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harris is quote underwater in michigan polling and later, 35 years after killing their parents will lyle and erik menendez get a new chance to go free? i look at new evidence coming to light. good evening. thanks for being with us 20 days until the election and a busy night for us. a town hall with the former president erin later tonight on spanish language television and just a short time ago, vice president harris was interviewed on fox speaking with brett baer or the vice president was asked about a number of hot-button issues for conservative leaning voters, including the border. and was asked once again, what makes her different than joe biden? >> so you're not joe biden, you're not donald trump, but, nothing comes to mind that you would do differently. >> let me be very clear. my presidency will not be a continuation of joe biden's presidency and like every new president that comes in to office, i will bring my life experiences does my professional experiences and fresh and new ideas i represent a new generation of leadership the interview followed a

campaign rally in washington crossing pennsylvania. >> the vice president appearing with notable republicans who have endorsed her. one of those republicans joins us now from georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan is now a cnn political commentator also with this and mckayla car for me chief of staff to kevin mccarthy and cnn political commentator, jonah goldberg, co-founder and editor-in-chief of the dispatch. this interview is all about appealing to republican voters who may be disenchanted with president trump's. so we have three republicans with us, jeff, how important was it for the vice president to distance herself from president biden and do you think she did a good job? >> well, i think we first got to start off. she dove into the deep end of the pool with fox news and bret baier, and she did extremely well. she answered the questions on message and, you know, look, the republican she's trying to track down right now at this point in the campaign or not, the republican, she's going to flip from trump to herself. she just tried to flip those republicans that are, weren't going to we've show up and vote and just sit on the couch. i think they heard a message today that was consistent and they were able to figure out do they want somebody who's more liberal than they are, or

somebody who lies to them every day. and i think at the end of the day, more republicans that sit in the middle are going to, are going to flock toward somebody that they can legislatively work with that's more liberal but doesn't lie to them every time he opens his mouth. >> jonah, i want to get your overall impression of just how you think this did or did not appeal to any persuadable republicans? i do want to before that, just play this back-and-forth. they had over the biden-harris record on immigration and border security looking back, do you regret the decision to terminate remain in mexico at the beginning of your administration? >> at the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of taking the oath the first bill that we offered congress before we worked on infrastructure, before the inflation reduction act, before the chips and science act before any before the bipartisan safer communities act the first bill

practically within hours of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our immigration system. >> yes, ma'am. it was called a u.s.'s in chip act of 2000, exactly 21 essentially to citizenship? >> yes, ma'am. i've finished math, finished responding but you have to let me finish white house and the house and the senate. >> they didn't bring up bonding to the point you're raising. and i'd like to finish. >> yes, ma'am we recognized from day one that to the point of this being your first question. >> it is a priority for us as a nation and for the american people how do you think she dealt with that? >> and gentle overall yeah. >> i mean, look, i think she dealt with i think there's one of her shaking your moments. >> i think that that moment as well as the entire interview is really kind of a rorschach test for a lot of people. if you went in thinking, you know negatively about kamala harris, he came out feeling like your

priors were confirmed if you went in thinking positively about her, you thought your priors were confirmed if he didn't like bret baier on fox news, did, right? i think she could have had a better answer on the substance. >> at the same time. i'm not sure that the answer that she gave is going to move a single voter in and in any significant regard, it sounded like she knew what she was talking about, the people who don't pay close attention this are not deeply bought into it and it sounded like she didn't two people who are on the other side of the argument. i think the dueling interruptions stuff probably helped her because i mean, i know shocks you, anderson, but a lot of normal voters don't like the media these days and it's not just like the mainstream liberal media. it's the media and politicians pushing back and not taking gf from reporters, even brett baer, who i thought was in his rights asking the question, probably plays well

for her. it plays tough. it probably plays well to the voters that are gettable for. so i think i understand what we're talking talking about it. i don't think that necessarily three days from now. i mean, if you look on twitter, you would think the campaigns over for either trumper or harris. and i think those reactions are all ridiculous. >> mikayla, how do you think she did? i mean, do you think this interview could win over some nikki haley voters on the margins? >> so it's interesting, i don't think that when you're looking at who she was trying to reach here, right? the voters who are die-hard republicans, she wasn't trying to go to them. she was trying to see if there was anybody in the middle worthy and able to still persuade. and what we see from the polls is that those people that are undecided, the 2% in some states, the 6% and other states that are honestly the undecided, they're undecided because they care about policies they want to hear more details and more specifics, specifically on what she's going to do about the border and immigration and the economy. and we didn't hear any specifics to jonah's point just now, it sounded like she knew what she was talking about. if you're not really paying attention, but her

