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lebanon with missile strikes going after hezbollah fighters and leaders, iran is valid not to back down the speaker of iran's parliament, even piloting an iranian government jet into beirut before touring areas heavily damaged by israeli strikes pay on i'm hearing a message from the supreme leader to the lebanese people. he said with the assurances that in these difficult conditions should be islamic republic of iran she'll stand with lebanon's nation and the resistance and all areas this as iran braces for israel's possible retaliation for tehran's massive ballistic missile attack on october 1 iranian foreign minister warning the u.s. against deploying missile interceptor systems to israel and the threat of a major regional war about all we're prepared for any kind of circumstances. >> he said, we're ready for
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war, but we're also ready for peace. this is the definitive stance of the islamic republic a stance they want to show that also involves mobilizing resources from iran, its population for pleitgen, cnn, tehran thanks for joining us. the source starts now tonight, kamala harris goes all in on donald trump's enemy from within comment unleashing a searing attack after trump's suggested using the us military on election day to handle what he calls radical left lunatics thomas for me we're defense secretary will react. harris is also launching a major new campaign, push tonight, aimed at shoring up support from black men just days after former president barack obama sounded the alarm and at least six new accusers tonight are filing lawsuits against sean "diddy" combs, claiming claims there ranging from grace i've been sexual assault, drugging drinks, as well. one of the
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allegations even involving a then 16-year-old boy, i'm kaitlan collins. and this is the source though, is kamala harris and donald trump are holding dueling events. and what could be the place that decides at all. and just a few weeks from now, the commonwealth of pennsylvania onstage, just a few moments ago, the vice president just use the former president's words against him. after he suggested using the u.s. military on election day to go after what he called bad, sick, and radical left lunatics and other words. his political opponents with within pennsylvania that he considers anyone who doesn't support him or who will not bend to his will and the enemy of our country. he is
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saying that you would use the military harry, to go after them. we only have a target. we know who he would target because he has attacked them before. journalists whose stories he doesn't like election officials, who refused to cheat by filling extra votes and finding extra votes for him judges who insist on following the law. instead of bending to his will this is among the reasons i believe so strongly that a second trump term would be a huge risk for america and dangerous donald trump is increasingly unstable and unhinged that was harris onstage in erie, pennsylvania. she did something that we don't normally see. her do at her rallies, which is she heard
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and played sound bites of trump and his quotes and what he has said previously. now i want to let you hear the exact quote that she was talking about. there when trump was asked yesterday morning on fox news if he thought that there would be chaos on election day, he said he wasn't worried about eddie from his supporters or from bad foreign actors. but then he said this i think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even the people that have come in and destroying our country. by the way, totally destroying our country. the towns, the villages they're being inundated. but i don't think they are the problem in terms of election day. i think the bigger problem are the people from within. we have some very bad people people, we have some sick people, radical left, lunatics and i think there it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national guard or if really necessary by the military he, wasn't done though. those comments, then he
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got specific and named a name that came to mind thing that's tougher to handle these lunatics that we have inside. >> like adam schiff, adam schiff to shift total sleazebag is going to become a senator. but i call him the enemy from within congressman adam schiff responded to that quote there and wrote on social media just as he incited a mob to attack the capitol, he again, stokes violence against those who oppose him my source tonight is donald trump's former secretary of defense, mark esper. >> secretary esper, thank you for being here when you hear what trump is talking about. do you take those comments seriously? >> well i think we should always take the comments of political leaders and other leaders seriously absolutely. he's spoken about this before. >> if you recall, a year ago or so, he spoke about a second trump term being about retribution. >> so yes, i think we should take those words seriously.
