do interview after interview, they keep the hope alive which i think is incredible i don't know how they do it to be honest with you and end it as a remarkable thing isaac dovere. this is

obviously stretched on this, this war in gaza has stretched on for a year as israel has tried to destroy hamas and there have been times where it seems as though these hostage families have, have been very three unhappy with benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister of israel, have tried to put pressure on him to do more to bring them home and at this point, of course, we're now in a they're in a three a three front war in the middle east with the administration backing them up, but not seem to be able to really pressure them to act in any different way that they may want to. i mean, what are your reflections which are reporting about the state of things inside the white house and on this issue joe biden has been pretty clear that he's very frustrated with benjamin netanyahu and has not been able to get him to agree to evil in come close to agree to a ceasefire or an end to the hostilities last week the white house felt pretty good that they kept the iranian missile attack from escalating into so

much more but that is the range of victory that we're talking about when it comes to how the biden administration is looking at this and it's obviously then a difficult thing politically for them, but it is an incredibly difficult thing. national security terms. and what all this is, we are in an unprecedented situation. this war is the longest war that israel has ever been in it. we do not know where things might end up with iran any violence between israel and iran is not a good situation. and obviously there's what's going on in lebanon now, this attack on hezbollah and the way we can forget, because it's not at the forefront of the news every day that the fighting continues in gaza and that 100 hostages are still being held. and that i don't think it's at times the hostage families have been frustrated and now i think it's almost every day that they're frustrated and netanyahu and that in some ways

that the american political discourse overlooks the fact of how much of israel as opposed to what netanyahu is doing. >> yeah, it's a very interesting point alex thompson of course. we were just talking to david sanger in the earlier in the show and he was looking at how this is overlapping, right on top of the presidential campaign. this conflict potentially exploding with less than in 30 days to go. i mean, how are each of these camps? i know you cover you've talked to campaign aides and operatives every day preparing are thinking about the possibility that this could explode here in the final weeks. >> yeah, this issue divides the democratic party. and so what you're seeing is that kamala harris is trying to straddle both those sides. the party she met with muslim and arab groups in michigan and a private meeting last week. she's going to speak out about october 7 this week in her 60 minutes interview. that's premiering tonight. she has also basically saying that we are allied with the israeli people, but not necessarily allied with netanyahu. now, donald trump has basically said, i want an end yahoo, not only not to

deescalate potentially escalate and get it over, as he said quickly, know democrats argue that could then further spiral the conflict know it's true. >> i mean, like for what for how much? of course october 7 changed the middle east also changed washington and a lot of ways. i mean alice is right the gop largely aligned behind netanyahu in israel. and we're seeing right now that 60 minutes, at least the clips that have leaked out from commentaries is interview they, are tonight, really put those divisions on display in terms of the allied with netanyahu or the israeli people also air answer on whether or not she was able to influence the israeli government i thought were very interesting and somewhat incomprehensible, but really that is stark terms of displaying a lot of it when we talk about electoral politics, result in the michigan vote in other places too, right? yeah. i think that this can be simplified as arab americans in michigan are. they, are, they could be definitive in that way, but there's it's also where a lot of jewish americans that are not aligned with netanyahu, israel's sterilely some are, some aren't but even

in the way that joe biden and kamala harris are approaching today, you see this playing out where they are going to be separate. >> they will not be together. joe biden is doing a ceremony. the white house, kamala harris is doing a separate ceremony at the naval observatory. he's lighting candles. she's plan to get tree. they are not together. that is not a mistake. >> it's really interesting same all right, coming up here on cnn this morning, our coverage of the one-year anniversary of the hamas terror attacks on israel continues. senator kyrsten gillibrand is going to join me live to talk about how the year since the attacks have shaped us politics plus back-to-back major hurricanes, florida's gulf coast, preparing for another strong storm and in the wake of hurricane helene, disaster politics take center stage these moments of crisis bring out some of the best of who we are can be a bit of a bad, didn't and you know, it's largely a republican area. so some people say they did it for that reason

