this is an opportunity to have people smile and laugh. and i think one of the things we're missing, and maybe that undecided voter, if you if you cracked the good joke, you're a little self-deprecating, mike. i've never seen that side of kamala harris before or donald trump before. and that's the opportunity i think will mean more than just another rally. >> well, picking you, it's also focused on catholic voters and democrats are divided. >> some democrats definitely agree with meghan. others are sort of surprised because it's denying her a moment at a moment when a lot of polls show that they don't really know kamala harris. they were surprised that she didn't take up the opportunity to sit on stage with donald trump, which would attract viewers ratings, and center yeah, interest for sure all right, guys, thanks very much for being here this morning. >> i really appreciate it. thanks to all of you for joining us as well. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now

questions on her record on fox news, donald trump gets a chance to win back a voter. he lost ever january 6 and responds by describing think the attack as a day of love, breaking overnight us airstrikes in yemen, one unusual mission with the high tech stealth bomber why these targets, this it's a method and why now, new details in the death of former one direction member limb pain that chilling 911 call hotel staff made just minutes before for his fatal fall from a window? >> i'm sara sidner with john berman and kate baldwin this is cnn new central harris takes her campaign back to class courting black voters tuesday, republican voters wednesday. >> today's first stop college voters, stopping by the university of wisconsin, milwaukee with a lot of attention now on these 11 words, my presidency will not

be a continuation of joe biden's presidency. harris said that during her first ever interview on fox news, that quickly became combative. >> there was called the us citizen citizenship act of who exactly 21 essentially to citizenship yes, ma'am. >> i finished man finished responding. but you have to let me finish your daughter respect that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the american people that's not what you just showed. i hope you got to say what you wanted to say about donald trump. there are a lot of things to say there are two things that people want to learn about. you and your policies. and that's why everyone to go to kamala harris dot harris.com as for donald trump, he told voters last night, january 6 was a day of love and he was he was and also

that he was only reporting what he had heard about haitian migrants eating people those pets in ohio, which they weren't and defended his mass deportation plan while making his pitch to undecided latino voters seen as jeff zeleny is on the trail following kamala harris today, following all of this for us in milwaukee jeff, as i mentioned, the first stop to the court college voters, what's going to happen today and what's the impact slash fallout from last night >> good morning, vice president harris will be waking up here in milwaukee. her blue state tour continues, michigan, pennsylvania, and now here in wisconsin, but it is that interview from fox news that is still hanging over the campaign trail today as she was trying to present and ourselves as a candidate of change that has been one central question underwriting this entire campaign. she had this to say about how she might be different from the biden administration? >> let me be very clear my

presidency will not be a continuation of joe biden's presidency and like every new president that comes in to office, i will bring my life experiences, my professional special experiences, and fresh and new ideas i invite ideas, whether it be from the republicans who are supporting me central question that's been dogging vice president harris, how much distance in space is she going to put between herself and president biden? >> of course, this comes on the heels of an answer about a week ago when she said she wouldn't change anything at all. so clearly, adjusting her for answer there, but that is a question that some voters have, is that she's trying to persuade some and mobilize others to support her candidacy. just how different she might be from president biden and persuade some immobilized others was also maybe that was the goal of donald trump last night and speak speaking at a town hall with undecided latino voters. what happened there

donald trump seldom is standing before an audience asking some pretty difficult questions. >> he softened his rhetoric in some degrees on immigration, but it was this exchange with a voter who said he was a republican and he was looking for a region to support donald trump, but was troubled by the actions of january 6. he gave the former president a chance to sort of explain that. but this is what trump said. >> you had hundreds of thousands of people come to washington. they didn't come because of me. they came because of the election they thought the election was a rigged election, but that was a day of love from the standpoint of the medians. i spoke and i use the term peacefully and patriotically, but they couldn't get me because of the fact that i said everything's gotta be peaceful and patriotic images and of course our memories that suggests that it was anything but that and he did not win over at least that one voter, but standing before

some other voters taking questions on the economy, on immigration, it's unclear how much the former president had did in terms of reaching out to bettina voters, which is what he was trying to do. but kate with less than three weeks to go with early voting underway across the country. both of these candidates remained locked in an incredibly tight race. >> no, it's great to see jeff. thank you so much, john. >> all right. breaking overnight, the u.s. launches airstrikes using the high tech btu del bomber. so what was the target and why this high-tech mission? now, i know what you're thinking. you have seen the moon before. you see it a lot almost every night well, there are some people so excited about this. look at the moon that basically they're stopping everything, gazing up at the sky you're going to want to know what's going on here. i know. i do. >> and new this morning, a major settlement reached between an archdiocese in hundreds of victims of clergy abuse

