now on cnn this morning. the final three weeks, kamala harris, donald trump, locked in a dead heat, millions of votes already cast i'm aware of the gender gap. i see the polling and everybody else does the gender divide how both campaigns are looking to close the gap between men and women in the final stretch on that i think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. >> it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national guard or if really necessary hey, by the military the enemy from within donald trump with some of his darkest language yet about his political foes and stepping in the u.s deploys advanced weapons and troops to help the threat that israel faces from iran

at new york city on this monday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. we are now just 22 days until election day. millions of early votes already have been cast in a race that new polling shows is getting tighter than ever over the weekend. the latest abc news ipsos poll has kamala harris with a slim 50 to 48 lead among likely voters nationally, no clear leader. just last month, harris had a five-point lead in this same poll it's going to be a tight race until the very end and we are running as the underdog so we have some hard work ahead of us, but we like

donald trump's tone is getting darker on immigration, on his political opponents. >> here was the former president and a series of campaign rallies and interviews. just this weekend john miller has important and army of illegal alien gang members and migrant criminals from the dungeons of the third world. >> i'm here by calling for the death penalty for any migrant that kills an american citizen or law enforcement officer. death penalty if commonly gets four more years, there's the entire country will be turned into a migrant camp. >> i will rescue aurora and every town that has been invaded and conquered i think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. not even the people that have come in and destroying our country. by the way, totally destroying our country it's the enemy from within. all those scum that we have to deal with that hate our

country that's a bigger enemy than china and russia all right, joining us now to discuss laura barron lopez, cnn political analyst, white house correspondent for pbs newshour. alex thompson, cnn political analyst, national political reporter for axios. meghan hays, former director of message planning and the biden white house, and matt gorman, former senior adviser to tim scott's presidential campaign. welcome to all of you so we got joy this is darkness. >> it seems, and darkness seems to be getting edge. yeah. >> why? what's going on well, i mean, so divided country. >> it's polarized country. the fact is that i think you asked anyone the harris campaign in july and august, they would say they expected this race to come back, that there was a little bit of a sugar high and the trump campaign felt the same way too. they felt that this was a 50-50 race in the very beginning. and really it just comes and that's actually why he's last three weeks or so critical because the fact is that kamala harris has only been on this national stage in this way as a nominee for 90

days, how she performs these next 90 days, most people have made up their minds about donald trump it's really about how she performs these next 22 days that could determine this race. >> do you agree with that assessment, meghan, why is this race playing out the way it is? >> yeah, i do i think because i agree with you, there was a sugar high. now we're back to reality of where this was always going to be, whether it was the president, president biden, or the vice president. this was always going to be a really tight race. and i do think it matters how she performs the next 22 days, people don't know her watching her leadership style, watching how she reacts as some of these attacks in the polls, i think shows what she's going to do as a president and how she's going to be a leader. and i think people who, who are undecided are watching her and making sure that she's up to the task well, a series we've seen polls over the, over this weekend with nbc and others i mean, belied, i think the strategy that we have, the strategy tone we've, we've seen over the last week or two of the harris campaign, far more anti-trump messaging that housing plan isn't really going anywhere now. >> and you also hear a little bit more about kind of a little bit more trolling now, i think they realize they're in a desperate spot including the fact over the last week they've

really made this really outsized push for male voters. they see the gender gap and what has me to talk about our gender gap. they have a gender gap according to nbc news poll was wider than ours getting worse, it's getting worse. >> and, they seem to maybe they don't. but like the northern virginia male with the future is female shirt. they got them on lock, but they don't have the north carolina ex urban suburban dad or the outside pennsylvania guy and i think that is what they just don't understand and allow their messaging around it like barak obama talking about internalized massage money is not going to help the case yeah. laura, while this these polls are tightening, i will say both republicans and democrats, i talk to think things are moving in trump's direction at the moment. it is still a tossup. of course trump's rhetoric seems to be getting darker and more apocalyptic which might suggest if he were a different kind of candidate, i suppose that that he feels like he is losing. but

