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prostate, find it at walmart this situation with wolf blitzer tomorrow at six on cnn glows captioning brought to, you by field away, optimum enhanced calming for cats. if you're catch springs outside the litter box, fights with other cats were scratches the furniture, they could be telling you they're stressed to help them feel more calm, try feel away. >> optimum tonight on 360 with the election just three weeks from tomorrow, vice president harris is speaking right now expected shortly to call out the former president's focus on what he calls the enemy within, meaning americans and his promised us troops to deal with them. >> also tonight, bill clinton weighs in on a notorious murder in the >> the undocumented immigrant accused of it putting the harris campaign on the defensive and later the parents of hersh goldberg, goldberg-polin, a 23-year-old israeli american hostage, murdered a month-and-a-half ago by hamas. speak out. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with breaking news. both candidates
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campaigning the evening and pennsylvania don't trump near philadelphia vice president harris across the commonwealth and erie speaking right now, and expected any moment to speak out against what donald trump has been saying louder and louder as election day gets closer about americans it's scum that we have to deal with. >> that hate our country that's a bigger enemy, that china and russia so that's the former president talking on friday to be perfectly clear about americans and over the weekend, he spoke openly about how he might deal with such people. this was how he answered when asked about outside threats the 2024 election, he quickly change the subject to americans we have some very bad people. we have some sick people, radical left lunatics. and i think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national guard or if really necessary by the military again, he was asked about foreign threats to the election. his answer was about
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potentially turning active duty troops on american something. his running mate was asked about today and here's what he had to say. >> is, it a justifiable use of those assets if they're rioting and looting and burning cities down to the ground, of course, right? i think the question is is it a justifiable use of assets depends on what's actually happening. >> so for perspective, according to the brennan center for justice, the last time active duty troops were deployed on us soil was during the 1992 rodney king riots in los angeles, where the former president seems to be talking about is using troops against people protesting his election. he also is used military stick language about non-existing gang invasion of colorado i will rescue aurora and every town that has been invaded and conquered, these towns have been conquered. explain that to your governor. he doesn't have a clue. >> they've been conquered both colorado's democratic governor and auroras republican mayor called the invasion, talk nonsense. >> perhaps his comments will be
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dismissed by some as hyperbole, but it come on the eve of the publication of bob woodward's new book, in which the former joint chiefs chairman mark milley, who served during the trump administration, described trump as quote ohtani fascist to the core to which woodward writes, quote, i will never forget the intensity of his worry joining us now cnn political commentators van jones and david urban also politico's meridith mcgraw. so van do you think it's an effective strategy for harris to be focusing on these remarks from the former president i think it's an important strategy because i do think that the stakes are getting higher and higher you're seeing donald trump be increasingly disinhibited i mean, he's always been a kind of out there a little bit rough, but increasingly he is talking about using violence against americans in pursuit of his agenda and defensive his agenda it's not hard to say that you don't want russia and china messing up our elections. somebody asked you that question. that's, it's an opportunity to stick up for america on the world stage and says, instead, he says he wants
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to hurt americans this is this is troubling. this is not, i don't think i think harris would be wrong if she didn't point out that for the first time we have a candidate running for office who seemed to be more interested in using american military against americans, that it gets foreign threats david, i mean, do you really believe that the quote-unquote threat from within radical leftist is much greater than the threat of china and russia now, so anderson, let's just be fair and to be fair the president, what i believe she was responding to a question posed by the host saying, if there was violence after the election, what would you do it? and trump responded the national guard could take care of it. and in extreme cases, the military could, to put it in context, let's just be fair. that was there's contexts these questions so it's not like he's out there saying that i'm going to unleash the military on van jones were to come knock on your door and lock up. it's not just not not
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what he said and then to take that even to take it one step further. do you remember in 2016 the chants of lock her up and that trump from the podium saying i'm going to put hillary clinton in jail and the anderson to your point, hyperbole? yes. hillary clinton was not persecuted, prosecuted there was no trial unlike the trial and the persecution that took place at donald trump. and the fake russia collusion hoax that was perpetrated by the dnc after that election. alright by the way, i think harris is now talking about this. >> let's just play this him he's talking about the enemy within pennsylvania. he's talking about the enemy within our country, pennsylvania. he's talking about that he considers anyone who doesn't support him or who will not bend to his will and
