just needs a minute of your time of nowhere you next week for another episode i'm anderson cooper in so many ways, the 2024 election season has been unprecedented and unpredictable part of the unusual nature of the campaign includes hula end up as the presidential st wing for the see

after exiting four years ago. now, this has only happened once before in the country's history. and then there's vice president harris's husband, doug emhoff, potentially the first man to ever serve in this role. over the next hour, cnn anchor, kaitlan collins, who covered the trump white house as a reporter, takes a closer look at the history of the first spouse and how it may be redefined by the next person who holds that title. [audio logo] [water gushing] kaitlan collins: as a white house reporter, it can be easy to overlook the first lady. but that role and those who have occupied it, have long had a deep influence on the west wing and the country. it can be part diplomat-- - out of the royal coach steps america's first lady. wherever she goes, she is storing up a wealth of information to pass on to the president. kaitlan collins: --full-time campaigner. - their mother boards the lady bird special for a whistle stop tour of the south, where democratic defection threatens.

martha washington complaints sometimes feeling like a state prisoner because she was so observed and commented on as kind of a thankless job as a kind and if no wind job the role of first lady is typically included. >> white house traditions, like hosting world leaders, planning state dinners, and congressional balls easter egg roll to the annual easter egg roll

's china it's a way that the first lady can show her own preferences case exercise that soft power of diplomacy and politicking and being in charge of the white house, christmas decorations high pressure role filled with scrutiny that's unpaid. >> an illness defined woodrow wilson house where ms wilson hosting first ladies. >> first ladies are really know for oftentimes, rising above the politics. >> it's a tough job it's not clearly defined what your role is as first lady and you have no position description and no salary are not on the federal payroll. you get to pick and choose what you want to do or

nothing. americans have come to expect that the position is one that you could make a difference and you do have influenced. and it is a partner to the presidency. there's no closer confidant to a president, then their spouse americans want a first lady who represents a sense of peace and calm and can be there in times of peril, they want someone who's maternal, warm they want someone who is beautiful and well dress and a good representative if a var country. >> and it's impossible to be all of those things for everyone given the women's movement, given how we are trying to have more gender equality that we still have this role very antiquated, old-fashioned role where we have women who have graduate degrees he's who are spending the majority of their time picking out china and what they're going to wear and seating placements. it mirrors women's place in american

society and that there are two steps forward, one step back this the china room and the gold room and the library, which is i'm finished yet in 1960 thirty-two-year-old jacqueline kennedy ushered in the modern era when she gave the first televised tour of the white house by a first lady, river kennedy has been showing us about the white house all the changes that made therein. jackie kennedy understood people's fascination with her opening up the white house and bringing in cameras for that first time in 1960 it's c2, she transformed our expectations and more than 50 years later, another first lady would also upend those expectations this is the longer trump wanted. >> trump is wearing this jackie kennedy, esq., 1960s suit. >> we are a country that is sort of trained on what the first lady is wearing. and that was a real sort of big moment

to see her emerge in that light blue suit with the gloves keyed. >> bennett isn't author and former cnn white house correspondent are we all sat, who covered melania's time, is first lady melania trump, in designing that sit with ralph lauren and hair stylist knew what it was going to look like and photographs. >> she wanted to think of the most iconic first lady that americans think of and reflect that are at least plant that seed, that like, oh, she going to be the next jackie but even as melania harkened back to a former era with her style as first lady. >> she also blazed a new path for herself from the very beginning. >> first lady melania trump surprises with her decision to delay moving into the white house is unprecedented that she won't immediately move into the white house it could be first lady trump she's going to stay in new york for the rest of the school year. >> so their son, baron can finish school in new york city. >> she established a different precedent. she took a lot of criticism for that, but she removed that burden of precedent for anyone that came

after to her who might want to do the same thing. >> that's melania. i do what i want. >> mary jordan is a pulitzer prize-winning journalist and author of the art of her deal. you write in your book about why she was so delayed in part and moving to the white house. she was renegotiated her prenuptial agreement with donald trump. melania when she got married to him he wasn't in politics so she dugger heels in and said, hey, i didn't sign up for this. you want me on the campaign trail. you got to do a little more. and mainly she was interested in the share for baron she wanted baron to be considered more like the children from his first marriage, ivanka donald junior, and eric. >> and it really bugged her that she felt her kid got second trip. >> he's a tough negotiator. so it was she with jordan released her book in june of 2020, melania trump's then chief of staff, stephanie grisham said,

