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was killed, saying that he was actually killed yesterday during military operations in the gaza strip and we have learned, of course from our sources as well, that this was not an intelligence driven special operation that resulted in sinwar being killed. instead, it appears that infantry soldiers came upon a group of three militants in gaza. and fired a tank shell at them and ultimately britley, when they went and found the bodies in the rubble, they realized that one of them resembled yahya sinwar, that then triggered a set of alarm bells and senior ranks of the israeli military and the israeli government. and ultimately triggering the confirmation that it was indeed him. there were, there was initially confirmation via dental records and that was followed up by multiple dna tests that ultimately gave the israeli government and its military the confirmation to a confidence level necessary to be able to now announced this

publicly. they are also saying that it was soldiers in israel's 828th brigade. that is an infantry brigade responsible i'm actually for training other infantry soldiers that was operating in gaza that successfully killed sinwar we are already seeing in gaza mixed reaction from the population. there some expressing sadness and shock at his death, but others very much celebrating it and hoping that sinwar's death will accelerate the end of the war in gaza. and that is indeed now the question whether or not sinwar's killing gives the israeli prime minister the opportunity to present a picture of victory in israel, to be able to move towards ending the war and perhaps even reaching a deal to free the hostages. because as well. but so much uncertainty about who might succeed. yahya sinwar at this point, whether or not there is an immediate successor, or whether instead we will see chaos in hamas's

ranks, but without a doubt, this is an enormous moment in this region, just over a year after sinwar launched this october 7 attack that then triggered this deadly, deadly war in gaza. the israeli military now confirming that yahya sinwar has been killed say that cnn has now obtained and i do want to warn our viewers, this is a graphic image. just so you have a chance to turn away if you need to hear cnn has obtained a verified picture of sinwar's body you can see the face they're blurred out which certainly does spare some of the graphic nature. i will say this photo, but this is a picture of that rubble that jeremy was describing. where the infantry fired a shell at this building. and in this collapse found bodies of militants, including one that resembled sinwar and was later verified to be sinwar alex

marquardt, bringing you into this, tell us more about sinwar, who has not been seen since the war began more than a year ago, is thought to have been constantly on the move i just think it's remarkable how this all unfolded. we've seen these huge operations to go after other hamas leaders or to try to rescue israeli hostages this seemed like it was luck that they stumbled across sinwar not in a tunnel, not surrounded by hostages as he, as we thought he was according to us and intelligence officials who was out in the open with only two others we believe that photo is remarkable and it really speaks to how this unfolded in that they didn't know immediately building, but it was only today with a drone that they started getting indications that this could be him and went into look and then we're able to confirm through dna testing that this was indeed him. i've seen that

image and other images. i can tell you that while they're very, very gory, it was immediately apparent that this was very, very likely sinwar, you could tell that he had a strong resemblance to all the photos that we have seen with sinwar. but again, just remarkable to see that this unfolded. we believe in the southern part of the gaza strip, and that was the belief that he was in or around khan younis where he's from in a tunnel, possibly surrounded by hostages. he may have been farther south than that and he was moving around with a relatively light footprint in moving with just two other people, he wouldn't have wouldn't have been a lot of attention. it would have been far less easy to spot. but the u.s. has been helping with the intelligence to try to hunt him down to try to find him, and he has been very, very careful. it's believed that he was not using electronic devices. it's believed that he was spending

most of his time underground and what appears to have happened now is that the israeli military came upon him and managed to eliminate the most wanted man that israel has been chasing for the past year. >> potentially with huge ramifications for this conflict alex, jeremy, please standby. we should let you know that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is set to speak in just moments this as demonstrators are now, we understand at hostage square in tel aviv demonstrating and reacting to this news will of course bring you netanyahu's remarks as they happen i want to expand the conversation now with retired naval commander kirk lippold, also with us is barak ravid is a cnn political and global affairs analyst a barack first to you, what are you learning about the process of confirming sinwar's death and how he was killed both these very police there different 16 and you know

