golfing buddy, this is a man who has invaded a sovereign country who is actually an enemy of the united states, who donald trump is having this relationship with while a sitting president is actually sending weapons to fight russia, while a sitting president is actually making sure that they're saying so, i think this undermines you know, the policy of the united states. >> we should know trump was holding on to top secret documents when he reportedly talk with voting and remember back in 2019, trump and his former a secretary of state john kerry, a violating the logan act for talking with iran as a private citizen, jonah, does it bother you that trump was reportedly talking to putin in private and private while he was publicly taking russia's side against who crime yes worries me less about this man crush that he has on putin, per say, though i agree, he's got

a troubling man crush on food and then more with the fact that he just simply likes dictators. he talks about strong men, men of will. he talks about, gee, you've talked about kim jong on in ways that do not reflect a sober appreciation of the american political tradition i think is a nice diplomatic way of saying it. and you believe he's anti-democratic because the thing that keeps on coming up over and over again, not only with january 6, but beyond that when he has these man crushes it says you put it with these dictators. >> is that the reason that he is so enamored of them is because you'd like to be like them. i mean, that is something that has come out in the political drama. >> i think all populous demagogues he loves democracy when it gets his back and he doesn't care about it when it doesn't write and he likes the idea that he's hugely popular. that's why he keeps thanking, saying he won california and things like that. either it's

like it gets to his state of mind as a potential commander-in-chief, then there was trump's interview with hugh hewitt, where cnn fact checker, daniel dale says, he told trump told repeated lies about foreign affairs in the middle of a cabinet campaign. kristen, do trump's falsehoods about foreign affairs, about the world stage matter? >> i think it depends on the scale of what we're talking about here. so i went through when i read this daniel dale fact check and some of them were just egregious, right. things that donald trump said that have no connection to reality and others things were things like donald trump wildly inflate the numbers of billions of dollars of equipment we left behind in afghanistan. trump got the number very wrong, but we did leave $7 billion worth of stuff and afghanistan or things like just say, oh, i got rid of isis in a week. well, he didn't get rid of isis in a week. but when he was president, they did get rid of isis so i think that's the issue, is that the a lot of times people will scroll donald trump and very justifiably for

saying things that are wrong. but underlying it is a level is a true principle in some cases that voters think, yeah, we did screw up in afghanistan let me press on this. >> at this point, are trump's sausage basically priced into how people lay does he? pay any price for no, no. and the misleading was talking about this my wife today, the word baked in as always everything is baked in with him, but not with kamala harris, which i think is really interesting. >> it's we were used to his lying, which says more about us than it says about him. he has done this his whole life i just interviewed suzanne craig. he's been lying about his taxes, about everything he does. i think more troubling is this continued discussion about genes and things like that. and, you know, people tend to compare it to hitler. many of our presidents have done that theater roosevelt, calvin coolidge, they had these points viewed are wilson, woodrow wilson of course but they're all dead. >> in another era to have a

modern president continuing to use the genes argument is disturbing to me. >> all right, now we're going to break some news because lulu, you conducted an interview this week with trump's running mate jd vance. that's going to run this weekend and the new york times, what's the headline we talked about many things, but the thing that i want to focus on is his comments about women because of course, as we've talked this as a gender election. >> and you'll be unsurprised to hear that jd vance doubled down on some provocative thoughts about women who don't have children. >> take a listen women who don't have children because they're worried about climate change. >> that's sociopathic. >> i think that is a bizarre way of thinking about the future not to have kids because of concerns over climate change. i think the more bizarre thing is our leadership who encourages young women and frankly young men to think about it that way i have to say, i mean, he's doubled down on bashing women and now we are

also going after the people who are concerned about climate change. >> yes. he managed to unify those two groups, climate change people and women who might not want to have children into a package this is something he clearly believes ai pressed him on this because his favorables with women are very low. his favorables generally are quite low. and he really doubled down on this idea that it is important for women in this country to be parents, to have children. he considers it, i think a moral duty and we've talked about many other things, including immigration the very robust discussion, jonah, what do you make of jd vance and his comments here and his effect on the gop ticket? well, since i'm in the right-hand salon chair, i will get his back a little bit on this i agree with him that whether you're a man or a woman the idea of not having kids because of climate change is silly and weird and are bizarre. and i think it's a, it's a, it's not a very compelling reason and it's actually not the reason why

most people aren't having kids anywhere in the world. that's just a made-up thing that said, it is also bizarre for the vice president who has got a gender gap problem to be second guessing why any women don't want to have kids one way or the other. it's just a weird reinforce that narrative. it's just strikes me as tone-deaf, creepy is the word we like to use, or weird. >> people in florida not only dealt with a deadly hurricane, they also saw an onslaught of misinformation. >> is there any way to stop it? then it's not what you say, but how you say it the so-called boomer trend and texting, that's got gen z all upset at nine on cnn? okay. ready to washington one second. >> i got it. finished my laundry. >> it's like one second. i use rents. wash rinse to the company that will pick up wash fold and deliver your laundry, dry cleaning up that testimony

