community, they are shopping, they're paying taxes. it just boggles my mind. the people that think that they're just getting this incredible free ride and that's some of what we heard from the governor of ohio who we spoke to for this as well, that the influx of haitians, while they have put stress it is on different aspects of society. >> they have revitalized the economy. there. one that was declining in recent years as many officials on the ground explain to me, so i'm excited for you all to see it tonight. i think we do hit at a lot of what the real issues are in springfield, which of course has been at the center of this national discourse. that hasn't always been. let's just say preferential to facts. jessica omar. >> thanks. so they'll whole story with anderson cooper, one whole story, one whole hour airs next only on cnn. thank you so much.

welcome to the whole story. i'm anderson cooper, the city of springfield, ohio has become a flashpoint in this presidential election it is home to roughly 12,000 haitian immigrants who are residing legally their most under temporary protected status because of the deteriorating living conditions in haiti. but these immigrants have been targeted by foreign president donald trump, who promises to deport them if elected and by his running mate who spread widely discredited claims and conspiracy theories about the haitians in springfield cnn's omar jimenez has been reporting from springfield and over the next hour examines the long history of why immigrants have flocked to the city, including the recent influx of haitians. it looks at what will happen to the local economy if they leave

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pandemic era as we came out of the pandemic, there was this huge demand for production people to come in and work with us they might work a day or two and then we never see him again. >> i just would disappear and that is a real problem when you're running a production facility, you need to have a reliable workforce that you can count on to be at work every day. when you look at who are major employers are right now manufacturing is still a vital part of our for economic face. but not everybody wants to come to work every day and running machine how much more difficult do you think it would have been to scale up your production without the population patients that we had coming here. i think it would have been more difficult they came back every day and became very productive as an employee.

>> you were telling me you lost an employee because you couldn't offer them overtime several employees the haitian community, once the hours there were no haitians that are taking anybody's jobs. >> i mean, if you want a job you can get a job in influx of the haitian population is allowed. companies to expand and grow from an economy standpoint for the community, they are shopping, they're paying taxes. it just boggles my mind. the people that think that they're just getting this incredible free ride. >> neo i want to dispel one thing. >> we don't bring them in at a substandard wage and work them and pay them any less than we would any other employee and i just encourage people to have a little bit of empathy for where the haitians are coming from. i don't know a person in this town that wouldn't want to get the hell out of there haitian

government extended a state of emergency for the entire country due to ongoing deadly gang violence. >> the country now overrun by gang leaders attacking airports, police stations, at least 70 people are dead following an attack by gang members in central haiti, three infants are among the dead u.n. >> reports at least 3,600 people have been killed here at pentaflex one year what did you have to leave haiti? >> because my life was not busy. they burn my house i lost everything who is after you do you know that's the only reason that there is do you think you would have been killed if you stayed in haiti i know that there are two friends will let me know that one of the things you told

me was that working here sometimes it's hard because you don't have your family yes they live so more nad right now? >> are they in hiding yes because when all gang or someone was full-blown with, you knows your family, you can do everything with your family because the family was a pattern with police do you talk to your family often every day. >> every day? sometimes to times? >> what do you talk about everything. >> i always want to know, always my daughter, my wife. >> how old is your daughter last symptoms? >> september. she is it easily? >> so you couldn't be there for her birthday? know. is that hard? >> very hard very hard. because

she's zero represent my heart. she is my firstborn. she said to me poppy, never leave me alone now very milan stay with me i miss you i was too quiet, but have to take power i have to stay strong because i have to take care of them and to stay a live by expect to meet them. again you meet when you go somewhere?