inability, this as far into the game to say how she would differentiate herself from joe biden, which is the ultimate question when you're trying to be a change candidate, i think she ultimately did more harm than good by doing that interview jeff, i want to play the moment when trump's enemy from within remarks came up was watching well, he is the one who talks about an talking about the american people suggesting he would turn the american military on the american people. >> we ask that question to the former president today, harris faulkner had a town hall and this is how he responded i heard about that. >> they do is saying i was like threatening i'm not threatening anybody. they're the ones doing the threatening. they do phony investigations i've been investigated more than alphonse capone. he was the greatest know it's true. we don't think it's called weaponization of government it's terrible i'm

sorry. >> and with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the american people, that's not what you just showed where he was asked about that. that's not what you just showed in all fairness question that we asked him. he didn't show that. and here's the bottom line. he has repeated it many times. >> i mean bret baier did not actually showed the clip where you actually does talk about the enemy within. so it was interesting choice that they made in that advice, prison was correct. i mean, harris faulkner played for trump that clip of his enemy within claire's wagner actually played that clip for the former president. then asked him, mr. president, kamala harris parsons said, you sounded on hinge and unchecked power is in our future. what do you say about that? and trump actually doubled down on this. so let's within, and they're very dangerous. they're marxists and communists and fascists. and the sick. i use a guy like

adam schiff because they made up the russia, russia, russia hoax. if you have a smart president that they could all be handled. the more difficult that pelosi's, these people, this so sick again, interesting choice by fox not to actually play that, that part of the answer, but cnn is also reporting that fox news did not disclose that the female audience that selected for was billed as an all women town hall was packed with local trump republican supporters. >> but i'm wondering what you make of how harris handled herself in that moment, jeff well, first of all, that's just classic donald trump. i mean, just say something absolutely unhinged and then try to back away from it as needed. but look, i mean, is he talking about a governor that maybe doesn't go his way, does is he talking about a witness who testifies against him? is he talking about a legislator who voted against his agenda? is he talking about a lieutenant governor that doesn't call a special session to usurp democracy. i mean, this is what he's referring to and to me,

it's just it's unimaginable to think that we're even in this point, but we are, and we've got to fight hard down the finish line to get kamala harris into the white house, not because i agree with their policies, but because she's the best next step for america erica, i've got to spend a bunch of time around kamala harris today. i got to have private a private meeting with her. i got to listen to somebody talk to a bunch of democrat or republicans, and be able to have a real conversation about consensus. i was able to thank her for making it easier for people like me. she's doing the fundraising. she's performing well in debates she's answering the question. she's doing the interviews. this this is this is unhinged from donald trump and we cannot let him have another hall pass to destroy this country. he's already destroyed the party. let's not give a chance to destroy the country. >> everybody stay with us. we're gonna have more on this coming up. we'll show you more of the vice president's interview. also speak with a congresswoman now a senate candidate in michigan reportedly warning that harris is, in her words, underwater in her campaign's polling. elisa, alyssa slotkin joins us ahead

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you still in support of using taxpayer dollars to help prison inmates are detained illegal aliens to transition to another gender. >> i will follow the law and it's a law that donald trump actually followed you're probably familiar with now it's a public report that under donald trump's administration these surgeries were available to on a medical necessity basis to people in the federal prison system. and i think frankly that ad from the trump campaign is a little bit of like throwing you know, stones when you live in a glass house don't know. >> obviously this is a reference to comments she had made. >> i think when she was running back in 2019 or so, how effectively have trump and allies in the media leverage this issue of which is, i mean, it's an issue. it's not really front and center for issue except in this campaign against harris

effective if you talk to people in trump world, they think it's one of the most powerful messages you can't watch a lot of football games without seeing these ads. >> they think it's working on the way that all this talk about young hispanic and black men hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging, but migrating and some numbers to the away from harris. and they think this is one of the things that drives it because it's it's a culturally conservative message for that crowd do i think campaign the election is going to hinge on it, not really except for the fact we're talking about such tiny numbers and just to get back to an earlier point, i agree that they're only like 46% of undecided republican types in this election. but the real, the real mother load of votes for both campaigns is to get people who like trump or who like harris to choose between staying home and voting. and i think that that's what harris is trying really, really hard to shore