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>> well, i just think about what you wrote in your book. during the george floyd marches and protests in 2020, he asked about shooting protesters. and as you wrote, you said, you quoted him saying, can't you just shoot them? just shoot them in the legs or something. and so when he's saying that the enemy from within should potentially be handled by the national bard and if necessary, the u.s. military, do you fear that he would try to utilize the national guard the military against us citizens yes, i do, of course, because i lived through that and i saw over the summer of 2020 where a president trump and those around him, one to use the national guard and various capacities and cities such as chicago and portland, and seattle. >> and of course there was a moment in time as you just describe where he on that early date in june where he wanted to bring an active duty military as well. so that's what equally concerns me about his comment would be the use of the
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military in these types of things. now, the good news is, i don't believe he has the authority under the law to use the military unless there was some type of civil civil disobedience or insurrection in which case that would be used. the insurrection act. but otherwise, these other roles at he's described in the past, our law enforcement that is prescribed under the posse comitatus act. so he would not be able to use it now, i'm not a lawyer, but this would be a good discussion to have, but my sense is his inclination is to use the military in these situations. whereas my view is that it's a bad role for military, it should only be long, it should only be law enforcement taking those actions. >> but just to hear a former defense secretary say they are fearful that the person, the president they served under the commander-in-chief, they served for would use the u.s. military against us citizens. i mean, you were in that role when he suggested shooting protesters before. aren't you worried about who could be in that role
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when he suggests something like that potentially again we yes, i've said that on many occasions, kaitlan that my concern is that the last year of the first trump term will look more like the first year of the second trump term will look more like the last year of the first trump term. >> i think president trump has learned the key is getting people raju who will do your bidding, who will not push back who will implement what you want to do. and i think he's talked about that his acolytes have talked about that i think loyalty will be the first litmus test, so yes, of course it concerns me on many levels. not least of which is the impact that could have on americans and citizens. it's the impact on the institution of the military. the impact it could have on the professional ethic of our officers and ncos and soldiers and sailors and airmen. so i'm concerned about all these things, all the impacts on multiple levels. >> and bob woodward's new book, he quotes someone you worked with that you served with us, retired general mark milley, who trump handpicked to be the
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chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and he is quoted directly is calling the former president. and i'm quoting mark milley now, the most dangerous person in this to this country and a fascist to the core. do you i mean, you served with mark milley. do you agree with those comments for mark milley. >> he and i are close friends. i understand where that sentiment is coming from. a frankly, i wish he and other four-stars would stay out of the political process. but look, i'm not going to get into that. i've said in the past that i believe donald trump is unfit for the presidency. i think for many reasons, beginning with lack of character second, the fact that he would put him he puts himself before the country in american people and a few other reasons so i'm not going to kind of get in the mud. i believe we need to elevate our civil discourse i've avoided name-calling and things like that and making those types of comparisons. but i've laid out my case as to why i don't think he's fit for the office yeah.
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>> and you've said you won't be voting for him this election. >> secretary mark esper. thank you for your time. >> thanks. kaitlan my political sources are also here with me tonight. >> former communications director for vice president harris and the co-host of the trail-blaze podcast, jamal simmons, former trump deputy white house press secretary sarah matthews, and national political reporter for the new york times, astead herndon. you also worked for donald trump use since endorsed vice president harris, you're voting for her in this election. but what when you hear trump say the enemy from within, and he makes clear his name drops a us lawmaker who has investigated him as someone that he considers the enemy from within. what do you make of those comments? >> i think it just shows you what a second trump term is going to be about. it's not going to be about making america great again, it's not going to be about bettering the lives of people in solving their problems that they're facing. it's all going to be about him and his retribution that he's seeking and him trying to gain as much power as possible. so that way he can get that retribution. and i
