pull off this transfer. >> and in washington renovations to make sure bao li and she involves new home is just right down from tree trimming here also. >> they're going to climb. they love to climb. >> the zoo's been advertising pandas are coming all they've arrived together for that panda pair, aaron, they're going to spend about 30 days in quarantine according to zoo officials, then they're going to debut to the public in january, january 24 is now the official date they just announced that i feel like every time you and i have talked about u.s.-china, it does tend to be about something about conflict, about tensions this shows that it's all of that so much. i appreciate it. >> and thanks to all of you as always for being with us. anderson starts now

until election day. vice president harris tries to shore up support with black voters in detroit on the air with charlamagne, tha god. also, the former president's performance last night and today, the questions they raised for some about his mental state and the voters who don't seem to have a problem coupled with anything he says or does. plus bob woodward joins me with details. hawaii, america's former top general now calls trump a fascist to the core. life former joint chiefs chairman general mark milley, or he's trump may call him back to active duty so he can be court-martial good evening. thanks for joining us 21 days out from election. a lot happening. the former president is isn't it atlanta tonight expected to speak shortly? we'll have more on him momentarily. people began early voting today in georgia, the turnout is huge, double what it was in 2020. i'll get the latest numbers from georgia election officials, gabe sterling. first though, vice president harris in detroit tonight fresh from a live radio town hall with charlemagne tha god, she went into it facing a

polling shortfall among black men compared to president biden's level of support in 2020. from a prison, obama bluntly address those voters recently saying it's quote, not acceptable. his words to sit out this election. vice president was less direct instead, calling attention to a suite of policy proposals the work that i continue to do is about increasing access to capital for our small businesses. so my plan includes making sure that for first-time homebuyers, they have a $25,000 down downpayment assistance to just get their foot in the door because we know folks will work hard. so part of my agenda is about what we will do to deal with and highlight what we've got to do to focus on black men's health and then a similar point is this 40% of caregivers are men. let's have medicare, and this is i've mapped it out and we can make it work. medicare cover the cost of home health care for

seniors the needs of the black community are not just about criminal justice. my agenda is about tapping into the ambitions and the aspirations, knowing that folks want to have an opportunity, if they want, they should have a meaningful opportunity to build wealth including intergenic racial wealth well, she also spoke about the stakes of the election in her view. >> and when charlemagne ask why people can't just say the word fascism to describe those stakes, the vice president replied, yes, we can say that joining us from atlanta, astead, herndon, cnn political analyst and national political reporter for the new york times, also former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin there's been speaking out against her old boss on the on the out on the trail, but it's not endorsed a candidate for president tw shannon, a former oklahoma republican house speaker, who is now an adviser with black men for trump. and mo elleithee, former communications director for the democratic national committee. so alyssa, you certainly been saying for a long time, vice

president needs to meet voters where they are. what do you make of her latest outrage? >> it's smart where she's going, the targets are right going on, call her daddy, going on, joe rogan going on, charlamagne, tha god, these have huge reach and a lot of them are probably low propensity voters, people who may not necessarily turn out or fall follow politics day to day. it seems late though i've got to say this is obviously a result of the harris campaign realizing that the polls are tightening up. but these are the moves she should've been doing a month ago to maybe get people off the couch or we're thinking of sitting it out or who are undecided according to cnn's own polling, we know that the actual number of undecided voters is remarkably small at this point. so she really needs to be tarred we're getting people who are just on the fence about even turning out at this point low. >> i mean, i want something else from the radio town hall. this came at the end of an exchange where vice president harris was asked by a reverend about how she would partner with black churches to address the needs of the black community to brief moment, but he's got a lot of attention thank you, reverend. >> i got every day all the time. there you go. make sure you get that right van jones

pointed out that he said earlier, i thought it was important for harris to do sort of call and response with the reverend, especially given that trump has questioned her identity during this campaign, do you agree? she can do to relate to the black community even more than she already does is a good thing and she needs to be out there doing even more of it. now, i will say i it actually has been heartening to see her out there for the past few weeks talking about economic issues relevant to the black community and drawing a contrast with donald trump i've heard for way too long that one of the biggest criticisms of the democratic party is that we wait until the sunday before election day drop into the black churches. and that's the extent of our outreach here. she is more than a month before the election out there talking specifically to the community, not taking it for granted. she needs to keep doing that. she needs to keep drawing a contrast with donald trump, not just as she said, on criminal