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america is awesome. >> italy july, if you read it penguin's streaming exclusively on max unprecedented response we are deeply grateful for the federal resources that we have fema has been on the ground with us the very beginning of this in the wake of hurricane helene, at least 232 people have lost their lives across six states north carolina has taken the brunt of that toll where flooding left at least 117 people dead and many still others still unaccounted for state and local officials from both parties have praised response efforts from fema so far. >> but online misinformation and rumors are swirling about the storm. some of the rumors also being pushed by donald trump on the campaign trail kamala harris has this is the worst response to a

storm or a catastrophe, or a hurricane that we've ever seen, ever probably worse than katrina. and that's hard to be, right president biden responded to some of these claims online over the weekend, he called donald trump a liar and said his administration is quote, moving heaven and earth and quote, to make sure states get what they need republican north carolina senator thom tillis was also asked about some of trump's comments this weekend about the federal response in his state we have the resources that we need. we're going to have to go back and pass more resources. we can have a discussion about the failure of this administration' 's border policies and the billions of dollars that's costing. but right? right now, not yet. is it affecting the flow of resources to western north carolina it is not an a effector. >> to be clear. okay not at this time. interesting okay,. panel is back. matt gorman, i mean, trump is out there saying these things, kind of putting

it out there. officials, republicans and democrats on the ground are saying this is not the case. they are getting what they need. you heard thom tillis there again, republicans say that. now that said the scenes that are still occurring and they are still doing rescue operations, parts of north carolina which is a difficult reality for this sitting administration, terrible, terrible look, and i think the biggest critique of this whole thing is very clear. >> joe biden, kamala harris failed to recognize that level of the storm at first, right? you had joe biden at home and we're hope rehoboth, he had kamala harris still raising money out in the west coast. they acted kind of physically optically late to recognize what it potentially damaging the storm. this could be. and also, i think that is kind of where my critique lives. it seems like trump beat them there in terms of being on the ground just like you've got to do with east palestine with the train derailment in ohio. a couple of years ago, and it just seems like trump has a little bit more of a keener eye for the pure optics of these sorts of things than they do i want to jump in here though

because i do think a sitting president and a sitting vice president, there is something to be said for not taking resources away from those things that are being done on the ground, especially given the fact that they still are doing the critical things that they need to be doing of rescuing. >> you don't want to get in there too soon, but you want to get in there soon enough? i would also just add that the hypocrisy here that trump is doing you know, he withheld dollars from puerto rico until the very end. fema, there's there was talk of the california wildfires and asking those people, voted for him before he gave money afterwards. i do think there's some major hypocrisy going on with him as well as house the administration looking at this right now, i mean, do they do they feel like this is something that is a threatening them politically. the fact that north carolina and georgia, these are battleground states. >> yeah, why they would like kamala harris to win them there approach to it has been largely to focus on the emergency response. i said last week on this program and we'll repeat

it that i do not think that that makes any difference to the actual rescue operations to have anybody go and visit. it's just about the theater and the visuals and whatever. it didn't matter that donald trump was there, didn't matter joe biden was there. it didn't matter. the kamala harris was there on saturday. they have to focus on actually rescuing the people on the recovery on getting people things like diapers that they need or the homes that they're going to need for the next couple of weeks, at least but that they this does get tangled up and other things i mean, i had to store over the weekend that got into how some of this is about the joe biden and kamala harris dynamics one of the things that's going on here is that joe biden went earlier in the week, which made kamala harris have to delay her own trip to north carolina until saturday and that was a point of some tension. during the white house and the campaign because though i can sit here and say this is all theater, it is theater that people pay attention to that matters. >> have you been paying attention that dynamic also?

>> oh, absolutely >> yeah. i mean, clearly, joe biden's still wants credit for like you saw when he came out on friday and he was like, all these things are going great. he made a lessee said like jobs report everything else, and then kamala harris, his messages like we still have more work to do and there is tension between mean those two things. >> yeah, that's really interesting and i think, i think snl even hit on that. this weekend will wash some of that later on the program, right? coming up here on cnn this morning, florida now preparing for another strong hurricane two majors back to back-to-back. that is not something that is easy that creates a lot of challenges hurricane milton expected to make landfall as a major hurricane. >> the urgent warning from officials plus one year after the hamas terror attacks, israel now fighting a war on multiple fronts.