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latest on this strike john the red sea and the gulf of aden may not get the attention of other parts of the middle east, but the houthi attacks on us navy warships and on commercial vessels have continued just last week for example, we saw the houthis hit an american oil tanker with ballistic missiles and the houthis have successfully are claiming do have downed us multimillion-dol lar drones over yemen, the u.s. >> has made it clear that if those attacks continue, then the u.s. will hit. and in this case, the u.s. hit hard using b2 stealth bombers to carry out attacks. you see the locations there on five different underground storage facilities for weapons. the weapons the pentagon says are used to carry out out those attacks. and that was the purpose here to degrade, to take away from the houthis abilities to target shipping. you don't see the u.s. carry out strikes of this magnitude every day. but when the u.s. essentially has seen these attacks continue long enough, they do act and that's exactly what we saw happen last night with strikes from b2 stealth bombers against these facilities. >> yeah. and we keep mentioning

the b2 because this is not a usual thing, even by military standards are that's right, this is the first time we've seen the b2 stealth bomber used to attack the houthis over the course of the last year. so the question why this specific bomber, normally the u.s. uses fighter jets to carry out these strikes, but beat 2s, obviously strategic bombers have a much heavier payload, a much heavier bomb load. they can carry and that perhaps is the reason why they were used. the pentagon pointed out that these were hardened bunkers. so it's possible that us use these to be able to carry perhaps bunker busters or heavier bombs that are able to target armored or, or hardened under the ground facilities. and that may be the reason we're seeing this used here. us also pointing out that they were navy assets as part of this strikes. you see the force that the u.s. brought here. and it also sends a very clear message to the houthis that if the attacks continue and every sign indicates that they will then these us strikes will continue against their facilities their radar because we have seen targeted before

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floor balcony? out of buenos aires hotel and overnight, we obtained the 911 call made to first responders just moments before his death, joining us now is cnn's lisa respers france with new details for us. what did you learn from about his state of being from these 9-1-1 calls? >> good morning, sara. what we learned is that the staff at the hotel were very worried. let's take a listen >> well we have a host who was overwhelmed with drugs and alcohol and well even when he is aware, he breaks things up, he is chairing the whole room apart and well, we need someone to be sent, please go ahead. that is under the influence of alcohol and drugs. yes, sir yes. >> that's right. >> yeah. we know that the room appeared to have some damage to what we see from a photo that was released that it looked as

if a tv may have been broken in the room. and as you could hear, they mentioned drugs and alcohol. we don't know at this point what role drugs and alcohol played, if any, in this, but we do you know that liam was very open in the past about his issues with substance abuse and mental health. people are devastated by this error because we've known liam since he was 14-years-old back in 2008, when he auditioned for the x factor before returning two years later to audition and become a part of one direction x factor actually released a statement that they put on social media in which they said, we are heartbroken by the sad passing of liam payne. he was immensely talented and as part of one direction, liam will leave a lasting legacy on the music industry and fans around the world. our thoughts are with his friends family, and all all who loved him. just so much grieving today. sara, people just cannot believe this. he was so young. this was such a shocking tragedy and

it's reverberating throughout the music industry. and fandom today. >> in case people forget this was one of the biggest bands ever with their popularity. lisa respers france, it's always a joy to see you. thank you so much. appreciate you. thank you, kate. thanks. >> so as politico put it today since kamala harris has gotten in the race, the most persuasive knock amani he has been that she's too buttoned up and employing a risk averse strategy that hughes towards friendly interviewers who off softballs after oxygen, you sit down. you can forget all what it means for voters now, today, and we are minutes away from the supposedly best view of the super moon you're live pictures in dow in dallas. the moon is moving around all crazy derek van dam is outside for this big event brightest, it's super moon 2024. >> all tell you why there's all

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challenge is right under your nose what's your name again moment, a lunar event. so hyped that you would think there was a panda involved now there is not as far as you know, we are talking about the moon now, not just any moon, but a super moon which happens four times a year. but this one is so special to some people. they call it a super duper moo.