pathologists who examined sinwar's body. >> and there were three different tests. one was to examine his photographs of sinwar's teeth than the than a fingerprint i test and then a dna test and just minutes ago, all three were confirmed and the israelis announced that it was indeed sinwar and commander, we've been talking about what this means then according to our reporting us officials have long looked at sinwar's death as one of the best chances of this war coming to an end. >> how do you see it? >> i think it's great news. number one, i would say that timing in life is everything which written reality. when you look at, you've got to training battalion versus front line special operators and yet the training battalion is the one that caught him in the open and killed him really speaks to the readiness across the entire

israeli defense force, which means they are prepared. they are at war and they're ready to react on a moment's notice to hunt down and kill these terrorists no matter where they are from. >> the top-level leadership like sinwar down to the regular foot soldiers that continue this fight. i think the next step you're going to see happen is this is where the israeli intelligence is really going to kick in. because what you're going to see is not only did they catch him out in the open, but then the real question is, where did he come from and where was he headed to that he would have such a light footprint out in the open, tried to boy things when in fact, everything we have learned would indicate that he had surrounded himself by those hostages as a human shield and protection. that's not there. so now we have to look beyond the immediate death of sinwar yeah, those are all good questions i do wonder barack, internally from the israeli perspective clearly, us officials may be i'd say a

little bit hopefully, looking at this as an opportunity, is that how it's viewed internally in israel, that this could lead? to a better chance at a hostage ceasefire deal definitely in what i hear from prime minister netanyahu's closest aides is that they say that now a window of opportunity is open for either getting more hostages out in the military operation because hamas is in disarray, or now using this blow that hamas suffered to get the hostage deal that has been sort of in the freezer for the last two months we want to netanyahu's aides told me that the prime minister's main focus right now is hostages. >> hostages hostages. and he's going to try and push for some sort of both deal or military operation to get them out.

>> the commentor, i'm curious about who the really government would then be negotiating with, who fills the shoes of yahya sinwar in this situation. and what does it mean for hamas? militarily well, i think right now militarily hamas is going to want to continue the fight because even with sinwar gone, they're not going to want to admit defeat. >> they still have hostages unfortunately, as a bargaining tool. so that is going to have to be dealt with on one front by the same token, hamas leadership is now going to have to figure out does that leadership reside in a four-star hotel hiding behind the qatari's and being able to do things they're or they in fact going to appoint someone that's on the ground and currently engaged in combat operations against the idf so i think to a point, hamas needs to appoint the leader that the netanyahu government can go shaped with. that is in a position of authority that the fighters are now going to listen to, to be able to really have meaningful hostage

negotiations because well, it may be hostages, hostages, hostages. you have to be able to negotiate with a group as a whole and as we've seen in the past, hamas does not control all, all the hostages you've stock still have palestinian islamic jihad and others who may control certain hostages and may not be willing to give up the fight so, i think the leadership vacuum on need to be filled and quickly commander lippold, thank you so much. >> barak ravid really appreciate the reporting and we're looking now at these live pictures. coming to us from tel aviv. you see people gathered there in hostage square and the american reference point for this moment really is after the killing of osama bin plot. and to that point, we are awaiting prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressing his nation following the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar were going going to get in a quick break that should be happening any moment we'll be back when it does

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news, do you think this makes a ceasefire deal more or less likely it's good news that that he was killed i mean, he was the mastermind and one of the masterminds of october 7 and so this is this is also very, very symbolic for, for israel to get one of the people that caused that slaughter in their homeland. and i would hope that it would lead you know, to better chances for a ceasefire and a resolution of this conflict about i will support israel in doing what it needs to do to protect its homeland and its people as you know, congressman, parts of the fad, anti-missile defense system arrived in israel this week, along with about 100 american personnel that are dedicated to operating it. >> but there is hamas, hezbollah, houthis, and iran. they've all struck inside

