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>> stop ringing your hands and roll up your precinct, which is what the election was eight years ago. >> that can be made up through hard work set to arrive in milwaukee any moment to continue her weeklong spent here in these blue wall states, of course, michigan, pennsylvania, and she'll be doing three stops tomorrow across wisconsin for all the anxiety among democrats, several things fit into that category. >> third party candidates certainly one of them, jill stein, is on the ballot here, but so does rfk junior's. so some democrats wonder if he will still siphon off votes from the former president, even though he's out of the race. erin, the bottom line across the blue wall, these states are incredibly margin of error races. that's why both candidates
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to you, jeff, and thanks so much to all of you for joining us. >> anderson starts now campaigning in pennsylvania, was public and supporters, vice president harris goes on fox how she handled some tough questions and look at two battleground states, night for the second day in a row, early voters turned out in record numbers in georgia and in michigan will speak to congresswoman reportedly warning that vice president harris is quote underwater in michigan polling and later 35 years after killing their parents, will lyle and erik menendez get a new chance to go free. >> a look at new evidence coming to light. good evening. thanks for being with us 20 days until the election and a busy night for us. a town hall with the former president airing later sure. tonight on spanish language television. and just a short time ago, vice president harris was interviewed on fox speaking with bret baier or the vice president was asked about a number of hot-button issues for conservative leaning voters, including the border. and was asked, once again, what makes her different than joe biden?
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>> so you're not joe biden, you're not donald trump, but nothing comes to mind that you would do differently. >> let me be very clear. my presidency will not be a continuation of joe biden's presidency. and like every new president that comes in to office, i will bring my life experiences, my professional experiences, and fresh and new ideas. i represent a new generation of leadership the interview followed a campaign rally in washington crossing pennsylvania. >> the vice president appearing with notable republicans who have endorsed her. one of those republicans joins us now former georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan is now a cnn political commentator, also with us and mckayla car, former chief of staff to kevin mccarthy and cnn political commentator jonah goldberg, co-founder and editor-in-chief of the dispatch. this interview is all about appealing to republican voters who may be disenchanted with president trump's. so we have three republicans with us, jeff, how important was it for the vice president to distance herself from president biden. and do you think she did? did a good job well, i think we first got
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to start off. >> she dove into the deep end of the pool with fox news and brett baer, and she did extremely well. she answered the questions on message and you know, look, the republican she's trying to track down right now at this point in the campaign or not, the republican, she's going to flip from trump to herself. she just tried to flip those those republicans that are, weren't going to show up and vote and just sit on the couch. i think they heard a message today that was consistent and they were able to figure out do they want somebody who's more liberal than they are, or somebody who lies to them every day. and i think at the end of the day, more republicans that sit in the middle are going to, are going to flock toward somebody that they can legislatively work with that's more liberal but doesn't lie to them every time he opens his mouth. >> jonah, i want to get your overall impression of just how you think this did or did not appeal to any persuadable republicans? i do want to before that, just play this back-and-forth. they had over the biden-harris record on immigration and border security decision to terminate remain in mexico at the beginning of your
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administration? >> at the beginning of our administration within practically hours of taking the oath the first bill that we offered congress before we worked on infrastructure, before the inflation reduction act, before the chips and science act, before any before the bipartisan, safer communities act. the first bill practically within hours of taking the oath was a bill to fix our immigration system? >> yes, ma'am. it was called a us citizen citizenship act of 2000, exactly 21. and essentially, but to citizenship yes, ma'am. >> i've finished math, finished responding. >> but you have to let me finish the white house and the house and the senate. >> they didn't bring up bonding to the point you're raising. and i'd like to finish. >> yes, ma'am we recognized from day one that to the point of this being your first question, it is a priority for
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us as a nation and for the american people how do you think she dealt with that? and general, overall yeah. >> i mean, look, i think she dealt with i think there was one of her shake your moments. i think that that moment as well as the entire interview is really kind of a rorschach test for a lot of people. if you went in thinking, negatively about kamala harris, you came out feeling like your priors were confirmed. if you went in thinking positively about her, you thought your priors were confirmed if he didn't like bret baier on fox news, did, right i think she could have had a better answer on the substance at the same time. >> i'm not sure that the answer that she gave is going to move a single voter in in any significant regarded sounded like she knew what she was talking about. the people who don't pay close attention to this or not deeply bought into it. and it sounded like she didn't to people who are on the other side of the argument. i think the inter
