line across it's the blue wall. these states are incredibly margin of error racist. that's why both candidates will be spending a lot of time here for the next three weeks there it's certainly certainly what the polls show razor thin anxiety, so high. >> thanks for joining us. the source starts now tonight, vice president harris comes out swinging and a combative interruption field throw down on fox. harris was pushed and pushed right back, including a moment about donald trump. it seemed set her off. >> pete buttigieg is here with his take and jd vance finally answer what he would not answer for weeks. >> know he says, donald trump did not lose who's the 2020 election at least not in his words an inside source will join me this hour. what he knows about the battle for the police, they couldn't do decide this entire i are election pennsylvania senator john fetterman is here. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is

the source election. vice president kamala harris went where she has never gone before and frankly, where no democratic nominee has gone in quite some time on fox the vice president campaigning for those few persuadable conservative voters. in an interview that was contentious right from the jump, fox's bret baier question, the vice president on everything from immigration to trans rights to how she'd be different than president biden. she was interrupted several times as she was answering those questions. and there were tense exchanges just throughout this entire interview. but it was this moment maybe when she was asked about trump's supporters, that things got incredibly heated why if he's as bad as you say, that half of this country is now supporting this person who could be the 47th president, united states it's

why is that happening? this is a limb election for president of the united states. it's not supposed to be easy. >> i know, but it's not supposed to be it is not supposed to be misguided. the 50% stupid and what did i would never say that about the american people. and in fact, if you listen to donald trump, if you want hochstein, eve, his rallies, he's the one who tends to demean and belittle and diminish the american people. he is the one who talks about an enemy within with within an enemy within. talking about the american people, suggesting he would turn the american military on the american people well, we asked that question to the former president today, harris faulkner had a town hall and this is how he responded i heard about that. >> they were saying i was like threatening i'm not threatening anybody they're the ones doing the threatening. they do phony investigations i've been investigated more than alphonse capone. he was the greatest know it's true we

don't think it's called weaponization of government is terrible. >> so i'm sorry. and with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the american people that's not what you just showed. >> he was asked about that. >> that's not what you just showed in all fairness question that we asked her you didn't show that. >> and here's the bottom line. he has repeated it many times and you and i both know that you and i both know that he has talked about turning the eric and military on the american people. he has talked about going after people who are engaged in a peaceful protest he has been talked about locking people up because they disagree with him. this is a democracy raisi, in a democracy the president of the united states in the united states of america should be willing to be able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people up for doing it i want

you to see for yourself regarding what harris is saying there about the clip that they played of trump, fox chose to air only trump's defense of his threats to use the military against united states citizens. but this is what trump actually originally had to say. >> i think the bigger problem are the people from within. we have some very bad people. we have some sick people, radical left, lunatics, and i think they are it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by national guard or if really necessary by the military i lead source tonight is pete buttigieg. here, i should note in his personal capacity as a surrogate for the harris campaign. thank you so much for being here. i mean, you introduce yourself at the democratic national convention by saying, i'm people to judge, you might recognize me from fox news. you're a frequent guest on that network. what were your thoughts on this interview tonight it was really

impressive on her part. >> she was tough, smart focus discipline, the same qualities that made her a very effective prosecutor. and i think are going to make her a very effective president and she did it it in territory that's obviously not ideologically friendly. i think she'd have many reasons to think twice about whether she was going to get fair treatment on fox news. but even as they were interrupting her, preventing her from speaking she got her point across and she called out things like that moment, that exchange that we just saw where they attempted to sides step the shocking fact of someone wanting to be president calling americans the enemy from within. i think it's especially appropriate actually, for her to do that on fox because when i think about conservatives, republicans that i know one of the things that's most that i'm most sympathetic to about what's since conservatives care about is a passion for liberty and a real concern about making sure that liberty is protected. now disagree with a lot of republican friends who