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the enemy of our country saying he is saying that he would use the military to go after them. think about this. and we owe you a target and we know who he would target because he has attacked them before journalists whose stories he doesn't like election officials who refused to cheat by filling extra votes and finding extra votes for him judges who insist on following the law instead of bending to his will this is among the reasons i believe so strongly that a second trump term would be a huge risk for america and
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dangerous so that's harris speaking live about this very topic. >> meredith what do you make of her the way she is talking about it? >> well, here we are just weeks away from november 5 and the election and donald trump has given the harris campaign fresh fodder to talk about in the closing weeks at a moment when he has continued to have an edge on the economy and polling, he's repeated now this enemies from within phrase at aurora in california in his interview with maria bartiromo on fox he's even talked about how one of those enemies from within is california congressman adam schiff and at a time when the campaigns are making closing arguments he gave them sort of a political gift here with bringing up this phrase repeatedly. and allowing the harris campaign to plow ahead. i heard that the campaign is planning to cut
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that into a new ad that's featuring former trump administration officials talking about the threat that donald trump poses and so he, him bringing this up is giving, giving them a political gift right now van are in, david is saying, look, this is about what he's saying is if there's violence after an election national guard could be called in that that's you know, that's not unusual well, that was the context first of all, though, only violence after election that we saw was january. the january insurrection that he egged on look, i people can kind of keep whistling past the graveyard but that sort of stuff you're having military officials who have worked with this president coming out in a way. i've never seen usually america's military stays out of this stuff. you have generals and former military people saying this guy is dangerous, it's not
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just kamala harris, who is running for office and maybe it's an well, maybe she's just trying to make political hay. you have people we have no reason to say anything who get nothing out of this waving their arms, jumping up and down, saying, i work with this guy. and i think that he's dangerous when you have general milley saying he's a fascist to the core, he's not a democrat. he's not a kamala harris campaign. he's not from the aclu. this is one of the toughest, roughest his generals we've ever had. who's terrified of donald trump? if donald trump is throwing fuel on the fire, david, do you what would you put much credence in a general milley general kelly, i mean, you're i know you're a west pointer yeah. >> look, i have a great deal of admiration for mark milley's a good friend of mine general kelly, i have a great jill had mentioned for all these men and for different reasons, they have their opinions and they are entitled to their opinions. i don't share those opinions and i know there are lots of other people in uniform who served with the president, other general office serves who served with them. and served closely with him. they don't
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share that opinion understanding with them right now. so amazing about america's everyone's entitled to their opinion everyone's entitled to their vote on election day. so you know, mark milley and i see each other. we have this debate in real life and real time van and we don't, we don't agree about it and we're still friends just like you and i are amazing. >> meredith, the foreign presence rhetoric. i mean, it doesn't seem to be hurting him in the polls, certainly in this election remains obviously he's essentially tied that's got to concern the harris campaign well, we know that this this election is going to be won on the margins here. >> the polling could not be tighter and we've seen in recent days how the harris campaign is deploying former president clinton, former president barak obama to try to gin up some support among the black male voters that they've seen some of the polling has eroded but look, it's going to be incredibly close really tight, and both campaigns are really trying to chip away at really narrow margins of support here. >> then what do you think that
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that support has, has chipped away? >> well, i think that, um, african-american men are, are hurting and uncertain like a lot of folks in the country and i think have a particular set of concerns that haven't been addressed now, i always tried to point out that the vast overwhelming majority of black men above 80% are going to vote for kamala harris either way almost like north korea level numbers now, she has massive support from african americans is just less than before. and i'm actually pretty proud of african-american men from saying we want to hear more specifics. we don't want to just bow part because she is black. we don't want to vote for it because she's a woman when a ballpark, she's going to help us feed our families. she's going to make america strong in a way that makes are community strong. and she responded today. and i think that's great, that she actually responded to those concerns. and i think you're going to see people began to move back in the democratic party direction. but african american men have real problems and just like everybody else, we should be able to save those problems that have both parties
