beginning of his time i'm in politics that he would not respect the results of any election in which he was not the winner trump is unquestionably a political survivor. this is what the the result is is the first president to be impeached twice. the only president to be convicted of 34 felonies and charged with 54 more and just one of two former presidents who were shot and survived shocking assassination attempt. >> what happened trump has survived it all to now run again for office. he refuses to admit he wants lost

>> i'm anderson cooper, the city of springfield, ohio has become a flashpoint in this presidential election. it's home to roughly 12,000 haitian immigrants who are residing legally their most under temporary protected status because of the deteriorating living conditions in haiti but these immigrants have been targeted by foreign president donald trump, who promises to deport them if elected and by his running mate who spread widely discredited claims and conspiracy theories about the haitians springfield, cnn's omar jimenez has been reporting from springfield and over the next hour examines the long history of why immigrants have flocked to the city including the recent influx of haitians. and it looks at what will happen to the local economy if they leave

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post pandemic era as we came out of the pandemic, there was this huge demand for production and we were struggling to find people to come in and work with us, they might work a day or two and then we'd never see him again. i just would disappear and that is a real problem when you're running a production facility, you need to have a reliable workforce that you can count on to be at work every day. >> when you look at who are major employers are right now, manufacturing is still a vital part of our economic base. >> but not everybody wants to come to work every day and running machine how much more difficult do you think it would have been to scale up your production without the population of haitian actions that we had coming here i think it would have been more difficult they came back every day and became very productive

as an employee you were telling me you lost an employee because you couldn't offer them overtime. >> several employees the haitian community, once the hours, there were no haitians that are taking anybody's jobs. i mean, if you want to job, you can get a job influx of the haitian population is allowed companies to expand and grow the community, they are shopping, they're paying taxes. it just boggles my mind. the people that think that they're just getting this incredible free ride? >> and you know, i want to dispel one thing. we don't bring them in at a substandard wage and work them and pay them any less than we would any other employee and i just encourage people to have a little bit of empathy for where the haitians are coming from. i don't know a person in this town that wouldn't want to get the hell out of there the

haitian government extended a state of emergency for the entire country due to ongoing deadly gang violence. the country now overrun by gang leaders attacking airports, police stations at least 70 people are dead following an attack by gang members in central haiti three infants are among the dead un reports at least 3,600 people have been killed here at pentaflex? >> one here. >> what did you have to leave haiti? >> because my life was not be safe they burned my out. i lost everything. >> who is after you do you know that's the only reason that there is do you think you would have been killed if you stayed in haiti i know that there are two friends will let me know that one of the things you told

me was that working here, sometimes it's hard because you don't have your family yes they live some more. >> right now. >> are they in hiding? >> yes. >> because when all gang or someone was problem with, you knows, your family, you can do everything we your family because police officer do you talk to your family often every everyday sometimes 23 times? >> what do you talk about? >> everything. i always want to know, always my daughter, my wife how old is your daughter? the last september, she is it easily so you can be there for her birthday know. >> is that hard very hard very hard?

>> because she's zero present my heart she is my firstborn. she said to me, poppy never leave me alone never leave me alone stay with me i miss you i was too quiet, but have to take power i have to stay strong because i've to take care of them as to stay alive, because i expect to meet them again person you meet when you go

somewhere? yeah. some people who look in your other bad way yes, some who always welcome you always greet you and say you something, encourage you when i go to the course i often use some word of joke that make me feel good when i meet someone possibility to communicate with me seen more growth than we've seen for decades past week cena revitalization and resurgence of our downtown

one of the newer developments we saw, little to no investment in our housing stock for 30 plus years originally, that project was planned over five to six years. >> they've been able to move quicker because the pace of sales in the need for housing what's on the left here is going to be 200 220 single-family homes for our community this project over here this is melody parks developments it'll be new housing units with a mix of it being a market rate apartments patio homes and those single-family lots of various sizes and then we'll have the commercial retail frontage. >> so that you can shop for your groceries. you can go out to dinner with your family the influx of patients has brought a lot of benefits and that some

