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and right now, two candidates are on a media blitz hoping to reach as many voters as possible during this final sprint. today, vice president kamala harris is sitting down with fox news for an interview that is set to air this evening. a short time ago, we saw former president trump telling an audience of all women that he is quote, the father of ivf oh, i want to talk about ivf you don't hear that i'm the father of ivf. >> we really are the party for it we weren't fertilization and it's all the way. and the democrats tried to attack us on it. and we're out there on ivf even more than them. so would totally in favor of it the fertility treatment has of course become a flashpoint in the nationwide clash over abortion and reproductive rights and has come under threat since the supreme court overturned roe v. >> wade in 2022. our correspondents are live with us

now covering both campaigns. so let's begin with cnn's alayna treene. alayna, what else to trump? to say during the fox town hall? >> while we're on, i do just want to touch on those ivf comments because i do think it was one of the more bizarre moments from last night. look, when i talked to donald trump's top advisers about that comment where he called himself the father of ivf. >> they didn't respond directly to that exact like to quote but they did argue that donald trump does believe that he has been a leader on that issue for the party overall, especially given i mean, remember back in february, when the alabama supreme court had ruled essentially that frozen embryos are children that had led to many hospitals and clinics in the state to pausing access to ivf and ivf treatments. >> donald trump quickly came out and said that he supports ivf and that he thinks people should continue to be able to have access to it. so that is what i was told he was referring to last night. but as you said, and i think we have

to be very clear on this. so reason that this is even a topic of discussion right now about questions since over whether women can access those statements is because of the dobbs decision and because donald trump had put a conservative supreme court justices on the bench, but to get to the other part of other parts of what he said during that town hall. i think another very striking moment was when he was asked directly about what he meant when he said over the weekend and that the greatest threat to the united states is not our foreign adversaries, but the enemy from within. i want you to take a listen to how he defined it it is the enemy from within and they're very dangerous. >> we have china, we have russia, we have all these countries. if you have a smart president that they can all be handled. the more difficult the pelosi's, these people, there's so sick and there's so evil now, brianna and boris, the reason that this is so notable is because, well, there's a couple of reasons. >> one is that obviously this

was this comment received a lot of backlash as soon as he said it over the weekend, but a lot of republican allies had actually taken to the shows and to social media to try and defend the donald trump, they had argued that he was referring when he said the enemy from within, that he was referring to protesters and rioters. he had even said that he would send the military and to deal with that. but donald trump made very clear during that town hall that he was referring to democrats and to political opponents. he directly mentioned the pelosi, i think that's what one thing to keep in mind. i think the other part of this, of course, is that some of what we've been hearing from republicans for several weeks now is that their rhetoric, particularly when they argue that donald trump is a threat to democracy could be to blame for the assassination attempts on the former president's life. and they have argued that republicans don't use that same type of language. i think it's very clear that donald trump is also using a pretty dangerous language in the leadup to the election, especially in this

final stretch before november 5, alayna treene thank you so much for that update. let's go to cnn's eva mckend now, because eve of vice president harris is going to be in battleground, pennsylvania today alongside more than 100 republicans who have come out in support of her. we're also going to see her on fox news later tonight. she's obviously trying to reach disaffected republicans. >> she is boris, that's why we're going to continue to see harris lean into this country over party message in an appeal to republican voters, the vice president plans to blanche trump for previously calling for the termination of the constitution shall also warn of the threat. a second trump term poses in her view. and sling him him for this comment that he made, that the military should handle the enemy from within. at this point, we have a sense of what this campaign argument sounds like. she aim to draw contrasts with the former president and a conversation with charlemagne tha god, an answer to this criticism that she's too rehearsed on the campaign trail. take a listen.

