this november. yellen totally just going to say when from cheese curds turn it's okay. i'll bring actually tyra banks is bags. she walked the victoria secret fashion show today. she's 50 50-years-old i just think that this is a reminder that you can come back to the thing you love. you can reinvent yourself. i feel like it's a woman empowerment thing and she killed it. so we love you tyra i, you know, i think people, this is going to be this is my hot take. >> people have been coming for tyra, but i think that she is a trailblazer and everybody we all have flaws, but she deserves her flowers for doing what she has done for so many years. and then for coming back, coming back, it's not easy to come back in the fashion industry at a woman at 50 and say like i loved the body that i'm in and i'm proud of it. it's a real message for

women, all people all around the country loved the body that wonder what naomi campbell had to say about it not only, yeah, now we love niamey i was like beef i just wonder, you know everyone. >> thank you very much. thank you for watching newsnight it's state of the race tonight on election day. >> vice president harris tries to shore up support with black voters in detroit on the air with charlamagne, tha god also the former president's performance last night and today the questions they raised for some about his mental state and the voters who don't seem to have a problem with anything he says or does. plus bob woodward joins me with details. her why america's former top general now calls trump a fascist to the core of why former joint chiefs chairman general mark milley, or his trump may call him back to active duty so he can be court-martial. good evening. thanks for joining us 21 days out from an election. a lot happening. the former president is in atlanta tonight, expected to speak shortly. lot more on

him momentarily. people began early voting today in georgia, the turnout is huge, double what it was in 2020. i'll get the latest numbers from georgia's election official, gabe sterling. first though, vice president harris in detroit tonight fresh from a live radio town hall with charlemagne tha god she went into it facing a polling shortfall among black men compared to president biden's level of support in 2020. former president obama bluntly addressed those voters recently saying it's not acceptable. his words to sit out this election. vice president was less direct instead, calling attention to a suite of policy proposals the work that i continue to do is about increasing access to capital for our small businesses. so my plan includes making sure that for first-time homebuyers, they have a $25,000 downpayment distance to just get their foot in the door because we know folks will work hard so part of my agenda is about what we will do to deal with and highlight

what we've got to do to focus on black men's health and then a similar are men let's have medicare. and this is, i've mapped it out and we can make it work medicare cover the cost of home health care for seniors. the needs of the black community are not just about criminal justice. my agenda is about tapping into the ambitions and the aspirations knowing that folks want to have an opportunity if they want, they should have a meaningful opportunity to build wealth, including intergeneration on wealth she also spoke about the stakes of the election in her view, and when trella man asked why people can't just say the word fascism to describe those stakes, the vice president replied yes, we can say that joining us from atlanta, astead herndon, cnn political analyst and national political reporter for the new york times, also former trump white house communications director is farah griffin has been speaking out against her old boss on the

on the out on the trail, but it's not endorsed a candidate for president two, shannon, a former oklahoma republican house speaker, who is now an adviser with black men for trump. >> and mo elleithee, former communications director for the democratic national committee alyssa. you certainly been saying for a long time, vice president needs to meet voters where they are. what do you make of her latest average? >> it's smart where she's going, the targets are right going on, call her daddy, going on, joe rogan going on, charlamagne, tha god, these have huge reach and a lot of them are probably low propensity voters, people who may not necessarily turn out or fall follow politics day to day. it seems late though i've got to say this is obviously a result of the harris campaign realizing that the polls are tightening up. but these are the move she should've been doing a month ago to maybe get people off the couch or we're thinking of sitting it out or who are undecided a according to cnn's own polling, we know that the actual number of undecided voters is remarkably small at this point. so she really needs to be targeting people we're just on the fence about even turning out at this point low. >> i mean, i want something else from the radio town hall.