yes. some people looking the other bad way. there's some who always welcome you. always greet you and say you something, encourage you when i go to the course i often use some more of jog that make me feel good when i meet someone possibility to communicate with me seen more growth than we've seen for decades past. >> we've seen a revitalization and resurgence of our downtown

one of the newer developments. >> we saw. >> little to no investment in our housing stock for 30 plus years originally, that project was planned over five to six years they've been able to move quicker because the pace of sales in the need for housing is sycamore ridge and this is going to be 220 single-family homes for our community this, project over here, this is melody parks developments it will get new housing units with a mix of it being a market rate apartments, patio homes, and those single-family lots and various sizes. >> and then we'll have the commercial retail front end so that you can shop for your groceries. you can go out to dinner with your family the influx of patients has brought a lot of benefits and that some of the economic boom or

increase that you were talking about, you have to attribute in some ways to them that is certainly true. the haitian community members have been a benefit to our economy and that benefit to the economy has helped us continue our path of revitalization and growth we've been successful in creating and bringing new jobs to our community. but you have to have a workforce to be able to work those jobs. and the haitian community members, they're hard workers they're working these jobs. i know one company had 50 jobs that just went unfilled for a long period of time until the haitian community started coming into springfield there's the ability to grow and expand our existing businesses and allows us to create new jobs, new companies coming into our market. because of that workforce which then allows us to grow and housing and retail and restaurant and other means for our community

going in, it's still nowhere near enough. what you need know, we were already at a housing shortage with our existing population we're going to have 2000 new units bill over the next three years in springfield, ohio. but with 15,000 new residents that's not going to be enough issues that exist in springfield, ohio but when we've been elevated into the national spotlight for the wrong reasons that has not helped we need help, not hate they're eating the cats. you have to get them the hell out gone through machine in nearly job i'm so scared

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cnn the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats illegal asian immigrants have descended upon the town of 58,000 people destroying their entire way of life. >> this was a beautiful community and now it's honorable. whatsapp you have a lot of people saying, my pets are being abducted and slaughtered right in front of us. >> this town has i've been ravaged

and every time i come back here, it seems like there's more fear, there's for more tension, there's more nervousness about what's going on right now. >> we are getting ready to go meet a haitian immigrant who got here just in the past few construction site as he was getting off work and honestly, we weren't even sure if you wanted his name to be used or if you want his face to be shown basically because she was scared like so many of the haitians we've spoken to here, they were scared about consequences of their names getting out there of facing potential threats, of essentially being harassed

a haitian restaurant in the area, but we made a stop here at essentially what's immigration services for jephson and it's because he says he's scared we week to come up with >> he is here legally. but the reason why we want it to stop here is because he wanted more information how he can protect himself if there is an effort for mass deportation and future if you see me now, gay, either to smart people, still do new who seem nervous. shargi you look at springfield, ohio, they're going in violently. they are dangerous. they are at the highest level of criminality

security so he's i said sketch show when phil myself in springfield did you ever have anybody. say something to. you personally but an up my sheet once young blood passes through machine nearly job. were you scared when you heard that? >> hamdi i see it in allow erc asked him that while it the appear to get them rafted marty luck had you ever dealt with anything like that before living here? no, no i didn't get myself see c city. >> city lab simple been again

by the glass, you every two brothers out in thank you. thank you. >> okay. >> ok what did you think when you first heard people saying that you're eating cats and dogs here in springfield? so i'm sure camping on his unit case. this is the mood but as you now your life changed as soon as those words were set, one salli live with the conduct sub-bullet bouillabaisse mobile

mach-e t-beam pool, security, api remember lamb sides seem to show as a piney security how the baseless rumors about haitian immigrants eating pets in springfield, ohio began the town's mayor confirms to cnn that a step after for republican vice presidential nominee jd vance called the city manager a day before the presidential debate that staffer was told there is no evidence to back up those claims vance's staffers and asked, hey, are the rumors true or pets being taken and eaten? >> by the immigrants in your community? i said no. it's a baseless claim and then to see that continue to be retweeted by vance himself the next day