>> what do you say to people who say >> i would say you're welcome i mean, listen, here's the thing i love having conversations is which is why i'm so happy to be with you this afternoon. and the reality is that there are certain things that must be repeated to ensure that i have everyone know what i stand for and the issues that i think are at stake in this election and boris and brianna today at that event in pennsylvania, she's going to be joined by republican former congressman adam kinzinger and former georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan, among others, the event is going to take place in washington crossing close to where george washington and troops crossed the delaware river in 1776. >> of course, a turning point in the american revolution, so heavy on the patriotism theme. there she then heads to wisconsin, back to michigan, and then she ends the week in georgia. boris, brianna all right. eva mckend. thank you so much for that. let's talk about

all of this with our political experts. we have meghan hays was the director of message planning for the biden white house and kristen davidson is a republican strategist and partner with axiom strategies. all alright, kristin, the father of ivf is this one you think trump's should lean into you know, i don't really know what that means, but i do know that trump has been for our party. >> the on the forefront of promoting ivf women's health. i mean, when you look when you look back to the primary of last year trump was getting hit by his opponents in the primary for being too moderate on issues like abortion and women's health and ivf. so go back to that decision in alabama, trump was one of the first republicans to come out and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, we are not going to do anything to harm that, to get in the way of it. then promoting it now, i don't necessarily know the terminology. i think that townhall could have been missed opportunity to have someone maybe like megyn kelly or katie britt or money or someone there to, you soften the message a little bit, but i mean, no one can deny that in the party he has been on the forefront

pushing it and i don't think women really think he's going to come and do anything to take that away. that's a democrats stare, scare tactic and, look at what he says. he's going to do what he's pushing it's in the party. he's been the most vocal, basically told the whole party to get in line. no one's touching ivf, no one's jeopardizing it, and the party largely has that attack line from democrats is based on what lawmakers, state lawmakers in alabama put forth that eventually was overturned by the state meghan, i'm curious though what you think trump is trying to do here because to kristen's point, trump caught a lot of republicans off guard saying that the federal government should pay for ivf, right? >> i think he is trying to muddy the waters, right. he has overwhelmingly said numerous times that he is the person who overturned roe v. wade. he takes full credit for that. and i think that women both democrat and republican public in women see that their reproductive freedoms and their health decisions or not in their hands anymore. and so where he has been more moderate on ivf, i don't think that i think it's kind of too little

too late for these independent voters. i mean, obviously we'll see what happens in november, but i think that he is trying to muddy the waters and say no, no, no. i actually did not go as far as you think i did or i'm not here to take away your rights i think the message there has already laid. >> i wonder what you think meghan, because in this same interview, he's doubling down on his enemy from within comments. he, as we just heard a reporter highlight named checking the pelosi's and we should note certainly what some rhetoric because perhaps meant for one pelosi, which is paul pelosi when we look at his focus on that, what do you think about him saying that and whether that may actually be a missed opportunity? >> so i think that he is using fear as a motivator here. and i think that he is trying to motivate the base these things play well with his base and with social media unfortunately, there really disgusting comments given the attacks on paul pelosi, but also, we know that he will follow through with some of these things or try to follow through with some of these things. i think last time there were people in his administration and said, well, you can't actually go after your political opponents here.

you can't actually go and prosecute these folks. i don't know that he will have that same those same types of people in place next time. so i do think it is worrisome if being on the other side why don't i mean, no one's talking about how president biden and 2022 compared his political opponents as domestic terrorist and said that they were like jefferson davis. so look, politics is very emotional. and let's not pretend like democrats haven't gone too far in some of their rhetoric as well. just look at the many things that democrats have said leading up to the assassination attempt against the former president. and so you know, we can sparse words here and there, but to say that donald trump is the only person who have said something a little bit harsh. let's go back and look at joe biden. let's go back and look at every democrat and just a week after the former president, the assassination attempt on him, they lost their politics of joy and they were going right back at him. >> i think the difference is that they were using maybe james that folks don't like names that are outside. what i guess you would call traditional politics free 2016 but they were calling voters to action, whereas trump is saying that the national guard and the military should step in to go