quote, this book belongs in the fiction genre by 2021, grisham had resigned and published her own scathing book about the trump white house. >> i have been with donald for 18 years and i have been aware of his love for this country since we first met for many americans, the first time they may have heard melania trump's voice was when she took center stage at the republican national convention in july 2016. >> we all remember the disaster when she spoke at the convention and many lines were plagiarized lifted from michelle obama's speech. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> that your word is your bond that you do what you say you're gonna do, you work hard for what you want in life that your word is your bond and you do what you say parts of millennia speech came directly from michelle obama's 2008 convention remarks. >> there were the allegations

of plagiarism of mrs. obama said that's a tough way to start but as she faced scrutiny in public, launia remained deeply influential in how much influence would you say she has on him at certain times? >> a lot. he brought in his vice presidential picks the last time random all through melania. and melania said, i think mike pence, because some of the others are going to be gunning for your job but her most crude sure political move may have been when she sat down with anderson cooper and october 2016. don't feel sorry for me don't feel sorry for me. i can handle everything that was just ten days after the now infamous access hollywood tape leaked. the one in which her husband joked about grabbing women by the genitals hey, when your star, they let you do it you can do anything, whatever you want,

that damaging tape service just three weeks before the election. and melania stepped in as a lifeline for the campaign. >> i said to my husband that's the language is an appropriate it's not acceptable. and i was surprised because that is not demanded. i know they were kind of a boy talk and he was lead on like egg on from the host to say dirty and bad stuff. >> she went on tv and she backed him up. she minimized it. it's just locker room talk she had a lot of power at that moment and if she said the wrong thing or she walked or she said it disgusts me to he could've lost the election now, in 2024 the former first lady is facing a new wave of scrutiny.

>> are you going to be with you? >> where's melania trump? >> melania trump still has barely appeared anywhere to support her husband this year. she didn't attend his hush money trial in new york. >> she did speak at two political fundraisers for the log cabin republicans. she was paid more than 200 events convention and introduce her husband. >> what did you make of that so she does like to have the attention, but it's on her terms, her music, her lighting, her clothes, where he stands, what she looks like, those are all things that are really orchestrated by her herself, not by the campaign, not by the producers of the convention, not by her husband. >> and that's what makes her very uniquely reliant malatia, added to the intrigue in her memoir i believe it is important to share my perspective the truth she's

posted these promotional videos addressing motherhood, life in the white house. and even her views on abortion rights, which stand stark contrast to her husband's. >> there is no room for compromise when it comes to this essential right? that all women possess from birth individual freedom what does my body, my choice really mean? >> the former first lady also addresses the assassination attempt on her husband in butler, pennsylvania in her book and then the videos that she's been putting out to help promote it. she does raise questions about trump's assassination. >> i can't help but wonder why didn't law enforcement officials arrest the shooter? before the speech there is definitely more to this story and we need to uncover the truth. >> it's a pretty conspiratorial but promotion but again, eyeballs and she's a

trump and it's great marketing that people calling her the sphinx what does that face? >> she's making it me. she angry at and what does she think every marriage is different? there's this just more different than we've ever seen? >> coming up lessons from melania's last time as first lady, i wish people would focus on what i do, not, but i went and later what life as the first gentleman could look like for doug emhoff whether or not man or woman, doug emhoff has the personality to really make something up the role and unit scott's turf, grass, it goes glass two times faster under see the loan given you a stronger law? >> now let's leader may i look at my lawn app today for lawn care tips and customize plans, pd law looking for a way to stretch the dollar within ensure phi, you can cut your

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29-year-old model melania canals and in 1999, abc interview she had just started dating real estate developer and reality tv star donald trump as he flirted with the idea but a running for president under the reform party ticket you'd have a lot less gridlock in washington. >> if i decide to do this and if i want on january became the third mrs. donald trump in an opulent wedding ceremony and star-studded party mar-a-lago for the guest included bill and hillary clinton that next year, millennia gave birth to bear in trump in march 2006 he's everything to her they are little cocoon inseparable, very close here are the trump's with four-year old baron at trump tower and 2010 on cnn's larry king live i have to go to school now. >> yeah, we'll have lunch and

