sexual abuse. you can see it on the documentary mean i will tell you, i did not realize that was part of the trial. i mean, it's horrifying to watch, but the da at the time said they're making it up. it's just their cover story. this new evidence letters from back at then, an accusation by another person that the father sexually abused them really corroborates and confirms what lyle and erik menendez testified too many years ago. yeah. well, it keep us updated. it's a fascinating interested in this, i think is fascinating. elie honig, we're interested what you're interested in. thank you so much for joining us. the news continues right here on cnn tonight. >> wednesday night lights. >> people are frankly exhausted a bret more than kamala harris dares to go, where democrats usually don't >> for a tally, sit down with fox plus parroting lies. donald trump says he was just repeating what others told him about haitian migrants. while

the nominee dances around a big question on deportations and after an actor publicly criticized barak obama's lecture two, black men, the former president, gives him a ray here. what happened next? live at the table. kara swisher scott jennings coleman hughes, and now euro hoc with special guest actor wendell pierce. and a debate between kevin o'leary and catherine rampell with 20 days to go, americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other but here they do >> i'm abby phillip in new york. let's get right to what america is talking about. was that worth it tonight? kamala harris joined fox news bret baier for an interview and it turned contentious pretty

quickly. one of the most fiery moments happened right after bear played a clip of trump talking about quote the enemy from within with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the american people that's not what you just showed where he was asked about that? >> that's not what you just showed in all fairness the question that we asked him, he didn't show that. >> and here's the bottom line. he has repeated it many times and you and i both know that you and i both know that he has talked about turning the american military on the american people it was a strange moment because in that same interview, trump did say, you know, he talks about the enemy from within. he talked about who he was talking about bret baier didn't play it and harris called him out for it and that's moment to me kind of crystallized. these two were just going to be going at it for this entire 27 and minute

interview. >> yeah. i thought i thought so. i thought it was a good interview. i actually i thought breadth did a good job. i know a lot of people said he was repairing republican talking points, but he had to be tough with her on that network and she came with it too. she brought it to which i thought was good. there's a way to do those fox interviews like pete buttigieg is sort of charming and disarming and she just went in with her prosecutor personality. i thought it served her well here. >> i thought britt did an excellent job. i thought he was pretty straightforward. he asked her some questions that she had recently gotten, say, on 60 minutes, i thought the most important exchanges for voters will be around immigration and again, i think she come up she came up empty on that tonight he pressed her repeatedly on what they did at the beginning of the biden/harris administration and she showed no humility. whatsoever and continues to plow forward like it never happened. and i just think continuing to have no answer for that it's not serving her well, speaking of immigration, i want to play. this is literally how this interview started and it's interesting. listened to him

would you estimate your administration has released into the country over the last three-and-a-half years well, i'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because i agree with you. it is it is a topic of discussion that people want to rightly have and you know what i'm going to talk about it. >> but just that number. do you think it's 1 million, 3 million brett. >> let's just get to the point the point is that we have a broken immigration system that needs to be repaired. >> so your homeland security secretary said that even 5% of apprehension not finished, we have we have 6 million people have been released into the country. and let me just finish. i'll get to the question i promise you. >> i was beginning to answer that. >> that's how it that's how it started. i want to bring in now someone joining us in our fifth seed, virtually former fox host, geraldo rivera, who just endorsed vice president harris for all the good to see you. at

what what did you make of that way of starting the interview and also just five words from harris, five words from brett baer. they really couldn't even get into a rhythm of an answer. there. what did you make of that? >> oh, i think you had the the best moment for vice president harris and the worst moment in the just in the last couple of minutes, her best moment was when she busted foxx's chops for running a clip about the enemy within which was not about the enemy within. it was much more nine for the former president who has been crazy, don't cry, talking crazy about subversives within the, within the government. so she, she really, she did well to point that out. what she did very poorly, it seems to me abby is how in the world where everybody in this whole country knows that immigration is now the issue is the issue of the moment. maybe it won't be three weeks from now. maybe it will