justice issues, lord knows there's plenty to focus on there, but on the economic issues where she's starting to dees some slippage, she can make a very strong case about the economy as it relates to black families under her leadership versus that of donald trump's speaker shan. >> i want to play another moment from this town hall and by voting in this election, you have two choices or you don't but you have two choices. if you do and it's two very different visions for our nation one mind that is about taking us forward and progress and investing the american people, investing in their ambitions dealing with their challenges. and the other donald trump is about taking us backward. >> others about fascism why can we just say it yes, we can say that so obviously you're a trump supporter. obviously, if she is very much not a trump supporter, it's interesting though, charlemagne bringing up that word, you know, bob

woodward is now reported that former joint chiefs chairman general mark milley, whom trump appointed to that post, said the same thing to bob woodward do you think it could resonate with undecided voters in these final weeks yeah, i don't at all the fact that we've got a democratic nominee for president in three weeks out from the election, still trying to shore up the black vote that tells you how poorly it kamala's doing. >> in fact, one in four black men say they're voting for donald trump and 61% of africa can americans say this country is going the wrong direction? i got to tell you, anderson, i'm glad that you're having me on, but the reality is i'm excited that of the fact that kamala harris is fighting for the black vote for the first time because she has been in office for four years and i'm wondering where has she been the last four years? the fact that she's rolling out a plan and they 11th hour the campaign to finally appeal to black like voters. it really sounds like a lot of pandering in my opinion. where has she been the last four years? the reality is she hadn't cared about black men unless you are a gay man or you're a dead black man, shot by police officer. she really had been cared about black men

up until this point i'm former president obama suggests that harris is support among black men his relatively low because they aren't enthused about the idea of a woman president case well, i mean, bear with me, anderson, i think there's a lot of nuance to this conversation that risk getting loss. i would say the first thing is that this has been a trend that's been developing for a long time since the high water mark of 2012, you saw in 2016, certain areas i'm thinking but walkie philadelphia, where black turnout specifically among black man wasn't where democrats needed to be. it was one of the bleak spots of the 2022 midterm. this predates kamala harris. the other thing i would say as black men are overwhelmingly likely to vote for democrats, even in the new york times polling that since some of this and to nuclear there you still saw 78% of black men supporting harris. and so there will not berebe a singular reason sometimes i think we risk of sounding like black men might be the reason donald trump wins. now, don't think that's a good place for us to be. but the third thing

is there was obama reporting we look use yeah, i think it's also important to see this in a larger context of the educational sorting that's happening among the parties, democrats have become a more college of flu and party a wider party or more a more, i think elite party under kind of a poll still bomber era. >> and that's drawing them to issues like college affordability the kind of cultural fights that dominate twitter and academia, even things like representation, which are about elite black folks in elite rooms aren't really the issues that are most core to the type of black men they're losing their focus about the fact that those elite rooms are increasingly inaccessible. and so i think those so the issues that are really pulling democrats away from where these folks talk. but to the answer the question about obama itself that is a matter of tone when i talk when i talk to governor wes moore about this issue on podcasts, a couple of months ago, he said that democrats need to work from the place of acknowledging the frustration of black men. and then also acknowledging

that democrats have played a part of it that does not sound like what barak obama is doing last week. and i frankly think that type of lecturing tone, it's not something he would do in other communities and is part of the reason some of this backlash is happening. so yes. is there was actually present shore? yes. is there it has her white i think spouse come up as i talked to some black men shore, but i don't think that's true across. i think that's true across men. and broadly. and we somewhat risks acting like this as a black man specific problem when it's not i'm wondering what you think it's not a black man specific problem mo what do you think of a speaker? >> shannon's characterization that kamala harris hasn't really done anything as vice president to reach out to black men look there, there can be a very easy contrast between the record of this administration versus the record of the last one under donald trump? >> unemployment in the black community was higher than it's been under this administration.