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dueling interruption stuff probably helped her because i mean, i know shocks you, anderson, but a lot of normal voters don't like the media these days and it's not just like the mainstream liberal media. it's the media and politicians pushing back and not taking gf from reporters, even brett baer, who i thought was in his rights asking the question, probably plays well for her. it plays tough. it probably plays well to the voters that are gettable for so i think i understand why we're talking you can about it. >> i don't think that necessarily three days from now. >> i mean, if you look on twitter, you would think the campaign's over for either trump or harris. and i think those reactions are all ridiculous. >> mikayla, how do you think she did? i mean, do you think this interview could win over some nikki haley voters on the margins? >> so it's interesting, i don't think that when you're looking at who she was trying to reach here, right? the voters who are die-hard republicans, she wasn't trying to go to them. she was trying to see if there was anybody in the middle worthy and able to
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still persuade. and what we see from the polls is that those people that are undecided, the 2% in some states, the 6% and other states that are honestly we undecided. they're undecided because they care about policies they want to hear more details and more specifics, specifically on what she's going to do about the border and immigration and the economy. and we didn't hear any specifics to jonah's point just now, it sounded like she knew what she was talking about. if you're not really paying attention, but her inability, this as far into the game to say how she would differentiate herself from joe biden, which is the ultimate question when you're trying to be a change candidate, i think she ultimately did more harm than good by doing that interview. >> jeff, i want to play the moment when trump's enemy from within remarks came up, was watching enemy within an enemy within talking about the american people suggesting he would turn the american military on the american people. we asked that question to the former
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president today, harris faulkner at a town hall and this is how he responded i heard about that. they were saying i was like threatening. i'm not threatening anybody. they're the ones doing the threatening. they do phony investigations. i've been investigated more than alphonse capone. he was the greatest know it's true. we don't take called weaponization of government is terrible. >> so i'm sorry. and with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the american people that's not what you just showed where he was asked about that. no that's not what you just showed in all fairness question that we asked him. he didn't show that. and here's the bottom line. he has repeated it many times. >> i mean, bret baier did not actually showed the clip where you actually does talk about the enemy within. so it was interesting choice that they made in that advice, prison was correct. i mean, harris
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faulkner played for trump that clip of his enemy within claire's wagner actually played that clip for the former president. then asked him, mr. president, kamala harris i said, you sounded on hinge and unchecked power is in our future. what do you say about that? and trump actually doubled down on this. so let's watch it is the enemy from within, and they're very dangerous. they're marxists and communists and fascists. and they say, i use a guy like adam schiff because they made up the russia, russia, russia hoax. if you have a smart president that they could all be handled. the more difficult or the pelosi's, these people, this so sick again, interesting choice by fox not to actually play that part of the answer, but cnn is also reporting that fox news did not disclose that the female audience that selected for was billed as an all women town hall was packed with local a trump republican supporters. >> but i'm wondering what you make of, of how harris handled herself in that moment, jeff well, first of all, that's just
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classic donald trump. i mean, just say something absolutely unhinged and then try to back away from it as needed. but look, i mean, is he talking about a governor that maybe doesn't go his way, does is he talking about a witness who testifies against him as he talking about a legislator who voted against his agenda and is he talking about a lieutenant governor that doesn't call a special session to usurp democracy. i mean, this is what he's referring to and to me, it's just it's unimaginable to think that we're even in this point, but we are, and we've got to fight hard down the finish line to get kamala harris into the white house, not because i agree with their policies, but because she's the best next step for man erica, i've got to spend a bunch of time around kamala harris today. i got to have private a private meeting with her. i got to listen to somebody talk to a bunch of democrat or republicans, and be able to have a real conversation about consensus. i was able to thank her for making it easier for people like me. she's doing the fundraising. she's performed well in debates. she's answering the question she's doing the interviews. this this