be before right now, immigration is the issue. how could she not be prepared for brett baer showing the photographs of the tragic victims of illegal immigrant criminals she she should have an answer for that answer, other than no it's awful and it deserves some some real substantive thought. for instance, here, let me just read you one quick sense. this is from jason riley, the father of lincoln riley, one of the one of the victims was portrayed and it's about how the memory of their loved ones are being exploited. this is from jason riley, lincoln's father i think it's being used politically to get those votes. it makes me angry. i feel like they're using my daughter's name and she was much better than that as she should be raised up for the person that she is. she was an angel. why couldn't kamala harris say

something like that that human eyes her concern for the loss and then called out those who would exploit it is an interesting point. there. i think first of all, she gets this question every single time that anybody comes to her with microphone and the default to while trump killed the immigration bell that honestly doesn't seem to be working for the folks who immigration is their number one issue. and fox has certainly been a part of that message machine and that's their number one issue right now that's not a movable voter at this moment, people have made up their mind already. it's 20 days before an election. her go on fox's is not about changing people's minds about how they feel about voting based on immigration. it's about showing people that she can be tough. she is a leader and that she is willing to go in the lion's den and not rollover and get her belly scratch or tried to play by some other rules of whatever the game is on whatever bias

networks. we can talk about at the moment. she is showing that she's taking the fight and she's going to handle it like a prosecutors prosecutor her case as a leader fox news is known to be partisan same as some other networks out there and to go there is really for book the audiences that already have their minds made up to show them that you can be a leader. >> i mean, toughness was i think part of what she needed to do tonight yeah. i mean, if if anything else, i mean, she seemed to show she could take the back-and-forth. >> yes. she's always been tough and it's good that you showed that. but part of looking tough and looking presidential is also having good answers to the questions everyone's thinking about now, if you've been paying thank attention to immigration the past four years, you know that talking about trump's thwarting of the immigration bill is starting the story in the third act. and the first two acts were biden and harris really reversing tons of trump policies and not

handling the border very well. so you have to have some answer to that criticism. and cars expecting something better than just focusing back and i would yesterday at the economic thing that we're nonsensical answer, so i don't i think it's actually going there and showing she can do it. >> my mom's a big fox news. >> she liked it. it's like, oh, she's pretty tough. that's the message yet she's not going to vote for it necessarily that and that's the key thing. it was she came here, she's talking to me i see her and that's actually need to hear her answer. the fox criticism because that's what a lot of people are hearing did should they need loud know that she's going to actually take the question. >> i think tripoli i'm less interested in participation ribbons here. i mean, i feel like every time she does one of these interviews, we end up defaulting to well, at least she tried that. i just don't think that's good enough for running for president. >> how did trump do economics already did fine. >> how did how did she he would never say he didn't do well, tell me, i say i have

repeatedly said he and she did did i or did i not criticize him on the nabj? >> hey, there the day on this show that i not and you can watch him at the economic club. i thought he was fine. i thought it worked literally was nonsensical. first of all, he said, you could disagree with no agreements. >> and also he repeatedly attacked his interviewer. i mean, all of those things. i mean, if you saw if common well, harris instead of maybe evading the question, attack brett baer and said, you're biased and you're wrong and we went back to the i'm speaking i'm speaking. >> let me finish. let me interrupt. >> look, she's she's been played the clip you were saying just for time today meandering through these long-winded wind ups and prepositional phrases only to get to he's unsatisfactory answers. it's exactly what happened on 60 minutes and frankly, it's what happened at the debate when she won't answer the specific questions she's says, it doesn't satisfy, may not look, i'm geared against her. >> i don't know that there's a lot, but it's not it's just not to me, it's not satisfactory yeah. let me let me bring in her other because he's waiting patiently over

there. i'll be there all what do you what do you think about that? i mean, does she get credit and is that really what this is about or did she blank on some answers that need more substance? and then frankly, i mean, i was expecting the integrals. you have more substance in general, more a range of a questions, but it was largely about immigration and as it will be, i think for the next three weeks, abby, she did get out that the former president is unstable, unfit, and dangerous, which i thought was as clear, clear as you can you can have as exclamatory statement, she she laid that out. >> she wasn't afraid to challenge breadths i think that she gets props for that. but they spoke over each other in a way that i thought did not communicate anything other than the hostility of the venue. and but i still come back to the point i started with, there should be more flexibility and