israel. in recent days, how concerned are you for their safety? do you think that they face less of a risk now that sinwar is dead? >> i'm not sure they have less of a risk amina hezbollah has many more rockets. i ran has many more ballistic missiles, et cetera, that can be launched against israel. so i don't think the threat has diminished much. and yes, i do worry for their safety, but they're there for a good cause. it's a defensive missile system trying to save lives. and so that's what american service men and women do all the time. they protect our freedom and they save lives. and so that's part of their mission. i do and i wish them godspeed and wish them that all the safety, but also wish them the best of luck in carrying out their mission of protecting the lives of innocent victims and as i mentioned a moment ago, we're set to hear from prime minister netanyahu shortly. he has been under intense pressure from the global community for the number of civilian deaths in gaza as

part of israel's response to hamas's attack on october 7, what do you anticipate? we'll hear from him? what do you think is approach should should be moving forward i think what we hear from a man is that they've killed the mastermind of the october 7 attacks and that his approach should be those people that have vowed to kill you and a vowed to kill you for decades. >> there's only one way to deal with them and that's the way. and this is the way to deal with them and so i'm on behind israel and their efforts right now. look, a lot of these leaders have always thought that their immune, that they could do whatever they want and israel wouldn't touch them while now they're finding that it's a different, it's a different day. and that their lives are at stake. and so again, i support israel and what it's doing. i support netanyahu and what he's doing. and it's unfortunate that we had civilian casualties in gaza. and i put the blame squarely on hamas hamas is the one that hides among the

civilians. there, the ones that are causing the civilian casualties. israel is taking extraordinary steps, not to kill civilians, but hamas is doing everything in its power to make sure that that that death toll goes up. because then the international community can come to its aid. i think that israel needs to press on congressman i we initially were going to bring you on to talk about the u.s. presidential election, obviously, with this breaking news, this is a huge development in the conflict. and so it takes precedence. i do wonder if you think at all, if in any way this might have an impact on the election? >> i'm not so. i think the number one issues here and america although it should be an issue for us, i think the number one issue or the economy, immigration and the like. i think that's what is going to determine this election. i also think that to a certain extent americans posture in the world, it's definitely been weakened during the last three-and-a-hal

f years and we need to restore american confidence and also the confidence of our allies that america will be a good ally and not try to placate our enemies i ran is a great example of that during this administration, there were allowed to go 500% more in revenue from oil because of the lack of the enforcement of sanctions against iran that in turn led to them funding hezbollah and hamas, which in turn led to these attacks, which in turn leads to a much less stable world that should be on the, on the minds of americans do. but i believe it's going to be, it's going to come down in the economy and immigration and other issues here at home. >> congressman we have to, leave the conversation there, but i look forward to having you on back soon to discuss the election further. thanks so much for joining me to alright, thank you let's bring back alex marquardt, who joins us now with more on the

expectations of who may follow, ya-ya's in more because as we were just tearing a moment ago it's difficult to state right now what hamas might do in part because it's so disjointed, it's not just hamas that's in gaza. it's all these other groups and organizations that are also holding hostages. so who would israel negotiate a hostage release deal with its disjointed within gaza is disjointed outside of gaza because you have the political leadership that is primarily based in qatar, one of the big questions we've been asking this morning is whether the u.s. is going to put pressure on israel and see this as a moment to strike he's fire, but the same question can go for hamas. will hamas take this moment to try to strike a ceasefire because they are recognizing that they've been severely weekend. i reported months ago that it, was the u.s. belief that sinwar was under major pressure from his commanders on the ground because they were facing because they've had been so decimated. and so when you look at the landscape of the hamas leaderships, so many of them have been taken taken out, whether it's the top political leader who we believe was

assassinated by israel in tehran a couple of weeks ago, he was the lead negotiator on the ceasefire deal. sinwar's top military commander was also killed. his deputy was killed, and now sinwar has been killed another big name that is still out there, someone who is still alive is mohammed sinwar, who is yahya sinwar's brother. that according to sources would be among the worst-case scenarios because he has seemed to be as cut from the same cloth just as hard line and could be just as rigorous about not agreeing to a ceasefire, right now. but there could be others who who who are more agreeable, if you will. there's someone named callias, ohio who has taken the position as the top negotiator. he's on the political side. he's outside of gaza. he's in doha. the political echelon. outside of gaza, they've been seen as more amenable and more in favor of a ceasefire. so this is a major question and it could go both ways. so we need to see the whether israel sees this as a moment to end the war in gaza, but also whether hamas