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is this is unhinged from donald trump and we cannot let him have another hall pass to destroy this country. he's already destroyed the party. let's not give a chance to destroy the country. >> everybody stay with us. we're gonna have more on this coming up. we'll show you more of the vice presidents to interview. also speak with a congresswoman now a senate candidate in michigan reportedly warning that harris is, in her words, underwater in her campaign's polling, at least, alyssa slotkin joins us ahead one class president would be slogan wow, working on campaign posters have yep, vote from madison because she's so cool and has the best snacks that are. >> so my experience as a political reporter, the best campaign slogans are short and memorable like this well, that's definitely memorable
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dollars to help prison inmates are detained illegal aliens to transition to another gender. >> i will follow the law and it's a law that donald trump actually followed you're probably familiar with. now it's a public report that under donald trump's administration these surgeries were available to on a medical necessity basis to people in the federal prison system. and i think frankly that ad from the trump campaign is a little bit of like throwing you know, stones when you live in a glass house don't know, obviously this is a reference to comments she had made. >> i think when she was running back in 2019 or so, how effectively have trump and allies in the media leverage this issue which is, i mean, it's an issue. it's not really front and center for issue except in this campaign against harris
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effective if you talk to people in trump world, they think it's one of the most powerful messages you can't watch a lot of football games without seeing these ads. >> they think it's working on the way that all this talk about young hispanic and black men hemorrhaging, not hemorrhaging, but migrating and some numbers to the away from harris. and they think this is one of the things that drives it because it's it's a culturally conservative message for that crowd do i think campaign the election is going to hinge on it, not really except for the fact we're talking about such tiny numbers and just to get back to an earlier point, i agree that they're only like 46% of undecided republican types in this election. but the real, the real mother load of votes for both campaigns is to get people who like trump or who like harris to choose between staying home and voting. and i think that that's what harris is trying really, really hard to shore up. and so is trump and they're going to very different constituencies for that. so again, i don't think because ad is going to add or
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this part of the interview is going to have that huge effect. >> and the kayla, what else stood out to you in this interview? >> i think what i'm seeing more of is just a lack of authenticity. we see it over and over again and to jonah's point from earlier, it's good that there's a lot of attempts to shore up different, different constituencies different little buckets where the polls are saying they're, they're not doing well, or that they think they can get a little bit more with kamala harris, its men. she's having a hard time with men. and so now we're seeing that go to fox news at sea. men watch fox news. we have enough trouble with african american men. go on charlamagne, tha god, let's see if we can get some people there. i think the problem is, is that what they want to know is where where she stands and even in that most recent clip, she didn't answer the question. she didn't tell you what she thinks she didn't tell you. it's all about i'm not donald trump. that will get you so far but i don't know if we're at the ceiling of that. and i also don't know if the undecideds are going to be convinced on never substantively answering a question, jeff, i mean, do you
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do believe that i mean, do you believe that it's not enough that there's not enough specifics are still persuadable, the 10% in the middle and is probably much even tighter than that. just want an adult in the room. they want somebody that shows up to work to actually work and not to pander and not to, not to play not to try to self and deer themselves kamala harris, even in the bret baier interview, she showed up as an adult right? we talked about all these gotcha moments and these fringe issues that are small fractions. i mean, look, this whether or not ukraine is a free and sovereign nation is on the ballot in november whether or not nato and western europe remains free and unchallenged by vladimir putin is on the ballot in november, whether or not americans have to pay 4,000 dollars more because donald trump and vance, 2,000% taxes on foreign tariffs. i mean, that's on the ballot that, that to me is where the persuadable group is going to sit there and say, you know what, i've got a choice to make. i can either sit here and
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let the same thing play out with donald trump again, chaos and confusion, or i can make the bold crazy move of voting for a democrat for the first time. and still be a republican. i just voted for kamala harris. that's it. >> jonah, do you see a double-standard? i mean, that donald trump doesn't answer a question. he answers the question he wants to be asked. he rambles, he has no specifics on anything. and never really has people talk about kamala harris's appearance. a lot don't trump these days is a different shade. every day with a weird line down because he doesn't bother to put whatever he's putting on his face to make it that color there. we're looking at right now fully consistent. is there a double standard here it's, it's not even a double-standard. >> there's one standard for donald trump and it's maddening, right? he lies constantly. he says things that are outrageous, and then he