then go now. i'm going to go yeah. >> first, you will have lunch and then you go to school. >> you can do being writing and arithmetic has an inaction. he does he spend most of the time with me so barron trump, he was always a figure in the trump white house. he was their child to live there. he is now 18-years-old. she's going to to school in new york if she becomes first lady again, it's going to be interesting because the having a child and the white house won't be a factor. >> that might be a situation where she shows up for important events, state dinners is to our roles and the things that first it's lady is expected to do with washington might not be where she wants to be for another four years are on full display at the openly bar for the event, have a special first ladies cocktail menu that's where i met with author of free melania, kate

bennett when you were writing your book, you went to her hometown or in slovenia what did you take away from? >> hell slovenia shaped the melania trump that she is today of been influenced or or led by communism the civilian people there therefore, are pretty stoic. >> they've been through a lot and i think that really reflected in melania's character and growing up >> she is formal and her mannerisms in her hometown, little town in the former yugoslavia mother would go to work in the early morning shift, the clothes factory they used to call her mother, jackie kennedy she was so good looking so well dressed. she were high heels across the bridge. she

walked to the factory and to work all day there. and then she came home and took care of the kids from slovenia. >> and i grew up there as a teenager and i left it 15 years ago to come to vent to milan and then paris. >> and then i went to new york. i came to new york ten years ago. >> want to be a model yes, i was modeling that she got work as a catalog model, a fit model. she did a billboard for cigarettes. >> she is the first first lady to have ever posed new pictures in clubs promoting her memoir why do i stand proudly behind my nude model? >> i believe work the more pressing question is why has the media chosen to scrutinize my celebration of the human forum in a fashion photo shoot but melania wasn't the only

former model and the trump family, there's also ivanka trump, who is 11 years younger than melania and his donalds daughter from his first it's marriage to ivana trump, also a model in her own right melania called ivanka, the princess. and ivanka called melania the portrait the portrait was augustan speak. she was as interesting as the painting on the wall wow and i think people mistake her silence for she's not that smart. she's quite savvy this is a woman who came to this country in 1996, 26 years rolled model. that's old sadly to try to spi still making it as a model. and she ended up in the white house malatia kept her parents close moving them into the 30s floor

of the white house. >> residents you know, it's kind of funny when they were in the white house. she was very close to her mother. her father, and baron and they would be up in the private court as the white house, all speaking slovenian. and i heard that donald would walk by and just make him crazy because he had no idea what recently would it was the impact like that, but on her, do you think single most important person to millennia? there she was my dear friend an irreplaceable treasure a gift stuff on me by the universe and for that an entirely grateful helped her through some of her toughest moments gordon says, particularly the alleged cases of a sexual encounter with a porn star, stormy daniels and

the ten-month long extra marital affair with playboy model karen mcdougal both liaison tap-in while meloni was home caring for a newborn baby barrett according to court testimony donald trump has continued to deny both affairs her mother, who was quite religious and she was very traditional and she believed in the vau of marriage. >> and it is my understanding that her mother was saying, you know he's not a lot for you. look at this. you have house floor florida mar-a-lago. you have bedminster, you have trump tower. you have a jet plane so it was a huge huge blow when she lost her turbulent time in the white house. >> breaking news, launia trump making a surprise visit to children at the border. but did she hurt the message he was trying to send with an unfortunate wardrobe choice i

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unusual in a lot of ways. she had about seven to ten person staff and the east wing she did have a very small staff. he average modern times has been around 25 if 26 positions she had half the number of people working in the east swing than michelle obama did i literally for firstline, literally right next door to her. always whether she likes it or not in 2019, cnn got a rare glimpse of the first lady's office and the east wing with melania's then press secretary, stephanie grisham. i think that while she is the first lady of the united states, her privacy is important. i've learned from her that we don't have to tell everybody everything. we just don't and it works out fine this is the chief of staff's office and then advance and operations in back here is calligraphy. >> they're very, very busy, especially during state dinners

she does love a lot about being first lady. >> she thinks it's an honor. she knows she's one of the handful of people who go down in history books. she's the only one who grew up speaking another language. and she's really proud of that she likes a lot of the job. she likes meeting foreign leaders foreign leaders like french president emmanuel macron and first lady regime across their state visit april 2018, came just a few months after the stormy daniels hush money payments and the karen mcdougal catch and kill stories both came to light. >> jim disappeared for a while she kinda re-emerged this state visit and the first thing we saw was this big brimmed white hat as the first lady said, very little publicly speculation swirled around the intention behind her outfit did the large brimmed hat allow her to keep her distance