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>> derek unfortunately, you've gotten a strengthening hurricane for it. what are folks in florida set to be prepared for here? >> look, this storm has already rapidly intensified yesterday at 5:00 a.m. it was at 50 miles per hour. kasie now it sits at 100 mile per hour. sustained winds. so it's gathering strength and it will continue to do so until it makes its way towards the eastern gulf of mexico, where it could go undergo some weakening, but that is still it'd be determined there's a clear defined eye on this in the bay of campeche. i'd is kind of an erratic motion to the east southeast. this is new as of 5:00 a.m. update from the national hurricane center. we do have hurricane watches in place where you see that shading of pink and watches for tropical storms intensity across the big bend and into the florida keys he's but this is what the area we're really focusing in on tampa bay in particular, we know this area so vulnerable. here's the official forecast track. this is important. it has slowed down considerably since yesterday when we were talking about the storm. and we do

anticipate a land landfalling major hurricane sometime late wednesday into early thursday morning now, so that's stalled well by about 12 hours, very important information there as well in terms of the preparation ahead of the storm, this is the first initial storm surge forecast from the national hurricane center. i'm going to point this out eight to 12 feet near tampa bay. that is higher than the actual realised storm surge values from hurricane helene, not to two weeks ago that set record values here for this region. so we know that there is still destruction and debris on the ground. so this is something to consider as well. it's raining already ahead of the storm, flash flooding will be a major concern along with the traditional tornado threat that comes with landfalling hurricanes kasie, a busy week ahead all right. >> really tough stuff indeed derek, thank you very much for that. are coming up next here on cnn this morning, israel at war, how the violence in the middle east is shaping the political landscape here in the u.s. new york, senator kirsten gillibrand joins us plus cnn anchor chris wallace is here to

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than 100 of those hostages are still held captive and israel finds itself at war on multiple fronts hitting hezbollah targets in beirut and its southern suburbs with more airstrikes overnight. while also continuing its fighting in gaza, strikes on sunday, damaging a school and a mosque, killing at least 26 people two people were injured in israel after hamas launched its own rockets from gaza israel also hitting houthi targets in yemen, all while the israeli war cabinet considers how to retaliate against iran for last week's deadly missile strike shana year ago, we suffered a terrible blow for the past 12 months. we've been changing reality from egn to end. the whole world is astounded at the blows you inflict on our enemies. and i salute you and tell you, you are the generation of victory together, we will fight and together we will win with god's help all right, let's bring in cnn anchor and chief national security analyst jim sciutto. >> he's in hostage square in

tel aviv. jim. >> good morning to you on this somber day. how is israel marking this anniversary and how does it? fit into the broader geopolitical situation confronting them right now hostages square, i'm reminded has actually been 366 days since october 7. >> this was illegal here, 300 366 painful days for israel, but certainly most of all for the families of those who were lost on that day and the families of those who we're still being held hostage, there. and i'm joined now by one of those family members, ming-hao miao, whose cousin to hone, you can see her here was captured morning of october 7. she actually turned 31 while in captivity activity i have to say my heart goes out to you. >> how do you and the rest of your family manage a day like today? to be honest, we are taking it day by day. there is nothing that we can be repaired

phone we never thought that this would be a year and today a year and two days i think we just trying to hold on and be strong we don't know if she's alive or not. we have had assigned from her like nine months ago. but if she's alive, we need to stay for her. we're waiting for tell me a little bit about so she's such a good heart. so she's such a shy and she loves animals she practiced twitches when area nurse yeah. she loves animals. she loves a friends. she loves to cook she's my youngest cousins. she was thursday when she was taken and she's not 31. she had their birthday on march. >> she's such a kind soul and we are very much worried about

her you could see him in her smile speaks volumes. >> and you can only hope she doesn't celebrated another birthday. there are suffer through another birthday. there as you wait for her freedom what would you like to see to get her home, to get a hostage and ceasefire deal to get her home i think that us as families we say everything in all costs, there is no cost for life. >> i can't even bear the thought that she will pay in her life for our safety here in israel. i want to be safe here and i'm sure everyone wants to be saved, but she's my cousin she's an innocent civilian that was taken from her home on october 7. she needs to be back. she needs to be back alive we keep getting news of hostages that were murdered in

captivity, and we can't bear the thought that she would lose her life. there well, listen, we can only hope that you get good news in the coming year and we appreciate you sharing your story and some of the from story. >> and her smile. and i'll tell you as we've been covering this case, either there may be lots of debates in this country about next steps about war in lebanon. the coming attack on iran. but 11 issue of agreement here is that everyone once hostages like doron home and home soon indeed, jim sciutto. thank you very much for that interview and our heart goes out to her and to all of the families that are affected by the aftermath of that terrible day. >> alright, let's turn now to this vice president kamala harris and former president donald trump will both commemorate the anniversary of the october 7 attacks here at home today, trump attending a memorial in queens harris sets a plant of memorial tree outside her residence in washington one year after the attacks, both candidates face a