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takes offense at people who offer mild criticism of him and that's because he comes from the world of celebrity. the logic of celebrity applies to him. everyone else is susceptible to logical politics and it's why we unfair and disruptive to the system. but it's also baked in and i wish i knew how to deal with it, but i think it's just part of the rep. political reality. >> jonah goldberg, geoff duncan, mkela, car. thank you so much. appreciate it coming up next the former present dodgers responsibility for his lie about haitians in ohio, yet again, eating pets, then amplifies those same locks for you are pretty yeah. >> what are the kinds we could run on the news before then would never happen if i got news for you saturday at nine on cnn and streaming next day on max, still have symptoms just from moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's disease after a tnf blocker like humira or remicade put them in check with revoke. revoke works differently and it's a once-daily pill when
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are right for you at row that post last sparks a cnn special event two weeks before election day. vice president harris basis voters and takes the pressing questions, lie anderson cooper moderates a cnn presidential hotel home. kamala harris, next wednesday at nine eastern on cnn has learned the foxes all within town hall with former president trump was packed with his supporters, which fox did not disclose at the event he declared himself the father of
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ivf claim the real father of it, robert edwards, who was awarded the 2010 nobel prize in medicine for his accomplishment might take issue with where he still alive. >> he also doubled down on, as you mentioned on his description and political opponents as the enemy within. and we'll talk about all that shortly. first though, keeping them honest, how more than a month after it was initially debunked, he has just doubled down on his lie about haitian immigrants in springfield, ohio in springfield they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. >> they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there so that was, september 10. >> it was a lie. the foreign president had reason to know it was when he said it, his running mate's campaign had been told her it was alive the day before had a call from one of vance's staffers and asked, hey, are the rumors true or pets being taken and eaten? >> by the immigrants in your community? i said no i said there's no substantiated
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evidence or proof that this has happening. it's a baseless claim so no, it's not happening then to see that continue to be retweeted by vance himself the next day. and then sitting there watching the presidential debate to see that but that is the light that's being shared on our community. even though we've, we've told them that it's not true, it's untrue >> there was a day before donald trump took the lie about springfield's haitian community national on the debate stage tonight, univision is going to be airing a taped town hall with the former president and network really several clips, including this one yes, that's been soon as my question to you, very respectfully, is, do you really believe that these people are eating the people's pets? thank you. >> well, thank you very much. this was just reported. i was i was just saying what was
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reported. that's been reported and eating other things too, that then i supposed to be. but this is all i do is report. i have not i was there. i'm going to be there and we're going to take a look and i'll give you a full report. what i do, but that's been in the newspapers and reported pretty broadly. >> so obviously what newspapers including the wall street journal, which he probably has, he reads maybe or has somebody reid has actually been heavily reporting. is that the story is false. it began when a springfield resident told police that she suspected her haitian neighbors of chopping up her cat after finding meat in the backyard as it happens, the cat, miss sassy, had been hiding in the basement and was found days later and as you saw from springfield city manager, a moment ago, he told the vance campaign a day before the debate at the pet eating stories were baseless, but the foreign president isn't repeating any of that. he's repeating a lie that he claims has been reported knowingly. he's repeating this, but saying he's only repeating
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reports of what a lot of people are saying as he often puts it here, he is back in 2011 defending his false claim that president obama was not born in this country than doing what he did tonight, tacking a new falsehood on top the fact is a lot of people are troubled with this just like i am, but believe 911 are the previous governor said that he saw the birth certificate. >> now they're saying, oh, it wasn't a birth certificate of this is typical of light breaths there were supposed to be at birth certificate. i don't think it exists, anderson, i hope it exists, but i don't think it exists. >> it wasn't the previous governors, the president the health director for the previous governor who we just interviewed on camera says, yes, she has actually seen it, and it doesn't say it's fine. is set of spending millions of dollars lawyers, he should say it's okay to release my bursitis. >> you've said this millions of dollars on lawyers he also claimed that he hired detectives and flew them to hawaii to investigate this, which was