up. and so is trump and they're going to very different constituencies for that so again, i don't think because ad is going to add or this part of the interview is going to have that huge into effect. >> and the kayla, what else stood out to you in this interview? >> i think what i'm seeing more of is just a lack of authenticity we see it over and over again and to jonah's point from earlier, it's good that there's a lot of attempts to shore up different, different constituencies different little buckets where the polls are saying they're, they're not doing well, or that they think they can get a little bit more with with kamala harris, its men. she's having a hard time with men. and so now we're seeing that go to fox news at sea. men watch fox news. we have enough trouble with african american men. go on charlamagne, tha god, let's see if we can get some people there. i think the problem is, is that what they want to know is where she he stands and even in that most recent clip, she didn't answer the question. she didn't tell you what she thinks she didn't tell you. it's all about i'm not donald trump. and that will get you so far. but i don't know if we're at the ceiling of that. and i also don't know if the undecideds are going to be

convinced on never substantively answering a question, jeff, i mean, do you do you believe that i mean, do you believe that it's not enough that there's not enough specifics look i think the folks that are still persuadable, the 10% in the middle and is probably much even tighter than that. >> just want an adult in the room. they want somebody that shows up to work to actually work and not to pander and not to, not to play not to try to self and deer themselves. kamala harris, even in the red baron we're, she showed up as an adult. right? we talked about all these. gotcha moments and these fringe issues that are small fractions. i mean, look, this, whether or not ukraine is a free and sovereign nation is on the ballot in november. whether or not nato and western europe remains free and unchallenged by vladimir putin is on the ballot in november, whether or not american kids have to pay for thousand dollars more because donald trump and vance 2,000% taxes on foreign tariffs. i mean, that's on the ballot. that that to me is where the

persuadable group is going to sit there and say, you know what, i've got a choice to make. i can either sit here and let the same thing play out with donald trump again, chaos and confusion well, i can make the bold crazy move of voting for a democrat for the first time and still be a republican. i just voted for kamala harris. that's it. >> jonah, do you see a double-standard? i mean, that donald trump doesn't answer a question. he answers the question he wants to be asked. he rambles, he has no specifics on anything and never really has people talked about kamala harris's appearance a lot. don't trump these days is a different shade. every day with a weird line down because he doesn't bother to put whatever he's putting on his face i'd like to make it that color there. we're looking at right now fully consistent is there a double standard here it's, it's not even a double-standard. >> there's one standard for donald trump, and it's

maddening. he lies constantly. he says things that are outrageous, and then he takes a fence at people who often for mild criticism of him and that's because he comes from the world of celebrity. the logic of celebrity applies to him. everyone else is susceptible to logical politics and it's why we unfair and disruptive to the system. but it's also baked in and i wish i knew how to deal with it, but i think it's just part of the rep. political reality. >> jonah goldberg, if duncan mkela car. thank you, sir. so much. appreciate it coming up next, the former president dodges responsibility for his lie about haitians in ohio. yet again, eating pets, then amplifies those same lines before election day. >> vice president harris bases voters and takes the pressing questions lie. anderson cooper moderates a cnn presidential town hall, kamala harris next wednesday at nine eastern on cnn gum problems could be the start of a domino effect. >> periodontics active gum repair, breath freshener

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his supporters, which fox did not disclose the event he declared himself the quote, father of ivf claim the real father of it, robert edwards, who was awarded the 2010 nobel prize in medicine for his accomplishment might take issue with worries still alive. he also doubled down, as you mentioned on his description of political opponents as the enemy within. and we'll talk about all that shortly. first though, keeping them honest, how more than a month after it was initially debunked, he has just doubled down on his lie about haitian immigrants in springfield, ohio in springfield they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. >> they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there. >> so that was september 10. it was a lie. the foreign president had reason to know it was when he said it, his running mate's campaign had been told her it was alive the day before had a call from one of vance's staffers and asked, hey, are are the rumors true or pets being taken and eaten? >> by the immigrants in your

community? i said no. >> i said there's no substantiated evidence or proof that this is happening the baseless claim so no, it's not happening. >> and then to see that continue to be retweeted by vance himself. the next day. and then sitting there watching the presidential debate to see that that is the light that's being shared on our community even though we've, we've told them that it's not true, it's untrue that's that's difficult. >> there was a day before donald trump took the lie about springfield's haitian community national on the debate stage tonight, univision is going to be airing a taped town hall with the former president network really several clips, including this one it's not spend so respectfully, is, do you really believe that these people are eating the people's pets? thank you.