sees at the same way, and how does iran see it, right? especially as we know that israel had already readied its response to iran as we saw what's happening, obviously in lebanon with hezbollah now, you have this where they've killed sinwar. how is iran going to see this? well, no doubt, iran would like hamas to continue the fight against israel the criticism of iran by so many is that they're willing to fight to the last palette sitting in the last houthi, the last lebanese. >> so they would, they will continue to support hamas and even with sinwar's death, hamas is not dead. they still have thousands of fighters on the battlefield. and so that's why us officials believe that it's going to be require a diplomatic solution in order to push hamas aside. but brianna, you're absolutely right. ron continues to support hezbollah in the fight against israel. that continues to rage. and we're waiting really at any moment now, we could see an israeli retaliation against iran. so iran is not ending their support. they will continue to try to fund and

proxies across the region to continue to attack israel, including hamas. and they will certainly have a big say in who the next let's leader of hamas's all right, alex, thank you so much for your reporting and your insights. we appreciate it much more on the breaking news this hour prime minister benjamin netanyahu his about to speak, so we are awaiting that. we're going to bring that to you live as soon as it happens, stay with cnn kid. it's like your generation has evolved past traditional political symbols. and there's room for everyone yeah qin's puke rainbows, white taken, you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean, not spreadsheets. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do.

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been set aside. he may be entitled to a portion of that money. all when 800 8085920400. that's when 808, five-nine, 2,400 breaking news right? >> right now sources telling cnn that president biden has been briefed as israel confirms that hamas leader yahya sinwar is dead or biden is on air force one on his way to germany and the impact of sinwar's death on the israel hamas war is expected to be a major focus when the president meets with european leaders this week cnn senior white house correspondent, kayla tausche, she is in berlin ahead of biden's arrival killer, what are you hearing from us officials on this well, we know that president biden is expected to land here in berlin and just a few hours, reporters will have an opportunity to shout questions at him on the tarmac, unclear whether he will take them. >> we had expected to hear from national security adviser jake sullivan during a gaggle aboard air force one with press secretary karine jump here. that's so far has not happened yet, which is somewhat unusual considering that when these

gaggles happen aboard the president's plan, they often happen at the outset of the flights that reporters then have the duration of the travel to work on their stories. but given the fact that this is a live and evolving situation that has evolved just as the president has been on board. it's understandable that but that perhaps the administration wants to wait until it has all of the information possible that it can share before speaking directly to reporters. president biden is with secretary of state tony blinken and nsa jake sullivan, onboard air force one here in germany when he touches down and tomorrow he'll be having an expanded bilateral meeting with german chancellor olaf scholtz and the president of germany, as well as a summit with the closest european allies for the u.s. that's the uk, france, and germany during a meeting that was expected to focus on the middle east and the desire among all of those nations for not only as ceasefire between israel and hezbollah in lebanon, but also a ceasefire between israel and hamas in

gaza. i'm told by officials that now the news of sinwar's death will overtake any prior agenda points that happen i've been planned by officials but these have been leaders that have for weeks been trying to urge israel toward a cessation of hostilities. you may remember that at the united nations in new york, just about three weeks ago, they were working around the clock to try to get israel to agree to a short-term ceasefire deal in lebanon. and of course, that fell apart. israel did not go forward with that deal. and the desire and the drumbeat of messaging among and his allies has only gotten stronger. in recent weeks, at least as far as european allies, the u.s. has been willing to allow israel to proceed on the northern border of israel, southern part of lebanon with its campaign there, but has expressed some frustration about the bombing campaign in beirut. and we've seen that come to a pause, but now the question of what happens with hamas, whether israel sees its leadership is further

decentralized and a greater opportunity to continue decimating that group, or whether israel sees that as a new opening for a diplomatic off-ramp that remains to be seen and officials telling cnn that they too don't yet know how this situation will play out. boris, brianna all right. >> kayla, thank you for that report for us from berlin and we are awaiting still benjamin netanyahu, israeli prime minister, to address his nation after israel has confirmed that it killed the leader of hamas, yahya sinwar, stay with us for that saturday at nine on cnn a heart attack. do they have life insurance? >> know but we have life insurance john i'm trying to find something we can afford. >> fortunately, it only a few minutes, select quote, found john a $500,000 policy for only