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at the end claiming their president biden was spending millions of dollars on lawyers over this. that wasn't i'm sure we're either. but as you saw with the remark tonight about haitians in springfield, quote, eating other things too. it is the way donald trump operates and has for years perspective now from former california republican lieutenant governor, able maldonado, also legendary journalist and author carl bernstein are republican strategist and harris supporter, and a varault. so i mean and i mean the foreign president did this with birtherism. he did this with springfield this is clearly i mean, this must, he must feel this work for him and it probably does work for him. >> it probably does work for him because i think his followers just don't care. and it's a complete double standard if kamala harris it's like this. if joe biden had lied like this, they would have said he had dimension that would have pulled him off the stage. donald trump number one, never expresses regret never apologizes, never admits that he was wrong. so that's number one. and number two, if his lips are moving, the likelihood
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is he is lying and he repeats the lie over and over and over. again. he did it with january 6. he didn't worthy i was accepting the results of the election. what bigger lie is there then that when the other day i heard him lie about how he is responsible for lowering the price of insulin to $35, something that the biden administration dated is one of their top accomplishments just repeats and repeats it on a loop. and things that that he repeated enough. people will get tired of coral. allies does work. i mean, repeating lies works, it works and it's the fundament of his campaign. but what we now see in these closing weeks is that this is a camp a campaign in which there is going to be a reaffirmation of regular political order in this country. or there's going to be a real triumph of fascism in which good, well-meaning republicans have allowed themselves to get carried down
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this path and go along with this rhetoric that it's really blunt absolutely. list, listen to general milley. say of donald trump fascist to the core, the most dangerous man in america, general milley is a pretty level guy. let's listen to what donald trump is telling us. he is telling us what he's going to do really, by the way, which the guy who stood next to trump when he marched out of the white house, held up the bible was somebody handed him and milley regretted doing that because he was in uniform and he felt it was looking back, felt it was inappropriate, but it is extraordinary that the top the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff under trump is calling him a fascist and other senior military leaders. >> what we're really looking at here though, is the first seditious president of the united states. now seeking reelection in which he has told all of us what he will do. court marshals for these
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generals, adam schiff, a congressman. he wants tried for treason. he's not kidding around. >> though able, you're shaking head, you don't believe that no, i respectfully disagree with carl. i general milley speaking on general milley, he was like you just stated, he was standing him with him next to the bible and so forth. and while threaded a lot of these people anderson, when they're working for him he's a good guy. president trump's good when they're working for him donald trump hasn't changed and his whole life. in 2016 when he ran, i don't think they're saying that he was good when they're working for him they've left and they're saying now, but they saw but what i'm saying is that they're only coming after president trump after they leave, or he's been, or they'd been fired, one of the two and on, this, you believe highly decorated general milley, general kelly, who is the chief of staff, whose son died serving this country. you believe that they are making stuff up there.
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>> i'm not saying that yard. what i'm saying, they're only saying this after they've left. >> know what i am saying. anderson, they worked for president trump. right. so they live in the white house. president trump was a good, good precedent. well know what they're not saying that and then now all of a sudden saying he was they were cashing has checked. they were working for him. there were i mean, actually they're getting paid i mean, actually general general milley was working the pentagon. he was the chairman of the joint chiefs at the pleasure of the president. i mean the end of the day he was working for president trump, all of a sudden, either trump fired most people in the military serving the country and are have sworn to defend the constitution, not the president but this i'm talking you how i feel how people all of a sudden come after president trump on the document. >> what do you how you feel is not factually correct. so you're saying saying things would believe is correct. i think a lot of people, please, craig, the polls say it. i mean, the polling, but no. right? but, but what people feel and what polls show is not actually factually correct. you're saying that they saying he was great while they were
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serving under him and then for some reason later on, they're saying is not that's not factually. >> they went to work for him pam for a reason. obviously, at the pleasure of the president, they went to work to help america, to help president trump and all of a sudden they have a disagreement. they move on. and then he's a fascist. >> well, i don't think we can know why they work for them because i think a lot of military people would say they went to work for an administration because they felt they could perhaps temper that administration's there's intent president trump, i mean, donald trump in 2016 when he ran, you know, who he was, you know who he is. >> that's who he is trump is not going to change ever. >> is he a fascist? >> i mean, no, he's not a fascist. carl. >> hi, fascistic thanks. i mean, does he say he's a new yorker? he's a a leader. >> new yorkers who fight, don't usually invoke fascism. does he say fascistic things day after day? i don't i asked her. >> i don't see that, but but also able by the way, you're from california, the central