and then sitting there watching the presidential debate to see that that is the light that's being shared on our community. even though we've told them that it's not not true, that's that's difficult just in the city? a lot of tension we are living the danger that misinformation and lies creates sparked violent threats. we've had well over 35 different threats, bomb threats those threats have prompted evacuations of elementary schools and supermarkets, lockdowns of hospitals. >> i don't know what happened with the bomb threats. i know that it's been taken over by illegal migrants that's a terrible thing that happened anti-haitian immigration march earlier this month i've come to bring a word of warning stop

what you're doing before it's too late increase with every haitian you bring in with it, just sound threatening if you go ahead and just peacefully be removed, these people done. >> thank you. >> that's all. thank you so much. >> i don't really thank you we saw watchtowers that the state has helped install really as an added security measure in the wake of some of the recent threats that we've seen to the school is now the threats have ended up being hoaxes but they've resulted in real evacuations of these students and staff and bottom-line has just disrupted life for so many in this area city hall. >> and so for me to have to go on the intercom and tell my employees that i need you to vacate the building that was tough to have threats thrown at

my family and thrown at my house to explain to my 12-year-old why bomb dog has to sniff our house to see if something is explosive there. that's tough. they bear the stress that i worried king from this unprecedented and challenging time, we're facing as a community scared because when i was needy i can go somewhere in do simple submitted to live what he i know nothing i go home and i come to work a lot of haitian already leaves when field i've

of course then she called me last sunday. >> let me know. >> you don't want to come to live with me really? >> yeah. there are people right now telling you to leave spree. yeah has that ever happened before know no this spice right on the oyster and that's what i did i. got to. do. it let's see. >> i do it to three >> how long have you been in the u.s. >> i. have been in the u.s. for over 29 years now she has been here for about nine to ten years. >> nine to ten years? yeah. >> a lot of people, you have been especially in the haitian

community, think tens has been the word that people have been using. i mean, it sounds like you all have felt that we are occasion american we part of the country with part of the city we are citizen american so i don't, i don't see that makes any sense for other american hurting american do you have to take your son out of school early, right. what what happened several times. >> first time we had to get a murder, it was the first bomb threat the second time he got an early release because it seems like there were more threats were the past few weeks been like for you overwhelming since you know i'm wondering what's going on in my son's head right now and we try to stay away from topics such as haitians. >> it this haitians that because they've been getting

picked on at the school wow, is going to leave a scar somewhere in our lives for a long time >> thank you guys for talking to me. over eating that spies got to me on the chip by the way. >> so i was struggling on that last one was like, okay, stay serious. i gotta if there's one thing i want to say, there's a there's a little boy last year on his way on the first day of school, on his way to school he got his school bus get into an accident? yeah the driver behind the wheel was a haitian immigrant and that little boy died we want to set out our sympathy to the clocks family. >> i wanted believe hari and we are deeply sorry for for the loss. mr. clark. understand. >> he wasn't accident. >> you understands that

haitian immigrant 11-year-old aid and clark was killed. >> this week, jd vance started posting saying that he was murdered murdered. he says he was accidentally killed they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants. >> the border crisis. and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however, they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention aid and clark from springfield, ohio >> you cannot destroy. we cannot destroy our country. they have to be removed your governor of ohio, but you were also born in springfield. if we did wake up the next morning and all of the haitians here, we're gone what do you think

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across this country. >> we brought in millions of illegal deep with americans for scarce homes. this is that what is about read about are the american citizens who have had their lives destroyed by kamala harris is open border, is a try it out alive. >> i just to clarify, for our viewers springfield, ohio does have a large number of haitian migrants who have legal status temporary legal >> we have so much against coming here? as teenagers and we started dating and state theater right up here as one place we went 12 miles from my house and springfield was county the place we went to predates. so when you were in high school, he was trying to impress you still at this point by bringing you to springfield, impressed

like when you first walk through these doors? yeah, it's very impressive they re done this and brought it back to allow this grandeur what has this past month been like well, it's been kind of strange, you know we have been working with the community for some time. >> look, yes, you're governor of ohio, but you were also born in springfield you've been to haiti many, many times you and your family have also helped stand up a school down there in haiti as well our schools and city chalet, which is always the poorest and the worst area they're educating about 5,000 kids every single day and all of these things sort of come together in as you described, a strange way. what was your reaction when former president trump flat-out said in springfield, patients are eating the cats and dogs well,