meteorologist, derek van dam is outside in atlanta. derek the only word i can use to describe how i'm feeling right now is tingly i've got to tingly. >> i mean, that's the sensation you feel when you come on side. who knew that a moon could bring the world together. while we saw in april when we had the solar eclipse and the moon blocked out the sun. but, you know, this there's more significant before you head outside. let's talk about what we are witnessing this morning at 7:26. that's right now. >> it is actually at its peak. >> it is 14% larger and appearing 14% larger and 30% brighter than the moon at apogee, which is i'll explain in just one moment, but you can see the beautiful celestial spectacle over my left-hand shoulder just before it crosses the horizon here in atlanta, georgia so what in the world is a supermoon?

>> well, it's all about the path of how the moon rotates around the planet. think of it more like an egg gets an elliptical path, so it's actually at its peregrine. and that is it's closest approach to earth. so that gives us this closer feel. look that brighter component to the moon that you see directly over maine. and this is significant because this around 40% larger and 30% brighter than what it would normally the be just on a regular full moon, or at its apogee, which is when it's its furthest point away from the moon. so this is coinciding now with the full moon so we get the spectacle that we're all witnessing this morning. and it's also called the hunter's moon. and this is the reason for this is that it's enhanced appearance actually was a sign to hunter tours in several hundred years ago that they needed to prepare for the upcoming winter. so the fact that they can plan out the supermoon events around the autumn equinox and around the

hunting season, and also providing for the winter season. so we need clear skies in order for it to be visible clearly here in atlanta, we've got perfect conditions. much of the midwest and the east it's coast looking fantastic. if you can get outside after this live shot, of course, and see it for yourself because it is one of four supermoon's that we're in. the third one one of the series right now. it's called 100. john derek, i'm just grateful that you cleared up all that confusion between the perigee and apogee because we were getting a lot of viewer questions about that mandy, i've saying, if you will, i'm sure also joining us right now is kristin fisher as even contributor and astrophysicist. hakeem oluseyi. it's great. you're bowser here. he came. what do you think of this thing? >> you know, i think that 2024 has been really good to us, you know, katt williams told us at the beginning of the year if something was going to happen i didn't know it was going to be a supermoon, a total solar

eclipse, and make it icom, it you know, we have our normal meteor showers. this has been just a great year for naked eye astronomy because if you like anything, you like naked eye astronomy, anything naked is going to let it be i don't look at me of one person don't world pointing a job christiane that was welcome. of course, it wasn't it whether you at all this is a big moment, historic moment. >> what does it mean for other astronomical events? because you just heard about a lot of them that we have seen yeah. >> yeah. >> you know what's wrong. solar low mood jump in no. go kristen well, i

was actually just going to say that during the big solar eclipse back in april, i was talking to a cayman one of the things that we talked about, what makes these events, these big celestial events? >> so cool is the fact that not only does it unite everybody on planet earth, but it also kind of united says back with our ancestors and how all of humanity for hundreds and thousands of years have done things and felt when they looked up at the sky. and so you heard derek van dam talking about this being the hunters moon, right? like the moon? that was so bright at this time of year that reminded people they need to go out and hunt and use this light to stock up for the winter. >> i mean, these are things that aqil and i probably don't think about too much now that we live in the city. >> but it's something that really connects us to our ancestors in a way that few other things do professor it's not just lighting up the sky maybe if you believe in some of the myths and the law are surrounding it because there

has been missed this one was going to do paper. >> there's been some evidence they cause baby booms nine months and some down the lines from a scientific perspective. >> what do you make of all that i'm here for professor but listen, biology does indeed respond to astronomical stimulus, right? >> so we have daily cycles, weekly cycles, which are the times between the mayor pedro phases of the moon, new to quarter to fall quarter. and you know, there are, there are annual cycles, right? and so you know, our were a part of the same system we're all a part of the same universe. and those lights in the sky, meant so much to our ancestors because they saw them there every night. but if you look throughout the animal kingdom they are part of our biology as well. so can they have the effects that you just named i'm not aware of those. i'd