of the economic boom or increase that you were talking about, you have to attribute in some ways to them that is certainly true. the haitian community members have been a benefit to her our economy that benefit to the economy has helped us continue our path of revitalization and growth. we've been successful in creating and bringing new jobs to our community but you have to have a workforce to be able to work those jobs. and the haitian community members, they're hard workers. they're working these jobs. i know one company had 50 jobs just went unfilled for a long period of time until the haitian community started coming into springfield there's the ability to grow and expand our existing businesses and allows us to create new jobs, new companies coming into our market because of that workforce which then allows us to grow in housing and retail and restaurant and

other means for our community going in it's still nowhere near enough. >> what you need no, we were already at a housing shortage with our existing population. we're going to have 2000 new units bill over the next three years in springfield, ohio. but with 15,000 new residents, that's not going to be enough we're, trying to address those issues that exist in springfield, ohio but when we'd been elevated into the national spotlight for the wrong reasons that has not helped we need help, not hate >> there eating the cats. you have to get them the hell out gone through machine nearly job i'm so scared

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done your homework. >> i'm dr. sanjay gupta in atlanta and this is cnn >> they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats descended upon the town of 58,000 people, destroying their entire way of life. >> this was a beautiful community and now it's honorable whatsapp you have a lot of people saying, my pets are being abducted and slaughtered right in front of us. this town has been ravaged

and every time i come back here, it seems like there's more fuel are there was more tension, there's more nervousness about what's going on right now. >> we are getting ready to go meet a haitian immigrant who got here just in the past few years. construction site as he was getting off of work. and honestly, we weren't even sure if you wanted his name to be used or if you want his face to be shown basically because he was scared like so many of the haitians we've spoken once you here, they were scared about consequences of their names getting out there of facing potential threats of essentially being harassed

at a haitian restaurant in the area, but we made a stop here at essentially what's immigration services? for jephson and it's because he says he's scared. to come up with >> he is here legally but the reason why we want it to stop here is because he wanted more information. how he can protect himself if there is an effort for mass deportation and future if you see me not just my people shoe who at springfield, ohio, they going in violently, they are dangerous. >> they are at the highest level of

>> is i security so he as i said is when phil weiser did you ever have anybody say something to you personally? >> but i'm up my she was young blood passes through machine new newly job were you scared when you heard that from deeper in ally erc? >> i steam that while i d the api to the bag. it's been rafted. marty had you ever dealt with anything like that before living here? no. no see city city lap senate gop one at

sea. >> i've had the gas you might be too bad as out you think when you first heard people saying that you're eating cats and dogs here in springfield? >> if found schock emp not been said, one sadly live with the

conduct some boulevard seem able mulkey t-beam, security, a api remember lamb sides seem to show as a tightening security how the baseless rumors about haitian immigrants friends eating pets in springfield, ohio began the town's mayor confirmed to cnn that a staffer for republican vice presidential nominee, jd vance called the city manager a day before the presidential debate that staffer was told there is no evidence to back up those claims vance's staffers and asked, hey, are are the rumors true or pets being taken and eaten? by the immigrants in your community i said no. >> it's a baseless claim and then to see that continue to be retweeted by vance and some

self the next day. and then sitting there watching the presidential debate to see that that is the light that's being shed on our community even though we've told them that that's not true, that's difficult just in the city? a the danger that misinformation and lies creates debunk conspiracy theories sparked violent threats. we've had well over 35 different threats, bomb threats. >> those threats have prompted evacuations of elementary schools and supermarkets, lockdowns of hospitals. >> i don't know what happened with the bomb threats. i know that it's been taken over by illegal migrants and that's a terrible thing that happened i was at the head of the anti-haitian immigration march earlier this month. >> i've come to bring a word of warning stop what you're

doing. before it's too late prime with every haitian you bring in with it, just sound threatening if you go ahead and just peacefully be removed he's done. thank you. >> that's all. thank you so much i really thank you we saw watchtowers that the state has helped install really as an added security measure in the wake of some of the recent threats that we've seen to the school is now the threats have ended up being hoaxes but they've resulted in real evacuations of these students and staff and bottom-line has just disrupted life for so many in this area our first bomb threat was to city hall. and so for me to have to go on the intercom and tell my employees building. that was tough to