think that that goes so far that enforcing the clean water act isn't something we should do because it just might impinge on liberty. but these are the exact folks who need to be reminded about the implications for our freedom loving country. if the next president, united states, is somebody who has flirted with more than flirted with, talked about turning the military on american citizens who he disagrees with politically. i think there are a lot of folks at home maybe concerned urban of republicans or independents who lean right who are thinking to themselves. if you've got a friend or coworker or a daughter who is more politically to the left than you are? is she going to be safe in a country where the president of the united states calls for the enemy well, i mean, in that interview, as she was making that argument about what trump has said about the military, the national guard, and using it against us

citizens. >> i mean, when you see that moment there and how she responded about the clip that was played she's been in politics for a long time. but given that you have such experience with going on fox, i mean, did you give for any advice about this interview beforehand? >> i wasn't involved in her interview prep. what i will say is that once a principle i tried to remember that i thought she demonstrated is making sure not to allow them to kind of change the subject or the framing of the question at hand, right? the whole topic there was the fact that a candidate for president and a former us president describe the american people, the ones he disagreed with as the enemy. and it's really important not to allow some sidestepping of that so she did that. she also made sure to continue to get her point across even when she was being repeatedly interrupted as somebody who has a lot of batting practice myself on that network forgot really proud of how she represented her views, her values and this ticket in front

of a conservative audience, something i might add but that is a show of strength. that is the exact opposite of the weakness that donald trump has demonstrated by pulling out of going even on cnbc which is hardly liberal bastion. or 60 minutes where it's customary for both candidates to go on he's not prepared to go in front of a skeptical, let alone unfriendly audience. she demonstrated the opposite. remember, this is in keeping with her continued outreach we conservatives look at difference between her making clear that she would include republicans in her calf campaigning with so many republicans, principled republicans, who are for her versus him referring to democrats as the enemy. >> yeah, there was one point in this interview where she was questioned about a position that she touted on the campaign trail in 2019 that was recently highlighted by by cnn's kfile. i should note, it's her support for taxpayer-funded gender transition surgeries for prison inmates. and here's

what she had to say about that tonight. >> are you still in support of using taxpayer dollars to help prison inmates are detained illegal aliens to transition to another gender. >> i will follow the law and it's a law that donald trump actually followed the trump aides say that he never advocated for that prison policy and no gender transition surgeries. responsible for what happened. >> minister yeah. >> no surgeries happened in this pregnant would you advocate for using taxpayer dollars for gender reassignment? >> follow the law just as you have trump would say, he did. >> she. didn't say what her position is on that or whether or not it's changed, said she would continue to follow all pointing out with the bureau of prisons, did what when donald trump was when he was in office. but but from your view, do you think that she should have said what a harris administration will do on this front? >> i think she was wise to make clear that this is something that is a matter of law. i think there was a court order

involved and that's why you saw the trump administration doing the same thing, but also, i think she's been very effective at not taking the bait on this. look, this is all the trump campaign wants to talk about, even though if you talk to the next hundred people you see on the street or in your life, about the biggest things affecting their personal lives. the biggest things are going to be at stake in this election that will shape whether the next year's go well for them, like whether the goods and products we buy our affordable in the face of his proposed tariffs, whether their job is secure in the face of him proposing to eliminate some of the policies that are bringing back manufacturing and the midwest. whether there going to have personal freedoms in the face of the fact that every woman in america had the right to choose before donald trump. yeah, president has lost its since he was president, right? want to talk about that. so they want to talk about this. and i think she very effectively put this issue in its place, which is an issue

affecting a tiny number of people that has already been laid out by the law, a law that both administrations have complied with and kid pack to the issues that most americans actually feel are affecting their everyday life. >> well, and that's a good point that when you look at what voters care about and you asked it is not something that is at the top. we're talking economy immigration democracy, abortion. those are the things that we've constantly seen consistently at the top. but this is something that the trump campaign is highlighting. the quote where she is on camera talking about it, and her position and saying yes, she does believe this is something that should be offered the running this in critical states during football games clearly, it's not just what, what all voters saying. it's that's tiny slice of moderate voters that she is trying to win over. do you think it could have impact with them? certainly trying to make this election about anything but the issues that are affecting people's lives the most, right? he doesn't want to explain the fact that his tariffs are going to add thousands of dollars to the