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think that it was really smart tonight. the vp's rally that she held in pennsylvania, she played clips of his own words where he talks about the enemy from within or things like that where it shows that he's just going to bring more chaos and more division. and it was really smart of her to show that message in front of voters it can be reminded of him because i think that that's why you're seeing his team tried to shield him they didn't do 60 minutes. they're not doing a second debate. all because they know that the more voters see of him, the more they'll actually see what his real message is about what and she never does that. i mean, i was watching the rally and i texted one of for her aides and i said, has she ever played trump's own clips at a rally before? i mean, we've seen trump played clips but we've never seen her actually do that. or what do you make of that strategy? because if you look at the bellwether of bellwethers, i fully if you look at what they've been doing, the harris campaign has been going on these big mass market events like 60 minutes. she's going to go on fox news well, the trump campaign, trump's has been going on these very niche conservative
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outlets. so the people who actually need to see the trump crazy of the trunk crayon chaos. they're not getting exposed to it, just she's got exposing themselves. here's what i wonder why didn't, if he really wants to do this, he doesn't have to talk about it now. so the question i wonder is, why is he mentioning these things now is makes me think there are voters out there that he is still trying to punch up. he's still trying to get them excited to come out and vote for him. and maybe they just need to see him continue to be a pugilist, do something else that's getting them animated some reason why he's saying this. it's not just that he's popping off. >> well, and astead i mean, we've seen a bunch of republicans being asked about this. glenn youngkin, jake tapper was asking him earlier, just reading the exact quote. jd vance was also asked his running mate obviously, about this earlier. they keep trying to argue that he's talking about migrant criminals who are coming across the border illegally. this is what jd vance had to say earlier just fine. >> we'll use of those assets as the rioting and looting and burning cities down to the
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ground. of course that happens if you have a major reaction to a, to an election in 2024. >> of course, you want to commit law enforcement resources to bring order back to our cities. what does donald trump? i mean by enemy with them? how do you interpret well, i think one of the ways i interpreted is in the past 3.5 years but harris is open border has allowed at least hundreds and maybe thousands of people that we know are on the terrorism watch list when those are not caveats, those are not. that's not what donald trump was saying earlier. >> yeah. and i think we've seen this from his surrogates throughout this campaign. >> it's efforts to rewrite donald trump's own words, to reinterpret donald trump's own words. but this is where donald trumps consistency over these years is helpful. we know that he is very consistently tried and talked about ginned up supporters around jailing political opponents, targeting political opponents. we know that that's ratcheted up in the last couple of years as he has faced his own legal problems. i don't know if there's a political angle to this more than a person son who
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feels aggrieved by a system and has made very clear that to sara's point in the next term, he would use that system to turn against his opponents. i think what harris is doing makes a lot of sense in the in isolation, it is an attempt for them to recast donald trump as extreme to recreate that anti-trump coalition that we've seen be strong in the midterms and other previous elections. and i think if you add up the light of the statement, she's made over the last couple of weeks. she's clearly making a play for those disaffected republicans, the people who voted for democrats in the midterms and trying to make a case that she can be a home for them. i think that's a reversal from the kind of 2019 more liberal progressive posturing that she was doing at that time and trying them what kind of a brief position herself as someone. who i think is expecting an electorate that is going to try for democrats to recreate the, what we have seen be the most consistent political coalition over the last several years, an anti-trump. what this is the reason why the nikki haleys of the world the anti-trump republicans the world think they will be in a better position with a different type of candidate because when
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donald trump opens his mouth on these issues, americans are reminded of things like january 6 and his kind of extremism on that front. >> we have one of them sarah matthews and don't go anywhere because we have more questions for you about the strategy coming up in that coalition. because something that vice president harris was also doing today was launching an effort to try to court black men. this is something that trump was boasting tonight through the roof with black and hispanic have gone through and i liked that i liked that were also deliver the latest on new lawsuits against sean sean "diddy" combs, among the accusers is now a teenage boy of the disturbing details for you ahead taxes, but billionaires are getting away with paying less in taxes than we do. donald trump gave them a huge tax break and wants to give them another one, is hell, we're
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intact wrong. >> and this is cnn go in a race that could not be closer. >> vice president harris is pushing hard to shore up cracks in a key democratic voting bloc she specifically trying to boost her numbers with black men that effort comes with a new policy proposal, targeted ads in key states. and also interviews with black media outlets with moments like this