wages have, were lower than they were under this administration. let's let's account for inflation they were still lower under donald trump than they were under this administration. the number of black owned businesses was smaller under donald trump than it was under this administration on metric after metric, there's a record to point to, but but and this is where i always caution my fellow democrats, throwing out the data isn't enough if people don't always feel it, there's a record to point to but she needs to be even more aggressive in these final weeks, laying out how her plan, which was a very good plan, that she rolled out recently, how that impacts people there every day lives. that's not something donald trump is doing. >> she is, i gotta get a break-in. everyone stick around coming up next the foreign presence, meandering performance during an interview today in his behavior on stage last night, also, author bob woodward on how trump compares with any president he's known, or if he even compares it all

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votes back in and let the people vote so i haven't, i haven't gotten, i haven't gotten over that. >> a lot of people have seen that they can't even believe it. >> the question is about google president but as he often does lately, he tried to portray his digressions is some kind of display verbal, virtuosity, or as he calls it, the we've listened to the questions he's asked and the journey he takes critics say you're tariffs will end up being like a national sales tax is a country's if you have america at the moment tests 3 trillion worth of imports, you're going to add tariffs to every single one of them that is going to push up the cost for all those people who want to buy foreign goods. now what's going to happen to pull mathematics president trump, it's that this year it is, but that the way you've figured, i was always very good at mathematics. let me tell you, you're saying 3trillion. those companies and they don't have to pay. but when i was in office, i saw a man from a big steel company and he was devastated. i knew him for a long time and it's been a tough business. certain things you

have to have steel, you have to have if you go to war, you know, there's a possibility you go to war. i kept us out of war. i had no wars in the whole world. i call it the wave. you can call it we have the wave as long as you end up in the right location at the end. but while we're talking about it, we have never been so close to world war iii as we are right now with what's going on in ukraine and russia and the middle east so that was today last night at a town hall and pits vga, he took a few questions and after two people needed medical attention, he started calling for music and stood on stage, sort of bobbing, swaying until he left the stage, 45 minutes later into hell let's say here questions, right? let me hear that music, please

down or patriots and we loved them because of them, we ended up with some good music, right? >> right should we keep going? actually while we talk religious play about from like 30 minutes fast for like 30 minutes into that will just play out in real time. let's talk. so alyssa, i mean, what would what was that? >> i mean, i'm more confused and kristi noem looks on that stage, this is truly one of the most bizarre things i've seen in american politics. and happy

joe biden had done that. >> i wasn't either only person to call for joe biden if joe biden had done this in onstage, just bobbed and weaved and dance to music for 40 minutes with no purpose saying the voters don't want to hear answers to questions three weeks out from the election yes, we would say joe biden is unfit and not up for the task of being president for another four years. speaker shannon come on, come on, less and less. >> and this is a non-story president trump was doing the right thing. this was absolutely appropriate. you had to one regard. i asked that because it was so crowded and there was so much heat because there were people that were passed out. he was acting he couldn't go back back and take a break. excuse me. don't interrupt. let me let me finish the list. i didn't interrupt you. what he did do was stand there and allow the people to be serviced, to allow them to get out safely so that they could get it. remind you this is a man who was recently just shot and a person was killed and one of his rallies hello sitting there allowing the music to play was absolutely appropriate thing to do. and anybody trying to make a story out of this, you're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. this is a nonstarter

i'm a trump rally right now. there's a reason people are lined up around the building waiting to see this man speak probably for an hour, an hour-and-a-half nonstop, if you think joe biden could do that, if you think kamala harris could get through it without laughing, hurt for head off. can you tell me when that said, sir, you do you truly think voters did not show up to a town hall which is by definition, asking questions to hear answers to questions they showed up to hear him, dj and sway on stage alyssa alyssa, the there were people that actually got injured. >> they were being carried out. >> understand this went on for 40 minutes, can expect him to ask questions over that. he was actually doing the are you saying that allow emergency workers i couldn't breathe the right thing to do, you're seeing emergency workers couldn't bring to people out in the 40 minutes, 45 minutes that he stood on stage playing music. and by the way, is really playing music really loudly great for emergency workers trying to access people. i mean, if you're really concerned, i would imagine you'd actually want the music to stop. people, maybe to give room. maybe he would be giving instructions