cost for a typical family. he doesn't want to defend the fact that he eliminated the right to choose that again, every woman america had a right, a national right to choose when he became president and every woman in america now lives without a national right to choose because he took it away from them, right? that's the last thing that they want to talk about. so they'll talk about anything, whether it is this, whether it is people allegedly eating cats or dogs or geese? or anything else that you can change the subject to in order to try to divert from that. this campaign. and in particular, the vice president have been very disciplined and very effective at seeking to deny them the chance to change the subject like that. >> yeah, we'll see obviously what the voters thing i do want to ask you, what we heard from senator jd vance today where he found eiland gave an answer on whether or not he thinks donald trump lost the election. i think unsurprisingly, he said no, trump did not. he said, quote by the words that he himself, that vance would use. it's a question he has dodged for several weeks now, what do you make of what he said

tonight saying? essentially denying that donald trump lost the election that donald trump did lose >> of course, donald trump lost and i think he knows that. i think he's lying. i also think it's a mistake politically because voters have a dim view of election deniers. and up until now now he's trying, he's tried to avoid officially becoming an election denier by dodging the question, answering the question with a question, doing anything he could, but give a straight answer now that he's given a straight answer, he jd vance is officially on the record as an election denier something that is shameful, but also something that certainly if we look at 20:22 and has pretty much anybody who is an election denier who is on the ballot in so many swing state statewide races, lost i think that's something that's a setback. now he probably has no choice because donald trump is probably demanded that he, that he lie and that he say that, but look, one of the most

profoundly important things in a democratic process is that when you lose an election, you say so, i mean, it's one of the most fundamental parts of how democracy works. fund to lose an election. i know what it's like to lose an election. but you do it should go without saying the fact that it didn't go without saying one, of the most disqualifying things that helps to explain why so many conservative republicans are not just sitting this one out, but campaigning for kamala harris, even though they disagree with her on a lot of policies, walz anticipate to see in my words, i would not it seemed a way to couch saying that he doesn't think donald trump lost the election, saying in the words that i would use, no, he didn't i mean, words are words, losses are losses, winds or winds. so i just that's i think the part that confused me the most of that answer joe biden won donald trump lost, and anybody who cannot bring themselves to say

that out loud just the way i as much as it pains me will say donald trump won and hillary clinton lost the election back in 2016 if you can't say that that is literally disqualifying for the vice presidency or the presidency. >> he buttigieg, thank you for your time tonight more from that contentious interview with vice president harris tonight, including what she now says. she would do differently than president biden. plus the crucial battleground that is pennsylvania. it is all we're talking about in the lead up to the election we're going to talk to the democratic senator from that commonwealth, john fetterman on his thoughts coming to cnn this fall pros and cons lists pro hosted by roy wood jr. row with amber ruffin, with michaelian black oh, okay. what are the cons we could run out the news by then. >> would that really happened to does i'm a star flipping houses i like that idea better

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hall, kamala harris, mixed wednesday at nine eastern on cnn tonight, that contentious interview on fox news, vice president harris was asked again, what would she do differently in her job if she is president elected president than president biden so you're not joe biden, you're not donald trump, but nothing comes to mind that you would do differently. let me be very clear. my presidency will not be a continuation of joe biden's present let's see, like every new president that comes in to office, i will bring my life experiences, my professional experiences, and fresh and new ideas. i represent a new generation of leadership my political sources are here tonight, the president and ceo of the national urban league, marc morial, cnn political commentator se cupp, and cnn's chief media analyst, brian stelter. >> brian, just not the twitter is real life ever, but will we it seemed like a rorschach test right from the beginning of how