political environment fundamentally shaped by the israel hamas war and its strained one of the u.s.'s most enduring alliances and made some of the country's most intense political divisions even more apparent. you put trump back in the white house. you're not going to have all of that stuff is going to heal october 7 would have never happened. the attack on israel would have never happened. >> do we have a real close ally in prime minister netanyahu? >> i think with all due respect, the better question is, do we have an important alliance between the american people and the israeli people? and the answer to that question is yes all right, joining us now is democratic senator kyrsten gillibrand of new york. she is a member of both the senate intelligence and armed services committee senator gillibrand, i'm very grateful to have you on the program on this somber day. i know this is something that you have worked on quite a bit meeting with some of these families as well as focusing in on some of the horrible sexual tool violence

that we saw on october 7. what are you reflecting on today? and what needs to happen going forward well, today is a very somber day. it's been a year since the horrific terrorist attack that hamas perpetrated on israel and we mourn with the families to still have not seen their loved ones returned, who are still being held hostage by hamas. >> there are people who are waiting for even the bodies of their loved ones to be returned. so they could have proper burial including new yorkers and so it's a very, very rough day, i think for the jewish community in new york around the country and i think we just have to remember that what happened on october 7 was brutal. it was horrific. it was the most barbaric terrorist attack. we've ever experienced and it's something that is very difficult to resolve

because without the hostages returned, with the continuing attacks from iran, from hezbollah, it's a challenge and we as new yorkers stand in solidarity with jewish families across this state. >> senator, you heard vice president harris, they're answering a question about whether or not benjamin netanyahu is an ally of the united states there. and she talked about the people of israel being allied with the people of the united states. do you think benjamin netanyahu is an ally of the u.s. >> we are very strong allies of israel. and the israeli people have their own elections. we believe in democracy and we stand with israel and these terrible times. we don't always agree with elected leaders on different policy positions or how they may approach any given decision. but i we stand with israel and i think we have to, as a democracy, support our greatest friend and ally in the middle east and trying to preserve that democracy to try

to help israel defend itself from the terrorist attacks that are being perpetrated constantly. the fact that israel has had to defend and itself against hundreds and hundreds of missile attacks from multiple terrorist groups, including iran itself is a very tough our for this country. and we should stand with them senator at president biden has said that he doesn't think that iran or israel should strike iranian nuclear facilities as retaliation for the most recent rocket attacks. >> do you agree with the president or would you be comfortable with israel making a strike against iran's nuclear facilities now, to take the advantage of an opportunity as some israeli officials have called it horrific war perpetrated by hamas as an opportunity for any country. >> and if you listen to the families who have been suffering, i mean, just the most recent missile attacks

from iran, i think hundreds of thousands of people had to take shelter and bombs in bomb shelters the fact that this country is living under this threat of terror over and over again is very difficult i would never be so crass as to frame any of this as an opportunity kennedy nobody wants war and their country, and no one wants a world war. and so the challenge for israel is how do they stop iran from launching missiles on its people and if they believe that their best military action has to take out the production of nuclear weapons or the production of any particular military asset that's a decision that israel will make its a decision that president biden will give his advice and guidance to an ally and our military will give advice and guidance, but the united states does not want a greater escalation into a larger conflict. but we do know

israel has to take certain actions to stop the terror attacks 1,200 people died a year ago innocent people who were celebrating a concert, young people. if you were in the qubits that was hit hardest children were taken, babies were taken, grandparents were taken, people we're slaughtered. >> the death toll was in comprehensible the sexual violence perpetrated among on the women was the most horrific use of sexual violence in war time that i've ever seen are witnessed. >> i've seen footage, i've seen the photographs taken by hamas hamas to celebrate the terror they rot on these innocent people and so to keep israel safe, it's going to be very difficult and choosing your targets is not easy and it is something that israel takes very seriously. and i am i'm quite certain that president biden will be in constant contact with the israeli

leadership, as well as their military decision-makers about what targets are going to take all right, senator kyrsten gillibrand for us. >> it's a somber day. i really appreciate you being on the program. i hope it come back and happier times thanks, kasie all right. >> still ahead on cnn this morning, this year's election, just 29 days away, and has been unprecedented in let us count the ways. kristen wallace joins us to talk about his new book detailing the 1960 campaign and how that race parallels our current political climate. plus kamala harris kicking off a new strategy this weekend and as we head into the elections final stretch i think that increasingly you know, all of us understand that this is not the 1950s anymore struggle with cbp app. you should check out, inspire. now,