scott making the point to it should be more flexibility. there should be more a better grasp of answers even if they are free recorded in your brain. at least say we could present them in a way that has a beginning, a middle, and an end. it's not the third she think about why she one more thing hey, there's a conference but in slacking, let me let me ask you. >> i mean, when she was asked again in this interview as she has been in several interviews about what she would do differently from president biden what do you make of her answer? >> i don't like it at all. >> i remember when al gore distance bill clinton as if he was like a stinky rag in 2000. >> and i think it caused al gore the election of 2000. i think that biden had a pretty good presidency inflation is down, unemployment is down. how could you not embrace? you know, the stock market is up there's a, there's the new messenger in town who is going to be more inclusive with the

optimist. it just seems to me that there's a this is the big leagues. this is the 11th hour. it just seems to me that you've got to bring your a game came and you've got to have you can't make someone a different personality, but you can give them a briefing where they have answers and the way she was prepared for the debate, did she went into the fox news interviews? seems to me with knowing that she was going to get scolded by the fifth grade teacher and that she's going to do her best to hold her own. but it didn't seem that the answer is to me where expansive enough for presidential. and i put it that way. >> interesting that's going to be geraldo's hot take here on the show to embrace the biden presidency and legacy in these last three weeks of the election, geraldo rivera, thank you very much for joining us, everyone else. >> hang tight for us coming up next here, the topic barely mentioned during this interview

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search of the harris interview transcript you would not find whole lot about the issue that voters say is the number one thing to them, the economy joining us at the table, catherine compel, kevin o'leary, and in our fifth seat, tony nominated star wendell pierce, who's currently starring in the hit cbs series, elizbeth. its second season, by the way, it starts tomorrow night, but i do want to start on the economy we were talking actually just now about this bloomberg interview that trump did it's actually the second one of these economic club interviews, and i keep waiting to hear for like a plan. but what i keep hearing is this mexico, which i know you're not going to get anything from that i said i'm going to put a 100, 200, or 300. i'm going to put the highest tariff and history,

meaning i'm going just stop them from ever selling a car in teenagers so i mean, it's not the plan is that it the whole thing i mean, he did negotiate with mexico and with china and had deals with both. and he's now pretty mad about the actual binding deal that we have with mexico. that's the usmca, which replaced nafta that he negotiated and is now critical of. he forgets who was responsible for it and with china, you know, he has sort of a handshake deal that never materialized into anything useful. and so the tariffs are still in place. i don't really understand why he keeps going back to this. well, of more and more and more tariffs. >> let me explain why let's take china. let's take an example that every american understands tiktok. >> everybody knows tiktok america people may, people made a decision that congress to ban it on midnight. jen 19th. the supreme leader of china said, no, we're going to use your

court systems to litigate the american people people. so that doesn't happen. i can't do that in china, the supreme leader would never let me do that. i can protect my ip, their chinese have been screwing my 45 businesses for 35 years. i like the idea of going to war with china with tariffs to change behavior, but it didn't change behavior if you're all it did was hurt american weak leadership. >> that doesn't know how to emphasize this same leadership there was trump started with her and it was clinton said, let's democratize china, let's show the democracy and they'll play foreign on china to 400% already based tariffs. >> i'm trying not. >> there have been many studies showing that us companies and consumers are the ones who bore the comic study. >> i'm doing business in china. i'm actually doing business. yeah. >> yeah, i'm actually working, you know, academic. >> so mike, where do you think they buy their inputs from

olmec sway some from china trying you should deal they make the same product with the moles that i pay for there. they shipped them into this country under a different brand. i don't like it anymore, and i've been trying to solve this feud everything from china and my world, i'm an you're going to be finished more for this stuff and they knew even in the 1600s that you shall not tariff the input, having let's just take a yoga murray, american hundred percent tariff on a yoga mat will make it vietnam are making india or make it america. >> we won't buy anything with china will be more offensive. you'll come be more expensive no, no, no, absolutely. it we will buy it from there. >> what do you mean we want hold on. >> hold on one second because i get why you raise the price. but but kevin, you're having a different this is always what happens when we talk about trump in the economy. people come on here, trump pay on just, just hang on. people come on the show and then they