this came in the end of an exchange where vice president harris was asked by a reverend about how she would partner with black churches to address the needs of the black community to brief moment, but he's got a lot of attention thank you, reverend. i got every day all the time. there you go. make sure you get there right van jones pointed out that he said earlier, i thought it was important for harris to do sort of call and response with the reverend, especially given that trump has questioned her identity during this campaign, do you agree? can do to relate to the black community even more than she already does is a good thing. and she needs to be out there doing even more of it. now, i will say i it actually has been heartening to see her out there for the past few weeks talking about economic she is relevant to the black community and drawing a contrast with donald trump. i've heard for way too long that one of the biggest criticisms of the democratic party is that we wait until the

sunday before election day drop into the black churches. and that's the extent of our outreach here. she is more than a month before the election out there talking specifically to the community, not taking it for granted she needs to keep doing that. she needs to keep drawing a contrast with donald trump, not just as she said, on criminal justice issues, lord knows there's plenty to focus on there, but on the economic issues where she's starting to see some slippage, she can make a very strong case about the economy as it relates to black families under her leadership versus that of donald trump speaks shan. >> iant to play another moment from this town hall and by voting in this election, you have two choices or you don't but you have two choices. if you do and it's two very different visions for our nation. >> one mine that is about taking us forward and progress in investing the american people, investing in their ambitions dealing with thedonals

backward. >> others about fascism why can we just say it yes, we can say that so obviously you're a trump supporter. >> obviously, if she is very much not named trump supporter, it's interesting though, charlene bringing up that word, you know, bob woodward is now reported that former joint chiefs chairman general mark milley, who trump appointed to that post, said the same thing to bob woodward do you think it could resonate with undecided voters in these final weeks yeah, i don't at all the fact that we've got a democratic nominee for president three weeks out from the election, still trying to shore up the black vote. >> that tells you how poorly kamala's doing. in fact, one in four black men say they're voting for donald trump and 61% of africa can americans say this country is going the wrong direction? i got to tell you, anderson, i'm glad that you're having me on, but the reality is i'm excited that the fact that kamala harris is fighting for the black vote for the first time because she's been in office for four years and i'm wondering where has she

been the last four years? the fact that she's rolling out a plan and they 11th hour, the campaign to finally appeal to black like voters. it really sounds like a lot of pandering in my opinion. where has she been the last four years? the reality is she hadn't cared about black man unless you are a gay man or you're dead black man, shot by police officer. she really hadn't cared about black men up until this point. >> i'm a. astead, former president bombings suggests that harris has support among black men. his relatively low because they aren't enthused about the idea of a woman president case >> anderson, i think there's a lot of nuance to this conversation that risk getting loss. i would say the first thing is that this has been a trend that's been developing for a long time since the high water mark of 2012 you saw in 2016, certain areas i'm thinking milwaukee, philadelphia, where black turnout specifically among black man wasn't where democrats needed to be. it was one of the bleak spots of the 2022 midterm. so this predates kamala harris. the other thing

i would say as black men are overwhelmingly likely to vote for democrats, even in the new york times polling that since some of this into nuclear are you still saw 78% of black men supporting harris. and so there will not be a singular reason sometimes think we risk a of sounding like black men might be the reason donald trump wins. now, don't think that's a good place for us to be. but the third thing is there was obama most important we look important to see this in a larger context of the educational sorting that's happening among the parties, democrats have become a more college of louin party, a wider party, or more a more, i think elite party under a post-obama era. and that's drawing them to issues like college affordability, the kind of cultural fights is that dominate twitter and academia, even things like representation which are about elite black folks in elite rooms aren't really the issues that are most core to the type of black men they're losing their focus about the fact that those elite rooms are increasingly

inaccessible. and so i think those are the issues that are really pulling democrats away from where these folks talk. but to the answer the question i'm itself, that is a matter of tone when i talk, when i talk to governor wes moore about this issue on podcasts, a couple of months ago, he said the democrats need to work from the place of acknowledging the frustration of black men. and then also acknowledging that democrats have played a part of it, that does not sound like what barak obama is doing last week. i frankly think that type of lecturing tone, it's not something he would do in other communities and is part of the reason some of this backlash is happening. so yes. is there any precedent shore? yes. is there it has her white i think spouse come up as i talked to some black men shore, but i don't think that's true across. i think that's true across men broadly. and we somewhat risks acting like this as a black man specific problem when it's noou >> it's not a black man spec

president to reach out to black men look record of this administration versus the record of the last one under donald trump unemployment in the black community was higher than it's been under this administration. >> wages have were lower than and they were under this administration. let's let's account for inflation. they were still lower under donald trump than they were under this administration. the number of black owned businesses was smaller under donald trump than it was under this administration on metric after metric, there's a record to point to, but but and this is where i always caution my fellow democrats, throwing out the data in enough if people don't always feel it, there's a record to point to. >> but she needs to be even more aggressive in these final weeks laying out how her plan, which was a very good plan that she rolled out recently, how that impacts people. >> there every everyday lives.