obviously that trump has defied every norm and broken every the rule in our politics. why are we seeing this from him with 22 days to go well, this is what donald trump is running on since 2016 in 2016, he ran on migrant crime as well in 2018, during those midterms, he said there was a migrant caravan coming to the border when there wasn't and they lost the 2018 midterms in 2020. >> he also ran on this kind of anti-immigrant rhetoric and he's doing it again it is, it has gotten worse the closer he gets to november. and i think that he and his campaign are also part of his strategy and trying to convince the american public and trying to convince his base that eventually if he gets into office, then they shouldn't be surprised by what he does. he's saying out loud that he wants to potentially use the national guard, that he wants to conduct mass deportations that he may very well even use the national guard against american citizens so the american public shouldn't be surprised if he and stephen miller end up pursuing that on the race

tight. the race being tied, it was always going to be tight and yes, maybe right now it looks like it's leaning a little bit towards trump, but there's some recent polling that i think is striking in terms of harris is still ahead of trump when it comes to, when voters are asked, who do you, who do you think cares about you the most? they say her, which i think is interesting. and also, i was just in arizona and nevada and there are a number of republican women that i spoke to lifelong republicans who said they're not voting for trump this time around. and a lot of that has to do with abortion and a lot of it has to do with his character. and so economy and immigration may rate high on when you're asking for head-to-head polls. but a lot of times when you talk to voters, they make their decision based on character. >> yeah. well, but i mean this is what you're talking about, right? matt, that the democrats have women. >> i mean, look, it's going to come down to if republicans win men by more than they lose weight or the democrats do up the opposite? that's the ball game like that is the ballgame right now. and i think democrats are waking up the fact that they've had david serious problem men, we look

canada, we known it for years, right? like ever since roe was overturned, we know and we've seen it in 22 and on and that we have work to do with women and now i think democrats are waking up to the same and it's been a cultural thing that's been in the works for a while now well, in trump knows he has a problem too, because he's going to do a town hall with fox news where then all female audience recently, you also just see the contortions and jd vance's interview played a clip of it earlier. >> i've how he's trying to talk about abortion rights and try to get out of the fact that their past positions and the fact that they appointed the judges that overturned roe v. wade matt, do you think that the men the situation with men is it because harris, his team is doing a poor job? you gave some examples and how you think that they're not doing a good job of talking to men or is it because trump has played into that more? i mean, they've clearly are running a strategy aimed at jackie. >> it's both. i mean, just, just the opposite of what with democrats to like democrats have played into it well with women and we have had some hand

headed messages on. i think the same thing is happened here. it's been a cultural thing that's happened over the course of you here's that they haven't seen for awhile, and candlelit trump has done a good job of doing things that are authentic to him, but appeals to a male audience. if the key is being authentic to yourself and not when, when doing it interesting. >> all right, still ahead here on cnn this morning, the u.s lending even more support to israel after recent attacks from hezbollah. this time, not just weapons the us personnel now headed to the middle east will explain, plus tensions building why the harris campaign isn't happy with some recent moves by president biden and his staff. that's alex thompson. reporting will walk through it and as we were just discussing men versus women were going to dig further into this the gender gap in this election, how each campaign trying to chip away at the others advantage i'm aware of the gender gap. >> i see the polling that everybody else does. i also think there's some evidence that we've made some progress in the last few weeks and asked questions like, what does a comedy show doing on cnn

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front of the show. alex thompson in his latest piece, found frustration from harris, his team. the top white house aides aren't coordinating biden's messaging and schedule close please. enough with what's best for the vice president's campaign. biden's team, alex reports want wants harris to win the election. >> that's good. but many senior biden aides remained wounded by the president being pushed out of his reelection bid. a close harris ally tells axios that president's team is quote too much in their feelings and quote, panel is back. alex smith should call it nc pelosi and asked her what she thinks about people in their feelings and winning elections and what goes but that aside, what more did you learn about how this is manifesting itself? because again, this is one of those things they should know that harris is about to take the stage. she's running for president instead, they send the president out to the podium. what else do you know? >> the president is not used to being in a supporting role and he's definitely not used to being a supporting role in election that he intended to be running in. and that's what's really happening here. there is not a deliberate sabotage here,