defend a different economic policy that the one that trump is advocating, he says in the clip, what am i going to do? negotiate with china or mexico he doesn't want to negotiate. he says, you're not going to get anything from them. okay. that's what he says. he does not want to negotiate. also, the question i asked you is, where is the rest of the plan? where's the rest of the economic plan? >> well, why did you get his track record for the last term that he had no inflation fantastic wage growth. i mean, look he actually sat in the seat of 22. you may not like what? life was president in july don't remember 9% in place. and when he was, i remember 18% unemployment. i mean, i remember when that was going on pandemic that he bungled are you saying he created the virus? >> know but he absolutely made it worse. >> hell by lying about the risk, by telling people not to get tested. tester saying he should have personally cured the virus i'm saying he should

have given his test to americans regimen. >> she did not say that i mean, but but scott, i mean, i'm sorry, this this idea this idea that somehow because trump was the president, that the virus has political proclivities and decided to prolong itself has been created just, you don't think leadership mattered. virus know, i don't ask you, don't i don't believe the violence matters. >> you don't forget trump withheld various kinds of testing kits and ppe from states that we're asking for it. >> and then he told them to go by themselves. >> you think that was the mask because that what you think and then outfit them for it so they already been talking about virus i do want to get back to the you are implicitly by protecting its started republicans keep saying that this election is about the economy now, i guess it's maybe also about immigration, but it is about the economy. when you ask voters and again, like i'm wondering what else is trump planning on doing? and can he articulated what to me to be? i think it's a great

question and it needs to be fleshed out. i think we should probably play the clip though of harris from the chicago economic club or the, or do we not have it because she didn't show up to talk. so here here's what i think he's going to extend the tax cuts he's going to rein in the federal government. and the overburden some regulatory state which he can now do because of the supreme court. and he's going to take on these countries that screw american workers. that's the plan. and oh, by the way, he's going to he's going to he's going to correct. he's going to crack down on immigration to the benefit of american law is going to depths. >> he's going to deport 20 million people. the people who picked you're crops, the people who process you are meet the people who, you know care for your grandmother that people who serve all sorts of critical functions in this country. yeah, he's going to deport a lot of people and that's going to worsen the economy. in fact, there has been, i don't know, like a dozen different independent no analyses from again, independent economic analyses from goldman sachs, aei brookings for the no amera

peterson institute, like i mean, if you want to run on more illegal immigration as a democrat, go ahead. >> i just don't think it's work in the election. >> he's wants to deport 20. i'm not done with his ai what is economic policy is because he has talked about it. he doesn't understand how any of it would work, but he has talked about it. he wants 10% global tariffs which would worsen inflation. he wants to deport 20 million people, which would worsen inflation and reduced growth. he reserve, which would worsen inflation. he wants to devalue the dollar, which would worse it's an inflation role that all of these things, the american population wants that economy back. >> what do you say to that because we don't a lot of people don't understand kevin, what what tariffs are they see it as this great punishment to china that we're going to do. >> he says he's going to raise it up. he said today 2,000% tariffs on china, but here's the thing. it punishes the american importer. the chinese

are paid once, once you pay for those moles, the chinese have put that money in their pocket and then you are charged for the tariffs. were you bringing your moles in and then just one other point that he said, moving back. >> but one other point is he says that that's going to incentivize people to come back. >> that's pie in the sky. if i give 2000 2,000% tariffs on china has got a force all these people to come back and know, i'm for american jobs and that's why that's why i support kamala harris and i supported president lula jobs they brought manufacturing back when president trump didn't. the terrorists that he's talking about is not going to incentivize anybody else to go oh, my goodness. i'm not going to want to pay those terrorists. so i'm going to build this plant here in america. >> it's not because it's our european allies, but not with china, because unfortunately i live in the real-world and not all of you are doing visits. china like i am. >> they cheat. they still they don't play by the way.