>> well, thank you very much. this was just reported. i was i was just saying what was reported. that's been reported and eating other things too, that then i supposed to be. but this is all i do is report. i have not i was there. i'm going to be there and we're going to take a look and i'll give you a full report. what i do, but that's been in the newspapers and reported pretty broadly. >> so obviously what newspapers including the wall street journal, which he probably has, he reads maybe or has somebody reid has actually been heavily reporting. is that the story is false. it began when a springfield resident told police that she suspected her haitian neighbors of chopping up her cat after finding meat in the backyard as it happens, the cat, miss sassy, had been hiding in the basement and was found days later and as you saw from springfield city manager, a moment ago, he told the vance campaign a day before the debate at the pet eating stories were baseless, but the foreign president isn't repeating any of that. he's repeating a lie that he claims has been reported knowingly.

he's repeating this, but saying he's only repeating reports of what a lot of people are saying as he often puts it here, he is back in 2011 defending his false claim that president obama was not born in this country than doing what he did tonight, tacking a new falsehood on top the fact is a lot of people are troubled with this just like i am, but a lot believe 911 didn't the previous governor said that he saw the birth certificates. now they're saying, oh, it wasn't a birth certificate or certificate of white brights. there were supposed to be at birth certificate i don't think it exists. anderson. i hope it exists, but i don't think it exists. >> it wasn't the previous governor is the appreciate the health director for the previous governor who we've just interviewed on camera, says, yes, she has actually seen it, and it doesn't say it's fine. is set of spending millions of dollars on lawyers. >> he should say it's okay. okay. to release my bursitis, you've said this millions of dollars in lawyers he also claimed that he hired detectives and flew them to

hawaii to investigate this, which was also a lie. he did not that bit of the end claiming that president biden was spending millions of dollars on lawyers over this. that wasn't true either. but as you saw with the remark tonight, about haitians in springfield, quote, eating other things too. it is the way donald trump operates and has for years perspective now from former california republican lieutenant governor able maldonado, also legendary journalist and author carl bernstein and republican strategist and harris supporter and a varault so i mean i mean the foreign president did this with birtherism. he did this springfield's, this is clearly i mean this must, he must feel this works for him and it probably does work for him it probably does work for him because i think his followers just don't care. >> and it's a complete double standard. if kamala harris like this, if joe biden had lied like this? but. i've said he had dimension. they would have pulled him off the stage. donald trump, number one, never expressed his regret, never apologizes, never admits that he was wrong. so that's number

one. and number two, if his lips are moving, the likelihood is he is lying and he repeats the lie over and over and over again. he did it with january 6. he didn't we're the ones accepting the results of the election. what bigger lie is there then that when the other day i heard him lie about how he is responsible for lowering the price of insulin to $35, something that the biden administration dated is one of their top accomplishments just repeats and repeats it on a loop. and things that have been repeated enough. people will get tired of coral does work. >> i mean, repeating lies works. >> it works and it's the fundament of his campaign but what we know now see in these closing weeks is that this is a camp a campaign in which there is going to be a reaffirmation of regular political order in this country. or there's going to be a real triumph of fascism in which good well-meaning

republicans have allowed themselves to get carried down this path and go along with this rhetoric that is really blunt. absolutely. listen let's listen to general milley say of donald trump fascist to the core, the most dangerous man in america general milley is a pretty level guy let's listen to what donald trump is telling us. he is telling us what he's going to do really, by the way, the guy who stood next to trump when he marched out the white house, held up the bible was somebody handed him and milley regretted doing that because he was in uniform and he felt it was looking back, felt it was inappropriate, but it is extraordinary that the top the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff under trump is calling him a fascist and other senior military leaders. >> what we're really looking at here though, is the first seditious president of the united states now seeking reelection in which he has told all of us what he will do court

marshals for these generals adam schiff, a congressman he wants tried for treason. he's not kidding around. >> though able, you're shaking haired, you don't believe that no, i respectfully disagree with carl. >> i general milley speaking on general milley, he was like you just stated, he was standing him with him next to the bible and so forth. and while credit but a lot of these people so when they're working for him. he's a good guy. president trump's good when they're working for him donald trump hasn't changed and his whole life in 2016 when he ran, i don't think they're saying that he was good when they're working for him they've left and they're saying now, but they saw but what i'm saying is that they're only coming after president trump after they leave well, he's been or they'd been fired. one of the two and on, this so you believe highly decorated general milley, general kelly, who is the chief of staff, whose son died serving this country.