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harris-walz campaign cnn the former president's event tonight in atlanta follows to campaign appearances which stand out yoon for him during an interview today with the editor-in-chief of bloomberg news, he had difficulty staying on topic should google be broken up i just haven't gotten

over something that justice department did yesterday where virginia cleaned up its voter rolls and get rid of thousands and thousands of bed votes and the justice department sued them, that they should be allowed to put those bad votes and illegal votes back in and let the people vote so i haven't, i haven't gotten, i haven't gotten over that. a lot of people have seen that they can't even believe the question is about google president jump as he often does lately, he tried to portray his digressions and some kind of display verbal virtuosity. >> or as he calls it, the we've listen to the questions he's asked and the journey he takes critics say you're tariffs will end up being like a national sales tax? no. >> no, because the country's matter. if you have america at the moment has 3 trillion worth of imports, you're going to add tariffs to every single one of them that is going to push up the cost for all those people who want to buy foreign goods what's going to happen to pull mathematics president

trump, it's not yeah, it is, but not the way you've figured i was always very good at mathematics let me tell you, you're saying 3 trillion. >> those companies and they don't have to pay when i was in office i saw a man from a big steel company and he was devastated. i knew him for a long time. and it's been a tough visit. certain things you have to have steel, you have to have if you go to war, you know, there's a possibility you go to war. i kept us out of war. i had no wars in the whole world. i call it the wave. we can call it got to have the wave as long as you end up in the right location. the end, but while we're talking about it, we have never been so close to world war iii as we have are right now. with what's going on in ukraine and russia and the middle east so that was today last night at a town hall and pits vga, he took a few questions and after two people needed medical attention, he started calling for music and stood on stage, sort of bobbing and swaying until he left the stage, 45 minutes later is this

just listened to music. let's make it into hell wants to hear questions right? let me hear that music, please. down, our patriots, we love them because of them, we ended up with some good music right? right can we keep going >> down. not trump

>> and actually while we talk religious play about from like 30 minutes fast for like 30 minutes into that will just play out in real time. let's talk. so alyssa, i mean, what would what was that? >> i mean, i'm more confused than kristi noem looks on that stage. this is truly one of the most bizarre things i've seen in american politics and happened to joe biden had done that. i wasn't either only person to call for joe biden if joe biden had done this in onstage, just bobbed and weaved and dance to music for 40 minutes with no purpose saying voters don't want to hear answers to questions three weeks after an election? yes, we would say joe biden is unfit and not up for the task of being president for another four years speaker shannon ahmad come on a listen, listen. this is a non-story president trump was doing the right thing. this was absolutely appropriate. you have to one regard. >> i stopped because it was so crowded there was so much heat because there were people that were passed out and he was acting he couldn't go back to you, didn't go back and take a break? excuse me for don't interrupt. let me let me finish

the list. i didn't interrupt you. what he did do was stand there and allow the people to be serviced, to allow them to get out safely so that they could get it. remind you this is a man who was recently just shot and a person was killed and 100 rallies sitting there, allowing the music to play was absolutely appropriate thing to do. and anybody trying to make a story out of this, it tried to make a mountain out of a molehill. this is a nonstarter. i'm at a trump rally right now. there's a reason people are lined up around the building waiting to see this man speak probably for an hour, an hour-and-a-half nonstop, if you think joe biden could do that, if you think kamala harris to get through it without laughing hurt her head off? did you tell me when that sit down, sir, you do you truly think voters did not show up to a town hall which is by definition asking questions to hear answers to questions they showed up to hear him, dj and sway on stage. >> alyssa alyssa, the there were people that actually got injured. they were being carried out. >> understand this went on for 40 minutes, expect tim to ask questions over that he was actually doing the are you saying that allowing emergency workers they couldn't breathe the right thing to do. >> you're saying emergency