after i forget, the military went after jefferson davis to and biden was saying, my opponents are just like jefferson davis they actually seceded from the union exactly. well, i mean, that's what i'm saying. biden was was basically invoking civil war and those 2022 comments and no one had outrage then that was the sitting president, united states. so no one is saying that you know, we can again say that those comments were right or wrong, but let's not pretend that every politician is innocent because both sides have had i'm instead of maybe potentially gone too far. >> what do you think? i think that there is only one president that's had called for an insurrection and it wasn't joe biden, it was donald trump. >> so i think that his little proof and the actions there kristen trump is taping an interview with univision today. he's trying to court latino support yesterday, though he said the hispanic and african-american voters who vote for harris should have their head examined. what do you think about comments like that? do you think that that works for him? do you think that convinces some people? think that turns people away?

>> i was looking at the two campaigns they have two very distinct strategies. i do think the trump campaign is a base turnout strategy. and so i think if you like donald trump, you're going to double down and say, yeah, i can't believe someone like that. a vote for him. if you're disaffected republican or an independent, or maybe undecided your problem? probably going to take a step back and say, i don't think that's very helpful. he said the same thing about jewish voters and catholic voters and some of us kinda within said i don't know if that was the best way to say that. i don't think it brings people over, but it gins up the base for sure. now, look at harris, i think she is making those overtures to republicans and to undecideds. now, it's going to whoever is going to win, it's gonna be the kind of lecture we're going to have. but this is a base election. harris is not going to win. is this is going to be the kind of election where it's going to be decided on the margins in places like washington pennsylvania, or elsewhere then harris might look out, but it's a totally two different strategies that was a base play and she is playing more to those undecided voters. >> how do you see the outreach megan for harris going after

black and latino voters and also republicans tonight. >> i think it's a smart strategy you have to meet voters where you are. i think that people get their news sources now and get their information from all different areas in all different corners of the internet and tv. so i do think it's a smart strategy on her part, but i do think that you're right that there is a base play from trump and people aren't going to do that. i actually think that we are. people are less undecided and it's more about who's going to turn out. so if you're going to say things that are going to affect your moderate conservatives, they may not turn out where that will impact the actual outcome. >> meghan and kristen. thank you so much to both you. we really appreciate it should become assertion will come sources telling you cnn that israel is ready to respond to iran's ballistic missile attack ahead exactly when us officials believe it could be launched. >> and it's been decades since the menendez murder case captivated the country. now the la da's office is reviewing the case against erik and lyle menendez. details on new evidence just released in moments and later, many americans are drowning in debt.

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strike ever on israel let's take you live to cnn jerusalem correspondent jeremy diamond. jeremy, what more are you learning about the timeline for this counter strike well, a source familiar with the matter telling us that israel's plans for that retaliation against iran are indeed ready. >> it is just a matter of when the israeli prime minister gives the order to go still ahead. us officials are telling us as well that they believe that this strike by israel on iran will come before november 5. that is before election day. and of course we know that there has been a range of discussions between the u.s. and israel over the course of the last week-and-a-half to try and get on the same page in terms of what that israeli retaliation actually looks like, the u.s. has provided an anti air defense system to israel, which is arriving on the ground over the course of this week. and of course, once it is active, that could be a moment for israel to be able to go ahead and carry out that attack. as iran is very likely

to retaliate. but of course the question is, how close will this all come before election day could certainly thrust this the middle east tensions. and of course, a potential renewed crisis between iran and israel right into the center of the political maelstrom before election day. >> and jeremy tell us the latest on gaza we're hearing some pretty grisly details about conditions there yeah. >> that's right. the head of emergency services in northern gaza saying that he has now seen evidence that some of the bodies that have been brought in from the streets of northern gaza, where there has been fierce fighting over the course of the last week or so that those bodies have been coming back with signs that they have been scavenged by dogs and animals in the streets of northern gaza, as far as the living, there are thousands of people. he says, who are still trapped in their homes in jabalya where some of the fiercest fighting has been happening and where the israeli military has really been laying a sort of siege on that area, trapped by the bombardments, but also by a worsening