have to take to search open a browser and search but the fact that there is a connection is, is, you know, that's well established. >> one thing some not in this image that we have up in one of these live shots, but sometimes these super moons come across that when you see a little bit more chris and they come across like a different color, more orange or yellow, or is what is, what is the reason for this yeah. >> well, and that's also why you get the name like the blood moon and whatnot and a lot of it depends on where it is on the horizon. and that's why they say the best time to see this moon is at right before sunset or sunrise. and so right now this is the perfect time. it's at its absolute most full. and so as you're going into work, getting the kids out, getting them to school. this is a time to just remember to look up that's fantastic. john and kate, i'm leaving to

go see the super moon running goodbye. >> it's still there. i mean, this is does it do anything else besides this? >> that's it that's it? >> no, it is. it is truly beautiful. i'm just asking. >> it is truly, truly beautiful in this is the biggest one of the year, professor that's correct. yes. we have another one coming on november 5, but this is the closest approach you know what these things to the coming clusters, they come in, you know, since 2020, we've had for a year, typically, you may have fewer, but the sky has been good to us. we're living in this great age of you don't naked eye astronomy and i'm loving it i feel like we should be seeing kumbaya. >> this might be the one moment before the election that we all get to come together and be happy for a moment evidence is a mess, but astronomically it's all right kristin fisher you don't get this everywhere, but cnn, new central. okay?

i'm just saying both so much. appreciate it now, back to the news. we'd just 19 days to the election. kamala harris is making a grab for undecided republican voters by sitting down with fox news in an interview that can only be described as contentious it's testy, heated take a look for yourself how many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has released into the country over the last three-and-a-half years? well, i'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because i agree with you. it is it is topic of discussion that people want to rightly have and you know what i'm going to talk about it. >> but do you just a number. do you think it's 1 million, 3 million? >> brett. let's just get to the point. >> you're homeland security secretary said that 85% of apprehension not finish. >> we have we have to run 6 million people have been released into the country.

>> and let me just finish. i'll get to the question. i promise you. >> i was beginning to answer. >> and when you came yesterday, i finished math, finished responding cnn's brian stelter joins me now, the issue brian of immigration first question out of the box if there are fox viewers who can be swayed, you think that they think of harris now? >> and i think there might be a few who can be swayed. the fox audience is hearing every day hour-by-hour how bad the democrats are. but harris showed she's willing to go anywhere and take questions. the coverage afterward on fox was overwhelmingly negative, saying kamala harris imploded, saying she was angry and agitated and avoiding responsibility. but the harris campaign believes this was a win for the vice president because she showed toughness and a willingness to go anywhere. it was striking how much bret baier focus on immigration after all, fox's own polling shows that the economy is the top issue in

this election. immigration number two, abortion number three fair, never asked about abortion, barely asked about the economy, but on fox and for fox, immigration is story number one. every day. so that's why he focused on immigration i'm curious what you saw as harris his strategy in this interview, i noticed she brought up donald trump a lot and some of the things that he says, some of the negativity that he spews what what do you make of this strategy that she is using? >> and is it different from what we've seen before? >> i call it a google strategy. she was going on fox, same things that fox viewers don't usually hear. and kind of encourage them to google it and look it up for themselves. she even read the url for her campaign website at the end of the interview, something that she doesn't usually do because she was trying to get fox viewers to check her out. i mean, listen to this clip. here's a clip where harris were bear tries to bait harris and say, why do trump voters love trump, or they stupid and listen now harris responded it

is not supposed to be misguided. >> the 50% stupid. >> what did i would never say that about the american people. and in fact, if you listen sent to donald trump, if you watched any of his rallies, he's the one who tends to demean and belittle and diminish the american people. he's the one who talks about an enemy within an enemy within talking about the american people, suggesting he would turn the american military on the image hurricane. people >> she's saying, first of all, no, i'm not going to insult american voters. that's what mike opponent does. the number two, she tries to bring up talking points that are rarely heard in right-wing media. sara you mentioned this yourself. the economy, abortion, reproductive rights didn't come up. why do you think that is i think it's you know, just to state the obvious, that's because it's a winning issue

for harris. >> it's a losing issue for trump. and bret baier was acting a little bit like a trump surrogate. he is an accomplished journalist with decades of experience, but he knew going into that interview that the fox viewers wanted to see harris roasted he basically had to act as a stand in for the trump campaign because that's what her audience wanted, that's the way i see it now, we've got trump's town hall where he revisited the topic of migrants eating pets because he was asked by one of the potential latino american voters why he is still talking about trying to kick out haitian migrants over this issue i know you saw what i saw. >> there were a lot of faces being made at this point described what happened there yeah that is so striking really the faces at the town hall say at all, let's, let's show that part where you can see people reacting to trump