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the united states the presidency is the most powerful office in the free world. through which leadership can come a more vital life for all of our people in it are centered the hopes of the globe around us our freedom and a more secure life january 2, 1960, then said on f kennedy announced his candidacy for president in a move that would ultimately usher in the modern era of presidential politics. his campaign against richard nixon would be defined by highly watched televised debates private planes, sophisticated advertising, and ballot results that had nixon's republican allies claiming that the election was stolen perhaps that sounds familiar as cnn anchor chris wallace writes in his new book, quote, in the end, what stands out is that in 1960 with the most powerful position in the world at stake. and what the difference between victory and defeat on a razor's edge, richard nixon chose to do the right thing. what was best not for himself, but for his country as we learned. so

painfully, that choice is not always guaranteed. joining me now is chris wallace, cnn anchor and the author of the new book, countdown 1960. the behind the scenes story of the 312 days the changed america's politics forever. >> chris, i'm so happy to have you. >> well, thank you for having me gradually my book. >> yes, for sure. >> so tell us, you know, he's kind of summed up what you're looking at here, but tell us what is the story of this election that had you interested in writing about it right now? >> well, it was, as you mentioned, kind of the first modern election. it was the first presidential debates period. and then they also were televised and 70 million people watch. and kennedy ran the first i think you could say, modern campaign. he had his own personal pollster, lou harris, who then went on to become the famous that he had his playing, that the family bottom, the caroline named after his daughter. he used television in a sophisticated way that it

hadn't been used up until that time and there's just a number of set pieces. the debates the whole question at one point margin martin luther king is arrested and kennedy and nixon have to decide they're going to try to intervene to get them out. kennedy does. nixon doesn't. i think that helped him a lot in some of the big urban cities. but the other thing that fascinated me about it is the parallels or in a sense, the differences to 2020 and after because there is some evidence that this election was stolen, there was a pretty egregious vote fraud. nela noy in texas. and nixon came under considerable pressure to contested. and in the end, he decided for a variety of reasons not to contest it. and in fact, on january 6, of 1961, as the vice president, he presides over the counting of the electoral vote, and he does it and declares john f. kennedy the winter contrast that to 2021 when mike pence is under

tremendous pressure to contest the electoral vote. and of course we get the riot the storming of the capitol. so it's an interesting story, but the point, i think it's most telling to me is exactly what you had in the quote there, which is back at 19 1960 and through all of our lives, the idea that the loser would contest the winter was on it

>> but he was 47. and as we know, he ended up having a long political career ahead of them. but part of it also was we were at the height of the cold war cruise. jeff was threatening the united states and to nixon, the idea of contestant who's the leader of the free world, who was the president of the united states and having them how uncertainty and going into the courts to contest it would have put the country in very bad shape. and he just wasn't gonna do it. >> so how would you compare donald trump and nixon this moment? >> well, the funny thing is you would get almost compare richard nixon, richard nixon because of course by 1968, i think he was pretty bitter and i believed that part of watergate was that he was so bitter about what had happened him in 1960, he came to the conclusion that all bets were off and you did whatever you could to win. and that led him

to avoid bad path. i think the astonishing thing is that agree to which not only trump has changed the norms, but the entire republican party as it now exists, which is certainly not the party of richard nixon, has gone along with them on that. >> well, because the party it was the party really that forest nixon to step aside and watergate, right? >> yes. there were the elders who came to the white house and said, you don't have any votes but now they know anybody who would say that to drop would be in terrible political trouble themselves, not trump indeed. >> all right. >> chris wallace, you're going to join us on this next panel. >> thank you so much for being here. thank you for the this book. is excellent. i highly recommended. i'm still working my way through it, but it's really fascinating stuff and it comes out tomorrow, right? tuesday? >> yes. excellent. alright. >> let's turn it back now to the 2024 race for the white house. and to this response from commonly harris to these comments from arkansas governor sarah, how could be sanders? >> so my kids keep me humble