humanitarian city. we are seeing now hundreds of thousands of people in northern gaza who are at dire risk of as it relates to the humanitarian situation. there. and un officials as well as other humanitarian organizations are having trouble even reaching parts of northern gaza today, the office of humanitarian affairs for the un ben saying that it took their team ten different attempts to be able to reach a hospital in northern gaza where they were going to be delivering fuel and supplies and then transferring some of those patients there to areas further south. and it just shows you the difficulties that officials are having right now on the ground. and this all as the united it's states is saying that israel is simply not doing enough to get humanitarian aid sufficient humanitarian aid into northern gaza, warning that if israel doesn't do something to remedy that situation, fact, if it doesn't take very specific steps to remedy that situation with some 350 aid trucks per day into gaza over the course of the next 30 days. he's than

the united states is warning that it may cut off some arms supplies to israel. so obviously that messaging being received by israeli officials, but no official response yet. >> brianna boris, i will see how they receive it. jeremy diamond, thank you for that. we're going to discuss this further now with retired army major, major general james spider marks. he is a cnn military analyst. it's also the head of geopolitical strategy at academy securities general. israel is plan to respond to iran is ready. that's what a source is telling cnn. what does that signify to you and what do they do now, while it is ready, but it's not being implemented? >> well, brianna brianna, i think as jeremy indicated, there's probably a waiting period for the arrival of the fad us air defense system to thicken and kind of provide some additional layer rain to the israeli air defense system that's probably number one and

number two, when you're looking at the various targets within the master target list, that's been prepared or has been prepared. there was there's always final determination in terms of the currency of the intelligence, the validity of the intelligence, the source of the intelligence and then a reading of the current condition on the ground where you intend to strike. that's a very laborious process and they need to go through that that that's an absolute necessity before you make a determination that this is a target that you want to strike. so i would imagine that that target list is pretty robust. also. what type of delivery means is this going to be a kinetic strike? are you looking at a drone or you're looking at a ballistic missile, or is there the application of cyber capabilities where you really can do some out the injection of some malware to cause some problems that may not pop up immediately, but then have some increased

downstream effects, negative effects obviously on the iranian all that calculation is taking place right now and that takes time and so how do you expect iran to be looking at this in preparing its defense? concerned. i can tell you probably from the top to the bottom, the iranian leadership knows that they're on a hit list. they don't know what the target list looks like. they've heard what we've heard, which is israeli said they're not going after nuclear facilities and they're not going to go after the oil facilities that leaves a very wide target list of possibilities the iranians are probably taking some of their senior leadership, putting him in protected positions. they are probably reducing the footprint they have in terms of how how they emanate. they're going to shut down some of their target, their radar capabilities. there are probably going to come off the net and certain areas so that they now hopefully we'll blind or at least make the

intelligence that the israelis have already acquired latent not as current as could be. so these are the things that they're doing. i think is a matter of routine and they're probably going to have preposition capabilities in terms of their air defense to counter whether whatever the israelis decide to use in terms of attacking targets from the air. >> so you said israel will obviously have this time for the fad to be set up. but we're also learning that us officials are expecting the counter attack on iran to come before the election here in the u.s. a. senior administration an official saying that netanyahu appears actually highly sensitive to any potential political ramifications of israel's actions in the u.s. how does the election figure into this as you see it? >> well that's that's one of the factors that certainly the administration is probably going forward saying, hey,

we'd prefer not to have this thing explode on us days before the election. it may, it may impact the number of folks who vote. it may impact obviously what party is going to be elected. these political determinations, but they very much dr. the application of force. but politics is military is politics by other means. we understand that we see that vividly. we've seen that in our history how netanyahu responds is entirely up to him. if the calculus, if his determination is such that he needs to strike now that there are targets that are pleading that might disappear, it wouldn't be surprising if he looking to see if that's the case. >> general marks great to have you. thank you thanks, brianna. still to come on, cnn news central, former president trump is seeing huge spikes in cash-flow from one of his richest donors that guy, their elon musk. will have details