from stage astead. do you think any i mean, none of this seems to matter to supporters. they seem to be fine with it, obviously, could i mean, at this stage does any of this matter? talking to it's dead. >> go ahead yeah. i was i was just in line at the trump event in georgia and the thing is i think to alyssa's point and a normal political event with a normal political candidate, i would expect people to be there answering, looking for answers to their questions, at the trump event, they're there for a show it's kind of half concert anyway, so i don't think this necessarily moment matters. like do think it's important to note out that donald trump isn't increasingly ad hoc candidate. he does not stay on topic. he frequently is a meandering kind of rambling speeches and even the issues that his advisors and team want him to stay on. he is not doing it. that's the reason harris is focusing more on just the reasons she's reached challenged him to debate even some of the folks i've talked to in line today where acknowledging that he wasn't at his best in that

debate and it looked kind of bat for him to not be able to want to do a second one. so if we're talking about that broader issue, i think that matters in the election. and as part of the reason, a lot of republicans think they would be in a better position if a different candidate was making the same argument mean on the issues. but i don't think this individual moment is going to be the tipping point on that front because frankly, it's the fans are there for a show no matter what he brings, it is interesting. >> i mean, if again, if joe biden or frozen, vice president harris had done either of those things, had that word salad answer. it would be much disgust obviously, on the right, i mean, people see through the lens that they want to see thing and we've certainly covered when she's given word salad answers and and but this just seems like such again, we're watching this in real time. it just goes on for 45 minutes yeah, it looks i'm sorry, sir. i've asked you the same number of questions to each of our guests, so i haven't asimo the second question i've asked you two

questions on that. so listen to questions i'm asking you if there's more time, i'll get to you next? no yeah. >> i mean, this rally was weird. it was goofy. i have been to many presidential candidate events where people have fainted because of heat and no candidate stands there for 45 minutes swaying to ave maria and other songs but what actually concerned me more was not that event. it was today's event at the economic club in chicago, that what we witnessed there is why he doesn't want to debate again, it is an if he were to deliver an answer like that in a debate, i think people would be drawn even more for clear comparisons to what they said about joe biden after the first debate, the one moment where he really had any clarity during that entire event was when he doubled and tripled down on one policy issue, which was his trade wars is tariffs, which the last time

he did cost 200 he thousand american workers, their jobs. so the only time he had any clarity was pushing an economic policy that hurt american voters. the rest of the time he was kind of meandering all over the place. if people see more of that, then i think he's going to struggle with those undecided voters and that's why he doesn't want them to see more of that but on the debate stage, this figure shown that it does seem like in terms of that interview, question we do live in an age now where i mean, certainly the former president has kind of reset the bar and what's acceptable. and i think kamala harris has sort of followed in those footsteps of sometimes not answering the question that's been asked and just i mean, he was asked about google and then he went up and just, you know, gave an answer that to a question he wish he had been asked it's certainly a skill and there's no real repercussions for it. >> well, i mean, here's the reality. anderson donald trump has an over-communicate if there's an issue that you want to know where he stands on,

just asked him if he hasn't told you already, he will tell you there's now he was just asked about that trump has to talk about that. so i think i think he went on to answer that question later on now he does mentioned as he's because he said before, he does take a while to get to an answer, he'll go to that topic, go to other topics because he's absolutely in control. but what he has been clear on is that kamala harris allowed 21 million illegals to enter our country and he's been very clear that that has caused a devastating effect on america's economy in america's safety and that needs to be addressed. that's what he's clear on. >> is he as he fully in control because this i'm still waiting for the concepts of a plan to materialize into an actual plan. listen respectfully, donald trump is not even as sharp as he was in 2020, and i don't think anyone would have argued he was one of our most eloquent president's. then i know for a fact that the team around him did not want this to be with the event was last night yes, it was supposed to be a pep rally for his supporters, but there were supposed to be subs since they were supposed to lean into the economic message and to talk

about border security and contrast him to kamala harris. this was an effective waste of time, but beyond that, it actually raise some legitimate questions. is this a man who's up to be commander in chief of the u.s. military for the next four years and based on that and the answers today, i think it's an open question. >> will thanks, everybody. appreciate it. still ahead and legendary journalist bob woodward's new book is full of behind the scenes details about trump's post-presidency conversations with vladimir putin and furious trump's former top general has about his possible return. bob woodward joins me next. >> a cnn special event, two weeks before election day. vice president harris bases voters and takes to pressing questions, lie. >> anderson cooper moderates a cnn presidential town hall, kamala harris wednesday, october 23 at nine eastern on cnn teeth sensitivity is so common immediately feels like somebody's poking directly on the nerve. >> i recommend censored. censored in toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calm center of down and my facial stay, you know, the docket really works