>> i don't think they do going are you going to invest in a business that makes all of the low value input? >> it's that we buy more lonely business. they don't have any value renal the biden tariffs on china so very, very, so since harris is running on that how do you how do you view the door postures i think hur hurt her tariffs, which are in fact a continuation of biden tariffs are dumb ideas i think that we have many lots of evidence showing that americans pay those. >> i want to promptly policies are even done. trump. >> i want to be really clear here because i think that there's a little bit of a bait and switch going on. you're talking about just china. trump is talking about across the board tariffs. he's talking about europe. he started about mexico. he's talking about canada he's talking about across the board tariffs. he's also talking about a few other things no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime no word on how that gets paid for accept that. he says it's not a negotiating tactic because the money coming in from tariffs

will pay for everything, right now. >> you know, it's interesting. it's interesting, kevin, when she saying things you are actually willfully reducing a don't you? like? american jobs? i don't think she ever said that for one, by the way, being willfully reductive about everything i've got stuck back on your tiktok know, but i'm just saying i got stuck back on your tiktok example. i'm glad that we live in a country where this does get litigated in china, they just do everything from the top down. i was one of the early critics of tiktok being in this country for national security pretty issues clear that the supreme leader will use our laws to litigate. >> i think it's great that our country has a country where anybody were a first amendment rules and they can do that. no, we can't because it's trying okay with that. i'm ok with that's there i'm not okay with it. what cannot we're not going to make them into? a country like ours. our country is amazing in that tiktok can be ota court hearing there was a level playing field. >> no, i think the issue is what's the mechanism between what you are proposing an outcome you want? and then we

want a level playing, but that won't achieve a level playing field. all it will do is raise costs for american humor want a level playing field? you're allowed, you need a strategy to get it and said, no, you don't know how. if i'm hearing you correctly, this is all about your personal bottom line. >> ed, millions of investors like me, but just to be clear, that yours, you're a single issue voter on the issue of tariffs against china put it aside, that not just talking about china, he's talking about the rest of the world, but that is the only thing that you don't hear me. okay. and so you. endorsed the economic policy based on that one thing, but my point is, even if that is the only thing he cares about and that's fine. he's a voter okay. counts. he won't get it through this policy increasing tariffs to 400% on china plus 10% on everywhere else in the world will not get us the economic or political outcomes you are investigating presented as it a presented as sort of punishment for that

country. that but it's a punishment on the american investors it directly because what american ones, especially trump, doesn't want a single car being sold in the united states from china, presumptively, to the cost, the price of cars or other people that make cars by the way, the germans make cars, the french make cars were tariffing those two. >> no, no, the point is, he those two in the prices go up. >> i was very suspicious. i said, look, if your is more expensive than what happens to your show in france, these are our allies and we have tips with them because they tariff us to china. we are right in economic war with, if you don't understand that, you should wake up and smell the roses you don't understand that your prescription will not get you the outcome you i guarantee you. >> then let's know the flowers terror. >> it is amazing. >> leader will be right where you're sitting in 48 hours

working out a deal. >> why was it? all right. >> i do agree with i think china is its own case. i mean, i think they are the worst actor. they are obviously our biggest global adversary, and they are, they are different than other countries we deal with what you said about tiktok because i mean, obviously they do things to us and they do very bad things to people all over the world economically, that has to be dealt with separately than every, you know, how do, you know how to do it? have a coalition of our allies who gang up on china to set the rules of trade. who did that? barack obama, who killed that deal, donald trump, will work then what do they kill her they were able to do. i its work because we are the largest just economy in the world and we did not join this coalition of the willing. paul ryan was one of the great champions of this particular bill and couldn't get it through i think look, i think we can leave it there facts are the facts on that one, kevin catherine. >> thank you all very much. everyone else stick around because coming up next it's

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going to be there and we're going to take a look and i'll give you a full report. what i do, but that's been in the news vapors and reported pretty broadly coleman and now euro are back with us scott, are you satisfied with that answer? >> it's false. know it as it's being reported, know. >> i look the facts of the immigration system in the united states are bad enough that you don't have to dip into stories that you can't verify or that have been proven not to be true. that's what i think. i think if he stuck to the facts of what they did on day one to reverse all of his policies. the verified numbers of people that have come into this country, the number of violent people that ended this country that we just have roaming around any societal and governance impacts that all of this illegal immigration has caused. he'd be perfectly so. that's the magic call logical next step on it is the fact that he keeps doing this. >> does that bother you either? >> like i said, it if i were

being asked about this and i were a candidate for public office, i would say here are the facts of the system, the facts audit outrage you. please vote for me. >> it's a different this is a little bit different than just broadly trump forgetting things and not sourcing things correctly and just making ish up all the time. this is a very targeted situation for it's very specific community that there's here legally now we can disagree about whether or not they should be here, but they are here legally. the governor of ohio has had multiple times that this community in particular has been a gift to companies that needed workers. they have been hardworking. this is literally what reagan used to talk about when he talked about immigration, about hardworking people some boost the economy there, there was a demand for undocumented workers in this country that is not being addressed by the executive branch of both parties. but those are high bank. >> i understand why he's saying it, though. i swear i saw play last night here at the lincoln center theater called mcneil. it's about ai, robert downey