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contend and compete for our support and i. think that's, i think it's healthy and i'm glad it's happening. i'm glad she responded. property van jones, david urban, meridith mcgraw, appreciate it coming up next. former president bill clinton hitting the trail for harris campaign. question is, did he just score points for the trump campaign? later, cnn's elle reeve talking to voters and what could be one of the most pro trump counties in all the battleground states >> have i got loose for us coming to cnn this fall, pros and cons lists pro hosted by roy wood jr. row with amber ruffin would michaelian black? >> oh, okay. what are the kinds we could run that news by then? that really happens to does i'm a start flipping houses i like that idea better no, that's my flipping houses with michael ian black, an amber ruffin provide good news for you, saturday at nine on cnn and streaming next day on max if you have generalized myasthenia gravis picture, would life could look like with
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it's our son, he is always up in our business. it's the verizon 5g home internet i got us. oh... he used to be a competitive gamer but with the higher lag, he can't keep up with his squad. so now we're his “squad”. what are kevin's plans for the fall? he's going to college. out of state, yeah. -yeah in the fall. change of plans, i've decided to stay local. oh excellent! oh that's great! why would i ever leave this? -aw! we will do anything to get him gaming again. you and kevin need to fix this internet situation. heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. finally free. take back control with lipow flavonoid i'm ben wedeman in beirut's southern suburbs. >> and this is cnn former president clinton campaign for vice president harris over the weekend, he also weighed in on a murder case that the trump side has made a large issue of which here's what he said about laken riley's murder allegedly by an undocumented
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man from venezuela yeah, the case in georgia and agreed been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't in america is not having enough babies to keep our population so we need to do work the trump campaign was quick to cast the comments as an indictment of the vice president's handling the border issues, the harris campaign pointed to be bipartisan border bill, the former president blocked president, former president trump, that is, but that was after laken riley's alleged killer entered the united states joining us now is former california republican lieutenant governor able to maldonado also republican strategist and harris supporter and a borrow is bill clinton, rusty out there on the campaign trail. >> was this an error? >> okay. thank you. can take
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anything anybody says, even people as eloquent as barak obama, as eloquent as bill clinton, take it out of context and make it into a gotcha moment i had seen the entire the entire clip of what he had said and he spent the time before this talking about the border bill that did not pass. the point he was making is if we don't want laken riley's to happen again we need to pass comprehensive border bill. we need to have an immigration bill that provides more agents, that provides more jurisdiction, that provides charges for judges letting people reading people. >> that's that's the point he was making. >> but when i listen, anytime you have the big dog bill clinton out in rural areas, he has great at that. one of the things he said was, i asked the harris campaign to send me to the country. >> i know where i belong. i know where my people are. he is great for voter turnout, april. >> do you think he is? >> i think he's a little rusty
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to be very sincere with you. i think we didn't have bidding at the border president trump's last year in office border crossings were way down, but nobody, but in terms of vetting, i mean, you know, i mean, everybody agrees there are not enough judges doing these asylum claims and what it's like a seven year wait under the trump administration, it's like seven year wait. that's ridiculous but we need to remember too. >> anderson, that when president biden came in and kamala harris came in, the very first hundred days, they send a lot of executive orders, a lot of them on immigration which caused catch and release, eliminated, remain in mexico policy. so what happened was people started crushing border anderson and they just sit on the ground. they'd wait for border patrol agent to pick them up and then they'd go get to the processing 72 are processing fee our time and then they go back. they sent somewhere in our country waiting for a court date. so there was zero vetting. right? >> which won't occur for years because the system is so backlogged, which again the harris campaign is pointing out is you need a an actual border
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bill that gets more judges that actually narrows the window of vetting from seven years to hours, the border was secure. anderson so when they saw they need a booster unable the when border numbers were not when they need, you know, a panacea under under trump, listen we want to talk real facts. >> let's talk real had issues under practically every precedent our lifetime, and we need comprehensive immigration reform if we're going to address this in a way, we need bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform, which was what this bill was. >> and let me tell you about, okay. bill clinton now be the bill clinton of 20 years ago, but you know what kamala harris has every able democratic former precedent out there for her? donald trump doesn't even have his wife next to him. donald trump has no former president because they don't like him, not even the former nominee, mitt romney not george w bush, not you know, any of