workers couldn't bring to people out in the 40 minutes, 45 minutes that he stood on stage playing music. and by the way, it's really playing music really loudly great for emergency workers trying to access people. i mean, if you're really concerned, i would imagine you would actually want like the music to stop. people, maybe to give room, maybe he would be giving instructions from stage astead. do you think any i mean, none of this seems to matter to trump supporters they seem to be fine with it, obviously, could i mean, at this stage, does any of this matter instead, go ahead yeah i was i was just in, line at the trump event in georgia and the thing is, i think to alyssa's point and a normal political event with a normal political candidate, i would expect people to be there answering, looking for answers to their questions at the trump event. >> there there for a show was kind of half concert anyway, so i don't think this necessarily moment matters. i do think it's important to note out that donald trump isn't increasing think the ad hoc candidate, he does not stay on

topic. he frequently is a meandering kind of rambling speeches and even the issues that his advisors and team want him to stay on. he is not doing it. that's the reason harris is focusing more on just the reasons she's reached challenged him to debate even some of the folks i've talked to in line today where acknowledging that he wasn't at his best in that debate they look kind of bat for him to not be able to want to do a second one. so if we're talking about that broader issue, i think that matters in the election. and as part of the reason, a lot of republicans think they would be in a better position if a different candidate was making the same argument on the issues, but i don't think this individual moment is going to be the tipping point on that front because frankly, the fans are there for a show no matter what bring it is interesting though. >> i mean, if again, if joe biden or prison vice president harris had done either of those things, had that word salad answer. it would be much discussed obviously, on the right, i mean, people see through the lens that they want to see thing and we've certainly covered when she's given word salad answers and

and but this just seems like such. again, we're watching this in real time. it just goes on for 45 minutes yeah. >> look rally. >> i'm sorry. >> i've asked you the same number of questions to each of our guests, so i haven't asimo the second question i've asked you two questions and that's always two questions. i'm asking you if there's more time, i'll get to you next okay yeah. >> i mean, this rally was weird. it was goofy. i have been to many presidential candidate events where people have fainted because of heat and no candidate stands there for 45 minutes swaying to ave maria and other songs. >> but what actually concerned me more was not that event. >> it was today's event at the economic club in chicago that what we witnessed there is why he doesn't want to debate again it is an if he were to deliver an answer like that in a debate, i think people would be drawn even more clear

comparisons to what they said about joe biden after the first debate, the one moment where he really had any clarity during that entire event was when he doubled and tripled down on one policy issue, which was his trade war is tariffs, which the last time he did cost 250,000 american workers, their jobs so the only time he had any clarity was pushing an economic policy that hurt american voters. the rest of the time he was kind of meandering all over the place. if people see more of that, then i think he's going to struggle with those undecided voters and that's why he doesn't want them to see more of that on the debate stage. >> this figure, shenna, it does seem like in terms of that interview question we do live in an age now where it's sort of the foreign president has kind of reset the bar and what's acceptable. and i think kamala harris has sort of followed in those footsteps of sometimes not answering the question that's been asked and just i mean, he was asked about

google and then he went up and just, you know, gave an answer that to a question he wish he had been asked. it's certainly a skill and there's no real repercussions for it. >> well, i mean, here's the reality. anderson donald trump has an over-communicate if there's an issue that you want to know where he stands on, just asked him if he hasn't told you already, he will tell you there's not a he was just asked about the real thing and donald trump to talk about that. so i think i think he went on to answer that question later on now he does mentioned as he as you said before, he does take a while to get to an answer. he'll go to that topic, go to other topics because he's absolutely in control. but what he has been clear on is that kamala harris allowed 21 million illegals to enter our country and he's been very clear that that has caused a devastating effect on america's economy in america's safety. and that needs to be addressed. that's what he's clear on. >> okay is he as he fully in control i'm still waiting for the concepts of a plan to materialize into an actual plan. listen respectfully,