and that's why they said they're in their feelings. the fact is like job biden is an emotional person and that really trickle, trickles down to the staff to they are wounded, they feel in some ways betrayed by their close allies. and the fact is that the harris team is sort of very gently tiptoeing around all of those feelings. and also at the same time being like, come on, like we got 22 days. the other example of that was right after coma, harris tried to do this whole thing and picking a fight with the santas about will you take my call? you not taking my call the next day on camera. joe biden was like, does incident a great job? >> and you can almost see harris herself tiptoeing around biden's feelings like the answer that she gave on the view that the trump team seized on where they're like, well, what would you do differently from biden and she's like nothing comes to the mind. >> meghan, take us inside you were there. >> i think that some of the people have left like anita dunn has left the white house and she was the main person around comms driving, messaging, and allude be more tracking some of that timing. i think i don't think it's intentional. i do think they're a little bit of bolivia sometimes two her being onstage somewhere or out i i agree with

you there probably in their feelings. more this is coming to an end for a lot but of their careers as well, not just the president, a lot of people are you know, their, their hold and they've worked for five times in the white house. this is probably the last time they're going to do that. but i don't think it's intention. i don't think that the president for sure wants the vice president to when he has been extremely vocal about that privately and publicly. so i don't necessarily think it's him trickling down are sending a message to everyone one, i think some of this is a little bit on unintentional and not as strategic as we might think it looks from the outside is always a mistake to forget that people running these campaigns are human beings. yes. and that, that matters a lot and also that the tone has always said i am continually struck by this. i think it's really true, especially on presidential campaigns the white house as well. but it's set by the top right. it is the person at the top manifested in a group of people below them. and of course it's been a very difficult. you could see biden. >> i'm back in like you really actually

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couple of inches above 1,000 feet that's what our computer models are telling us. and that's what some of the observations on the ground, most of this is rain at the lowest elevations, but a cold rain. and speaking of cold, look, just how much of a central portions of the country will be impacted by this cold snap that is on its way. it's all thanks to this cold front. it's going to dramatically drop our temperatures compared to what we experienced this weekend. so the first parts of this work week are going to feel very different to what the weekend felt like here in atlanta. this is a prime example yesterday it was 84, it'll be 70 degrees today significant drop in temperatures in places like little rock northward and dc, where cases located a step of cold weather for you as well. so it was at yesterday will drop 23 degrees for your high temperature tomorrow that's when the real cool weather sets lead and upper 50s for your afternoon highs and you know what florida the sunshine state, they're not out of this. they're not protected from this should say the cool weather you're actually going to see temperatures drop drop to around lower 70s for orlando, for example. so cool

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feels like alright, welcome, back the u.s. boosting weapons support for israel following iran's ballistic missile attacks against the country earlier this month the pentagon expected to send an advanced missile defense system to israel along with 100 us troops to operate it. it's specifically designed to intercept long-range ballistic missiles like the ones fired by iran two weeks ago. the announcement comes as israel deals with fallout from a deadly hezbollah drone attack that killed four idf soldiers and injured 60 others at a base near the lebanon israeli border. israel now investigating how the drone made it deep into its airspace without being detected or not. we will learn from and investigate the incident how a uav entered without an alert at the base spice a building where

she was trapped, uavs was a threat we are dealing with on a honig since the beginning of the war, we need an improvement to our defense, finished up there joining us now with more from jerusalem is cnn international correspondent jeremy diamond. >> jeremy, good morning to you. what is the latest on the deployment of this defense system? >> well, kasie, the u.s is set to deploy this fad high high, very sophisticated defense system to israel with about 100 us troops. the united states says that it is to supplement israel's air defenses following iran's ballistic missile attack against israel. and of course it comes at a critical time as the united states and israel have been consulting closely over the planning for israel's retaliation against iran, which we have been told is indeed going to come it is merely a question of what the scope of that response actually is. now,

as all of this is happening, the united states, as it is sending the fad system appears to have reached somewhat of an understanding with israel concerning continued strikes against the lebanese capital of beirut. we haven't seen any israeli strikes in beirut since thursday when we saw that very deadly strike that killed at least 22 people in the lebanese capital. one source familiar with the matter telling us that indeed the deployment of that system is part of this understanding that appears to want to stop or at least limit israeli strikes in the lebanese capital. but there did something major did happen overnight that may change that calculus for the israeli government. and that is one of the deadliest attacks on israeli soil since the beginning of this war carried out by hezbollah using a drone that struck an israeli military training base near the israeli town of binyamina. some 40 miles away from the lebanese border. four israeli soldiers were killed, at least 60 other soldiers were injured in this