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you're saying black man aren't as quote excited or fired up for you. >> how do you respond to that? >> well, that's not my experience. >> okay one that's not my experience to election day has not arrived yet. >> okay and the third point that is probably the most important point. black men are no different from anybody else they expect that you have to earn their vote i intend to earn the vote of everyone, including black men to pay attention to everything that president obama talked about because he also talked about at length the danger of donald trump my source tonight is the democratic governor of maryland, wes moore, governor. >> thank you for being here. you're obviously also a surrogate for the harris campaign, and i want to talk about the state of her campaign because right now polls show that she is getting a lot of support from black men, relatively speaking but it's much lower than what president biden got, 70% so far have said
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they will vote for her. and just about three weeks from now, that's compared to the 85% that voted for president biden in 2020. if those defections, those changes in the numbers holds how alarming is that to you? >> well i don't think they're going to hold because i think that the vice president go out there and earn it. i think people forget when you're looking at the distance between president biden's numbers and where people have vice president harris is is that is that president biden for all these years that we've seen the work that has happened under the biden in harris administration. we've seen that now we have the lowest recorded unemployment rate amongst african african-americans in recorded history we've seen how black wealth has increased by 60% since the start of the pandemic. i think what the vice president is doing right now is, you know, a were going out there and reminding people that this is the biden-harris administration no. the policies that people saw from president biden that increase black wealth and increase the support of black entrepreneurship or
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policies that were being done by both of them simultaneously. but then also the reason that this opportunity agenda for black men is so important is it's building off the success that we've seen. and that's why i think people will continue to know that not only is the vice president going to go out there and earn it, and really earn the support of black men. they are seeing that she is the candidate with a real plan, with a detailed philosophy and actually real, real pathways to work, wages, and wealth for african african-american men in our society does this agenda rolled out today go far enough to appeal to those black men who, who so far have not said that. >> they're ready to vote for her. do you think more still needs to be done in these next three weeks before election day well, the thing i'm really thankful for is this is an agenda that i worked on and so many others worked on as well because we know this is what works. >> we know that if you just look at the state you'd have maryland that we were able to turn historically historic low unemployment rates by being able to do things like focus on
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workforce development and workforce training and removing barriers for people who are coming home from incarceration that we're able to do things like raise wages and actually focusing on housing supports. and if you look at the opportunity agenda these are exactly the policies that she has correctly laid out, putting together $25,000 in financial support for first-time homebuyers, being able to give $1 million forgivable loans to black entrepreneurs know these are things that we know that work because they are happening in maryland, their happening on the state level and having a the president who doesn't just see that but is willing to work in partnership to make that scale in the national level is incredibly exciting. and i think you will see how that will resonate with black voters as well. >> well, and so you think that what she's rolling out today will be effective is what you seem to be arguing there. i want you to listen president obama has now how been deployed on the campaign trail, arguably one of the most effective democrats, people in your party to help campaign and stump for
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41. but this is what he said two black men who he was saying last week may be considering just sitting out this election altogether. >> excuses alternatives and other reasons for it i'm curious, governor, do you agree that it could be sexism? that's weakening her support? black man, you know, we, we know and appreciate the power of black women you know, i was raised by a strong black woman. i am married to a strong black woman. i got strong black woman as sisters i know and appreciate the power of black women in all of our lives. so they have served as a spine, not just of our society, but also in our individual lives.
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now, i do think that understanding that sexism is still a very real thing in our society. but also saying that the, that black men in the vote of black men has to go out there and being earned those don't have to be mutually exclusive. ideas. and i think the vice president understands that the vice president understands that for many black men in our society, that the skepticism is real. and it's not had to do with her, and it doesn't have to do it. the democratic party, it has to what the frustration with the pace of progress in america that many black men have been left behind the many black men do feel not just frustrated, but also feel like the system does not work for them. and so to go out there and really earned the black male vote, it means you have to go out there and earn it, put together policies that show that they can create real pathways for them to be able to own more than they owe. and they can pass something off to their children besides debt coming up with real chances to make sure that our young black boys are being taught how not just to be employees, but how to be