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the republican leaders that you supported. and i supported are out there, wouldn't with donald the party has gotten rusty over nothing any day of the week. >> the party has completely changed. this is donald j. trump's party. there's no doubt about it. >> i absolutely agree with the people are supporting him in huge numbers, latinos. i mean, did you ever think that 44% of latinos are supporting donald j. trump? that was going on today i african-american hurricane community supporting donald j. why? because his policies worked and they lived under his policies, ana they lived under his policies. and now today today been able community is being choked by inflation. >> let's look at the poll numbers are talking about the latest new york times-siena college poll, likely latino voters, harris at 50 he's 6%, trump at 37%, which is a much lower margin for a democratic nominee that they've had over the past three elections. >> look, i think there's a lot of things going on. one of the things that i found really
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interesting about that poll also was that the majority of latinos thank that when donald trump is making anti-immigrant remarks and when he's making talking with racial slurs and the things he says that we all have heard him say they think it doesn't apply to them and i i have a really hard time understanding that because i, you know, when the shooter showed up at a walmart in el paso and shot 22 people. and then there were another 22 victims. he didn't stop to ask the people if they were legal or are they weren't documented. he just shot people because they look like latinos and he went to ole paso because there was more latinos. one and he was hunting down latinos inspired by anti-immigrant rhetoric. and so to me it boggles the mind that somebody who looks like you, who looks like me, who sounds like you, who sounds like me. think that when he is making anti-immigrant racial offenses, it doesn't apply, but i want to give you last time, i think i think anderson, when president trump is talking,
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he's talking about criminal folks that are being sent to our country. >> we're not you're not talking about latinos that are coming here to work hard. there's a process to come here to work race. >> this is going to ask you for your immigration papers raises is going to ask you for your immigration patterns. anna, do you think believe and they know the prison is not erased. business owner. >> that's why that's why he got investigated by doj for some 47 that means ai has any on that bus. that means you're okay with racism, but it doesn't mean he's not resolutely, never leave it they're out navarro. >> thank you. april mogen. appreciate well, coming up. next talk in politics in what may be the most pro-trump county in all the 2024 swing states will take you there race for the ages here with nibbles, the hamster jumping out to a ten point advantage over joe as the goldfish. what the heck is going on here? >> none, pill it's a decent
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help them feel more calm, try feel away optimum welcome back. cnn's elle reeve traveled all over the country and is known for engaging people in conversations about their politics and beliefs and how they see our world. tonight, she takes us to rural southeast georgia to what may be the most pro-trump county in all of this year's battleground states question. where are you at? >> gosh. >> all right. i have the cnn reporters here and they want to talk to a democrat i'm serious as a heart attack, who's here in town that would talk to him? credit it's hard to find an open democrat and brantley county, georgia, where trump won more than 90% of votes in 2020 of all the counties and all the 2024 swing states. >> it's the most pro trump and we wanted to know why we wrote 9% republican, not because
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anything wrong. hamlin's okay, let's get that on the board. this plane about me we're a small rural county. lot of folks here live paycheck to paycheck and wonder too much month at the end of the money. people vote want a wall? i want point john, the democratic party was for the working man, and the republican party was for all the elites. and somewhere that got switched around, some of that stuff, everybody here calls him president trump as far as the people in the round here is concerned, he's still the president democrats didn't used to be rare here. almost everyone we spoke to said the grandfather had been one, but those days are gone numbers do not lie. >> watching people five and six years ago, they have successful businesses. they were thriving, they were doing well every time somebody comes as kevin will have to close it relatively hearts, interests it's got a heat pressed to make customer t-shirts. and it turned out that one kind of design really helps pay the bills. >> i've learned how to put it on my computer and kind of change things as long as it can still sell donald trump stuff. >> we doing good. >> there, just $5.01 of her