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into florida, posing a direct threat to those impacted by the storm. i worry that they won't register for assistance with us and get access to the critical resources that they are eligible for. >> then there's this lie about aid for storm victims from trump's running mate, the harris administration has given billions of dollars to foreign countries. now, they swoop in and they promised $750.02 american citizens who have lost everything house these made-up claims tend to do. it went viral $750 when even cover two nights does hotel, in fact, that's $750, is just an initial payment to deal with immediate expenses before offering long-term relief. >> now, the white house is pushing back joining reddit and launching websites to counter the misinformation. >> we all know it's dangerous and the gamesmanship has to stop president biden center then a direct message to his predecessor, former president trump gets life man help these

people jonah is it, and i use this word advisedly, dangerous for trump and vance to keep bashing fema and its response. of course it is. i mean, they're, they're talking about death threats to fema operatives and it's it's at a time when we have people incredibly vulnerable and when actually americans and local officials, including lots of republicans who say this is all bogus stuff are working around the clock to save lives and help people. it's, it's appalling and look, i think the way the media and lots of people talked about hurricane katrina under george bush was outraged he just put a lot of that was just sort of groupthink stuff where people got carried away. this is people will deliberately lying for political gain and it's indefensible. these lies have real consequences for real people. >> some hurricane victims are not seeking assistance and check out this headline after claims that government controls the weather, meteorologist get death threats as hurricane conspiracy theories thrive,

lulu what's the impact when victims don't trust the government workers who are trying to help them the impact is that they're an even worse position than they were already as jonah said, these are people who are vulnerable. they've often lost everything. and if they can't trust the people who are trying to help them, then an even worse position than before. this is really serious misinformation that is being spread from the highest levels of the political operation here at this sinful, yeah, it's just information you the white house we talked about there on reddit and then you're setting up various websites is the white house doing enough to counter this? use your word disinformation. >> well, they shouldn't have to. that's the thing they're spent. they're wasting precious time killing with lies that are they doing enough? well, they're trying their best, but it's very hard to push back on disinformation especially when people are caught up in conspiracy theories. and even though everyone laughs at marjory, taylor greene's, they control

the weather. it's sort of like the jewish space. lasers kind of thing it's very hard to push back on these lies because they spread and people don't have as much information. and then you have a platform like x, which is allowing it to run rampant because he's trying to begin the big problem. just i'm sorry. the big problem briefly is one politicians do it, we have seen study after study that shows that when political leaders lie that spreads much more quickly and it's believed much i quickly preston, how effective can the white house be in trying to counter this disinformation when trump and other republican officials are saying, you can't trust the white house. i mean, good for them for trying, but i think if you are the kind of person who is following one of these conspiracy theorists on social media and is buying this joe biden is not the messenger who is going to persuade you that actually fema is here to help and so what i have been very glad to see is a lot of republican governors of

the states republican state legislators, local officials saying hey mr. trump this has to stop its going to have to come from with inside the movement in order to have to happen at all that's really the thing is a waste of time at a critical moment the harris campaign is running an ad hitting trump for his response to these disasters back when he was president i remember one time after a wildfire in california, he wouldn't send relief because it was a democratic state so we went as far as looking up how many votes he got in those impacted areas to show him, these are people who voted for you but lulu, i mean, to kind of continue the conversation from the last segment. >> is there any price anymore in politics for lawn is, is trump? going to be hurt politically in this campaign for the fact that he is spreading this disinformation about the government response for these hurricanes.

>> we'll see you in november, but my gut instinct is no. i think at this point unfortunately in this country, lying has become political currency. >> i do think there's one point worth making. we've talked for about the low-propensity in irregular voters. trump is not trying to get win over a lot of persuadables. he's trying to convince people who've already decided they like him over harris to vote at all, right. the choice for them is to stay home or vote for trump. and turning up the gain on this crazy stuff it makes it more likely that those people, and there are a lot more of them than persuadable people in the middle will actually turn out on election and to ask the question i asked, lulu, do you think he pays any price? >> i mean, the degree i mean, yes, i understand there are different eco chambers and we all get our news from different sources. but to the degree the word gets out there when he talks about $750, that is not the total aid. when he talks about females response, he's misrepresenting it does he pay any price i kind of agree with

lulu. >> the only way we'll know is after election day to see if the people who were outraged by it out number that people who are activated by it. >> as our public opinion expert, why? why doesn't it have an impact? why is it that people are going to take this information out on some level, whether they believe have not been told, it's not true about something really were not again, we're not talking about some abstract, we're talking about whether the government is really here to help you as the line goes so i'm actually disagree with lulu and jonah a little bit on this and i'm someone who sat in the seat for month after month after month and every time donald trump does something that's out there, i'm usually the one that saying no, i don't really think it's going to matter. the reason why this could be different is that disaster relief isn't the kind of thing that can break through to the kind of person that doesn't pay attention to any other political news or not watching rallies or any of that and so if something was going to actually cause them to pay a price maybe this would be it you know, what's not a ally, your chance to become an instant millionaire just got more expensive. but explain

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he was going to be on a world of warcraft twitch stream. and i'm very excited about this. i've been playing world for craft for ten years. i thought what's his classes he had made is he a paladin? >> it turns out he was not actually playing world of warcraft, but a twitch streamer was livestreaming the rally and providing commentary makes me think on election night, if not on this network, maybe i'll be at home playing world of warcraft in yammering about the election because he been whatever this game is, you play it whatever extent this game know chris i never heard of it. no. lulu, you have some cleaning up to do for your best shot about mexico's do president from last week, let's take a look at what you said last week we have the first female president in north america and at 8:00 in canada and at eight here yet, but it is in mexico. mexico has actually beaten us all so what's the problem? >> well, canadians i'm here to

apologize to you. i'm very sorry that i did not realize that in 1993 for five months, kim campbell was prime minister of your country. and indeed canada has beaten us all i should have known that a, but i didn't i'm sorry. and you let me know in sometimes not very kind ways online. and for that, for now, say that you are not actually as nice as people say you. >> i was going to say quickly, what's the meanest tweet you god always think that you're first okay? well, i'll defend lulu. here. you said president, they had a prime minister. those are different than, you know but yes. >> so anyway, tim waltz floated the idea and then immediately pulled it back that we should get rid of the electoral college. >> this is a, this time-honored thing on the left to say that it's undemocratic and it's terrible. i disagree with them on that. i think it's good but if you actually want to fix the problems that they think generates with valor beyond undemocratic, which will come

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