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employers and know that it means going to them and not necessarily asking black men to come to us. that is the way you win elections. that is the way you show that the plan and the opportunity agenda that the vice president's putting forward is not about the next 20 the one days. it's about the next 21 years. and that's why i think this is going to matter. and that's why i think you will see black men and will be out there pushing for it, will know that the right choice is kamala harris to lead the nation going forward. >> what do you think it is that's behind trump's appeal to black men because when you look at his numbers, where he was in 2020, he was at 8% new york times-sienna college poll in 2024 is right now he's at 20%. we'd given what you just laid out, what harris is trying to do to appeal to these voters to show that she does want meaningful change. why do you think trump's numbers have gone up? >> i, think donald trump appeals to the skepticism i think donald trump is very good at dissecting the problem so
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when donald trump says that, you know what, that many black man have not had a chance to benefit from economic growth that we have seen over generations in our society he does it because he's prescribing the problem. when donald trump talks about the racial wealth gap. and in my state, we had an eight to one racial wealth gap when i was inaugurated as governor. and that's not because one group worked eight times harder. it's because of policies that have been put in place. donald trump will talk about that because he's very good at diagnosing the problem what he does not do is offer a real solution that donald trump really is. he's a vessel for the frustration, but he is not a vehicle for the solution. and that's the thing that i think that black men and particularly as we're going out there and talking to black men and particularly younger black men. i mean, it's not lost i'm the only black governor in this country and one of the youngest governors in this country i'm. speaking specifically for and to a demographic and saying that we understand the skepticism. i understand that it's real and truthfully
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kamala harris is the only one that is coming up with real solutions to be able to address it and make our lives better as the governor of maryland, it's obviously the state in the dmv and the dc area what are you personally doing given how close we are to this election, how close these numbers are? >> in case trump does win. i mean, theoretically he certainly could if the election is tomorrow, we don't know how these numbers actually pan out, but are you as a governor, personally preparing in case he does go back to the white house that i can to make sure that he does not go back to the white house. i plan on working every single day for the next, as we say, in the military, 20 days and wake up. and i plan on having no voice left and i plan on having all the skin from my knuckles gone from knocking on as many doors as i can but also i know there is a responsibility that i have to the people of my state to make sure that they are safe and that no matter what the election results are, that they are going to be okay and so
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even, even though we know that this is going to be a challenging period, and even that period between election day and inauguration day could be a very challenging period for our country. i want the people of my state to know that we have already focused time, energy, efforts and resources to ensuring that the people of my state are going to be safe and that this election is going to be fair and free and also that no matter the results of the election, that the people of my state are going to, are going to be better off. >> i just ask of it because i mean maryland has a big part of the federal workforce that that lives in your state. i think it's probably over 100 and close to 150,000 of them, you know, the number better than me obviously i mean, trump is talking about slashing the federal workforce. we're hearing from vivek ramaswamy, elon musk. all these people i mean, is that something you're preparing for? >> well it's part of the reason that i'm making sure that i'm doing everything in my power to make sure that he doesn't win because you are right. i mean, if you look at project 2025 it is it is disturbing on a collection of different levels when you're talking about the elimination of the department
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of education when, you're talking about a weaponization of the department of justice, when you're talking about the elimination of career employees mid-level career employees. again, people who have served democrats and republicans, these are not political people. these are people who just wake up every single day and do their job no, matter whether the president had democrat or republican and what project 2025 is talking about is the elimination of those mid-level jobs, turning them all into political appointees. and you're absolutely right as the governor of maryland, that has distinctly dangerous to us because many of those people who we're talking about those are marylanders and we have moved when i was inaugurated, we are 43rd in the country in unemployment. we now have amongst the lowest unemployment rate in the entire country at 2.82, 0.9%, we worked hard to be able to get those numbers down. but if you incorporate project 2025 into our national dialogue and our national conversation, this will have stink impacts on our states and most importantly, it will have a distinct impact on the state of maryland.