people were going to see. did she crush it? did she blow it? what was the outcome of the interval enterprising? >> trump refused to debate kamala harris again. so harris did the next best thing. she booked a debate on fox news, and that's what this was tonight. she essentially walked into a trump campaign field office because anchor bret baier who is a, you know, a solid journalist, he is also incredibly sympathetic to trump because that's what his fans want. that's what his viewers one has viewers want him to represent the trump point of view. so it was almost as if you had a trump surrogate interviewing kamala harris and look adversarial interviews are a good thing we should move for them. we should want more of them. you know, you're so fantastic adversarial interviews where we challenge newsmaker than we get the answers out of them. but yes, this mozer war shock test, some people think bear was mansplaining other people think harris is filibustering. i think at the end of the day this is all about one word. the word tough. it showed that harris was tough. she went into the so-called fox dan and that's how harris his campaigns promoting it now, they're saying she went into the fox den and looked what

look what happened. >> well, i'm curious what you thought and how you viewed it and just for people who missed it to when i when i say it was a contentious interview, just just here's an example of what that sounded like. >> was a bill to fix our immigration system. >> yes, ma'am. it was called a us citizen citizenship act of 2000, exactly 21 and essentially, but i just yesterday i finished man finish just responding. and let me just finish. i'll get you the question. i promise you. >> i was beginning to answer. people that losers hamas has diminished and who does six for each other? i apologize i think a really fair person and there's an interview he did with trump where he is ruthless with trump and i would compare those two. >> i think she got a fair shake i think on substance she was light on style. she was great. i thought i thought like brian thought she looked tough and that was a moment that was

important for her to be able to show i'm tough enough for this. i can withstand the tough interview because that's been a knock on her. right. but where i'm focused on the undecided voters in the swing states. i don't think this moved them because they are still looking for real answers to real problems, real solutions. and i'm not sure that they got those specifics in this interview, but there's a real focus on immigration. >> the economy didn't come up until minute number 12, abortion never came up as economy is the top issue in every all seven swing states. >> but that's a great point that abortion didn't come up and the economy, because that is what the voters who are going to decide this election. that's what we've this totally st. pete buttigieg just point that her position on trans surgeries for transgender people is not going to change you know, what the election, whether polling is 50, 48,

>> what i see is very few undecided voters therefore, what you have is a turnout election. and some of these interviews are designed to stoke to promote, to energize those people who are going to vote for you. i've been looking at polling for, for 30 years and typically, you see eight to ten undecided. this close to an election. this is an america where most people have made up their minds it's just simple. >> maybe going to move a point here, maybe going to move a point there. >> but the fundamental thing in a place like pennsylvania in a place like georgia, in a place like north carolina, who get their vote out who gets it out strong. we know trump has been able to do that. we know in 2020 biden could in 2016 clinton couldn't so that's really the test for harris. >> does this help with that because it is the line of reaching out to them? those disaffected republicans. she did an event where republicans in pennsylvania right before

taping this interview. and also animating the base americans love the contact sport of american politics the waltz debate, which was i fell asleep respectfully, right? >> it was a good debate, but it devon energy, this electorate is not the electorate of 2000. this is an electorate that's opinionated. this is an electorate that's passionate. this is americans that want and have a high appetite for the context board of american politics. and that's what you saw the night on fox news. >> but i also think in the context of what we saw in those twin appearance it is her her interview tonight, donald trump did a town hall focused on women and women's top priorities with fox, but hadas gold reported tonight that that in that fox town hall, the audience was actually stacked with his supporters, which fox did not disclose its right, and that they even edited out parts where it was so blatant that the people who are asking question, we're already supporting donald trump. >> that's right. this is a