>> you believe that they are making stuff up? >> no. >> i'm not saying that yard. >> what i'm saying, they're only saying this after they've left. >> know what i'm saying, anderson, they worked for president trump. right. so they live in the white house. president trump was a good, good precedent. well, they're what they're not saying that. and then now all of a sudden saying he was they were cashing has checked. they were working for him. there were actually they're getting paid actually, general general milley was working the pentagon. he was the chairman of the joint chiefs. >> the pleasure of the president. i mean, at the end of the day he was working for president trump all of a sudden, either trump fired most people in the military serving the country and are have sworn to defend the constitution, not the president. >> but anderson. i'm talking you how i feel, how people all of us couldn't come after president trump lied on the document. >> but what do you how you feel it's not factually correct. so you're saying things would believe it's correct. >> i think a lot of people pleads craig, the polls say it. >> i mean the pulpit, but right. >> but, but what people feel in what polls show is not actually factually correct. you're

saying that they saying he was great to while they were serving under him. and then for some reason later on, they're saying it is not that's not factually. >> they went to work for him for a reason. obviously, at the pleasure of the president, they want to work to help america, to help president trump and all of a sudden they have a disagreement. they move on. and then he is a fascist well, i don't think we can know why they were sent him because i think a lot of military people would say they went to work for an administration because they felt they could perhaps temper that administrations there's intent. president trump, i mean, donald trump in 2016 when he ran you know, who he was, you know who he is. that's who he is. trump is not going to change ever you see a fascist, i mean, no, he's not a fascist. carl hi, fascistic things. i mean, those they safe as she's a new yorker, he's a fighter is a leader. >> new yorkers who fight, don't usually invoke fascism. does he say fascistic things day after day? i don't i asked

him, i don't see that but also able by the way, you're from california, the central perk, the kids, and there's the central park five, they were actually new yorkers. so the idea that donald trump is in new yorker, and this is what new yorkers say is just, i'm from california and i mean, we look at new york as, their fighters are strong, they tell it like it is. they'll say it out loud. there are very how macbook, i mean, again, we're just like there's 8 million people in the city and so the idea, anyway, long and often on the dock to it, you know he said it was reported. >> right? it was reported to him reliably report or something to him and he's got a hell of a big staff that can find out by saying that it's reported implies it's been reported by some reputable report as opposed to the owner of miss sassy saying, oh, i think this might have happened and then miss sassy actually turns out

to be in the basement, which i'm very grateful for, but again, he's doubling down on this, never gives up. >> president trump, never, that not worry you down, right? >> does that not worry you that the person who may lead a country never admits a mistake or never as willing to give up in your words, meaning i lived acknowledge what they're saying is i live for four years under president trump, america live for years and we didn't see, i mean, we live pretty darn good when you're safe. i mean, i can i ask you does not does not concern you that anybody democrat or republican, i think all politicians should admit mistakes and i'm admit mistakes. and i've tried to apologize for things shouldn't ever everybody do that. >> we're all different. we're all different every every mine is every minute is a different world. that's interesting to me about this is i mean, i get this from surrogates on all sides but i find it more with trump surrogates the refusal to just say what you actually believe, like oh, yeah, that's that's wrong. >> you shouldn't do that.

>> like it seems like you feel an obligation to just blanketly approve everything he does. >> is there anything he's done that concerns well, i mean, i'm here to talk about so what were disgusting the dog and the cat and so forth. and i i believe him when he says it was reported that this was going is nothing you could point to, just as kamala harris's acids or anything that would make her different than the biden administration. i mean, is there anything that you think trump? should not do or has done badly? >> well, anderson, i mean, when it comes to inflation, he lowered inflation when it comes to the border, he seal the border when it comes to crime, you lower crime while your answer. >> the answer the answer is no on the main issues know. alright. thank you. coming up and next i'm going to speak with a congresswoman for now senate candidate, reportedly warning that harris is quote, underwater in her campaign's polling in the state of michigan alyssa slotkin joins us. she's a locked in a close race with her republican opponent would be your guy