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customers was sherry raul. we met her while she was buying a trump sign and she said we could come soon. the or put it up. her grandson tallinn died in an accident december before he could vote in his first election. >> he did loving flynn trying to get eight time about 15lb vote for trump. >> now you just got us first job and he was like i make, you know, $9 an hour and i work this many hours. why do i only make this much money? and i told him, i said, son, it's politics. you got to pay taxes. talent became really intrigued with it and started doing some more research and he said, you dad, looking at what me and you talked about, we need donald trump in office and he just became a huge trump supporter. >> his parents said he would want people to know he was for trump and so they put the sign-up because he's not here to say it himself. >> buying china's pretty fast on what went from trump to biden, even dicus a difference even the kids. yeah. i can take it to the piggly wiggly and i have a and you just look at the process. i don't know where
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you come from, but can compare it to what we've had four years ago is triple there are some statistics that show that younger women are more likely to be for harris do you see any evidence of that here in this county? i don't really in this county, but i do know some younger females there are very much a harris person. and i mean, i'm not against sir, if i thought she'd be going to do differently what was already in there, you know, once saying like she should have come out running independent that i'm not what listened to her a little more the next day at a diner, were regulars talk politics when biden claim that he had more jobs and created more jobs that's only because of corona because everything shut down. that was not trump spoke. >> the jobs report numbers. we're really good for september that just came out and said, the american people number you ain't take that and give
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leaving, when it's when it's going up deal we get up. we continue to work. we continue to fight and we'd make this country better today. nobody in washington got a ride. they take credit for what the american people have done or we didn't want to leave town without hearing a different point of view. >> so they called some old friends to come by and so on. >> some folks will be able to talk and tell him to hurry up. i want to go fishing loud cme the border is do you want me to democrat and rapid deli counter they were futile war, which way you were there look you, all of you and all okay what are your views on the election i know vote for a criminal well, what he did in january that six and you know,
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and the way he killed her little stark mad i will make no, ma'am. got down there where's europe there are other democrat high and can join she's a cnn reporter and he won't. some democrats and brand, but jamie's, he can't find one i told her i knew a couple. she said please call or pleases you wouldn't quiz. tell us. is i have voted republican. >> yeah. >> yeah. i loved for the man. i don't love for their holiday so what are your thoughts on the election on my thoughts on what on the election night, the most think about it. well, who are you going to vote for? >> correct person? >> well, he used in the wreck first, be donald trump. >> okay. tell me why last time you saw him talking, did you watch his lips are moving? he's lying all right. >> well, so mr. wilson here was telling us that january 6 was a
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big disqualifier for him, shouldn't have been what how do you feel about that? >> helped him about like he's anti american he's trying to overthrow our government. >> and so are you thinking about voting for harris? >> yeah, i have to or not vote. >> he's the only john wheeler than drop yes it's probably run out vote for him you know what's nice is that they're your own friendly and, you know they were they called them, asked him to come over. >> oh, yeah. this was one of the nicest places we've ever reported from places where that have been more close slay divided, gotten yelled dad, i've been scolded, but everybody here was really, really nice to. >> so what else stood out? i mean, in terms of their economic concerns, what are they well, i of course i wanted to ask him, what did they think of the democrats ideas for addressing that economic problems in the area? >> what did they think about raising taxes on rich people? something like that? they were
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not impressed they are older people there concerned about their kids not doing so well. they want to pass stuff down to their kids and david here on the demand with the big beard, he said he ran a trucking company on paper. he's worth $10 million. so he didn't want his staff to pay highest state tax is for his nasa elie reid. >> thanks so much. really appreciate it up next, it's been more than a month since the israeli military confirmed that hersh goldberg-polin an israeli american held hostage in gaza, was murdered by hamas. and for the first time since his murder, i'll speak to his parents who have fought tirelessly for his release. >> erin burnett outfront tomorrow at seven on cnn ryan reynolds here for i guess, my hundreds meant to our show wireless for $15 a month. me honestly, when i started this, i thought only have to be like for how are there still people paying two or three times that