real contrast between how fox was treating entry and harris, but it's not surprising because fox is largely an extension of the trump campaign. that's why it's so remarkable that harris agreed to do the interview at all. and now i'm fighting myself thinking with less than 20 days to go, what else is she going to? do? trump has mostly stayed in a safe spaces like that fox town hall, but harris wants to go on joe rogan's podcast. she wants to be doing other interviews where she's taking risks, maybe that reflects the fact that she's more the underdog that's how her campaign talks. they say they're the underdogs, right guys nailed one thing she's got to demonstrate that she's tough and in that is that partly because she's a woman, there's a gender issue. yes, there's a gender bias issue. >> and the question is, can she stand up to putin? can she deal with the hardball politics of negotiating in the congress that question is a question that lingers underneath and i think just like trump's entire campaign is about, i'm the tough guy. yeah. >> and i will note trump did the interview with economic

club of chicago yesterday that had was he was pressed on that, but se what's your view on how she's navigating this as well? >> of course, there is some sexism that just lingers and in every election, and we've seen some of that, but i don't actually think she needs to prove she's tough in that sense. i think what she needed to prove was that she can withstand these lines of inquiry because she's been so press averse to until now and she's she's doing a lot more press i think the criticism was that she was too scared. she didn't have the answers. she couldn't talk in a way that made sense to people are really and i think she's proving that wrong but that was i think what people needed to see and what what was accomplished in this fox interview more than anything else? yeah. >> great to have you on. thank you for your takes on that. quite an interview to watch up next, we're going to talk about another part of that interview that was notable. her shifting views on immigration something that she was

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even before what's blitz all be honest about that. i have no pride in saying that this is a perfect immigration system. i've been clear. i think we all are that it needs to be fixed immigration, of course, remains one of the top issues and the place that may decide this election. >> that's the commonwealth of pennsylvania. i wanted to straight to the source with the democratic senator from pennsylvania, john fetterman, senator. thank you for being here earlier in the interview as she was talking about providing services for transgender people in the sprawling federal prison system. harris was arguing that trump had a similar policy and she said at one point, you've got to take responsibility for what happened in your administration. does the same apply to her though when she's being questioned about the border over the last three-and-a-half years situation. if you want to talk about the border, i've been very clear that the border is an issue and i don't know why it would be controversial for

democrats to say we needed have a secure border but we also trump has absolutely tanked. he tanked and he called for the republicans to tank the bipartisan border deal. and i voted for that and the republicans refused to do that. and that was a great bill. and the republicans, he even agree old it shouldn't be agreed that that was a great deal. and now trump said this is far too more valuable in the election and he has weaponized that and how he's going to talk about that. the border needed to be secure and i've been very clear, agree with that. and that that bill was tanked by trump yeah i just read the other day that border crossings are at their lowest point since since biden took office obviously he signed those executive orders restricting asylum and whatnot. >> once that bill was tanked, but i think for skeptical voters that you're talking to in the commonwealth of pennsylvania is an answer like

that. when they say okay, well, what about before february you wary and in the years before that, is that enough for them when you talk to them what i mean, let's be honest as well to the border is an issue for trump in the polling reflects on that as well. of course. >> but but if anyone else who's going to be honest as well to the democrats, work with the republicans to develop a plan and a bill to make our border more secure. and then we had that and trunk a trisomy trump asked us to tank that and that's exactly what happened. and trump is going to continue to use that and weaponize that against the democrats in this election. >> what is the latest that you're hearing from voters on the ground? because we just talk all pennsylvania every single night here on this show is where we're gonna be talking about leading up until three weeks from now when this election actually happens what is the number one thing that you're hearing that stands out to you this close? >> i don't think there's a

specific kind of issues. it's not a nuanced kind of a thing. it's going to be really, really close in pennsylvania as i've been saying, the same thing since 2016. i wish i had something new to say about it. it's going to be incredibly close and pennsylvania and it's going to be very competitive. there's a lot of energy on the grid brown for trump's support or supporters. but it's matched by harris. she has incredible energy as well to both sides are committed to make showing up and that's why it's going to be very close. and there'll be no different than what we had in 2016, 2020, and now we'll have that in 24 well, in one difference in 2024 is we're gonna be seeing elon musk out on the campaign trail on donald trump's behalf, you said something recently to chris dire walt, that he appeals to demographics that your party has struggled with. >> how much impact do you think he could have on this race? >> oh, no, that's that's significant i've always said that it is significant in the business. a lot of surrogates