junior isn't it? at the end of the play, it's about ai rewriting things there was a phrase that i really like called a truthful lie, which is i heard it somewhere. it's not it's an absolute lie, but he's made he somehow thinks it's the truth, so he thinks he's telling the truth. and so i don't know if he's i honestly don't know if he's willfully doing it, but he i don't think he's are you said you don't think trump is. well, i think he and he's been i think he's handled that. it's likely i think he's addled and he's heard stories. he reminds me of my mom, like elderly person who's going, i heard it. it was sent out to defend your mom here, but i have to say no, my mom does it all the time. >> she's like i heard at this and it's not true. sorry. but she does it's the way it is. i'm gonna do all. i think it's willful. okay. >> it is what the big lie the more they believe, but that is the whole authoritative when they have is a tiny grainy immigration. >> and then they take a lie and

then there's a tiny bit of truth that people have issues with immigration and put turn to people have issues with immigration but he is purposely lying to she purposely lied to i think she's asking accident while because people believe it and it's not at war, you lie the more they believe that that is, that is in, that's probably the propaganda playbook. if you make it simple, repeated over and over until it gets to a point where he believes that he did it today. and the economic summit, i'd know a guy who's going to rebuild him his auto plant in america. you if i put the tariffs on this, this guy, there's this mythical person. this is mythical person that's i know. >> he i heard someone said this. >> i think i read it somewhere at some person. somebody said this mythical person that tells him that this lie is true. and as long as i didn't say it it's office can to add one more to the, to the equation. this is actually from jd vance. this is what he said today of all days for whatever reason

answered this question directly 1 million times. no. >> i think there are serious problems in 2020, so did donald trump lose the election? not by the words that i would use. ok, what the media will do, they'll focus on the court cases or they'll focus on some crazy conspiracy theory erie what i know, what verifiably i know happened is that in 2020, large technology companies censored americans from talking about things like the hunter biden laptop story. and that had a major, major consequence on the election because we all know that hunter biden laptop voter use. did he win or lose? i mean, that is that is a really been i've noticed the past two years, there's a certain kind of republican that knows trump lost the election but it's uncommon i'm for both saying that outright. so pivots to the

very real issue. he's correct that the hunter biden laptop story was nursed on social media and that's something that should absolutely be taken seriously if any they've pivoted to that to say, actually it's not so wrong that he lost the election when really it is wrong, he lost the election. but also there was this really never been that he lost the election and then tried to overthrow the government is not they're not equivalent lead, lost the election, but not true. >> it's a lie. this is there is no proof that tech companies colluded to do this. this is nonsense and he knows it. oh okay. no, i'm sorry. >> there wasn't there was there was an amazing frank on your traditional effort. >> know, there was i have been one of the biggest critics of tech. this is nonsense. absolutely nonsense. i'm wendy just discounts are the court cases dozens thrown off twitter? they were and then they scott let me try again to explain to you what actually happened she may i add hey want the new york post story let's

look she's done really hard to deal with. >> you. >> sold me. go ahead. no. >> i'm not insulting you. i don't know why you keep repeating things that aren't true. >> did they get thrown off twitter? >> and then they said that he made a mistake and they put them right back where it was like, cnn does, just like the new york times is it wasn't after the election. it was during the time and they switched jack dorsey switch. so i think what the issue is is you think twitter is the government. you think twitter is running things and there's not this wide collusion, but and jd vance knows that because he's worked in tech, he knows there there's no such thing as big tech. there are big tech companies. they do not collide food on this issue. >> what do collude on? and here's the peter teals of the world and elon musk as we see him now randomly because apparently someone thinks that elon musk will turn out voters in pennsylvania, they are messaging and marketing together as an individualized. >> fine with that, if he wanted to by it what right? >> their argument is that trust us as founders, we are