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during the service. so we'll be monitoring this moment back to the race for the white house former president trump getting some help in pennsylvania from one of the world's best-known and also most controversial billionaire is fair to say, elon musk just posted saying that he'll be campaigning for trump in the critical swing state, starting today through monday and new federal election filings show that the world's richest man is getting much more than his time to trump's reelection bid yeah, he's one of 3 billionaires that together have given $220 million over three months to trump directly to his campaign. >> but through political action committees that back the former president cnn's politics for fredricka scout and is here with the details for rico. let's talk about first, where all this money is coming from. >> well, i mean, it's coming from their pockets, right? elon musk has given nearly 75 million to a super pac that he started earlier this year. you have miriam adelson, who is a big supporter of donald trump's and the heir to a

casino fortune giving 95 million. then you also have a midwestern packaging magnate that maybe he's not a household name to a lot of folks were treaty line who is given nearly 50 million to a super pac that he has helped found. so a lot of money coming in here in the final weeks of this campaign to help donald trump try to make up the difference. i mean, kamala harris is, as you both know, has really been a fundraising juggernaut, right? and these folks are spending a lot of money to help out donald trump. yeah and the trump does then have to rely on these pacts, right? to navigate some things which certainly requires some trust what, why do they, why do these billionaires want to back-trump? what are they aiming for? i think there were a number of reasons. i mean, some of it is just ideology. if you look look at somebody like doctor adelson, we choose a big supporter of israel and has backed donald trump during his first time in office and was

very supportive of his move to move the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. i mean, she was right there, so i think that's something that they have in common. i think that people are probably motivated a little bit by tax policy. obviously, donald trump has talked extensively about his hope to extend his tax cuts from 2017 that expire in 2025. and then i think you also have maybe for some folks who have this sort of libertarian hands-off, my technology attitude are also drawn to him. so a variety of reasons i think maybe just similar motivations, but obviously it is a lot of money and we always hear about efforts to remove money from politics, right you roll your eye prize, but i'm curious if this is all legal, right? there's no well, that's the thing it's, you know, these are all this is all money that's flowing two super pacs and we've traditionally thought that super pacs are supposed to be independent of the

candidates they support. but the federal election commission, earlier this year sort of tweak that rule a little bit and said well, when you're going out and you're talking to voters are leaving mailers canvassing that kind of activity can be coordinated with the campaigns and people have seized on it. i mean, that's one of the things that the musk super pac is doing. they are in battleground. states are trying to persuade people to vote for donald trump. and he is largely outsourced his ground operation to these organizations. so we'll see if it works. >> and if it doesn't, he may have some regrets. fredricka schouten. thank you so much. always appreciate you. so later today, relatives of erik and lyle menendez will publicly asked los angeles county's district attorney to free the brothers decades after they were convicted of murdering their parents. we'll have details ahead on that and some potential new evidence

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5, four six-nine for for live, better, debt-free. >> how solomon in new york york. and this is cnn family of erik and lyle menendez will be pushing for the brother's release from prison at a news conference in los angeles, the menendez brothers are now in their 50s and they're serving life sentences because without the possibility of parole after they were convicted of killing their parents, and the families beverly hills mansion back in 1989 at their first trials, both claim self-defense after years of abuse, including sexual abuse by their father dominic patten joins us now live. he's the executive editor of deadline hollywood. dominic. thank you so much for being with us. i think a lot of this new interest in the menendez brothers is tied to the netflix series that's really brought public interest

in the case. and also a celebrities that have long advocated for them, including rosie o'donnell because in a recent interview, she said that she spoke to them and their lawyer. we have that called them after i spoke to marc last night about doing this appearance and i said, what's going on and they said we there hesitant to hope after being in jail and prison for 35 years and being abused for his childhood up to that point. >> you know, these men don't have a lot of bandwidth to hope for what exactly happened what role and she have others. >> she and others played in their stomach? >> well, one of the things you know, is rosie o'donnell will be at that press conference that you mentioned earlier in downtown la outside the criminal justice building, the very building where the menendez trial is happened. so i was oj simpson, harvey weinstein, and many others celebrity advocacy. kim