doesn't have anything keeping her home loans making those comments at a campaign event in michigan last month, harris does have two step children, coal and ela through her tank in your marriage to the second gentlemen, doug m. >> hoff, in appearance on the call her daddy podcast released sunday harris described what she called her quote, very modern family they are my children. and i love those kids to death and family comes in many forms. and i think that increasingly you know, all of us understand that this is not the 1950s anymore. families come in all kinds of shapes and forms and their family nonetheless in a, statement to politico this weekend, governor sanders said this quote, i would never criticize a woman for not having children. the point i was making and that

kamala harris confirmed by her own admission, is that she doesn't believe our leaders should be humble okay chris wallace, this has this issue of children. i mean, that childless cat, ladies, it has start to permeate this campaign and you, and i've talked a lot about masculinity, femininity, and how all of that is also swirling through this campaign. how do you think kamala harris handled this? because reality is there are so many american voters who don't have families that look like mom, dad married for 30 years. >> what do you know? you used an expression in your late and you would use modern family, which was the name of a very, very popular sitcom. there were all kinds of families and i same-sex couple that are children and and other couples and in america in 2024, they do come in all shapes and sizes and their blended families and parents and step parents. and the idea of shaming somebody because she didn't have children. the old fashioned way. she had stepchildren it seems to me as really out of

touch with where the country is now. and not something that the republican party should pursue. >> i mean, it seems like a risk also of alienating. i'm just looking out of republicans who have stepped kids are i mean, you name it totally moderate families. >> that is exactly right. i also think it is super smart for the harris campaign to be going out there and doing all of these types of interviews and reaching voters who may not normally be paying attention to the quote, unquote traditional media, no offense to cnn. we love you, but, you know, she's going out there and she's talking to women there interview with cnn, i will say that she's getting there, getting their news from from podcasts like this. and i think it is super smart to be talking about issues like abortion and family and the economy in places where women are paying attention to, not in the normal mainstream. >> we looked you certainly it's a strategic shift and man it going out there more certainly tim walz in a sunday show yesterday, she's doing obviously call her daddy a couple of others shows, i believe called bear and others

some of the hosts or most of are openly supportive. she's doing cnn and we'll see we're actually 60 minutes, we'll see how that shapes out. obviously a more mainstream media, but it does represent both in tone and also just going out there more in this last for weeks the campaign, there's a they obviously feel a need. they need to get out there more and fill the vacuum. that wasn't being filled. >> i want to get to your reporting quickly, too, because you said this even into recent days and this is related to the biden-harris back-and-forth, right. people who've spoken with close biden advisers told cnn they've heard complaints that the president would be in the same spot or better right now, had he stayed in the race, several leading democratic operatives and officials laughed out loud when told by cnn about that sentiment with one veteran consultant even saying that's literally insane? >> yes. and this gets into a dynamic that harris is having to navigate here, which is how much to

>> felt like he had had a good week at the white house and wanted to go to the briefing room to talk about it they did not coordinate that with the harris campaign. the harris campaign found out about that a couple of minutes before he showed up. he showed up right after kamila harris went onstage in detroit. i can tell you that a lot of people on the harris campaign did not find that helpful by two in the next couple of days is headed thanks to angola and germany, it's not like a really pressing foreign trip. they estate a lot of people in high-risk campaign wish that he would maybe go away for longer this point, this is a tricky situation over this last month of the campaign where you see voters are saying that they want change from where things are paris has to embody and embrace that change and speak to that change, while also being a quasi incumbent and having donald trump and jd

vance attack her as if she has been the ones signing the executive orders. >> chris, what do you make of all this? >> well, look, the whole thing is awkward. i mean, they we had something that we'd ever had before, which is first i think it's pretty extraordinary. the whole thing i will agree, i think from the harris campaigns point of view, you that joe biden just kind of took the decks 30 days, whatever it is off, they'd be perfectly happy with that. i will. but this on this blitz, she should have started this a long time ago. this is too light. there's obviously a three-line among a lot of voters that they're picking up. we still don't know who this woman is. we don't know what believes, should have started this in august, but better no, not but but it should have started a month ago, but i do think it's a situation where we have a little bit of the bias towards what she is doing versus what