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senate race i'm concerned about all of us running democrats in michigan are running the gauntlet as the gop wu's blue-collar voters, the war in gaza splits the democratic coalition. >> and the economy he drives voter anxiety. how nervous are you about november? >> i'm very nervous. >> so a she battles former gop congressman mike rogers for a key senate seat congresswoman elissa slotkin is sounding the alarm michigan, we know what happened in 2016 when democrats took michigan for granted, and we went the wrong direction michigan could determine control of the house and senate as slotkin and rogers are in a dead heat, let's elect donald trump, even as both candidates align themselves at the top of their tickets, when vice president comes, you go, slotkin is trying to show some separation despite backing the biden/harris agenda. i'm not immediately saying rara, i'm on board. i can have those conversations with kamala

harris when we disagree mike rogers can't disagree with donald trump. >> rogers who served in the house for 15 years, had been at trump critic particularly after the 2020 election and january 6, i think we lost the georgia to republican senate seats because of donald trump and his chaotic leadership style. i think yesterday broken the spell that so many people had about donald trump clearly, his actions led to that while you're right, you had responsibility for this even said that he was clearly responsible for the acts of january 6, do you scam by any didn't say he was clearly responsible, but here's the thing but do you stand criticism that you had even donald trump said, i was tough, but fair i'll pick that all day long. >> we're going to have differences amongst our party members all the time. all my criticism is out there and not walking away from anything. what i am telling you is now we have choices i guess the

criticism you'd get is that you evolved on trump for political expediency to align yourself because you need to win this state i think that's nonsense look at the issues. i wouldn't line up with kamala harris on anything. >> nothing. >> but as trump said, this last week, our whole country will end up being like detroit if she's your president, rodgers had no complaints are you okay with what he said you know what this is? should i spent a lot of time in detroit and here's what the people of detroit have been telling me. they are frustrated that they are not making improvement treatments $38,000 in median wage in detroit $68,000 out state police said rise in the country would look now what he's talking about is there schools that are failing and the democrats every year keeps saying, i'm going to help you. and there schools have deteriorated democrats seizing on those remarks. >> what do i think of someone who comes to detroit and then dumps in detroit is the dumbest thing i've ever seen on the airwaves.

>> rodgers basic democratic attacks over abortion. >> i'm scared that mike rogers will continue to take away my rights, but it's slotkin who has been on the defensive. >> slotkin voted to allow states to ban gasoline powered vehicles that were crushed. michigan's economy. >> she's fielded relentless criticism for her votes to allow state limits on gas-powered vehicles prompting her to cut ads like this. >> i live on a dirt road, nowhere near a charging station so i don't own an electric car. >> another challenge, an arab american group is now urging the state's sizable arab population to sit out of the presidential and senate races israel, the voters in our community are very angry all as the gop group seeks to dampen democratic support by targeting arab americans with ads saying harrison slotkin will always have israel's back. >> manu raju, cnn, warren, michigan and

>> michigan that had been generated by vice president harris is entrance into the race has her is there a way do you believe that her campaign should be trying to harness that energy or improve on it? >> well, i mean, i think her coming to the top of the ticket was like splitting out electron electron it just created its

own energy. we saw voter registration and volunteerism go up precipitously. so i think they have seized upon that. i think now we're into traditional swing state fight. we're in for those voters who maybe don't know her as well, who are just trying to figure out who they're going to vote for in michigan, we have a lot of split ticket voters, people who really vote the person over the party. so i think what you're seeing with her coming back and back and back, which is great it's her trying to make sure to get to every corner of our state that's what you need to do. we know in michigan, if you sleep on us we will go the other way. so i think she's trying to sort of show with her own presence how much she cares about the state. >> what is the ground game like in michigan for, for democrats or republicans? what is the voter turnout efforts what does that machine like? >> yeah i mean the best thing that she did was the day after she floated up to the top of the ticket, she kept all of the biden folks, you know, the 200 and staff 50 offices, just a

plan that was sort of already in place she inherited that, made it her own, but kept all those people on so we didn't miss a beat on the field. operation. >> so we've got hundreds of thousands of doors being knocked. >> mailers, or out phone calls are happening. i mean, it is you come to michigan. it is hard to miss that we are in the last 20 days of a hypercube dying star and michigan, i mean they've had a real trouble at the top of their party financial troubles. and so the only door knocking i see from them are paid volunteers, people who are not volunteers paid staff will go and knock doors so the ground game is there but it's wild wall attack ads detroit media market is the most expensive in the country right now because of everyone wanting to pay to get ads on there, myself included so it is the energy here is intense around these last 20 days, we're seeing record