reported. that's been reported. and eating other things too, that they're not supposed to be. but this is all i do is report. i have not i was there. i'm going to be there and we're going to take a look and i'll give you a full report. what i do but that's been in the newspapers and reported pretty broadly thought was sympathy for springfield, ohio. >> here we go again, they're back in the news in the worst way possible with a racist lie been spread about the town. there. i think we should acknowledge this is a racist dog whistle, don't, don't take it from the washington post last month, interviewed historians and wrote the following. the promotion of such rumors which thrust springfield into the national spotlight is quote, rooted in a centuries old racist trope of vilifying newcomers to the u.s. and highlights the countries present day divides historians know what trump is doing when he talks about migrants eating pets. and sadly, i think now we're going to see even more negative attention thrust on to

springfield, ohio and to be fair, the person who asked the question, a potential voter said to him, you know, local authorities have debunked this lie over and over again. >> why are you still using this? it was interesting to see he was very sincere question it wasn't combative at all. and then he got the answer that he got brian stelter, it is always a joy to have you and a joy to read the newsletter reliable. i appreciate it. john all right. >> with us now, democratic strategist, julie roginsky and marc lotter former strategic communications director for the trump 2020 campaign. >> she was sort of you because you spent ten years going on fox a lot and i don't want to ask it from a media perspective that's reliable sources per view there. thank god, we have brian for that. but from a political standpoint, the idea of harris going on fox, what do you think she got out of it? >> i'm not so sure that she got anything out of it. i understand the purpose which was to show that she can go into the lion's den and talk to people who may be curious but not obviously hearing information from fox that she wants them to hear. if you're

watching fox at this point, i don't know that you're curious about anything other than you want to go out and get out and vote for donald? trump and look, brian was right to appoint and this is a political thing that harris needed to understand the tail wag the dog at fox news. and i was a fox from 2004 all the way through trump's election. and i can tell you i saw what happened over there, which is that the audience? came, the person in charge, roger ailes, left and then nobody replaced him other than the audience. and the audience was paying for her blood and bred bear gave them exactly what they wanted. that wasn't helpful to her. i don't think she obviously showed that she could go toe-to-toe with him. she was obviously trump surrogate and she understood that she was debating him and play some donald trump. but i don't know. there's one undecided voter. there have looked to that and said, you know what, i'm going to vote for kamala harris personnel, maybe not there, but what about today? >> what is being replayed across the country and when it's in the headlines saying that she went toe to toe with her and she's not going to get another debate and the new york times made the point here that in some ways this was the second debate because brett was

just written literally running trump campaign ads. >> i mean, this is a turnout election. and she needs to turn out her vote and trump needs to turn out his vote. and i don't know that gone on fox helped her turn out her vote. there's probably a better allocation of time that she could have spent because again, all she did was perry crazy talking zero points, literally respond to trump ads and feed the beast, which is what trump does and what his exactly what fox says, right? fox takes the craziest things that trump says and saying washes them on a daily basis, and then they tried to saying watch that with her. is that the best use of her time? i personally don't think so. i think she probably would have had better time spent in pennsylvania yesterday going door to door in bucks county where she was in washington crossing than actually having to deal with that. >> so mark, it was interesting because i was watching the interview while i was also on the elon musk owned x and on social media, it was almost as if for the trump campaign had told every conservative surrogate out there, you need to be live tweeting how badly you think she's doing during

this. like, why do i mean, she had said like tours like, hey, good good day. brent. and there were conservatives out there saying, this is the worst interview i've ever seen. in why do you think it was so important to the trump campaign to try to paint this as a negative front. her well, i think that's what campaigns do and i'm sure that that kamala's campaign was doing the same thing during a univision town hall last night. >> and so you mean with social media, more people are probably getting their news it was off of social media these days than watching the event live. and so that's where that narrative gets baked in. but i will agree with juliette. i don't think she got much out of it because if you were that undecided voter, when brett asked about the economy or immigration, the answer wasn't, here's what we could have done better, what we want and i've done wrong. it was all trump's fault and when she was asked, well, what would you do differently? well, it's trump's fault and i'm not biden overnight. >> the ap and also abc news