attack, including eight of them with serious injuries. the israeli military says that it is investigating this incident because notably, while israeli air defenses do tend to intercept rockets and drones, although drones less so perhaps than rockets in this case, there were not even any warning sirens for that drone that appears to have struck this training base, hezbollah for its part, said that it was able to evade israeli air defenses by firing rockets at the same time as it fired several drones, at least one of which struck this training base in binyamina. we've seen a host of israeli, top israeli officials, including the chief of staff of the israeli military visiting that training base today, a sign of just how significant this event is. and one of course, that could have repercussions for the israeli campaign against hezbollah in lebanon indeed, our jeremy diamond for us in jerusalem, jeremy, thank you very much for that report. all right. we're going to turn back now to the 2024 campaign. kamala harris is warning voters about a new

phrase donald trump has been using to describe some of his fellow americans it's the enemy from within all those scum that we have to deal with. that hate our country that's a bigger enemy than china and russia the enemy within trump, use the phrase again in an interview with fox news yesterday, when he was asked whether he expects chaos on election day from outside agitators i think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. not even the people that have come in and inundated but i don't think they're the problem in terms of election day. i think the bigger problem are the people from within. we have some very bad people. we have some i'm sick people, radical left lunatics. it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national guard or if really necessary by the military all right. >> our panel is back. >> matt gorman, he's saying

that these people should be handled by the national guard or the military what? >> i mean. i think we've learned a lot about whether or not we should believe trump when he says things which is to say he, he is to be, he is to be believed saying, i'm going to use the national guard and the military to take my political enemies out of the country. >> i didn't take that because i watched a clip and they also referenced biden's comments about biden wearing it not be peaceful transfer of power. and earlier in the clip trump referenced that to the way i took it was that obviously, as we know, there are riots in the wake of 2020. there's also riots on inauguration day small. this is much, much smaller scale in dc in 20 in 2017, i took it as national guard and military putting those down and controlling nerves, which i will totally fine with i wish i would have been happened on january 6 that's how i took it because

the clip was a little broader in terms of posts and election day and referencing biden's comments on that so now you took it know and i think that's funny to watch the trump surrogates twist themselves into pretzels. >> i'm not talking about you specifically, but we're going to watch them all twist themselves and say, a version of what you're saying. i think people know what his character ism is to be expected. i don't think he's saying anything that he doesn't believe to be true and that he wouldn't actually do if if he could do it i think hear the case. >> the facts are that donald trump and his one of his closest advisers, stephen miller, have made clear over the course of months, if not this entire year, they have said that whenever donald trump sees fit, he will invoke the insurrection act and use national guard and us military to go into american cities. >> not just to potentially round up migrants, but to crack down on american citizens. there is no the insurrection act. i've talked to legal experts and military experts about this. the president can use it at his own discretion, his or her own discretion. they can decide when a situation they think warrants it. and so

there's no real well safeguard or accountability for the president to be able to use that power, which is why there's a big concern. i think when we also talk about what donald trump is saying in terms of how he would use this presidential power. we should also think about what mark milley recently was found to be saying. and bob woodward's book, which is that he considers the former president a fascist who has authoritarian leanings, who is someone that will totally disregard the rule of law when it comes to using the military or the national guard against american citizens were migrants. >> well, i will say alex, when you look at what the harris campaign is doing lately, if you watch and again, it's always important, pay attention to what kim has actually spending money behind. they're doing negative ads on this absolutely. >> that's a big shift from what they're doing an august, which was really biographical pro kamala harris ads. they are now actually back to where the joe biden campaign was back in june, which is very much focusing on donald trump's conduct on just making this election a referendum on trump.

one extra thing i will add is i can tell you people on the harris campaign inside the biden white house do actually have legitimate private fears of trump justice department going after them if trump were to win, there's a feeling that, you know, even if even have no charges come you know, a lot of people are looking at their bank accounts being like, can i afford a big lawyer? >> there's republicans who also are afraid to that. by the way, like republicans who have now endorsed harris that are worried that if trump were to win, he would potentially they go after them. >> jd vance was out on the sunday shows, kind of trying to explain all of this. i mean, as he has found himself in this position, but here's what he tried to say about whether or not donald trump would prosecute his political opponents if he's reelected, watch would donald trump go after his political polling suggested that in the past martha, he was president for four years and he didn't go after his political opponents. >> you know, who did go after