the 2016 seemed debate a message in the wake of the access hollywood scandal pantsuit at the 20th? the teen's state of the union address. >> i think if you were to ask her, did you mean to wear a white suit was some sort of sign that you're trying to signal to democrats that you're secretly with them. she'd say no. i just wore white suit but she knows exactly what she was doing she realized what she wore could draw attention. she used that very strategically sometimes to her detriment. we can think about the african trip was out of a magazine when she went to her first solo trip to africa and she was criticized for wearing the hat, right? >> i had written a story about how she had worn a pit helmet on a safari in kenya. and it is a symbol of british colonial rule. it represents some really

dark ideas and she didn't like that line of coverage. and she medicine front of the graves thanks. >> at least people would focus on what i do not what i want she walked away from us and started posing against the ban after app of the pyramid. and it was literally a fashion show photo shoot but what may have been seen as bold fashion statements before or led to legendary backlash in june 2018 first lady appearing to express disapproval of her husband zero tolerance policy that has led to children being ripped from their mothers arms at the u.s. >> border. >> the first lady melania trump, has been urging her husband to end this practice. less than 72 hours after she made a rare public statement where she weighed in on immigration the president signed an executive order halting his own policy. the next day, the first lady coming

to him and saying, you've got to do something helped spur the one at that he made we're following breaking news out, the first lady of the united states, melania trump today she made an unannounced visit to one of the detention centers in texas along the border with mexico, where she's been meeting with children and that also like to ask you how i can help to these children to reunite with your families as quickly as possible. >> what could have been a shining moment showcasing a compassionate first lady and a temporary force and her husband's administration quickly turned into what may have been her worst blondie of trump making a surprise visit to children at the border. but then she heard the message he was trying to send with an unfortunate wardrobe boy a lot of ally of trump's wounds were self-inflicted like the jacket. i really don't care. do you jacket this is a big moment for

her and the headlines are all about the jacket. >> he is midge's we're being seen around the world. and again, i think it's a sign that nobody was there to really protect her or that she wasn't going to listen to the very small all group of people that she had around her. i think it says a lot about how well prepared she was for the role she got back from that trip. >> she went straight to the oval office which obviously normally she would go into the east wing. she walked straight into the oval and it wasn't long after that trump himself hosted defending her trip, but also hurt her clothing option she said it was a message to the media to this day, i think the thing is a mystery the jacket took on a bit of a life of its own. lawyers closest aides, stephanie grisham, in 2019, i would find it laughable me giving her clothing advice. we all give her the best advice that we can at all the time. and then she's going to do what she feels as fast.

>> please welcome. stephanie grisham by 2024, melania's chief of chief-of-staff, a self-proclaimed former trump true believer described her breaking point with the first lady on january 6. >> i asked malatia if we could at least tweet that while peaceful protests is the right of every american, there's no no place for lawlessness or violence she replied with one word. no. >> i became the first senior staffer to resign that day because i was at the white house later, we would realize what she was doing was having a rug photographs, a rug that she had redesigned for the diplomatic room that's what you did on january 6 that's that morning as that day, husband was delivering the speech on the ellipse and his rioters who were attacking the capitol. >> she was doing photoshoots and i think at that point people could really understand

who melania trump wants much more aligned with their husbands politics than people thought in a july 2022 statement responding to reports of her photo shoot on january 6 melania trump rights. >> had i been fully informed of all the details? naturally, i would have immediately denounced the violence that occurred at the capitol building coming up. doug emhoff, potentially the first man to ever serve in the role of first spouse. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> saturday's assault seen in striking a break from breaking news to air. have i got news for you? >> breaking news. i'm getting a sandwich. we need to talk about what constitutes breaking news. provide got news for you next saturday at nine on cnn and stream next day on max if you're frustrated with occasional bloating or gas your body's giving you signs. >> it's time to try a line. a

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love to three-to-one, three-to-one today isabel rosales in hillsborough county, florida and this is cnn president's residence walter mondale was the first vice president to live here in the falls 2022. >> the country's first ever second gentleman, doug emhoff gave cnn's dana bash an inside look at the vice president's home at the united states naval observatory qatari this is a first, this is a mezuzah and this is on many jewish homes and it's the first mezuzah ever on the vice president's residence or the white house? i'm only the first second gentleman because the country

elected the first woman vice president i'm here because i'm her husband. i'm here to support her i could not be more proud my beautiful state from standing by his wife's side after her california's senate win in 2016 holding the bible as she was sworn in as vice president, the duties of the office upon time about so help me god. >> so help me god there's never been any doubt about doug emhoff's unwavering support for his wife's career no harris can smell weakness. he's been racking up miles on the campaign trail, traveling from state to state speaking as an effective surrogate for his wife. >> and she knows the best way to take a coward on is head-on, shaking hands at rallies and