have threats thrown at my family and thrown at my house to explain to my 12-year-old why a bomb dog has to sniff our house to see if something is explosive there. that's tough. a bear, the stress that i bring from this unprecedent and challenging time we're facing as a community scared because when i was needy i can go somewhere and i've do simple submitted to leave. what he i know nothing i go home and i come to work

leaves when field i've of course, and she called me last sunday let me know you do want to come to live with me? really? yeah. >> there are people right now telling you to leave some spree. >> yeah has that ever happened before no no? and you put the spice right on the oyster and that's what i did i gotta do it let's see, i do it. to three >> how long have you been in the u.s. >> i. have been in the u.s. for over 29 years now. she has been here for about nine to ten years. >> nine to ten years? yeah. >> a lot of people have been

especially in the haitian community. think tens has been the word that people have been using. i mean, it sounds like you all have felt that we are occasion american. >> we part of the country with part of the city we are citizen american so i don't, i don't see that makes any sense for other american hurting american out of school early, right what what happened several times. >> first time we had to get a murder, it was the first bomb threat the second time he got an early release because it seems like there were more threats were the past few weeks been like for you overwhelming since you know i'm wondering what's going on in my son's head right now and we try to stay away from topics such as haitians. >> it this haitians that

because they've been getting picked on at the school. wow, is going to leave a scar somewhere in our lives for a long time. to me over eating that spies got to me on the chip by the way. so i was struggling on that last one was like, okay, stay serious. i got to if there's one thing i want to see there's a there's a little boy less you on his way on the first day of school, on his way to school, he got his cool. >> was that into an accident? yeah. >> and the driver behind the other, we'll was a haitian immigrant. and that little boy died. >> we want to set out our sympathy to the clocks family. >> i want to believe hari and we are deeply sorry for yeah, for the loss. mr. clark, understand. he was an accident.

you understands that haitian immigrant, 11-year-old, aid and clark was killed. >> this week, jd vance started posting saying that he was murdered the father says he was not murdered. he says he was accidentally killed they want about illegal immigrants. >> the border crisis. and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members nor have they ever been allowed to mention aid and clark from springfield, ohio you cannot destroy. we cannot destroy our country they have to be removed your governor of ohio, but you were also born in springfield? if we did wake up the next morning and all of the haitians here, we're gone.

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across this country. >> we brought in millions of illegal to compete with americans for scarce homes. >> this is not what it's about worried about are the american citizens who have had their lives destroyed by kamala harris is open border. >> is a stride outline just to clarify, for our viewers, springfield, ohio does have a large number of haitian migrants who have legal status legal matter. >> we haven't so much against coming here? >> as teenagers and we started dating and state theater right up here is one place we went 12 miles from our house and springfield was kinda place we went to predates. so when you were in high school, he was trying to impress you still at this point by bringing you to springfield and press

like when you first walk through these doors? yeah. i was very impressive read done this and brought it back to a lot of grandeur what has this past month been like well, it's been kind of strange, you know, we have been working with the community for some time. look, yes, you're governor of ohio, but you're also born in springfield? >> you've been to haiti many, many times you and your family have also helped stand up a school down there in haiti as well our schools and city chalet, which is always the poorest and the worst area educating about 5,000 kids every single day and all of these things sort of come together in, as you described, a strange way. >> what was your reaction when former president trump flat-out said in springfield, haitians are eating the cats and dogs

well, as governor, i have an obligation to tell the truth and talk about springfield. we knew that's not true. no evidence of that at all. >> i've spoken to a lot of haitians and one of the things that i've heard from all of them is they're scared in a way that they haven't been before thing for the entire community with any population any group of people in the community are scared they may not report crime they may not participate in society it may pull back. >> know there's things are good. >> now those things help anybody we've seen a wave of immigrants here if you look at springfield's history by 18, 70 african american population