as governor, i have an obligation to tell the truth and talk about springfield. we knew that's not true. no evidence of that at all. >> i've spoken to a lot of haitians and one of the things that i've heard from all of them is they're scared in a way that they haven't been before thing for the entire community when any population and at any group of people in the community are scared they may not report crime they may not participate in society. >> they may pull back, know there's things are good now those things help anybody we've seen a wave of immigrants here. >> if you look at springfield's history by 18, 70, the african american population springfield, only

five years after the civil war, was about 10%. i see you had clearly some freed slave coming before. you had some who escaped well before the big migration that we always talk about in the 1900s springfield really does have a storied immigration history. i mean, this was a stop on the underground railroad, so springfield was really a symbol of a step toward freedom. but also a new life for slaves in america in the early 1900s. that's what we saw the first greek establishments created here germans irish hispanics later on and now we're seeing an influx of haitian immigrants growth in the last few years, that's been fueled a lot of it by the haitian immigrants are taking jobs that were open and they couldn't he filled by

someone. >> i had one employer look me in the eye and said, i don't think our company really would be here today. if it wasn't for haitians. i've had other people say he wouldn't have been able to go to the second shift. other said we wouldn't be able to take on new business community is how communities grow do you think springfield's what level? >> the you have to get them the hell out. you have to get them out. i'm sorry can have it >> we cannot destroy our country they have to be removed. so you would revoke the temporary protected status. >> so loosely, i'd revoke it and i'd bring them back to their country

morning and all of the haitians here, were gone what do you think happens to springfield? that's not good for springfield. i would not like to see them gone. i think it'd be bad for springfield. i think it'd be bad for ohio. >> you've voted for donald trump in 2020 he's now saying that if he is re-elected, he's going to deport these haitian immigrants i mean, do you still plan to vote for him i think it would be a mistake to kick these people out. not enough of a mistake to change how you plan. >> well, look, i think the decision to who you support for president is based upon multiple issues and i am a republican. i support my party going against the nominee of the party i think makes me a less effective governor of the state of ohio, given that what do you say to a haitian who will see these comments and say? >> i thought this governor had my back and he is now going to

support the person who wants to kick me out. >> yeah look, people can make any conclusion. they want to, but i make my position very, very clear. i don't think there should be thrown i think it would be a dramatic mistake. >> i think it's wrong sort of the national politics of things versus the reality of what's going on here. we do have challenges the face of american foreign policy. going to be lonely america. first get here, and i'll the lessons of history, america first up the weeds of communist special, next sunday at 8:00 on cnn

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population it's important for us that we're able to embrace this new change for our community and i will say it hasn't come easy you know, people fear change, changes top one lifelong springfield resident here who didn't want to appear on camera, who told me that she thought what was said at the debate was wrong. but she says there also have been some pretty significant clashes and culture with the influx of haitians that have come in here. and she's also talked about issues with driving that they've seen, which is also what we've heard from state officials they say that's the number one problem they've had with haitians from a public safety perspective

the age of 18 does not have to go through a formal driver's education program. >> they can test for their license and they can begin driving. there has been issues as it relates to driving in our new haitian neighbors acclimating to rodents, road signs, and roadways that downtown and we have some weird different directions that you have to go let me be honest of this one. go for it we have bad driving records here in springfield because his car insurance that has been one of the problems it becomes frustrating

they too have struggled with the influx of haitian immigrants. because when you have a large amount of students coming into a school district like this? they've been trying to find a number of translators to match up they went from less than 100 english language learners to now they have served over 1,200. >> and that's tough steep, steep hill to climb we've helped them find english. >> as a second language classes what are you seeing the last few years, you guys have now? >> the instructions aren't just in english, but there and creole lot of the haitians here in springfield have become much better at the english language