fundraising across the country. >> this country needed a leader to step into the void, step into the breach. and she did that from podcast his social media to even late late-night and daytime talk shows. >> doug emhoff is seemingly everywhere i mean, your covid, nasa love it. >> i know that they may have actually from him was on this next hello to my big, beautiful blended family up there is it time, time headliner on night two of the 2024 democratic national convention. >> she makes a mean brisket for passover it brings me right back to my grandmother's apartment in brooklyn you know, the one with the plastic cover couches doug emhoff spoke at the convention about his fantasy football league and supporting harris. >> and, has been much more of

that kind of joyful warrior on the campaign trail absolutely. he has embraced it, giving primetime speeches as for presidential spouse is a fairly new phenomenon. >> barbara bush was the first prime time keynote speech than has been debugger since, but he talked about how he met his wife, what she's like as a family person, which is exactly what the role of the spouse is the you, moneies them? tell us what they're like behind the scenes. >> remarks he gave invention were very powerful because it's susie asm has energies, infectious rallies, crowds ron klain has a deep history in washington most recently, serving as joe biden's chief of staff. he's not a public figure by nature. it's kind of a quiet, reserved person is fun, but about someone who was out seeking the limelight doug emhoff, i always call them the happiest man in washington you know, he went from being this corporate lawyer. >> can hollywood to being the

guy who gets to throw out the first pitch of the baseball games or traveled to the olympics. >> i'm just as kid from central jersey who was playing literally and here i am representing the united states 13, 1964 in brooklyn, new york. just seven days before his future wife, kamala harris was born. born across the country in her home state of california as 40 some-odd years. >> finally, meet but here we are i grew up in the suburbs of jersey, gone to grandma's house in brooklyn for the holidays. it's my mom's electric when nora it's my three-peat he's valore brown bar mitzvah suit says all those cultural experiences going to jurors summer camp, and i was athlete of the year but you or someone when he was in high

school, his family moved to los angeles where he worked his way through school, including a job at mcdonald's or he became employee of the month in 1981 as immortalized in this photo, he shared on social media after graduating from college and law school emhoff became a successful attorney. he was a corporate lawyer in california. he made upwards of 1.2 million a year in entertainment law he was good at it to members of the bar in california. he was very well known, very well regarded as one of the leaders in the bar in los angeles and one day is doug emhoff showed around a new legal client. >> he found himself being set up on a blind date as the couple later explained, in a 2021 cnn interview, my best friend set me up on a blind date. >> i met her friend for an hour and a business meeting. and by the end of the hour, it was like yeah, like you, seem

pretty cool. i might want to set you up with somebody the kamala harris. kamala heard the attorney general we had a little back-and-forth old school texting and then you let me that the next violated every rule of dating i believe the next morning going to an early meeting, i'm talking like 7:30, 8:00 am. i'm in the car like don't do it, don't do it i did it leave this long rambling voicemail? ended the call and i thought i'd never heard from her but then i said, well, let me i'll call call him back and we ended up talking for like 45 minutes to an hour and just laughing the whole time. laughed the whole the whole time. >> i pulled the move of emailing her with my availabilities for the next four months, including long weekends, and i said something like, i'm too old, hide the ball, your grade. i want to see if we can make this work. here's when i'm available next i guess it worked doug had been

married once before and shares two children with his ex-wife, kyrsten his son, cole, and his daughter, ella his first marriage. >> not without controversy. >> doug emhoff did after release a statement in august about his first marriage and why it ended after allegations had surfaced in the media he had essentially been responding to reports that he had engaged in an extramarital affair during his first marriage and he did something that is kind of rare these days, which is take accountability for his part and why his marriage ended and the bad decision making that had led to it these days, doug's first wife, kerstin, is one of harris's biggest supporters and kyrsten emhoff has been a defender of harris in the past with numerous posts on social media about her campaign. his first wife endorsed her, which i think

anyone who has ex-wife might be shocked, you know, that's the hardest endorsement to get. i would i would venture to say his first wife actually produced the video introducing him at the convention this is my dad the one narrated by his son colt, and then he met kamala the blind date that would dramatically change all of our lives forever in 2014 kamala became mamala there is a mom of kirsten, and then there's a mamala kamala and it just it evolved out of love and out of like we just want our own way to say mom and they too had been active on the campaign trail there is something really powerful people to see because again, being first lady being second gentleman, whatever the rule is, it's a reflection of americans as they want to see themselves they are reflecting, i think the idea that there are so many divorce people's so