donald trump is not even as sharp as he was 2020, and i don't think anyone would have argued he is one of our most eloquent president's. then i know for a fact that the team around him did not want this to be what the event was last yes, it was supposed to be a pep rally for his supporters, but there were supposed to be substance. they were supposed to lean into the economic message and to talk about border security and contrast them to kamala harris. this was an effective waste of time, but beyond that, it actually raise some legitimate questions. is this a man who's up to be commander in chief of the u.s military for the next four years he's, done that in the answers today. i think it's an open question. >> right? will thanks, everybody appreciate it. still ahead and legendary journalist bob woodward's new book is full of behind the scenes details about trump's post-presidency conversations with vladimir putin and furious trump's former top general has about his possible return. bob woodward joins me next. >> cnn special event, two weeks before election day vice president harris basis voters and takes the pressing questions lie. >> anderson cooper moderates as cnn presidential town hall,

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statement. what went through your mind when he said that i was astonished because milley has the chairman of the joint chiefs, a very respected person somebody who really had and a record is a military leader to say that about trump, not that he's a problem, are we can't trust him, but to take it to the point of saying he is a danger to the country. >> he is the most dangerous person i know and almost like he's an assignment editor to me as a journalist and reporter of, you know, we need to do something about this. >> you also write about conversations that you've said trump had with vladimir putin after leaving office, you report as many as seven instances of those the foreign president was asked about that today during an event in chicago, i just want to play what he said can you say yes or no, whether you have talked to

vladimir putin since you stop being president? well, i don't comment on that, but i will tell you that if i did, it's a smart thing. if i'm friendly with people, if i have a relationship with people, that's a good thing, not a bad thing in terms of a country. >> obviously, not a denial there. certainly. what do you make of that response? >> well, i make i make of kind of affirmation to say it's a smart thing. how is this a smart thing who is it's vladimir putin look, putin is the 20th century's adolf hitler what putin is doing in ukraine is not just territorial assault. >> it is him saying, and if you've read what he said written about this oh, brushes, entitled to ukraine. so we're just going to take it and that's precisely what he's working on it's the biggest

war that's going on in the world right now. and what's, what's the battlefield status now that the ukrainians who have been supported by the united loving allies. they actually last i heard about this ukraine occupied night in these 693 villages in russia this is not going very well at this moment for russia, what i think that's the only debate between harris and trump. when you saw how easily harris manipulated trump to get upset and lose completely, lose it for the rest of the debate by, just by simply saying that people were bored by his rallies and walked out i'm wondering, have you ever seen a world leader who is so easily open to manipulation,

to flattery, to praise, to, i mean, i'm sure in interviews, you have probably use this as a tactic to you give with trump. i remember doing interviews. you say, what? no, a sort of vaguely positive thing. and then you could ask him other things and he's it sort of washes over him and it's okay for him for a little while. >> okay. but but here's one of the things i was able to report in the, book cia director bill burns, quote says, putin manipulates his professionally trained to do that. putins got a plan just as he did when trump was in office at play in trump. now, that's not some political opponent saying that about trump. that's the cia director who is steeped in the analysis in this idea and i no,

they have very good intelligence on this. what's putin trying to do? he's trying to play donald trump so i think we are in such a dangerous position that trump might become president. again, bob woodward of the new book is called war. thanks for your time i'll coming up next breaking news in battleground georgia and the record that was set today as early voting gets underway, we'll talk with gabriel sterling, a key georgia election official ahead on cnn tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program if your age 50 to 85 and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget remember the three ps what are the three ps the three ps of life insurance on a fixed budget our price price, and

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record turnout on this the first day of early voting, even with part of the state still recovering from hurricane helene president biden won georgia by less than 12,000 votes in 2020, which prompted then president trump to call and pressure georgia's top election official to find him enough votes to overturn the results. >> well, just yesterday, a georgia judge ruled county election officials cannot delay or decline to certify the election results if they suspect error or fraud just before airtime, i spoke with gabe sterling, the chief operating officer for georgia's secretary of state is shoving. >> first of all, i want to ask you about how early voting it's already begun in georgia. how is it going? >> it's gangbusters, 300,000 on the first day of early voting. the previous record from 2020, that was only 136,000. so we're the county's doing a great job in georgia. voters doing a great job. >> so certainly there's a lot of, i don't know if it's enthusiasm or certainly interest or passion that people are coming out to do early voting. there's obviously a lot of attention on georgia