in springfield. >> only five years after the civil war was about 10%. i'll see you had clearly some freed slave coming before. you have some who escaped. well before the big migration that we always talk about in the 1900s it's raphael really does have a storied immigration history. i mean, this was a stop on the underground railroad, so springfield was really a symbol of a step toward freedom. but also a new life for slaves in america in the early 1900s so when we saw some of the first greek establishments created here germans irish hispanics later on and now we're seeing an flux of haitian immigrants growth in the last few years. >> that's been fueled a lot of it, but haitian immigrants are taking jobs that were open and they couldn't he filled by

someone. i had one employer look me in the eye and said, i don't think our company really would be here today. if it wasn't for haitians. i've had other people say we wouldn't have been able to go to the second shift. others said we wouldn't be able to take on new business community is how communities grow do you think springfield's will ever be the same? you have to get them the hell out. you have to get them out. i'm sorry can have it yeah, i haven't we cannot destroy our country. >> they have to be removed. >> so you would revoke that temporary protected absolutely revoke it. >> and i'd bring them back to their country

morning and all of the haitians here, were gone what do you think happens to springfield? >> that's not good for springfield. i would not like to see them gone. i think it'd be bad for springfield. i think it'd be bad for ohio. >> you've voted for donald trump in 2020 he's now saying that if he is re-elected, he's going to deport these haitian immigrants mean, do you still plan to vote for him i think it would be a mistake to 50 people out, not enough of a mistake to change how you plan. >> well, look, i think the decision to who you support for president is his based upon multiple issues and i am a republican. >> i support my party going against the nominee of the party i think makes me a less effective governor of the state of ohio given that what do you say to a haitian who will see these comments and say, i thought this governor had my back and he is now going to

support the person who wants to kick me out yeah. look, people can make any conclusion. they want to, but i make my position very, very clear. i don't think they should be thrown out i think it would be a dramatic mistake. i think it's wrong sort of the national politics of things versus the reality of what's going on here. >> we do have challenges reason i see my life is a continual timeline instead of before and after it's all part of the total story super mad, the christopher reeve story, pg 13 in harbor freight, we design and test our own tools and sell them directly to you no middlemen. >> whatever you do, do it for less at harbor freight, save even more at our parking lot sale going on now

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four to four i'm elizabeth wagmeister in los angeles in this interpreter. we need to lanny here to help them because those a language barrier there really is the books here has been a culture shock to say the least an infrastructure in place was frustrating thing is we've got to spend tax dollars to try to take care of 15,000 more folks that yeah, and make sure that everybody has a safe environment to be in started as far back as 2014 but really the last three years is when we've seen the largest surge and are haitian migrant

population it's important for us that we're able to embrace this new change for our community. >> and i will say it hasn't come easy you know, people fear change, changes top one lifelong springfield resident here who didn't want to appear on camera, who told me that she thought what was said at the debate was wrong but she says there also have been some pretty significant clashes and culture with the influx of haitians that have come in here. >> and she's also talked about issues with driving that they've seen, which is also what we've heard from state officials. they say that's the number one problem they've had with haitians from a public safety perspective the age of 18 does not have to

go through a formal driver's education program. >> they can test for their license and they can begin driving. there has been issues as it relates to driving in our new haitian neighbors, acclimating to rodents, road signs, and roadways that i gave we have one way street right downtown and we have some you're different directions that you have to go let me be honest. this one go for him we have bad driving records here in springfield because his car insurance that has been one of the problems it becomes frustrating

they too have struggled with the haitian immigrants because when you have a large amount of students coming into a school district like this, they've been trying to find a number of translators match up they went from less than 100 english language learners to now they have served over 1,200. that's tough a steep, steep hill to climb we've helped them find english, as a second language classes what are you seeing the last few years, you guys have now? the instructions aren't just in english, but they're in creole lot of the haitians here in springfield have become much better at the english language