rarely doesn't count for much, but but musk, it's undeniable that he's successful. he is the world's richest man and he's been involved in a lot of important things like spacex or ai those things. and he has, he has a brand and that's, that's attractive to a demographic that we need to have to win in pennsylvania and it's not even about his checkbook again, i think him being an active surrogate, i think the new york times described him as effectively living in pennsylvania anya and he's going to be showing up and going around it. that's going to be that's going to be mattered and the democrats, for us to make front of him for jumping up and down or that things we would do that are parallel it's significant so, you think people, members of your party are underestimating the influence he could have well, i hope not i hope not.

>> that's why i'm talking about it. it's like, a win when he showed up at the russell bill building for the convention last early here, i mean, eye witnessed the senators who he showed up. i got to have my three minutes kind of a thing so i mean, he has a lot of appeal for people. a lot of independently my voters in pennsylvania. and as far as surrogate, that's definitely a significant thing for trump having a major issue, obviously in this election that we've talked about is abortion. and also access to ivf after what happened to my home state with a ruling from the state supreme court that that in imperiled access to trump in an interview in a town hall that was focused on women's issue declared himself the father of ivf of the spokesperson of his was later asked about it and said it was a joke that he made in jest when he was enthusiastically answering a question about ivf, what was your reaction to that

moment? oh, i mean, he he he has been no cure and for a while now he's saying is a logical things and now he made of the whole john deere kind of story. and now remember, it wasn't a couple of days where he was having a dj session, been playing music and saying, i don't want to have questions and he saying increasingly bizarre our things and i can't imagine why the media is and holding them more accountable on those things. i mean, we're talking about the border, we're talking about all these other issues when we can't talk about the way trump has slipped. and now he is saying increasingly more incoherent things that bizarre things. and now he hasn't had a tradition janelle political speech, it's just bizarre ranting it's really difficult to even follow you on the john deere thing. >> what you're referencing for people who are watching who may not be familiar, trump said yesterday that after john deere was going to move some of its manufacturing out of the

country, i believe to mexico that after he had publicly threatened to put a 200% tariff on their products that they were shipping back into the u.s if they did so, he claimed that they change their mind, they drop their plans. daniel dale looked into that, john deere said no, they have not made any change to their manufacturing plants but but i mean voters here, maybe that first part and don't see the fact check. i mean, that's something that would matter to people in pennsylvania. so how do you counter that? what do you do about that? >> i don't i don't think we're talking about john deere, but what does that mean? it's one of two things one, he was actually lying and he knew he was lying or he just imagine that he actually does these kinds of things because he slipped so badly i mean, it doesn't really matter. but that doesn't necessarily matter because we're for less than three weeks out. and now it's going to be really close and it's really committing for us as democrats where i am, i'm going across pennsylvania and a lot of the red rooms that allowed the red counties to

make the argument why i can't imagine why we would want those next four years with trump, but why i believe harris is going to prevail, but it is going to be incredibly close on that and i wish i had something more comforting for anybody that's watching to think that there's going to be a breakout kind of a situation. i would expect everybody that it's going to be really, really close and to anyone anyone that's going to withhold their votes or to not support harris if you vote for a three-way sue mi a three party, and throw away your vote like that. you're supporting trump by default as well senator john fetterman, thank you for your time tonight thank you. >> up next, you've seen liz cheney out endorsing one democrat and vice president harris while she's just endorsed two more on top up of that harry enten is here to explain what it all means