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bob woodward joins me tonight bob, we are 21 days away from election day the race, obviously, neck and neck. you have so many fascinating things in this book, you write about a 2023 conversation you had with retired general mark milley and former president trump appointed to the joint chiefs chairman ship. you you said general milley told you about trump, quote, he is the most dangerous person ever. i had suspicions when i talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now i realize is a total fat fascist. he's the most dangerous person to this country i mean, from any other person that might just be something that comes and goes. but from general milley, i mean, that's a remarkable statement. what went through your mind when he said that i was astonished because milley has the chairman of the joint chiefs, a very respected person somebody who lee had a record as a military leader to say

that about trump? >> not that he's a problem, are we can't trust him, but to take it to the point of saying he is the danger to the country. he is the most dangerous person i know and almost like he's an assignment editor to me as a journalist and reporter of, you know, we need to do something about this you also write about conversations that you say trump had with vladimir putin after leaving office. >> you report as many as seven instances of those the foreign president there was asked about that today during an event in chicago. i just want to play what he said can you say yes or no, whether you have talked to vladimir putin since you stop being president? well, i don't comment on that, but i will tell you that if i did, it's a smart thing. if i'm friendly with people, if you have a relationship with people that's a good thing, not a bad thing in terms of a country. >> obviously, not a denial there. certainly. what do you

make of that response? >> well, i make i make it of a kind of affirmation to say it's a smart thing. how is this a smart thing? who? who is vladimir putin? look, putin is the 20th century's adolf hitler. what putin is doing in ukraine it is him saying, and if you've read what he said they hadn't written about this oh, brushes entitled to ukraine. so we just going to take it and that's precisely what he's working on. the biggest war that's going on in the world right now and what's, what's the battlefield status now that the ukrainians who have been supported by the united states and other democratic loving

allies they actually last i heard about this ukraine occupied nine 96, 93 villages in russia. so this is not going very well at this moment for russia, what i think back to the only debate between harris and trump, when you saw how easily harris manipulated trump to get upset and lose completely, lose it for the rest of the debate by, just by simply saying that people were bored by his rallies and walked out i'm wondering, have you ever seen a world leader who is so easily open to manipulation, to flattery, to praise, to, i mean, i'm sure in interviews, you have probably use this as a tactic to you give with trump. i remember doing interviews. you say no, a sort of vaguely positive thing. and then you

could ask him other things and he's it sort of washes over him and it's okay for a little while. >> okay. but but here's one of the things i was able to report in the book. >> cia director bill burns, quote says, putin manipulates his professionally trained to do that. >> putins got a plan just as he did when trump was in office at plane, trump now, that's not some political opponent saying that about trump. that's the cia director who is steeped in the analysis in this idea and i no, they have very good intelligence on this. what's putin trying to do? he's trying to play donald trump so i think we are in such a dangerous position that trump might

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election officials cannot delay or decline to certify the election results if they suspect error or fraud. just before airtime, i spoke with gabe sterling, the chief operating officer for georgia secretary of state this is showing, first of all, i want to ask you about how early voting it's already begun in georgia. how is it going? >> it's gangbusters anderson, we've broken over 300,000 on the first day of early voting. the previous record with from 2020, that was only 136,000. so we're how the county is doing a great job in georgia. voters doing a great job. >> so certainly there's a lot of, i don't know if it's enthusiasm or certainly interest or passion that people are coming let me out to do early voting. there's obviously a lot of attention on georgia this year, given the closeness of the race. i'm wondering what your reaction is to this court ruling and fulton county that says county officials in the state cannot delay or decline to certify election results. what does that actually mean in practice? >> well, the reality is, and

always has been. i'm glad we now have a court of competent jurisdiction coming down and saying this is a ministerial duty of the county officials have to certify the election because it's not their job. and he said in this order to be the judge and investigator on this, that is the job of courts. and in fact, in georgia under the law, if you want to challenge the outcome of the election, you have to certification first. so this is part of the process that they play. >> there's been obviously a lot of attention on the state election board, on the some of the members on that board, there are separate litigation over some of the moves, which is the board is controlled by trump allies. they've sought to require local officials conduct a so-called reasonable bola inquiry into election results before certifying the also on 2020 election deniers to service election monitors and fulton county and they voted to require counties to hand count the number of ballots cast at a polling place to make sure it matches the number of ballots tallied by voting machines. do these make sense to you well, some of these things are processes that we already do. >> i mean, what i find really