her political opponents? kamala harris, who has tried to arrest everything from pro-life activists to her police politically said, those people who cheated, horrible address says he has a weapon against people. well, he said that people who violated our election laws will be prosecuted. i think that's the administration of law. he didn't say people are going to go to jail because they disagree with me. that is in fact been the administration and the policy of kamala harris, martha so of course, he said there, alex, that trump was president for four years. he didn't go after his political opponents. the reporting that we know now from these books is that while it wasn't for lack of trying, it was because there were people in his government who said, you can't do that. >> that's absolutely right. and it's complete a historical what he is saying, there has been tremendous man's report, not just in books, new york times had a piece also very recently that really went through, although you can just look at his twitter feed from back then when he was calling on jeff sessions to prosecute experts, and why person, et cetera. so, you know, it's just it's not i understand he's trying to do a political

answer, but it's just not historically, right? >> okay. there we have it. all right. when it comes to harris and donald trump, it's a men versus women in more ways than one up next we're going to look at how this widening gender gap is going to impact the presidential race. plus the federal government forced to pause some of its storm recovery operations due to reports that an armed militia was threatening aid workers will dig into the latest details on that when we returned medowo are they a fruit or a vegetable? >> you're actually both, right? but botanically speaking, the u.s. supreme court ruled that a tomato is a vegetable because of how it's used in cooking i didn't know that now, you do have you ever considered getting a walk in tough? well, look no further safe steps. best offer just got better. now, when you purchase your brand-new saved stamp, walk into, you will receive three shower package. >> yes. >> a green shower package. and if you call today, you'll also

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kamala harris still hoping to shake things up in the waning weeks of this election. >> her latest strategy is releasing details for her medical history and an attempt to bring renewed scrutiny to the health of her opponent harris his position in a letter this weekend says harris, who's 59-years-old, is in quote, excellent health only suffering from mild seasonal allergies and slight nearsightedness who among us, harris also levying an attack against trump. now the oldest presidential nominee american history, it's 78-years-old that just three months ago, he himself may have used against joe biden only focused thing, north carolina and he's not being transparent with the voters. he's not being transplants so check this out he refuses to release his medical records and joining us now, former advisor to george w bush and john mccain, mark mckinnon, he is also the creator of paramount's the circus mark.

>> if it's monday, you're here with us. i'm so grateful to have you. >> let's talk about this. strategy from harris to try to refocus on this. i mean, you've heard people like chris christie, for example, has been out there saying donald trump is not as strong of a candidate and as strong of a place. now as he was in 2016. but we'll work. >> does it matter? >> well good morning, kasie. yeah, it does matter. i mean, that was biden's problem, obviously. >> you can't be 66 and america and be a park ranger or a pilot, but you can run for president and it's good for harris to remind the health records is a good reminder that donald trump is this he knows his base typically the same age as biden was, and people were really concerned about biden. >> so they have reason to be concerned about trump as well. so i think it's a good strategy. and by the way, i think that while panic may not be justified, panics a good thing. i want my voters to be panicked in the last days of an election. i don't want them to be over competent. you want them freaked out and that's a good thing.

>> mark. speaking of panic among democrats, i mean the polling out over the weekend shows the race tightening, right? both abc and nbc showed movement from their september surveys that pulls these two closer together. i certainly am hearing from both democrats and republicans, people seem to think that trump has the edge right now. i'm interested to know what you're hearing on that score and why you think the race is where it is right now always thought to be tied or i've sought to be closed and i'd still rather be her than him. >> listen. >> kamala harris still has more upside. >> trump has a ceiling, even though he's bumping up against that sealing is still a ceiling thanks she has more voters to get and here's a number that i really focused on, kasie and that is that when the land was trump be biden. trump was winning new voters by plus ten. harris has now winning new voters by plus 13 and i continue to say that this race is not so much about undecideds as it is about unregistered and