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killed and 65 injured in israeli strike overnight on a hospital courtyard in gaza, according to the medical group doctors without borders, this was the seventh time this year that this hospital compound was bombed over the weekend, also, at least four israeli soldiers were killed and more than 60 others injured in a hezbolh drone attack. on an israeli military base. around the same time as that attacked a u.s. military announced it is sending an advanced anti-missile system and about 100 us troops to israel to operate it. the pentagon says the u.s. troops will quote, help bolster israel's air defenses following her iran's unprecedented attacks meanwhile, it's believed more than 100 hostages are still being held in gaza. hersh goldberg-polin was kidnapped on october 7. i first learned about him a few days afterward when an idf soldier showed me this video of a young man being loaded into a pickup truck, his head had been blown off. i didn't know it was hersh who's israeli american until a few days later when i happen to interview his parents. at the
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time, they were unaware of the video existed and they didn't even know if he was alive. i called them after the interview to tell them what i'd seen and i sent them the video since then, i've spoken to hersh's parents a number of times in april, a propaganda video was released by hamas showing hersh he was, he urged his family to stay strong and gave proof that he was alive. but at the beginning of september, the israeli military said they recovered the bodies of six hostages who were murdered by hamas, including hirsch's earlier today for the first time since his death, i spoke with his parents, rachel and jon jon and rachel. thank you so much for talking with me. it's been it's been a month and a half since you learned the news that hersh had been had been killed? along with other hostages what are the last what's the last month-and-a-half been like for you well i mean, i think anybody who suffers a trauma loss as some sense of what
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we're realizing, what we're going through i'm not trying to compare us to anybody else in trauma but what is different here is, as you know, well, anderson for 330 days, we were on a global campaign to save the life of persian other hostages. we knew that they were suffering renewed. they're being held in terrible conditions. we can talk more about that, but we were on a mission all day hey, every day and we believed our own optimism. we really thought we are bringing him home. we look forward, anderson tu meeting hirsch and to get the news on august 31 that they found six bodies, including hirsch's was just such a crushing blow. and we are still grappling with it. we are we are oddly blessed because there are hostage
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families who know that their loved ones were killed and their bodies are still being held. and they were not able to give them, at least yet a proper, respectful burial. so were grateful that we got hirsch's body and that we're able to give him that respect but it's it's crushing to spend those days so optimistic, so hopeful. so focused to have an end like this i i imagined meaning him as well, and i imagine him getting on a plane on december 27 of this year. >> which he was supposed to do december 27, last year for a trip to india and i imagined all of that i'm i'm i'm stunned i guess not surprised, but it's stunned. and just so sad and for your loss and the loss of so many rachel, for you. what is this been like
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well, i think that in order to get through the 11 months before day 330 i was using so much psychological suppression in order to function. >> you know, there was so much trauma and terror that we were experiencing as parents of someone there that i was shoving all of this emotion and fear and as, you know, suitcases and shoving those suitcases into a room and not dealing with that because we were in battle, we were on a mission. and in order to function, i had to suppress so much so i don't want to look back at those 11 months. i don't want to unpack those
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suitcases. i also don't want to look ahead at what does life look like without hirsch in it so i'm kind of trapped in this very immediate present. and i'm just trying to get through each day. i think we are in the first centimeter of 1 million miles journey of how do we get through the rest of our lives yearning and missing our son? >> i was looking at the calendar. it's been it was october 16 last year that you and i spoke for the first time. today is october 14 and i really meant what i said. i to come home
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>> spend so much time beyond our public campaign in our in our apartment with her two daughters, literally planning what it was going to be when we brought them home. >> what would the family look like? >> what would the celebration look like what kind of tone would it have? like we're getting into those details. >> and you know, we've said this elsewhere, but maybe maybe our optimism was something that drove influencers to lack urgency to feel like he's going to come home at some point somehow. >> and mail-in fact, maybe maybe it was to infectious and it just it made the urgency that they needed i don't know i really feel blessed that i was hersh's mom for as long as i was and although obviously
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this is the first, you know moments in this lifetime of how do you live with something that's really big and painful. >> and not let it sort of drown you. >> i really we've really made the choice that we really would like to not just exist, but we want to live. >> we want to live for our girls. >> and the truth is, i want to live for hersh i want to live the life that her should've lived. and that's a life filled with, love and happiness and light. >> and we will always have this deep, you know still possible to have that boyd and two he happy. and choose life. i do think that i was talking to my daughter's about it today and we spoke to