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>> yeah. and of course, trump has distanced himself from project 2025, but interesting to hear you talk about what it would mean for your unemployment right? governor wes moore, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you so much. kaitlan. thank you next, donald trump is now demanding the vice president harris undergo a cognitive exam. >> she is saying that he he's unfit, an unstable saturday at nine on cnn? and softness this is why we need the best sachs and slippers and the history of off your first-order ocd is more than what you see on tv. >> and in the movies, it comes with unrelenting intrusive images, thoughts, and urgent if you have ocd and need help, you can get better, with specialized treatment. go to know cd cd.com to learn more as
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anymore questions. >> this just listen to music. let's make it into her >> always dances at the end of his rallies storm sometimes going off stage during the ymca. but we watched that tonight. it went on for about half an hour. i should note the music did start there are there were some medical emergencies in the crowd, but it just kept going when trump occasionally exchanging words with the south dakota governor kristi noem that you saw there on the left, choose one who moderated this town hall but mostly the foreign president was on stage just looking out as the music was blasting this is all coming as vice president harris is suggesting that the former president is hiding from the american people when it comes to interviews his staff won't let them do a 60 minutes interview. >> every president for the last
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half century has done when anyone who's running for president, everyone has done it, except donald trump he will not debate me again. i put out my medical records. he won't put out his medical records. and you have to ask, why is this staff doing that and it may be because they think he's just not ready and unfit, and unstable and should not have that level of transparency for the american people my political sources are back here at the table, astead, i mean, watching the trump moment tonight. >> it wasn't just what you normally see at a rally. i should be clear. his team is defending it saying, you know, harris could never do this. that's what they're tweeting. but it is a question of, you know, worth three weeks out from the one day out from the election, you're in a huge, important place like pennsylvania you know, you're making that last-minute appeal to voters you're doing the ymca dads, it's a little bizarre, but i would say that the 2024 version of trump, the candidate, is a little more bizarre than the 2021 or the 20161. i think that the
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argument that harris makes here is one that's now available to democrats after this candidates switch. and frankly, the one that i hear even from some of trump fans who feel like the rallies are a little more meandering, who feel like his speeches are a little more of not focused. and i think that reflects a candidate well, it's a pretty difficult task in this election, turning those marginal low-propensity voters that they need very clearly to change the scope of this electorate and activating them to come to the polls. now, we know that the policy issues though trump campaign feels good. i think they win this election on the economy, on immigration, on crime when it comes to the personality of the two candidates, that's where he struggled when it comes to chaos and competency. that's when he struggles. we should not take his calls for a mental acuity test very seriously because the biggest mental acuity test i think happens for candidates is the type of debates he does not i wanted to do again, and frankly, a lot of people, i think we're in agreement. he didn't perform very well at last time. that's the challenges of this version of the trump candidacy and its honestly the bright spot for a harris campaign that frankly is
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not on the issue set that it was best prefer if this is about policy and change donald trump is actually performing better if this is about oh, personality competencies, stability, that's where the democrats and harris want to be. >> well, that's really interesting because obviously trump has said he doesn't want to do any more debates. so in this void of that matchup, harris is going to places she has never gone before. she's doing fox news on wednesday biden has never done a fox news interview since he's been president. it last democratic candidate who was interviewed by fox was hillary clinton. and reuters jeff mason is reporting tonight that she might do the joe rogan podcast. i mean, you used to work for her. what do you make of this strategy? >> i think they've decided this campaign. it actually isn't about those policies, right? this campaign is about its a leadership test it's a test to show people that you can give trump space. you can hold them accountable. you'll go anywhere, do anything to try to win this campaign and there are a lot of people in the country who want to see her do things that are going to be unconventional. they don't want to see her scripted and in the box. and i think what you're seeing, what you're seeing now is her going out and doing
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those kinds of things i show that she's it's ready, able to take on anybody anytime. >> well, and harris released her medical records over the weekend on saturday, just obviously to highlight the fact that no one's questioning her health necessarily been she's 60-years-old. >> and by the way, she can dance to i'm not sure trump was at a dance off a debate, but sara this is a highlight that trump sought. trump won't release his that trump has you, his doctors come out at the white house briefing room. dr. ronny jackson, and talk about how healthy he is and what great shape he's in. i mean, you've worked for him. what do you think is behind that and now he's demanding knows where he won't really says he's saying that she should do a cognitive test yeah. >> i mean, if you look back and watch videos of trump in 2016 compared to videos today, if you watch one of his rallies, it's abundantly clear to me that he's lost his fastball a bit. i mean, he know one thing, would ever argue that he was the most eloquent speaker. let me be clear, but it does appear that he is meandering and rambling more often and he's