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bit of the hail mary at this particular hour. it's a district that i think donald trump will do quite well in the fall. likely a republican, according to cook political report. but pennsylvania seven toss-up race, a toss-up race in the philadelphia suburbs in northern philadelphia suburbs. so it's gonna be interesting to see if her endorsement could potentially mean anything, even if it means a little something in new york probably doesn't change that race, but any helps theirs. and while can get in the philadelphia suburbs, i'm sure she'll take do we have a sense of why she's doing this now? >> why she doing this now, why i think she wants to support people that she feels quote, unquote, support democracy, right? that's something that she said when she endorsed susan wild. we obviously know john avalon is somebody who has been very anti-trump part of the recently ran that campaign or decided to leave cnn and run in that campaign somebody who of course, has called out trump on what he believes is trump trying to essentially take democracy away from americans. so i think that's what's going on here, right? she was somebody who obviously very anti-trump did not like what he did on january 6, and is somebody who is endorsing candidates who i think she

feels can quote unquote, defend democracy. >> well, the susan wild race is really interesting. i mean, you saw likely republican for the new york race between avlon and lalota, but the susan wild wildberries. we just talked to pit federal metabolic, the importance of pennsylvania, the commonwealth. i mean, her district itself is also very bellwether in terms of what that's going to look like. and obviously makes a huge difference regardless of which presidential candidate wins, which parties in control of the house absolutely. >> you know, if there is one county i'm looking at and southeast pennsylvania understand who is going to win, not just the presidency, but when the house, it's northampton county, right? and that is a county that the seventh district is in the seventh district. and the bottom line is this. if democrats want to take back control of the house of representatives they have to hold on to pennsylvania seven in districts like it. if they go in and win in new york one right? i think they're going to head for an extremely good night, but the district's in the suburbs. in the suburbs of new york, in the suburbs philadelphia in the suburbs of los angeles, san diego, san

francisco those are the types of places democrats need to do well in pennsylvania, seven is definitely one of those. >> yeah, we'll be watching all those new york races. got gave republicans ailes of course. >> you know what? i love nothing more than a good complex competitive race in my backyard, kaitlan, same thanks so much. also, i should note tonight, after more than 30 years behind bars, there's new evidence that is being weighed tonight for the moment, menendez brothers, both convicted for murdering their parents we heard from two dozen of their family members today saying they believe they should be released, will tell you that next >> i want to ask you about january 6, 2021. >> the steps you're talking about. why have you done them already, would more reporters on the ground what did you hear appeal to young voters. >> trump could have said, yes, he would veto a national abortion and the best political team in the business, what's the biggest takeaway from this

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kamala harris, next wednesday at nine eastern on cnn phase and breaking news for you this hour as we are now learning that the u.s. >> has carried out a round of strikes in yemen against the iran-backed houthis with b2 bombers cnn's pentagon correspondent, oren liebermann is joining us live, or in obviously the b2 bombers, one in and of itself is notable. i think the other question people are going to have it is why they're doing this now and what we're hearing from us officials tonight, we haven't been given a specific reason on whether there was one incident that led to these strikes here. but again, we've seen the u.s. carry out a series of strikes smaller, near-daily strikes against houthi missiles and drones. and then occasionally, law our jurors strikes generally, following large houthi attacks on commercial vessels are on us navy ships

and we have certainly seen plenty of those over the course of the past weeks and months. the u.s. carrying out these strikes tonight with multiple b2 stealth bombers. and that's noteworthy because these can carry far heavier payloads and far greater bomb load there's also more heavy weaponry than the fighter aircraft that usually carry out these sorts of strikes. the targets according to several defense officials, houthi weapons storage facilities, including underground facilities, and those generally are harder to hit, perhaps that's the reason we're seeing the heavier bombers being used in these strikes, but that is certainly noteworthy here. the u.s. this has made clear that they don't want to see a spreading of the war. and yet kaitlan, they have also made clear that the houthi attacks are unacceptable in the u.s. will occasionally act and act with force to stop them when they can yeah. a notable decision, especially coming at a time of just such tension happening in the middle east, oren liebermann live from the pentagon. thank you. for that report. also tonight on the west coast, we're saying pressure. that is growing on the district attorney in los