new voters and getting her base out. and i just make at the end of the day that she's got more upside on new voters and she's got more upside on animated, enthusiastic democratic voters. yes, there's a gender gap, but who's going to be more excited, women who feel a threat because of their reproductive rights are men because trump and i always go back to george w bush was holding his stoic thing that you played off the top today is i mean, that's dark, dark stuff. kasie and bush used to say, nobody is going to say things are going to hell follow me at the end he got to have a little bit of shining city on the hill you madison right. >> and clearly he is taking the darker turn. i mean, i guess my question just for me, why are people turning back toward him in this way at this point, if all of what you say is true it's just a tightening of the base. i think casey and i just again, i always think it was going to be close and he just bumping up against the ceiling

and pay that base is a very dedicated base to trump. so i think the basis just tightening and hardening and that's it, but i still think there's a ceiling and i still think there's more for upside for harris. so again, i think i don't think panic is justified, but it's a good thing to motivate your voters so speaking of motivating voters, mark the times has this front-page story today about the ground game in the final weeks and how harris and trump are using different strategies to get folks out and they write this vice president kamala harris, former president donald trump, staking their chances on to radically different theories of how to win one tried and true, the other untested, ms harris, his team running an expansive version of the type of field organization that's dominated politics for decades to deploying paid staff to organize and turn out every vote they can find. >> mr. trump's campaign is going after a smaller universe of less frequent voters while relying on well-funded but inexperienced outside groups to reach a broader swath of voters in one of the interesting things here to me, mark is that

trump's team seems to think that people that have never voted before are going to go with him, right? in past cycles democrats have always been able to bank on that they've been able to bank on what we get more people out. most of those people are going to go for us. how do you think that group is breaking this time well, i think that if they weren't already for trump, that they're not likely to be and listen, i think at the end of the day in any enterprise, what would you rather have paid workers are volunteers here's pay workers are always better. >> they're always more motivated, and they're always going to do harder work and better work so i think the page strategy is it works because it's worked before and why not go to something that's work. >> so using volunteers to go after voters who've never voted before, i think it's just fishing in a very small pool where there aren't very many fish with, with fishing rods don't have paid on it marked before before i let you go. what are you looking at here in the final days that you think

people aren't paying close enough attention to? >> well, i tell you the one thing that i think people are paying a lot of attention to that may not be a factor which is just this you know, the obsession with the october surprise. and i just think that this may be the election with the surprises that there's no surprise it's interesting that there's usually there'll be one last big debate to kind of focus people which things over the edge one way or the other, or explosion in the middle east worse than it already is or another storm that's worse than, than there to we've already had those may not happen. >> and so it may just simply come down to the mechanics that you're talking about right now, like the voters turnout. it all comes out turnout is the most cliched phrase ever impossible. >> but in this election it may be the one that's really true. i mean, is it, is it possible mark that we're just now incapable of being surprised anymore? >> well that's true listen, after eight years of doing the

circus every week is just like, oh my god, i can't believe it. one more thing. they would have thrown us out of the room if we'd pitch that as fiction, so yeah, you're right. >> i mean, we already gotten to the top of the ticket surprised when the whole that's gotten mark mckinnon always grateful that sir. >> thank you so much for being here and kasie, kick it. all right. >> 52 minutes past the hour. here's your morning roundup police in california arresting an armed man near a trump rally. authorities say the man allegedly had a shock done a handgun, and a high-capacity magazine, and multiple well passports with him in his car to federal officials tell cnn, there's no evidence the man was attempting to assassinate the former president michigan's democratic governor gretchen whitmer, is apologizing for this now viral video in it. whitmer wearing that harris-walz camo hat, aedes, a dorito to a podcaster. this is a recreation of a tiktok trend. the governor said it was meant to promote the bipartisan chips act, which provides funding for microchip

manufacturing in the u.s. but a group representing catholic bishops claimed it mocked the sacrament of communion in a statement, whitmer said that was not her intention just leave tiktok for the kids. you y'all. >> all right. fema forced to pause its aid operations in some areas of north carolina over the weekend due to reports of threats against its workers. >> the washington post reports that national guard troops saw members of an armed militia threatening female workers in north carolina. >> it is not known yet whether the reported threats were credible. we have been reporting this out here at cnn, laura, i know you you're planning a trip to north carolina this is an example of what happens when online conspiracy theories explode into the real world. we now have government workers trying to help americans who can't do their jobs because they have come under threat yeah, not just online conspiracy theories. conspiracy theories promoted by the republican