billionaire founders, we are so smart. these are jd right? as opposed to trust the system of democracy, they are trying to get people could do that. let's, let me, it's a private platform. >> do whatever he wants. >> but the hunter biden issue it was suppressed and at the same time, it was being suppressed every supposed expert intelligence expert and the democratic party assured, assure the american people that this was a russian disinformation story. they worked hand in glove. with what happened. >> scott, we don't have time to litigate the hunter biden story, but i have all i will say about that is that there's a huge leap from the story was suppressed to that information would have turned the election for trump. i think that no one no no republican has bridge that gap at which is an important organ does that justify insurrection? all right that's a disqualifier for me. >> they tried to overthrow the government when they didn't get the result in the election that is part two of it, and we cannot forget about that

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a mutual contact said that he wanted to speak. i wanted to speak to him i didn't offer it as a criticism for me. it was nothing more than strategist in a room saying, hey, what is the best messaging for black men? >> i have focused the past six weeks of going around going around the country with a barbershop campaign, right go into barbershops to talk to black men since i heard this, every election cycle, they always say that's black men are siphoned off and i found the most effective way to communicate men in those gatherings was saying, what do you want? >> vote for what you want, declare with your values are and then go out and make the choice on that. don't consider my candidate or the other candidate vote for what you want. and i found it to be effective. what they will say is what are you doing here? this is the first time someone came and asked that what of me. and so i was saying simply,

that's not the way to get to folks. what i've experienced in the past six weeks. and some facts, folks want to see what have you delivered? >> did he acknowledge that it was not delivered? the right way we actually didn't get into which was better or if it was criticism, it was saying that we want the same page. >> we just wanted to clear that we wanted to make sure that we were on the same page and that we wanted to reach out to folks and i think it's just a matter of messaging one way or the other and that the that the focus shouldn't be on the criticism or what is perceived as criticism or what is perceived as the right way or the wrong way to get to black man is isn't the first, first thing is to approach and engage black man, except the challenge and get out the vote i mean, i coleman you, you were we had you on last week when this happened and you were critical of it than i and you probably believe, i guess i assume that there is some movement toward

the right among black man. i mean, we've been talking about that not only on this show and other shows on this network for over a year, pew has been studying this issue. there is a clear trend among black men towards the republican party and away from democrats. it's not just about trump or biden or kamala. it's about a party effect. and the question is, why is that? i think it's even bigger than black men. i think it's men in general. i think there's something about the democratic party. i think that is that, well, a lot. >> it's just we've had a we've had the same conversation going all the way back now actually, it's really not the fact is in this election as eight years, give me any candidate who wouldn't want 85% of any demographics vote, trump does. that's what of the black vote in 2020 he actually got three always he's actually right, you got three more points? you got any more important? >> you also think it's not a lie, not for is not three points bringing your head in the sand isn't going to know and that's why we're going

around messaging to people who obviously i think the problem obama head and i even reacted to it when he did it been on the other side of vote, obama does that. >> it's the sort of lecturer chiding obama without treating them in a respectful manner. i didn't find that a respectful way to treat anybody. and immediately really pushing hard on identity politics over what do you want as a person as a man, as a person in american society? and i think think

>> continue to talk to them and get them out to the polls. and the trend that you're talking about is that is not that it will not be that significant it's on the margins and those two or three points may add up to something and that's why we're engaging black men. that's why that's why the vice president has put out a platform to answer some those challenges. >> the key question actually, because real quick, i wanted to ask you that, but the policies in that i mean, effectively she said, i'm gonna give you marijuana, gave you crypto and i'm gonna give you unconstitutional government bribes. if a white, as i'm looking, politician had done, we would be 24/7 that i know, but just serve as two i'm a substantive analogy for me. >> it was completely actually

got scott okay. young people regardless of their race, they want to hear about crypto. they want to hear about manly right? fair amount of luck, men, it was stated you criminals stated because black man asks, what are you going to do loans for a black men as long as anyone know what is it what is typically good was telling you this will be effective for you to that i had already put out a week ago. i'd actually a month ago that these, that these entrepreneurial bones will be beneficial to you. just like i tell black folks, it is a black policy. social security is a black policy. medicare is a black policy. it is effective and end it impacts your else's community. so it is not identity politics is actually american policy. >> great discussion here, everyone. thank you very much window to look forward to your show tomorrow. we'll be right

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