angeles to reconsider the murder convictions of erik and lyle menendez has more than two dozen of their family members, their extended family. i should note that came out and gathered as you can see here, demanding their released from prison after more than 30 years. for the murder of their parents. the family is citing new evidence in the case is the reason why the defense attorneys argued that it's corroborating what we heard previously from the brothers that they were acting in self-defense after suffering years of physical and sexual abuse from their father as details of lyle and erik abuse came to light, it became clear that their actions while tragic we're the desperate response of two boys trying to survive the unspeakable, cruel of their father, their father's abuse was dismissed they're trauma ignored and their truth mocked by millions. they have suffered enough i asked the district

attorney's to take to account. >> the whole truth and nothing but the truth my legal sources tonight, elie honig, cnn's senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, elie, how unusual is it to see that many members of someone's family in a situation where they're convicted for the murder of their parents coming out and saying this is wrong, they should be released. >> well, it's an extraordinary circumstance in every case because these are the family members, not just of the defendants, but also of the victims. and i think the uncle just said something that's really important, right because you want to know what is the victim's family thing that's most of the relatives. >> there's still a few that are oppose letting the menendez brothers out early, but the vast majority, as we just saw, are in favor of it. and the thing that the uncle just said that really resonated with me is that people of my generation, gen x, more or less, we were misinformed and misunderstood what this case was really about at the time i was in high school and college it was a punchline. it was made fun of on saturday night live

and kohnen in and letterman. and the joke was, look at these spoiled rich kids from la who couldn't wait to get their hands on their parents money and so killed them and went on shopping spree. but wow, if you look into this, this was a case of horrific unspeakable sexual abuse, and that's really what the new evidence goes to. >> what happens here. i mean, what's the likelihood of something like this? >> it's going to be in the first instance up to the district attorney. so the district attorney has the power to say to the judge, i agree to a reset missing a court hearing on november 29, and the district attorney has been playing coy here, but i'm trying to read between the lines. it looks to me like the da may well go along with this and there's a lot of pressure on him. i mean, this is a trend on tiktok. the car dash cam kardashian is behind this. now, the netflix documentary is being seen by tens of millions of people for family members. that's an incredibly powerful shelling. so wouldn't shock me if the da, greys and asks them to be released, it's a good point because this is like something that is becoming more familiar in the light ex-con are people are getting refresher by watching your

documentary, by having conversations about it on social media. could that actually be something that helps drive the district attorney to say, okay, well, i'm here about this, not just from a press conference like this today, which was remarkable in and of itself, but also just the general public in the political sense. let's remember this da is up for re the election in a few weeks in november he's up and so i think he's probably trying to take the temperature. i tried to put myself back in that situation. i was a prosecutor for a long time i have to say i wouldn't be in favor of releasing them given all the circumstances, given what they went through, given this new evidence, they've been in prison for 34 years. my initial instinct was not to have sympathy for them. they shot their parents in cold blood. but your job as a prosecutor is to think about all the facts and to consider what is really just unnecessary. they've been in 34 years, had they'd been convicted in the lesser offense of what we call imperfect self-defense. they would have been out in 15 years. they would have been out for two decades. >> but what a jury have thought of seeing this evidence in the total picture yeah. >> so both brothers testified

at the first trial about this sexual abuse. you can see it on the documentary mean i will tell you, i did not realize that was part of the trial. i mean, it's horrifying to watch, but the da at the time said they're making it up. it's just their cover story. this new evidence letters from back at then, an accusation by another person that the father sexually abused them really corroborates and confirms what lyle and erik menendez testified too many years ago. yeah. well, it keep us updated. it's a fascinating interested in this, i think is fascinating. elie honig, we're interested what you're interested in. thank you so much for joining us. the news continues right here on cnn tonight. >> wednesday night lights. >> people are frankly exhausted a bret more than kamala harris dares to go, where democrats usually don't >> for a tally, sit down with fox plus parroting lies. donald trump says he was just repeating what others told him about haitian migrants. while