interesting about the reasonable inquiry is it's, it makes a supposition that these elections officials, these supervisors who come in, are there magically on wednesday morning they're there now, they are literally the superintendent of the elections they work with the employees to decide the polling locations, train the poll workers, look at the processes, look at early voting, watch what they're doing for absentees there. they're involved all the process so they're basically certifying their own work. >> the idea of hand-counting would that slowed down the certification process? and if so, do you have a sense of how long it would add to the timetable i don't think it floated on the certification process because one of the other things that we got out of a couple of court rulings over the last couple of weeks is november 12 to 5:00 p.m. all counties shall certify their election in that state law that is going to happen. >> this hand-counting thing may delay results coming in, which is also a bad thing because one of the things we've seen in studies is that people trust results to get there quickly

and frankly, to me is a much more in secure thing to do we have 2,500 polling locations. the rule that they passed requires three people to be there to hand-tallied it's votes, which means you have 7,500 human beings opening up a secure box, taking out the votes that are in a chain of custody, handling them and putting them back in 2,000 locations with 7,500 people, not enough monitors. there wasn't enough processes put around. this is just it's a bad idea to ever change rules this close to an election, especially on something that can open up the chain of custody like that, which we think is really against the law. >> every australia, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. anderson, have a good night. >> so tonight marks the debut of a new segment, ballot watch are looking voting concerns around the country. in this case wisconsin, where the debate over whether or not valid drop boxes are safe has led to some tense moments. cnn's sara murray has more

theory reliable and secure we're waiting or they city council meeting to start in on one side, we've got people who are in favor of the dropbox on the other side, we've got people who are skeptical about the dropbox alex, i wanted to go away i bet you could here to keep the two sides he's playing out across the country. >> there's no one monitoring here in wausau, wisconsin. tension is building after me you're doug diny point on a hard hat and wheeled away the city's dropbox. >> this is a hot button item. the agenda was changed last night, not proper. >> point of order. >> what is your point of order by point of order is your out-of-order after diny wield the dropbox away, the city

clerk who administers elections, reported it to local authorities. the state justice department is now investigating the city's mayor ballot drop-box security is an issue on which he campaign i am this is just one more example of the deep state, right at work and little bossa arguing about a box is dumb and its decadent wisconsin has been battling over where you can return your ballot for years. >> in 2020, they had drop boxes in 2022 we weren't allowed in 2024. the makeup of the state supreme court changed its more liberal and now drop boxes are back. >> we want to get rid of fake drop boxes. there are fake i'm sara murray with cnn. should we do if i come around i brought it inside because it wasn't it was unsecured for all i know somebody could have grabbed it it's raanan river. >> now, we would have a real crime on her hands from

taylor's saying, mean you might have done something illegal and moving the ban? >> absolutely not know. have you heard anything about all of these investigations that may be related to this? do you regret losing you know, there's a saying that dogs don't bark at park cars i've had to get attention in here from time to time to upset the status quo now that the dropbox is in use, it secured to the ground, locked and emptied by officials daily dropbox she's are fraudulent there for they get this if they disappear and then all of a sudden they show up it's fraudulent drop boxes have become a magnet for misinformation formation. >> the issue came up again during trump's rally in juneau, wisconsin so how did you end up on stage at the trump rally really was just to call up from the president. >> i have something very important. i think you're going to want to hear in dodge county in this 2024 election, there are zero drop boxes for the

election successfully discouraged some municipal clerks from using drop boxes. >> but a handful remained seen in dodge county despite his warnings. >> if we have an area of the law which is constantly being subverted, we're going to find ways to put roadblocks in the way of individuals that are going to break the law. >> you're suggesting that, you know, the ballot boxes are constantly being subverted and there's just there is not proof to back that up. >> there is the appearance that that it is occurring, and we are making sure that is not going to happen. >> but you are not an election official. so why should your doubts about the election set the tone for how this whole county should vote because i have to investigate the crimes that happened. if they happen. and my after they happen, they haven't been reported yet. >> well, we have election law violation that happens just about every time around so when election laws violated, i have to investigate that in a county trump won by 30 points in 2020,