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perk, the kids and their central park five they were actually new yorkers so the idea that donald trump is a new yorker, and this is what new yorkers say. it's i'm from california and i i mean, we look at new york as their fighters are strong, they tell it like it is, they'll say it out loud. there are very that's a comic book. >> i mean, again, just like there's 8 million people in the city. and so the idea, anyway listen long and often on the doctrine to you know, he, he said it it was reported. >> it was reported to him, and then it's reliably reported or somebody paint him and he's got a hell of a big staff they can find money by saying that it's reported implies it's been reported by some reputable report as opposed to the owner of miss sassy saying, oh, i think this might have happened and then miss sassy actually turns out to be in the basement, which i'm very grateful for, but again, he's
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doubling down on this never gives up i mean, president trump never that not worry you down, right? >> does that not worry you that the person who made lead a country never admits a mistake or never is willing to give up in your words, meaning i live acknowledge highlighted really what they're saying is i lived for four years under president trump america live for you we didn't see i mean, we live pretty darn good. what do you mean you again for your saying if i mean i could i ask you does not does not concern you that anybody democrat or republican i think more all politicians should admit mistakes and i meant mistakes and i've tried to apologize for things shouldn't everybody do that? >> we're all different. we're all different every every minute. >> and remind different world. >> that's interesting to me about this is i mean, i get this from surrogates on all sides, but i find it more with trump's surrogates, the refusal to just say what you actually believe, like oh, yeah, that's that's wrong. >> you shouldn't do that. like it seems like you feel an obligation to just blanketly
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approve everything he does. is there anything he's done that concerns well, i mean, i'm here to talk about what you were discussing the dog and the cat and so forth. and i i believe him when he says it was reported that this was going is nothing you could point to justice kamala harris is acids or anything that would make her different than the biden administration mean is there anything that you think trump should not do or has done badly well, anderson, i mean, when it comes to inflation, he lowered inflation when it comes to the border, he seal the border when it comes to crime, you lowered your the answer. the answer is because there's no one on the on the main issues, know. >> alright. thank you. coming up next. i'm going to speak with congresswoman and senate candidate, reportedly warning that harris is quote underwater in her campaign's polling in the state of michigan, alyssa slotkin joins us. she's a locked in a close race with her republican opponent would be right back
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could not only end up determining the results of the presidential election, balsa, which party controls the senate? >> congresswoman elissa slotkin is running for a senate seat. there. erin is locked in a close race with her republican opponent, former congressman mike rogers. and according to a clip obtained by axios, congresswoman slotkin warn donors last month that her campaign's internal polling shows harris is quote, underwater in michigan the harris team seems to recognize just how important it is for her to win the state yesterday, she was in detroit for a radio town hall. she will be campaigning in grand rapids later this week just a moment. i'll get more on harris, his battle in michigan from congresswoman slotkin and her own senate race first, here's manu raja in the high stakes senate race i'm. >> concerned about all of us running democrats in michigan are running the gauntlet as the gop wu's blue collar voters, the war in gaza splits the democratic coalition and the economy drives voter anxiety. >> how nervous are you about november i'm very nervous. so
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as she battles former gop congressman mike rogers for a key senate seat. congresswoman elissa slotkin is sounding the alarms. >> michigan, we know what happened in 2016 when democrats took michigan for granted, and we went the wrong direction. michigan could determine control of the house and senate mit, as slotkin and rogers are in a dead heat, let's elect donald j. trump, even as both candidates align themselves at the top of their tickets, when the vice president comes, you go slotkin is trying to show some separation despite backing the biden/harris agenda. >> i'm not immediately saying rara. i'm on board. i can have those conversations with kamala harris when we disagree. mike rogers can't disagree with donald trump. >> rogers, who served in the house for 15 years, had been at trump critic particularly after the 2020 election and january 6, i think we lost the georgia to republican senate seats because of donald trump and his
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chaotic leadership style. i think yesterday broke the spell that so many people had about donald trump clearly, his actions led to that while you're right, you had responsibility for this? >> you even said that he was clearly responsible for the acts of january 6. do you stand by any of them? >> i didn't say he was clearly responsible, but here's the thing. >> but do you stay criticism that you had even donald trump said, i was tough, but fair. >> i'll take that all day long. >> we're going to have differences amongst our party members all the time. >> but all my criticism is out there and not walking away from anything. what i am telling you is now we have choices, i guess the criticism you'd get you a evolved on trump for political expedience to align yourself because you need to win this state i think that's nonsense look at the issues. i wouldn't line up with kamala harris on anything nothing. >> but as trump said, this last