published excerpts from a new book by michael hackett, price of power. this is about mitch mcconnell, and it's got some pretty interesting quotes in there. here's just one of them we're going to have more later in the broadcast. mitch mcconnell said after the 2020 election that then present didn't donald trump was quote, stupid as well as being ill-tempered, a quote despicable human being in a quote narcissist. that's according to excerpts from the new biography that will be released next month. mark again, we're less than three weeks before the election. these quotes coming from the republican leader either of the senate about the republican candidate, your view nothing new. >> they've been doing the rhinos, the old school republicans have been doing this since 2016. and what they've shown themselves being as being soon out of office thereafter and donald trump being reelected. so i don't think anybody sitting out there is going to go oh mcconnell doesn't like donald trump. so i'm going to vote for kamala harris. i just don't think it works that way.

>> it is interesting because this julie, this comes on the heels of harris, the harris campaign really working hard to point out that she does have republican support before the bret baier interview view, she did an event with some hunter republicans in bucks county as you were saying, right there what what's the ceiling for them focusing on their republican support, pointing out something like this. if they put this in a commercial, what's the ceiling for how much they can get out of it? >> well, look, there are a bunch of people who voted for nikki haley in pennsylvania after she got off the ballot, right? there is a tremendous number of people who continue to support a republican candidate other than trump, even when there was no other republican candidate than trump on the ballot? >> and so those are the people that she's going after understandably. >> so in places like bucks, which is an incredibly swing county in the collar counties in philadelphia philadelphia which go back and forth northampton county, monroe county, up in the poconos and so from that perspective something like this helps, but i will say mitch mcconnell, i don't know that mitch mcconnell

himself moves the needle for anybody mitch mcconnell endorsed donald trump, despite the fact that donald trump would, after mitch mcconnell's wife and the most racist terms kinda like ted cruz, right? these guys all bend the knee to trump, even when trump gets incredibly personal about their wives, about their families. and so to me it's nice that mitch mcconnell privately says this. but if mitch mcconnell, who's going to not run for reelection, i assume if he's stepping down as leader towards end of his career, he could do the right thing now and say, i was wrong. this man is not fit to serve, but he hasn't done that because mitch mcconnell has consistently insistently put party over country in ways that i think are really detrimental to his own party, because somebody is going to clean this mess up. if trump loses and it's not going to be somebody like mitch mcconnell, though it should be very quickly, mark it, donald trump, one of the things that donald trump said about the kamala harris interview the last night on fox was questioned her cognitive ability and that only made me wonder whether all the work that she has done in the harris campaign has done the last few days going after his age his quote, unquote weakness and instability there awards,

there is getting under his skin. it really does seem as if it has bothered him. some. >> do you see any different degree than before? >> no i think that's more of the shift in strategy by kamala harris to just she can't be for joy and vibes. it's not working, so she's going to be anti-trump. and if you're trump, you're basically reinforcing with your base about how unqualified she is and that fires them up as julie said, it's a get out the vote effort now for the next it's pretty weeks. >> alright, julia jens, keep marc lotter. thanks to both of you. very nice to see you this morning. >> the u.s. government is now using artificial intelligence to fight financial crimes how it's helped recover $1 billion in check fraud. this year alone and the three charges fulton county district attorney fani willis is asking an appeals hill's court to restore against donald trump in the georgia election subversion case

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weapon is already paying off some significant dividends. so as you mentioned 1 billion billion recovered just in fiscal 2024 alone. that's according to these new estimates shared first with cnn as that chart shows, this is nearly triple the year before it has been a game changer. it's really helped it's kinda level the playing field against fraudsters. and this of course, is a massive problem. fraud, right? juniper research finds that 362 billion is the online payment fraud projections by 2028 in some of that actually has been turbo charged by ai itself treasury is a prime target because it's among the biggest payers on the planet, right? i mean, they're paying out every year, almost $7,000,000,000,000. everything from social security, medicare, to those stimulus checks that everyone looks forward to. so it only makes sense that they tried to steal a page from the private sector because we know banks and payment companies, credit card firms, they're all using ai to try to detect