class after this, right? >> as i understand why has that been so important to you when objective since i was in ad i want to entail grid this society that the reason i go to the english class to have more knowledge and the glitch and to learn something. and to be better for the community population that you have now health care, our healthcare is strapped for resources right now. we have our federally qualified health center. they're going to spend $600,000 over the next year on translation services alone. wow, instead of that money going towards actual health

care services, they're having to go towards translation services. and that's a challenge this is a mobile healthcare clinic. >> the state has helped to put up essentially to try and target some of the pressure points we've seen in the health care system here, so that things like blood pressure screenings, vaccinations things of that nature, and state officials say they've already seen close to 100 patients in just about a week's time, which well exceeded their expectations to senator brown and then cc'd senator vance on that letter and it was to highlight the housing crisis i didn't call it a migrant crisis and then call it an immigration crisis. >> it's a housing crisis. the fact that the pace of growth for our community is just was not sustainable and continues to not be sustainable unless we get some additional support from the state and federal government

resources from a state perspective here and spring for sure as governor, my job is to deal with extraordinary circumstances along before the debate occurred and this became a national issue you know, we were putting members of highway patrol and because police were overtaxed, basically, driving issues we really focused on making the capacity of the health system broader. but we need more resources from the federal government. >> you think? >> well the community needs it. work comes from a different issue. i mean, we've also of course, reached out to the federal government. >> i do think it's fair to say that we know prices have gone up the past few years economics have gotten tougher for a lot of individuals, nonimmigrants here in springfield. i mean, what do you say to some of those who say? well, so much

attention is going to the haitians, what about me? >> everything that we've done has been for every citizen in springfield. i don't care whether they're haitian or whether they've been in springfield for five generations? >> i love all of them angry about me. i love him gives would the lead with jake tapper, we days it for unsealed i love that my daughter is still needs me, but sometimes that can help due to burning and stabbing pain in my hands.

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cat memes. >> just memes create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people. >> then that's what i'm going to do. dana sorry, you just said that you're creating the stores that data. >> yes so then eating dog we are not we are creating we are dana haitian grocery store, but honestly, it's so much more than that mainly because of a woman runs it. and this is refine the lovely philomene. how are you doing come on out here. she will play estimated if you believe in yourself, you are hot walker.

what people say, you don't have to worry about it. you just have to do your best of you. that said, i'm not i know i don't eat dog. i don't keep what i have to always somebody told me i did you not know. >> okay. and so you don't have to be somebody says something because you're not happy everybody's just leave. >> now stop it goodman. >> know, you're not going nowhere. you got to say, if you're going no yacht wherever you go, you cannot be the same thing. somebody says something, you just go up moved, know stop. it. that this me up you've been here in the u.s. >> 30 years said yes, i've been citizen over 20s, five years. >> we opened up the shop, you know, everything was good until whatever happened before stop moving out lot of people moving a lot, lot of that was kinda don't make me mad and why we have to be moving because somebody says something have patience been scared here? >> they do scared. that's why they moving. the guy said he going to come in, shoot them

they're going to come in, do this, do that, so they will need while with some people we need to come shopping you were saying your business has slowed down there through ami i'm not worried about that because i see that before you seem like a fighter, you seem like, you know what, i'm not going to let them bring me down. >> i am strong, i think is been nitschke as a woman, a single man, always my three kids. and then i walk hot. number one, i am not we're nobody. i am not actually have people was follow me over 15 minutes even when i which a police on the street. so i tell them that i still not scare me leader and i've been doing that for ten years. what is but can it will send for me and i said with the bottom of my heart, that is too much for the kids what's been going on right now is to go much for the case, you know the kids let's get bullied in schools. somebody some other case called the name. everything like that. so

when somebody play with the kids who play with me to my heart because i may forget what you said. the case will never forget what you tell them everybody come here. >> we want to play. >> come, come. all the guests come in and get up get up there has gone in together make a big circle okay. >> some 23rd one down that i want ask you to know something about haitian people about immigrant people >> they are possibility to earn feuds myself and they're counting

it's not or danger for him people, come to them place we regret, cannot take your place of american citizen there's a place for everyone as a little grant i love all of them event that people hit me i love him because we have to live together