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week, our whole country will end up being like detroit if she's your president, rodgers had no complaints. >> are you okay with what he said you know what this is just i spent a lot of time in detroit and here's what the people of detroit have been telling me they are frustrated that they are not making improvements. >> $38,000 in median wage in detroit, $68,000 out state he said the country would look now what he's talking about, is their schools that are failing and the democrats every year keeps saying, i'm going to help you and there schools have deteriorated. democrats seizing on those remarks. >> what do i think of someone who comes to detroit and then dumps in detroit? it's the dumbest thing i've ever seen on the airwaves. rodgers basic democratic attacks it's over abortion. i'm scared that mike rogers will continue to take away my rights, but it's slotkin who has been on the defensive. slotkin voted to allow states to ban gasoline-powered vehicles that would crush michigan's economy. >> she's fielded relentless criticism for her votes to
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allow state limits on gas-powered vehicles prompting her to cut ads like this. >> i live on a dirt road, nowhere near a charging station so i don't own an electric car. >> another challenge, an arab american group is now urging the state's sizable arab population to sit out of the presidential and senate races israel, the voters in our community are very angry all as the gop group seeks to dampen democratic support by targeting arab americans with ads saying harrison slotkin will always have israel's back. >> manu raju, cnn warren, michigan when joining us now is michigan democratic congresswoman us senate candidate elissa slotkin, councilman. >> thanks very much for being with us. axios reported that you've worn in recent weeks that harris's numbers are underwater and michigan can you talk about what data you've seen and what's how you view things tonight, both in her race and in your race for democrats? >> yeah. thanks for having me. i mean, look, we've had so
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many polls just over the last few weeks. internal public polling and they all have the races in michigan exceptionally close some have me winning by a couple of points within the margin of error or some having her when within the margin of error, it just it's going to be a nailbiter are independent voters or swing voters? almost always help decide elections here in michigan. and it's going to be a nailbiter back in august, you said it was hard to overstate the amount of energy in michigan that have been raided by vice president harris is entrance into the race has her is there a way do you believe that her campaign should be trying to harness that energy or improve on oh i mean i think her coming to the top of the ticket was like splitting an electron electron and just like created its own energy. we saw voter registration and volunteerism go up precipitously. so i think they have seized upon that. i think now we're into traditional swing-state fight. we're in for those voters who maybe don't know her as well, who are just trying to figure out who they're going to vote for in michigan, we have a lot
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of split ticket voters, people who really vote the person over the party. so i think what you're seeing with her coming back and back and back, which is great it's her trying to make sure to get to every corner of our state that's what you need to do we know in michigan, if you sleep on us, we will go the other way. so i think she's trying to sort of show with her own presence how much she cares about the state. >> what is the ground game like in michigan for four democrats, four republicans? what is the voter turnout efforts what does that machine-like? >> yeah. i mean, the best thing that she did was the day after she floated up to the top of the ticket, she kept all of the biden folks, you know, the 200 and staff, 50 offices, just a plan that was sort of already in place she inherited that, made it her own, but kept all those people on. so we didn't miss a beat on the field. operation we've got hundreds of thousands of doors being knocked mailers are out, phone calls are happening. i mean, it is you come to michigan. it is hard to miss that we are in the
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last 20 days of a hypercompetitive election on the republican side, the republican party has basically collapsed in on itself, like a dying star in michigan. i mean, they've had so real trouble at the top of their party financial troubles. and so the only door-knocking i see from them are paid. volunteers, people who are not volunteers paid staff will go and knock doors so the ground game is there. but it's wall-to-wall attack ads detroit media market is the most expensive in the country right now because everyone wanting to pay to get ads on there, myself included it is the energy here is intense around these last 20 days. >> we're seeing record setting early voting in georgia. the last two days, double the first day, what it was in 2020, it's a different part of the country, obviously, but like michigan is a swing state, do you think those early numbers? bres signals something about voter interests slash enthusiasm? >> i hope so. we're actually seeing the same thing with people turning in their