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yoni levy about that the other day. we said i said on her unholy podcast that people walked out of auschwitz and they went on to have good lives. and some people walked out about and they never left auschwitz weird thing, anderson, where last year, saturday night, october 7 at midnight, i walked in from the police station where i'd been dropping out dna samples and remember that saturday night, we assumed person was dead and we have the chance to sit in a room and cry and talk and say then if he's dead we're gonna mourn. >> we're going to grieve but we have the live life eventually for ourselves, for our girls and for hersh and then in erie way, we had the exact same conversation on sunday, september 1st, 331 days
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later 330 days in between of optimism and hope next more on my conversation with the parents of hersh goldberg polin, what they've learned about his time in captivity coming up >> we look at the news of the week and asked questions like, what does a comedy show doing on cnn? >> people have spoken i have something racist to say you go now wait up freestyle. that's too much i want donald. now, can you fleiss that provide got news for you saturday at nine on cnn and stream next day on max. >> it's the holidays at wayfair. yeah. it's a gift swap. you've got a swap, your guests. this pill always. so me, yes, that's because you brought it
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shared part of my conversation with hersh goldberg-polin parents about the grief they've been experiencing since learning that hersh was murdered in a tunnel in gaza here's more of our interview john, have you learned more about hersh's time as a hostage is it least towards the end of his captivity, and we don't know for exactly how long hersh and five others lax ovary, a-m-o-c carmel and eddin we're held in a tunnel 65 feet underground, a tunnel that was just over two feet wide and five-and-a-half feet tall hirsch's six feet tall. so he and most of the others could not stand in this tunnel. there was hardly any air, no light, no plumbing no real floor. i mean, it was a dirt tunnel the six bodies were found in a
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tunnel but had six narrow mattresses that we can only assume that when they were able to get any sleep, they would line them up head to toe because that's the only way they could possibly fit conditions in which these bodies were found. the bodies were found on saturday, august 31, the belief is that they were killed roughly two days earlier on thursday, august 29 gunshot wounds and all had suffered a severe weight loss. hershu, as i said, was just about six feet tall, came out at 115 pounds again, a five foot five woman, 24-years-old came out at 79 pounds and on and on non similar stories across all of them. >> we also know that the in the tunnel, they were surrounded by bottles of you're in that when
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they had to go to the bathroom, they would go in these bottles and so there were many, many bottles of very dark you're in showing how dehydrated they were we know that they were starving because they were all completely emaciated at the toward one end of the tunnel. they had put a plastic bucket for you know, some sort of privacy when they had to use the bathroom, not for you're in conditions are horrifying and that is so much of john was describing happened to her. but we have spoken extensively to forensic experts who've sort of dissected for us the report of what happened specifically to hersh, and it looks that you know, his left hand had been
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had been missing since he was abducted on october 7 last year, but it seems that when he was being shot, that he had put up as a defense his both arms. so bullet went through his right hand through his shoulder, actually, then into his neck and then out of the side of his head it looks that then he supposedly he was standing, crouched over because of course he couldn't stand up straight because he was too tall to stand in the five foot five tunnel. they think that then he dropped to his knees and then he was shot with the gun on his head. the back of his head, which exited the top of his head and he was found on his knees two days later, and eddin, yerushalmi was resting, her head was resting on his
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side or on his lap, and she had also been shot multiple times as had all four others. rachel and jon. is there anything else you want to say or you want people to know? >> i mean, i think we just finished, we're in the part of the jewish calendar where we just finished very somber, serious rosh hashanah is the judgment day and then we have a ten day period between russia, shana the home kippur war, which is the day of atonement, which was just on saturday. and you know, we have a very big idea of how does one repents when someone feels that they have done something not not hitting the mark correctly and the way that you do that in judaism is when you find yourself in that same situation
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next time, do you choose to do differently and we've had so many people say to us that they are so sorry and they feel so bad about what happened to her. and these other five beautiful young people. and we have said to everyone don't be sorry. >> go save the one u1 and so as people from all over the world, people have power and influence from all different countries. people in the negotiating room, people adjacent to the negotiating room, i would just be c2 go and get these people rachel goldberg and jon polin. thank you thank you. thank you. anderson. >> the news continues right here on cnn warning black men about voting for donald trump with just 22 days to election day. will it work?
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