kardashian has also been someone who has come to the menendez defense that's been a huge part of this. but as you also mentioned, there has been the recent netflix drama series monster, more perhaps more importantly, last year there was a peacock docuseries about the two brothers were in what some are calling new evidence was introduced, which is a letter from one of the brothers to one of their cousins detailing sexual abuse from their father music executive, jose mendez. and there was also a letter from one of the members of the boy band menudo talking about sexual abuse that he claims he suffered at the hands of the menendez brothers, other so all of this is bubbling up at the same time, which is also and i should point out, you mentioned that the da has recently reviewed new discovered evidence. what's not that new? they've had it for a year. a lot of people are here on october 3rd, the da george gascon, who is in a very, very bad looking can campaign where he's down over 20 points, went before the press to say, oh, we've got

this evidence and we're thinking about doing something. and there's gonna be a hearing november. so there's a lot of inner politics, inner la politics going on here. i mean, this is la, you guys know, car crashes in the weather and true crime or the currency of the realm. and the menendez brothers have certainly been delivering the dividends for decades i grew up in the 80s in southern california, so i know what you're talking about. you mentioned the da and that letter and i do want to read part of it. it says i never know when it's going to happen and it's driving me crazy every night i stay up thinking he might come in. i need to put it out of my mind. i know. you said before, but i'm afraid you don't know dad like i do. he's crazy and dominic advocates for the brothers in this includes a we mentioned some of the high profile folks, but there's also kim kardashian who's advocating for them and they say that their convictions were due in part to the public's now archaic view. so a male victims of sexual assault, do you think

that a change in public attitudes about that topic is going to factor in here. >> absolutely. >> i think that the cultural shifts we've seen in society over the past 25 years, 25 years. >> obviously play a role. the da talked about that as well, and the family members, there's over a dozen of them, many of whom have flown into los angeles for today's press conference. we'll talk about that too, as they undoubtedly asked for the release of their of their of the two boys but the thing is, i think important no one disagrees. those boys shocked their parents at point-blank range. they did, in fact, pursue their mother, kitty menendez, after the shooting of their father and these trials, while there is this new evidence is really a question of here is, is the da going to bring in something like a sentencing review and do sentence and certainly they've been behind bars for decades. no one can dispute that. is there going to be a new trial? what form will that new trial go or is a lot of this like i'll also add the da recently bringing up allegations against

marilyn manson after letting them linger for a long time. is this la city politics at play? and the menendez brothers are pawns in this it's very hard to tell. and i think all of those factors play a role important context to keep in mind as we watch for that press conference later today, dominic patten. thank you so much for the update. appreciate you. >> of course so as voters go to the polls over the next 20 days, the economy remains the top issue for most. >> there's a new concern for many americans specifically when it comes to paying off the cars. >> details ahead cnn get the day's top five stories all in one podcast the five things you need to hear in under five minutes. >> listen wherever you get your podcast, my moderate to severe crohn's symptoms kept me out of the picture. now, i have sky risen

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average perceived probability of missing a minimum debt payment stands at 14%. >> now, this is the fourth straight month where this number has gone up and as you mentioned, this is the highest level since april of 2020 when millions of people were losing their jobs outside of the pandemic, you have to go back to january 2017 for a higher figure there and just to note, this is measuring all debt, so yes, credit cards, but also mortgages and car loans and student debt as well. >> and this is clearly a sign that some americans, despite low unemployment and cooling inflation, some people are obviously still feeling financial stress, especially lower income households because this survey found for those making under 50k a year, they have a 20% chance of missing their payments. there's a 20% perceived chance of missing their minimum debt payment. that is more than twice as high as those making more than 100k

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