this year, given the closeness of the race. i'm wondering what your reaction is to this court ruling and fulton county that says county officials in the state cannot delay or decline to certify election results. what is that actually mean in practice? >> well, the reality is and always has been. i'm glad we now of a court of competent jurisdiction coming down and saying this is a ministerial duty of the county officials have to certify the election because it's not their job. and he said in this order to be the judge and investigator on this, that is the job of courts. and in fact, in georgia under the law, if you want to challenge the outcome of the election, you have to certification first. so this is part of the process that they play. >> there has been obviously a lot of attention on the state election board on the some of the members on that board, there separate litigation over some of the moves, which is the board is controlled by trump allies. they've sought to require local officials conduct a so-called reasonable well inquiry into election results before certifying. they also want 2020 election deniers to service election monitors in

fulton county and they voted to require counties to hand count the number of ballots cast at a polling place to make sure it matches the number of ballots tallied by voting machines. do these make sense to you processes that we already do. >> i mean, what i find really interesting about the reasonable inquiry is it's, it makes us up position that these elections officials, these supervisors who come in, are there magically on wednesday morning they are there now. they are literally the superintendent, the elections they work with the employees to decide the polling locations, trying the poll workers look at the processes look at early voting watch what they're doing for absentees. there, they're involved all of the process. so they're basically certifying their own work the idea of hand counting would that slow down the certification process? and if so, do you have a sense of how long it would add to the timetable i don't think it floated on certification process because one of the other things that we got out of

a couple of court rulings that over the last couple of weeks is november 12 to 5:00 p.m. all counties shall certify their election. >> that state law and that is going and to happen. >> this hand-counting thing may delay results coming in, which is also a bad thing because one of the things we've seen in studies is that people trust results to get there quickly. >> and frankly, to me is a much more insecure thing to do. we have 2,500 polling locations. the rule that they passed requires three people to be there to hand how those votes, which i mean, as you have 7,500 human beings opening up a secure box, taking out the votes that are in a chain of custody, handling them and putting them back in 2,000 locations with 7,500 people, not enough monitors. there wasn't enough processes put around. this is just it's a bad idea to everage change rules this close to an election, especially on something that can open up the chain of custody like that, which we think is really against the law. >> gabriel sterling. i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. anderson. have a good night. >> tonight marks the debut of a new segment ballot watch are

looking voting concerns around the country. in this case wisconsin, where the debate over whether or not valid drop boxes are safe has led to some tense moments. cnn's sara murray has more theory reliable and secure we're waiting. >> city council meeting to start in on one side, we've got people who are in favor of the dropbox on the other side, we've got people who are skeptical about the dropbox alex, i wanted to go away i bet you could the two sides there were safe is playing out across the country. know what monitoring the hearing loss or wisconsin.

tension is building aftermath doug diny point on a hard hat and wheeled away the city's dropbox this is a hot button item agenda was changed last night, not proper point of order. >> what is your point of order? >> the point of order is you're out of order after diny wield the dropbox away, the city clerk who administer elections reported it to local authorities. >> the state justice department is now investigating the city's mayor ballot drop-box security is an issue on which he campaign ai very embarrassed for our city. this is just one more example of the deep state right at work, a little lhasa, arguing about a box is dumb and its decadent wisconsin has been battling over where you can return your ballot for years in 2020, they had dropbox that same 2022. >> they weren't allowed in 2024. the makeup of the state supreme court changed its more liberal and now drop boxes are back we want to get rid of fake drop boxes.