schmidt says the local community is with him, but i'm very well supported by our constituents so you hear do i answer to the rest of the country no, i don't answer my voters here in dodge county. sara murray, cnn, juneau, wisconsin coming up next new episode of my podcast about grief and loss called all there is, is just been released will be goldberg is my guest for moving conversation about the ripple effects of grief in her life. >> so preview in a moment turn around >> stay with cnn. >> i want to ask you about january 6, 2021. >> the steps that you're talking about, why have you done them already? with more reporters on the ground? >> did you. hear that appeal to young voters? >> trump could have said yes, he would veto a national abortion ban. >> and the best political team in the business, what's the biggest takeaway? >> from this poll, we're in the midst of a pivotal moment in american history. >> follow the candidates following the facts, follow a cnn no matter what kind of

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podcast. all there is was just released about ten minutes go available to my wherever you get your podcast, you can listen right now by pointing your cell phone camera at the qr code on this screen and then click on the link that pops up will be goldberg, oscar winning actor, comedian, co-host of the view on abc is my guest on this episode. she's figs very candidly and movingly about her mother, emma johnson, who died in 2010, and her brother clyde died five years later. and she shared some of her her grief experiences in a best-selling memoir. in pieces, my mother, brother, and me. here's a preview of the new episode the podcast. i started by asking what p about a traumatic experience she had as a child when she came home and found her mom having a mental health crisis she was standing in front of the open door, the closet shaking, kind of shaking in muttering and then i came in, said my you know, my mom and then she just turned around

went over to the stove turn on the gas on and put her head in it. and i thought this this this is bad. >> so what do i do? >> what do it must be terrifying? >> well, i think ai some adult thing in my brain said you have to speak to her, and ask, what's happening. you have to ask her clearly, this located said she said, go get miss viola who was are downstairs neighbor. >> she pulled her head out of the others, pulled her head out of the oven. and i could smell the gas so that ms viola called the ambulance. they tied my mother to the gurney, waiting for the elevator to come off they went and no one said, oh,

and this is what's going on when she returned from two years being locked up, having electroconvulsive therapy and god knows what else did she had no idea who you were? now. >> she's thinking, i tell you a secret. i said, yeah so i know who you are when when they brought me back i just knew that whatever they said, if they said this guy was orange and i saw it was blue, i was going to say it was orange because she did not want to be sent back there. never you wrote something that i you said i had no clue that things would change so dramatically for me once they were gone, it's not like either one could have done anything about dying. >> but from time to time, i feel like, why did he all leave me here yeah. >> i asked the ai yeah. >> yeah but the answer to that is because we have stuff we got to get done. that's why and

we're not supposed to. >> this is not our time it's not our time. we got kids and grandkids and they need to know us they need they need to know us that's why that's my belief >> it happens. it just happens yeah. >> yeah. but yeah, that i find myself asking that question leave me do it three of us that, that its very much it's the question like the 10-year-old me is asking. >> it's like the angry question about hard-hearted

child of like why did you all leave? yeah and, you know thought how what a terrible thing that would be to do to my kid, to knowingly do to my kid who actually likes me a fine woman and she's raised she and her husband have raised three fine, very bizarre children why would you leave them with that >> yeah, me too. i think or minor their resources if you or someone, you know, needs help, you can call or text the suicide and crisis lifeline at

988 is open 24 hours a day. the full interview with whoopi goldberg is available. now, you to listen, you can point your camera at the qr code on the screen, click on the link that pops up. you can also get the podcast's anywhere you listen to podcasts. we've also starting something new now online grief community at cnn.com, forward slash, all there is online. it's a way i hope you can feel a little less lonely in your grief. you can connect with me and others living with grief, you can leave comments and share your own experiences as well. you can listen to the podcast's there. you can watch the entire video version of the interview with whoopi. you can also watch it on cnn to youtube channel right now. check out the new online grief community it cnn.com, forward slash. all there is online that's it for us the news continues. >> i'll see you tomorrow. the source with kaitlan collins starts now that's how donald trump's campaign in the final three weeks of the 2024 election. as the former