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having obvious moments of confusion. i mean, he confused nancy pelosi and nikki haley not too long ago. and so i think that that just shows that they're a little nervous then to put them in these settings where maybe he could have another moment like that. so that's why they turned down the 60 minutes interview. he lost the first debate. they don't want him to do a second debate. they're not really since his medical records. who knows why. so i think that it's really smart for her to draw a contrast and show that she's willing to go into the arena, have a fight and go maybe somewhere that might be a tough interview for her, like a fox news, but she's not afraid, but it appears like donald trump is running scared and the fact that he the fact that he didn't he won't do another debate is i mean, it's becoming comedy gold kind of saturday night live spoofed it a bit when they kicked off their or when they had their second episode on saturday. >> just listen to this because feature someone that might be recognizable collins
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>> offer ads from the harris campaign. donald trump has officially refused to appear in another debate saying, quote, it's not because i'm scared. so don't tell people i'm scared however, there was one format in which president trump was willing to face off against harris. we take you live to that now we might be closer to an episode of family feud with harris and trump than we would be to another debate based on what i've heard from trump world. oh, absolutely. first off, great placement on the they had you like did a great job i just think it's clear that at this point clear to me that the harris campaign has pivot table when it comes to policy as jomana's was talking about, i think that it's really based though in 2019 for me and the introduction of her to the rest
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of the country, she did not tell a consistent story about herself and what she believed in and that is the huge thing that's hung over her over those last several years. >> and i frankly think it's what we've caught up to now policy is not just about what you are literally promising. i think most voters, most people know that the policy is a lot of politicians promised during campaign season, don't really come to pass what it is, is a signal about your values and what store you're telling about yourself. and this is the where she has struggled because i think it's a bipartisan a council of republicans, the bear hug of nick j of liz cheney the dick cheney family. that's all well and good when it comes to individual targeting of republicans, but it's not a consistent story that explains who you were four years ago, who would never have done that stuff and who you are now. and so what i think these tougher interviews do is give her an opportunity to hear that question and answer it most directly because the only time we've seeing that really be post-war, she said her values have stayed consistent and things like that. she said that she's a new way forward. they have not been willing to really
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lay out what new way forward really means. and so in a change election and the election where the status quo is unacceptable, that's a bar that she has to clear. yeah. always say, i one thing the one issue that does matter is a boring and i think that's something she's been consistent on and something voters have said, they will vote on if it becomes pertinent. >> yeah, it's something she didn't have when she ran the last time we'll see we'll see how motivating is. thank you all so much. thank you to snl and to cloyd vitamin tonight on a more serious note, we should note there are at least six more accusers who have just come forward to file lawsuits against sean "diddy" combs most of them are men. one is alleging he was sexually assaulted as a 16-year-old boy. we're going to talk to elie honig about what this could all mean for his case as diddy remains behind bars tonight and ask questions like, what does a comedy show doing on cnn? that's too much i want donald now, can you slice that provide guard news for you saturday at nine on cnn.
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filter.com. rahel solomon in new york and this is cnn "diddy" combs learned that he has been hit with at least six new lawsuits all of them filed anonymously to protect the identities of the alleged victims and they accused him of sexually assaulting both men and women, and also a 16-year-old boy. >> the attorneys who filed the suit say that they are representing at least 120 people who all claim that they are victims of combs today's allegations ranges from rape to sexual assault, drugging of drinks, with at least two of the alleged assaults occurring. and diddy's so-called white parties that he would host these cases are separate. i should note from the federal criminal charges that we've been covering here, those are the ones that currently have him in federal custody, not far from where i'm sitting now. diddy has pleaded not guilty. he denies sexually assaulting anyone. i'm joined by our cnn senior legal analyst and former assistant us attorney elie honig some of these go back to
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the 1990s, but this is the first time he's been accused of something with a minor. can you just put this in context of what it means for prosecutors here of what this looks like. >> so this is only trouble for sean combs because prosecutors look for this kind of thing. we look for media reports, we look for civil lawsuits as a way to find new victims in cases like this. so i promise you, the problem ossicular sudden this case are reaching out to the lawyers for these six new alleged victims, and they're going to start vetting them. and if any of these victims prove out to be credible and corroborated, they're going to be added to this indictment if we see a new indictment, and prosecutors are just trying to build their case here. they have this much more ammunition that they can look into using now, so we can very easily see this being added to that indictment happened to all the time in sex assault cases, especially where you have a massive proceeding indictment. you've got the terminology as a superseding indictment, but this happens in sex trafficking cases. i did a case once where we start off with 70 some victims. and when word got out, we did a big splashy press release. we found a couple of dozen more because there's comfort in numbers, right?