class after this, right? as i understand why has that been so important to you when objective since i was in ad i want to entail grid this society that the reason i go to the english class to have more knowledge and the glitch and to lend something and to be better for the community population that you have now health care, our health care is strapped for resources right now. we have our federally qualified health center. they're going to spend $600,000 over the next year on translation services alone. wow. >> instead of that money going towards actual health care

services, they're having to go towards translation services. and that's a challenge. >> this is a mobile healthcare clinic. the state has helped put up essentially to try and target some of the pressure points we've seen in the health care system here. so those are things like blood pressure screenings, vaccinations, things of that nature, and state officials say they they've already seen close to 100 patients in just about a week's time, which exceeded their expectations to senator brown and then cc senator vance on that letter. >> and it was to highlight the housing crisis. i didn't call it a migrant crisis. i didn't call it an immigration crisis. it's a housing crisis. the fact that the pace of growth for our community is just was not sustainable and continues to not be sustainable unless we get some additional support from the state and federal government

resources from a state perspective here and spring for sure. i mean, as governor, my job is to deal with extraordinary circumstances along before the debate occurred. and when this became an a national issue you know, we were putting members of highway patrol and because police were overtaxed, basically, driving issues we really focused on making the capacity of the health system broader but we need more resources from the federal government. >> you think? >> well, the community needs it. work comes from a different issue. i mean, we've also of course, reached out to the federal government. >> i do think it's fair to say that we know prices have gone up the past few years economics have gotten tougher for a lot of individuals, nonimmigrants here in springfield i mean what do you say to some of those who say well, so much attention is

going to the haitians. what about me? >> everything that we have done has been for every citizen in springfield i don't care whether they're haitian or whether they've been in springfield for five generations about me? >> i love him it gives would never forget what you're dealt black people better or worse, a lot of people came away from that thank you, well, it's my turn to talk. i must say tv on the edge, moments that shaped

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don't have to worry about it. you just have to do your best of you. that said, i'm not i no, i don't eat dog. i don't keep i don't eat cats are what i have to always somebody told me i did not know. >> okay. and so you don't have to be wily somebody says something because you're not happen everybody is just bad leave no stop it goodman, movie. no, you're not going no way you got to say if you're going no yacht wherever you go, you cannot be the same thing. somebody says something, you just go up more know stop it. that piece me up. >> you've been here in the u.s. 30 years. >> so i said, yes, i've been citizen over 20s, five years. >> we opened up the shop, you know, everything was good until whatever happened people start moving out lot of people moving a lot. a lot of that was kinda don't make me mad and why we have to be moving because somebody says something have patients been scared here? >> they do scared. that's why they moving. the guy said they're going to come and

shoot them they're going to come in, do this, do that. so they win a war with some people we need to come shopping yeah, you were saying your business has slowed down. >> there through me. >> i'm not worried about that because i see that before you seem like a fighter, you seem like, you know what, i'm not going to let them bring me down. >> i am strong, i think is been nitschke as a woman, a single man, always my three kids. and then i walk hot. number one, i am not we're of nobody. i am not actually have people was follow me over 15 minutes even when i which a police on the street. so i tell them that leader. and i've been doing that for ten years these send for me and i said with the bottom of my heart, that is too much for the kids what's been going on right now as to what go much for the kids, the kids get bullied school, some other color some other kids called the name everything like that.

>> so when somebody play with the kids who play with me to my heart because i may forget what you say because will never forget what you tell them. everybody come here. we want to play. >> calm, calm, all that has come in and get up. get up. last gotten together make a big seco some 23rd. >> one 13 midtown that to know something about haitian people, about immigrant people >> they possibility two refutes myself and they're counting for instance, of immigrants,

it's not or danger for him people come to them place when you grid can not take your place of american citizen there's a place for everyone i want to let them know event, the people angry about me as a only grant i love all of them event before hit me i love him because