>> there are fake i'm sara murray with cnn. should we do learned from her on i brought it inside because it wasn't it was unsecured for all i know. >> somebody could have grabbed it it's ronen river. now we would ever real crime on her hands some of those hagari saying mean you might have done something illegal and moving the ban? absolutely not know. have you heard anything about all of these investigations that may be related to this? now? >> all right. >> do you regret losing you know, there's a saying that dogs don't bark at park cars i've had to get attention here from time to time to upset the status quo. >> now that the dropbox is in use secured to the ground, locked an empty by officials, a daily drop boxes are fraudulent there for they get disrupt, they disappear, then all of a sudden they show up fraudulent drop boxes have become a magnet for misinformation. >> the issue came up again during trump's rally in

juneau, wisconsin so how did you end up on stage at the trump rally? >> really, it was just to call up from the president. i have something very important. i think you're going to want to hear in dodge county in this 2024 election, there are zero drop boxes where you actually successfully discouraged some municipal clerks from using drop boxes but a handful remain in dodge county despite his warnings if we have an area of the law which has constantly being subverted, we're going to find ways to what roadblocks in the way of individuals that are going to break the law. >> you're suggesting that you know, the ballot box the constantly being subverted and there's just there is not proof to back that up. >> there is the appearance that it is occurring and we are making sure that it's not going to happen. >> but you are not an election official. so why should your doubts? about the election set the tone for how this whole

county should vote. >> because i have to investigate the crimes that happened. if they happen, and my office they happen, but they haven't been reported yet. >> well, we have calvi election law violation that happens just about every time around. so when election laws violated i have to investigate that in a county trump won by 30 points in 2020. schmidt says the local community is with him, but i'm very well supported by our constituency here. do i answer to the rest of the country no, i don't answer my voters here in des county. >> sara murray, cnn, juneau, wisconsin coming up next new episode of my podcast about grief and loss called all there is is just been released will be goldberg is my guest for moving conversation about the ripple effects of grief in her life. >> so preview in a moment >> we look at the news of the week and asked questions like, what does a comedy show doing on cnn? >> people have spoken i have something racist you go to

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a child when she came home and found her mom having a mental health crisis the open door, the closet shaking, kind of shaking in muttering and then i came in, said my mama. and then she kind of just turned around went over to the stove turn the gas on and put her head in it. and i thought this this this is bad so what do i do? >> what it must be terrifying? >> well, i think ai some adult thing in my brain said, you have to speak to her and ask, what's happening. you have to ask her clearly. and so this located said my and she pulled her head out and she said, go get miss viola, who was are downstairs neighbor.

>> she pulled her head out of the others, pulled her head out of the men. and i could smell the gas so got miss viola she called the ambulance they tied my mother to the gurney waiting for the elevator to come and off. they went and no one said, oh, and this is what's going on when she returned from two years being locked up having electroconvulsive therapy and god knows what else did she had no idea who you were? >> no she's thinking, i tell you a secret i said yeah. >> said i know who you are when when they brought me back i just knew that whatever they said, if they said this guy was orange and i saw it was blow, i was going to say it was orange because she did not want to be sent back there. >> never you wrote something i you said i had no clue that things would change so

dramatically for me once they were gone it's not like either one could have done anything about dying. >> but from time to time, i feel like why did he all leave me here? yeah. >> i asked the ai yeah because we have stuff we got to get done. >> that's why and we're not supposed to. >> this is not our time it's not our time. we got kids and grandkids and they need to know us they need they need to know us that's why that's my belief >> yeah. >> it happens, it just happens yeah. >> yeah. but yeah i find myself asking that question

it three of us >> hope so. realized when i asked that that it's very much it's the question like the 10-year-old me is asking. it's like the angry question about hard-hearted child of like why did you all leave yeah. and, you know i thought how what a terrible thing that would be to do to my kid, to knowingly do to my kid. who actually likes me she's a really good person and a fine woman and she's raised she and her husband have raised three fine, very bizarre children

why would you leave them with that >> yeah. i'm glad. >> yeah, me too. i think well reminder their resources if you or someone, you know, needs help, you can call or text the suicide and crisis lifeline at 988 is open 24 hours a day. the full interview with whoopi goldberg is available. now, you to listen, you can point your camera at the qr code on the screen, click on the link, that pops up. you can also get the podcast's anywhere you listen to podcasts we've, also starting something new and online grief community at cnn.com, forward slash. all there is online. it's a way i hope you can feel a little less lonely in your grief. you can connect with me and others living with grief, you can leave comments and share your own experiences as well. you can listen to the podcast's there. you can watch the entire video version of the interview with whoopi. you can also watch it on cnn to youtube channel, right now. check out the new online grief community it cnn.com, forward slash. all there is online. the news

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