suspicious transactions. even the irs kate is using ai to try to find when there are people cheating on their taxes, particularly hedge funds so two questions that kind of go hand-in-hand do how, how are they using ai? >> and do they think they're just doing a better job of utilizing ai to find this broad, i mean, triple from the year before, did think there's just more check fraud this fiscal year? yeah. there is more of it, but there better able to detect it because of ai know importantly, we're not talking about generative ai, the kind that's used by chatgpt. and by googles gemini to make song lyrics and images and all that. this is really big data, machine learning ai. now that ai is really good at combing through ocean shins of data and detecting subtle patterns and anomalies that humans may never find. and they're able to do it in lightning fast speed. >> they flag it and then the

human can live in. >> there's a human in the loop to really i say yes, this is fraudulent. but all of this really shows how the federal government is trying to balance the risks and rewards of ai read because treasury secretary janet yellen herself recently warned bankers that the use of ai in finance poses significant risks there's a swat team of federal regulators led by yellen that last year, they classified artificial intelligence for the first time as an emerging vulnerability. we know the white house is weighing what jobs are most exposed to being replaced by ai. they're meeting with oh ai ceos to figure out how to power the datacenters behind ai. and yet obviously there's just this enormous potential for good to and treasury is just getting started using ai to fight financial crime. they won't even explain to me all of the ways they're going to be using because they don't want to tip off the bad guys. but one interesting point here, kate is that in some cases, ai can actually detect these

anomalies. and these fraudulent checks before they're ever cashed, right? it actually feels like something out of a tom cruise minority report film because it's just incredible how fast this is moving that one, we're going to, we're gonna have to sit on that. >> what you're going to just play that one more to be later. but i mean this shows just the huge potential for good. but also exposing the huge natural for bad as well. this balance that everyone is needing to deal with when it comes to add, this is super, super interesting. thank you so much. thanks, kate, john right. >> new this morning, a judge just struck down multiple new election rules approved by trump he allies and georgia state election board democrats say the rules would have created post-election chaos. 200 county election officials to conduct a reasonable inquiry into election results before certifying them and examine all election related materials. the judge says that violates georgia state law and the constitution the catholic archdiocese of loss angeles has agreed to pay $880 million to victims of sexual abuse by clergy attorneys for the more than 1,300 victims say their

clients suffered horrific abuse. some cases that go back decades. >> the la archbishop says, he hopes the settlement will provide a measure of healing the archdiocese earlier paid 740 million to settle other us claims. >> so the ftc just unveiled its click to cancel rule requiring businesses to make it as easy to cancel a subscription as two sign up for it in american on average, is paying nearly $1,000 a year for subscriptions. the new rule will take effect 180 days after it appeared jurors in the federal register, which i guess means there i won't have to pay for tattoo monthly anymore i think that's a good idea. >> go ahead and click it and get rid of it. you're wonderful. happy all right, new this morning with early voting and full swing in georgia, fulton county district attorney fani willis is asking an appeals court to reinstate six counts in the 2020 election subversion case against donald trump and his co-defendants. the judge tossed those counts out earlier this year, cnn's

sara murray is joining me now. sara, tell me what happened here and what the expectation is on her part, as well as what the judge might say yeah. >> i mean, this is all pretrial wrangling a lower court judge threw out six of these counts out again, three related to trump that have to do with solicitation of violation of oath by a public officer. essentially, these are counts related to the efforts to have state in officials put forward this slate of fake electors. and so fani willis is trying to get these counts reinstated before this thing goes to trial in a court filing, she said the indictment included an abundance of context and factual allegations about the solicitations at issue, including requests that were made to whom they were made, the manner they were made. one of the things that the judge said when he tossed the counts was that there just wasn't enough information about the potential underlying crime for these counts to go forward and fani willis is disputing that her filing saying, look, defendants have enough to prepare their defense in this case we've also learned. and john just talked about this,

that in georgia, a judge struck down some very controversial new rules that were put in place when it comes to voting. what can you tell us about why this is so significant? >> sara, what i think is so significant about that is just this is a board that has been behaving so outside of the norm for a state election board, it's three republicans on the majority of the board who have just pushed forward with these rules by partisan election officials have begged them not to do the things that they have been doing so close to the election they've been warned, including by their own attorneys, that the rules they were putting forward could be illegal. and now that that is what the judge essentially said in this ruling, that they were putting forth a number of rules, whether it has to do at hand counting the number of ballots, whether it has to do a certification that just do not align with the law. and that is what the judge said in his ruling and saying saying that these rules cannot go forward. again, this is a big smack down for very unusual behavior from a state election board. >> yeah, calling it unconstitutional is just that a smackdown.