many kids growing up with step parents they're making the best of it and people want to see that coming up what doug emhoff's time is second gentleman may tell us about how he would handle the role of first spouse the second gentleman? i don't. view it as being political. >> i really view this as being the second gentleman for all americans have a show were right and left talk to him cnn presents an encore presentation of hbo's real-time with bill maher next on cnn and living longer are two things i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment and with kisqali, i can have both kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor, helps delay cancer from growing and

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guilty.com today please join me in a second >> in this moment. i'm here as a fellow congregants a fellow mourner. and as a jew who feels connected to all of you and united states, doug emhoff choked up while speaking at a vigil for them six hostages found dead in gaza long before october 7, 2023, became the deadliest day for jews since the holocaust. doug emhoff had been combating anti-semitism in the u.s. >> i. was there at auschwitz last year. it's informed the work that i have done, what the administration on fighting anti-semitism people need to

understand eight is connected. we all need to push back together against it being the first spouse is a remarkable opportunity to do good. it's an opportunity to make the united states and to some extent the world a better place. >> a second spouse, doug emhoff is championed other causes to for mental health access. >> it's okay to talk about it. it's okay. so just confide in somebody and not feel shame to reproductive rights and gender equity. >> men to be allies. this is not news or not women's issues. so i started talking about childcare. i started talking about family leave. i started talking about pay equity in 2020 after his wife won the vice presidency, he paused his successful legal career but still carved out time to teach law at georgetown. >> i hate bullies. i hate unfairness. i hate injustice and me he and viewed with that

concept of justice it drove me to be a lawyer. >> that sense of justice was challenged when the republican governor of texas sent buses of mine threats to the vice president's home in 2022 and 2023, busloads of migrants arrived outside kamala harris is washington home and below freezing temperatures on christmas eve know it's shameful. >> it's shameful. these are, these are human beings, these are people, not pawns kamala harris and her vision for the future. it's a future where everyone has a place doug emhoff, the second gentleman, represents sort of a modern version of masculinity. >> he exemplifies what it means to be a man in the 21st century, particularly as women have gained additional shipments in the workforce and elsewhere on the world stage, emhoff has represented the us

and please this is like the philippines, south korea. >> the paralympics in tokyo, and the paris olympics so many countries have had women and elected to the top office, but not the united states of america. >> and meghan better had done this behind her so far, if you look at what he's done because she's been vice president and he's four years, he's had time he's been a surrogate. he's out there. he's raising money, he's given speeches where melania doesn't give speeches. he will be more like what? we've seen just a guy there's the video of doug emhoff from the state of the union where they're still waiting on president biden to walk in. there. we see the second gentleman, doug emhoff during his waved at his wife and she's seems to be smiling at her goofy husband. >> harris is guinea up there and she looks up and he's in the gallery and he does this it's dorky waved to her knees along for the ride. he's happy to be there. you know, that's

what i would say. it's like doug emhoff happy to be here with my jersey. >> why is he having so much about in washington? it doesn't seem like other political spouses they see. i mean, it seems like they're big drag two events. he seems he's like bouncing two event. yeah. i think some of it's you know, he gets a little bit of a pass because he's a novelty. >> i think i think also he has the benefit of being a second spouse like can you recall anything karen pence did second spouse? >> kamala harris, has the character and expertise that we need an a president xi's about moving us forward. >> i think whether or not man or woman doug emhoff has the personality to really make something of the role he is a lawyer by trade. so i'm sure there will be maybe a more a robust staff in the east wing america will get its first first gentleman, doug emhoff, i think is a fantastically prepared to do that that role. >> he's really a guy's guy like sports. he likes to hang out with his friends, but he's

been very supportive of his wife guess first spouse, think doug will do the duties of the job he will take care of the white house. >> he will make sure its perfectly decorated for various seasons regardless of the politics, the image of the two of them together is something in that will change the way americans think about how families work together, how men support there wives doug emhoff does move into the east wing what becomes of the smithsonian first, lady's exhibit what happens if we have a first spouse, doug emhoff. >> this is a history-making election, right regardless of the outcome. >> but i think we'll be ready will be ready to bring in our first tuxedo