presidential candidate donald trump and other leading republicans. i was just talking last night, texting some north carolina sources on the ground. one, who is a resident who said that their fema inspection was canceled and they were told by fema that it was because so the fact that the fema inspectors had to go back to their hotel, had to retreat from the field because of these potential threats from militia. and then i was told by another source in a different county that they were hearing that militia was also in that county slightly confronting law enforcement so there is this fear there on the ground right now, and it's also impeding the of these impacted helene survivors to get any of the federal assistance. >> i mean, the big news has been so much that the republican congressman from north carolina a chuck edwards here to put out a fact check. this is the first factor he had to do. so as hurricane helene was not joe engineered by the government to these access lithium deposits in chimney rock, those that's the rumors

that they're having to confront right now. >> yeah. i mean, that press releases just a remarkable modern document and that it kind of lays out point by point by point, all of these things and there are many more, many more than that and then says, look, this is none of this is true and now of course we're here. alright, let's turn now back to the campaign tonight. vice presidential candidate tim walz participating in a hunters and anglers for harris-walz organizing call. it's the latest effort by the campaign to try to leverage walz's folksy football coach and hunter persona to appeal to male voters. this push is coming after poll, after poll tells the same story. women are backing harris by a 14 point margin in this survey, men supporting trump by 16 points, that divide of course, part of the reason former president obama gave this message to black male voters when he made his campaign trail debut last week speaking to men directly part of it makes me think that well you just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman as president as you're coming up

with other alternatives and other reasons for that. these are very times. these are not ordinary elections the widening gender gap over the weekend, making this pitch to female voters i'm aware of the gender gap. >> i see the polling and everybody else does i also think there's some evidence that we've made some progress in the last few weeks, i think two issues in particular where i just make my pitch directly to women when voters shannon is number one on public safety. so what we want our communities to not have these criminal gangs like we see in aurora, colorado running rampage. a final point i'd make shannon is is that inflation often hits young women and women harder than other groups. we know that women sometimes are the ones who see the effects of these higher rents, higher grocery prices, higher electric utility bills because they're the ones who are often administering things our panel is back matt

gorman, we've been having really interesting conversation, but this honestly all morning, we started the show on this i want to play this harris ad that. >> that is basically titled man enough. >> let's watch it. will talk about sidon >> i'm a man and a man enough. >> i'm man enough to enjoy a beverage pharrell proof bourbon, meet men enough to cook my stake rare in afraid of bears, that's what bear hugs and i'll tell you another thing i shared it. >> i'm not afraid of women. >> i'm not afraid of women i'm not afraid of women. they want to control their bodies. i say go for it, and i'm sick a so-called men domineering, belittling, and controlling women, just so they can feel more power. that's not how my momma raised. >> i love women. i love women who support their families. >> women who dislike not to have, women who take charge. >> and i'm man enough to help them win jacob reid, who did that ad was interviewed on cnn. >> i'm like, oh wow, this guy's real because if you

wanted to make it add trolling no better one than that this is the problem like we've talked a lot about our issues with with women as a party and struggles to win them over the last couple of years. they had a democrat to be serious problem with matt. and if you notice to when they're trying to appeal to men, they're doing it in the context of women. it's like i'm not afraid of a woman, it's like that's not a message two men. and i think that is what they are struggling with. they have they just simply don't have a real message and no authenticity which to do it in the method is condescending, right? i know if my party it just comes across as condescending in kind of like ad seems like a joke. me as it is not the way that you would. i mean, if a man talked to me like that, women would be up in arms. they would like to be up in arms. this is the message is so condescending and i think that the authenticity point is a really good one that democrats really wants you go after men. they need to figure out a better way to talk to them and they need to figure out a better way to more genuine to who they are in

their message. >> yeah, it's really on mars versus venous election we go, we nailed already was that election even before you had kamala harris, the top of the ticket, he has to matt's point democrats were struggling with men, this gender gap existed well before you had come my harris sentence up to well and the republican national convention, i mean, this was before harris was at the top of the ticket, was a, you know, let's toss drone fists. >> yeah. >> right. whole colgan tearing the shirt off. >> i mean, tucker karl, like every person that spoke right before donald trump was sort of, you presented themselves, at least since like hyper-masculine dude, right? >> and of course, when you yeah. well, all right. >> mars versus venous election. i think we summed it up right there. >> thanks, sir. panel for being here. thanks to all of you for joining us. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now