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think about if, god forbid, if you or someone you knew was a victim and you found out other people are coming forward. it makes it easier for others to come forward. so i do expect this case to grow. >> well, it makes me think of when did he was first charged? we had his attorney, marc agnifilo here on the source. we were talking to him because in the indictment it said 50 victims and witnesses obviously, that's a massive number he argued to me. he thought it was 49 witnesses, one victim. yeah. i mean, do you were skeptical. i was i was very dubious that now i'm certain that that's wrong. >> first of all, the indictment says victims plural. second of all, i promise you that prosecutors are already in touch with at least the lawyers for these six new people, and they're going to check them out and see and by the way, you have to be careful when you're a prosecutor with civil suits because they can be a good source of leads but remember, these are people who are now asking for money. we've already seen comments from sean combs's lawyer saying, oh, they're just looking for a payday. so you have to be extra careful and make sure that you can not just believe them, but corroborate him. can you back them up? can you find other evidence? that you can present to a jury and say they're
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telling the truth. >> and of course, he's denied all wrongdoing, but when you're looking into this, if something is legitimate and prosecutors do find something, we don't know, obviously, these are anonymous, anonymous people who are making these very serious allegations. how soon could those charges be added? >> you need to move very quickly. >> it's going to trial next match. >> the trial i was in may. and so prosecutors aren't going to want to blow up that trial date. i think they're going to want to get it in real quick. and by the way, some of these allegations, as you said, go back to 1995, people are probably wondering, well, isn't that beyond the statute of limitations? usually it's five years, but catch here, there is rico, the racketeering charges, which prosecutors have brought and racketeering can enable you as a prosecutor to charge conduct that goes way farther back than five years. so racketeering is a real powerful tool for prosecutors. i want to charge a case involving conduct of went back to 1987 based on racketeering. so watch for prosecutors to use that here. >> elie thank you. up. next we're gonna go back to politics as cnn is on the hunt for a unicorn. it is the most pro county of all of the battlegrounds a democrat will
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georgia in 2020, he became the first democrat and 28 years to flip that state blue. and vice president harris is now working hard to ensure a repeat, even deploying former president bill clinton to rural areas of the peach state as early voting is set to kick off in georgia tomorrow but there is one county and southeast georgia where democrats may not probably don't expect to win over any new voters this year sinner delhi reeve went to brantley county the most pro-trump county of all the battleground states to find out why that is because anything wrong. hamlin's okay, let's get that on the board. this plane about me we're a small rural county one point in time of democratic party was for the working man and the republican party was for all the leech. and somewhere that got switched her around. >> and 11 joins me now, what what took you to brantley county? what made you want to go there and talk to these voters and just figure out where their heads are at on
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this, like the purest expression of that really intense feeling. a lot of trump supporters have for president trump, it's not like they were felt from mitt romney or reagan, even it's a real personal affinity they felt like he supported them and that he's spoken a genuine way, even though most of them said they didn't like or weren't interested in the really extreme tweets and they seemed mystified almost that you were there, you were asking to find a democrat to maybe speak with there was this amazing moment in the diner. >> i would just want to play that for for people where you are asking to find a democrat to talk to, they found someone for you to speak with really good for september that do you have any insight for us on why that is why he appeals so personally to people here. i have no idea you don't appeal perfectly. many. >> can we all great i don't know how he does that. no personal appeal or any other
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kind of mobile. hayden would deal for him >> why did that disagreed with him? yet and their threats the united i mean those two guys were really interesting to hear from them? >> yeah, they were absolutely appalled by jan sex. that was the main issue that they've brought up one of them was a vietnam veteran. he said that trump was anti-american and what he'd done on january 6 and other objections to the way that cost to been beaten. and he didn't think trump had done enough to make the mob dissipate. >> and you spoke to one woman. i mean, this is what when it caught my attention looking at a story that her grandson had passed away and she bought a black trump hat to lay at it. >> a freshly dug graves, it just that because he was such a fervent trump supporter. >> yeah when we talked to her and to his parents, they said that he had been so committed to trump and he just couldn't wait to vote for him. an
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