setting early voting in georgia. >> the last two days, double the first day, what it was in 2020, it's a different part of the country obviously, but like michigan, it is a swing state. do you think those early numbers signals something about voter interests slash enthusiasm i hope so. >> we're actually seeing the same thing with people turning in their absentee ballots here in michigan, we haven't started early voting, but it's just been amazing how many more balance have already been turned in and how many were requested. >> so we think that portends good voter turnout and now it's just literally about that ground game and making sure everyone's sort of key voters really come out. >> cars from slotkin. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up a new twist in the menendez brothers case captured national attention more than three decades ago. they've been in prison ever since. new evidence being weighed in the case. and what they're surviving family members have to say about what should happen to the brothers sandwich. >> it's meet between bread. >> no, it's more like a taco. >> my weigh in on this debate.

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abuse claims more on the case now, from cnn's jean cazares following up a little now menendez made the original 911 call wasn't a problem dead in their home it was 1989. their sons, lyle and erik menendez were 21 and 18 at the time. law enforcement was working to track down who committed this horrific crime. when eric's therapists, mistress said she knew the truth she overheard eric confessed to the crime, and all of it was on tape. >> i plan the perfect murder. i carried out the perfect murder do you remember telling diane sawyer that yes. >> law enforcement got the recorded therapy sessions and in march 1990, erik and lyle were taken into custody.

>> three years later, it went to trial. >> i want to see him walk down the street, not in chains, not in shackles, and not with a deputy sheriff stand sitting next to him. >> there are human beings and they had the right to live. >> the brothers admitted they killed their wealthy parents with shotguns. one night as they were watching television at home, or in around it. >> so my mom where did you shoot her alleged it was after years of physical and sexual abuse at the hands of their father. >> now, do you recall the first time that he wasn't nice during the sex? >> yes. yes. >> and you were 11? >> i was 11 the jury deadlocked during deliberations, a mistrial was declared. we are still unable to reach unanimous

decisions the retrial began in 19 18, 95 lyle chose to not testify this time, but eric did, saying the brothers had been repeatedly raped by their father for years but eric and lyle were both convicted. both brothers guilty of murder in the first degree. >> there was no weeping of that was at all. the visible or audible. >> they each got two life sentences without the possibility of parole and so far have served more than 30 years. >> we felt all along that it was a strong case and eventually they would be convicted of first-degree murder. i felt satisfied they were sentenced to life prison for the rest of their lives appeals have gone nowhere, but now the defense asked that this verdict be looked at with a fresh set of eyes. i think we're at a point now where any reasonable person taking a look at this case believes they should be out engine could harm

because our its joins us now. i mean, how likely is it though? there'll be released, there's a possibility, you know, there's just this momentum that is building because kim kardashian went to the prison, the family wants them to be released. >> there hasn't been a netflix so recreation and there's just this momentum, however, it's a judge that determines if they will be released. this is a legal case, is not policy, right? it is a legal case. and the judge needs to look to see if in fact there is new evidence which would be a letter that has been discovered since the trial that erik wrote his cousin before he murdered his parents, saying my dad is doing thanks to me. and then there's also the fact of rehabilitation. the district attorney gascon is saying that they've been rehabilitated. there's a lawn california and you can tell that gascon, who is up for reelection is really going to look at this case faster. actually two life sentences for the judge to consider and for the killing. both of the father the mothers.

>> this is such an important point. it's two life sentences and they are alleging that their father sexually assaulted them. the new evidence could go toward that conviction with their mother. they said that they murdered her because they believed she knew what the father was doing to what about that conviction? it's all up to a judge, i jean casarez. >> thanks so much. the news continues right here on cnn news, vice president kamala harris, defiant just moments ago, taking fox news had on calling trump unstable also breaking polls, just closing in georgia and guess what, another day of record turnout among early voters. >> so what is behind all this excitement that is shocking georgia officials? this is trouncing their expectations we're live on the ground. and he was at the capitol on january 6. the filmmaker embedded with the proud boys. now he's warning that it all is about to happen again. let's go outfront and good even