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absentee ballots here in michigan, we haven't started early voting, but it's just been amazing how many more ballots have already been turned in, how many were requested. so we think that portends good voter turnout. and now it's just literally about that ground game and making sure everyone's sort of key voters really come out. >> cars from slotkin. thank you for your time thank you. coming up a new twist in the menendez brothers case that captured national attention more than three decades ago, they've been in prison ever since new evidence being weighed in the case. and what they're surviving family members have to say about what should happen to the brothers outing shingles doesn't care, but she words protects only shingles has proven over 90% effective shingles is a vaccine used to prevent shingles and adults 50 years and older, she looks does not protect everyone that is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose, an increased risk of dion bar racing drone was observed after getting chambers fainting can also happen. >> the most common side effects are pain, redness, and swelling
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next. want to check it out. it's over for patriots.com this source with kaitlan collins next prison, relatives of the menendez brothers held a press conference today calling for their release following new evidence in their parents murders, the brothers were sentenced to life without parole in 1996. >> they have long claim he suffered years of physical and sexual abuse from their father in a newly released, undated letter shared by the la county district attorney, erik
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menendez wrote, he's quote, been trying to avoid dad and adds, i never know when its going to happen and its driving me crazy every night i stay up thinking he might come in the brothers attorneys argued the letter corroborates the sexual abuse claims more on the case now, from cnn's jean cazares following lough menendez made the original 911 call wasn't a problem dead in their home. >> it was 1989. their sons lyle and erik menendez were 21 and 18 at the time law enforcement was working to track down who committed this horrific crime? when eric's therapists, mistress said she knew the truth, she overheard eric confessed to the crime, and all of it was on tape. >> i plan the perfect murder i carried out the perfect murder
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do you remember telling diane sawyer that? >> yes. >> law enforcement got the recorded therapy sessions and in march 1990, erik and lyle were taken into custody. three years later, it went to trial. >> i want to see him walk down the street, not in chains, not in shackles, and not with a deputy sheriff farah standing next to him. >> there are human beings and they had the right to live. >> the brothers admitted they killed their wealthy parents with shotguns one night as they were watching television at home run around suddenly them off where did you shoot her they alleged it was after years of physical and sexual abuse at the hands of their father now, do you recall the first time that he wasn't nice during the sex yes. >> yes.
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>> and you were 11? >> i was 11 the jury deadlocked during deliberations a mistrial was declared. we are still unable to the rich unanimous decisions. >> the retrial began in 1995. lyle chose to not testify this time, but eric did saying the brothers had been repeatedly raped by their father for years but erik and lyle were both convicted. >> both brothers guilty of murder in the first degree. >> there was no weeping of that was at all. the visible or audible. >> they each got two life sentences without the possibility of parole. and so far have served more than 30 years. >> we felt all along that it was a strong case and eventually they would be convicted of first-degree murder that felt satisfied that they were sentenced to life prison for the rest of their lives. >> appeals have gone nowhere, but now the defense asked that this verdict be looked at with
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a fresh set of eyes. >> i think we're at a point now where any reasonable person taking a look at this case believes they should be benching could harris because our joins us now. >> i mean, how likely is it though? there'll be released, but there's a possibility, you know, there's just this momentum that is building because kim kardashian went to the prison. >> the family wants them to be released. there hasn't been a netflix so recreation and there's just this momentum, however, it's a judge that determines if they will be released. this is a legal case, is not policy, right? it is a legal case. and the judge needs to look to see if in fact there is new evidence which would be a letter that has been discovered since the trial that erik wrote his cousin before he murdered his parents, saying my dad is doing things to me. and then there's also the fact of rehabilitation. the district attorney gascon is saying that they've been rehabilitated. there's a lawn california and
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you can tell that gascon, who was up for reelection is really going to look at this case faster, actually two life sentences for the judge to consider and for the killing. both of the father and the mother. >> this is such an important point. it's two life sentences and they are alleging that their father sexually assaulted them. the new evidence could go toward that conviction with their mother. they stopped and that they murdered her because they believed she knew what the father was doing to what about that conviction? it's all up to a judge jean casarez. >> thank you so much. appreciate it you saw dominic done in that piece, his his son griffin has actually written a remarkable book about growing up with his dad at and his mom i highly recommended the book is by griffin done. jean. thank you so much the source with kaitlan collins starts now seeing tomorrow >> the source tonight, vice
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