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back we are keeping a close eye on the campaign trail to see when vice president harris and former president trump will address the major breaking news, which is, of course the killing of hamas leader yahya sinwar by israel. we are also awaiting word from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu would should come in just moments. let's talk about the state of the presidential race in the united states though, with matt mowers and chuck rocha matt as a republican strategist and former trump administration official, he's also president of the global public strategy firm valcour. chuck is a democratic strategist and senior advisor to the bernie sanders 2016 and 2020 campaigns. i want to ask both of you about harris on fox, trump on univision. but first, obviously with the news overseas the way that these candidates talk about the middle east is significant for specific constituencies. and i'm thinking for kamala harris about arab american communities in michigan, chuck, how do you think the way that she

discusses this and how israel might move forward, perhaps getting closer to a peace deal could impact the campaign. >> i think it has a lot to do with being ready on day one. there aren't a lot of small groups of folks jewish voters in pennsylvania, muslim americans in michigan that do matter, especially at the end, people have already started voting. so people are looking for the motivation to actually show up. and when you have something like this happens while we're talking about it nonstop, it gets people's attention sorry, chocolates go now, benjamin netanyahu statement, final preparations tobar seven massacre. >> i mean, it's i stand before you today. good good form. you that sinwar, who has been eliminated person who committed the most terrible massacre in the history of our nation since the holocaust, the mass murderers who murdered dozens of israelis and the hundreds of our citizen was eliminated today by our heroic soldiers. in today, as we promised to do what we came to account with him today, evil has suffered a heavy blow. marshals task

before us is not yet complete let me is beholden to the dear families of the hostages. i say this is an important moment in the war when i'm sure we will continue with all our strength until they return home of all of your loved ones. who are our loved ones our highest commitment is my highest commitment will it look into the resident of gaza? i say that's looking to sinwar ruined your life she told you he was a lion before. but in reality, he was hiding on a dark turn and he was killed when he fled in a panic from our soldiers these elimination is an important landmark in the decline of two evil rule of hamas. i would like to say again, the clearest way hamas will no longer rule gaza. this is the beginning of the day after hamas and this is an opportunity for you to resident of gaza to finally break free from its tyranny, hamas i call on everyone who hold our

hostages like whoever lays down his weapon and return our hostages, we will allow him to go out and leave in the same way, i say, whoever harm or stitches blood on his head, we will reckon with him no more no void dollars bond i'll show about how to fund the return of our hostages is an opportunity to achieve all our goals. and it brings the end of the war closer to the people of the region's i say in gaza, in beirut, throughout the entire region, that darkness receipts and delight rises death haniah, sinwar, nasrallah, mohsen, aqil and many of their associates are gone. i'm calling you people of the region when we have a great opportunity to stop the axis of evil and create a different future. a future of peace, future of prosperity in the entire region together, we can repel the curse promote da, blessing go now it is clear to everyone in

israel and in the world why we insisted on not ending the work. we did and csed in the face of older pressures to enter gaza, rafah to 45 stronghold of hamas where sinwar in many of the murders i would like to express my deep appreciation to the idf shin bet fighters under commanders. >> but are determined and courageous action. >> there are none better than today, we clarified again what happened to those who heard us today. we once again show the world of victory of good over evil. but the war might is not over yet and it is difficult and it's exact heavy price from us. and i wish to express my condolences from the bottom of my heart to the families who lost her loved ones. i want to hog the families of our fallen heroes their supreme sacrifice during the last few days brings us closer to victory by merely asking david said, i will pursue my enemies and destroy them, and will not return to their end citizens of israel,

we are in the resurrection war. big challengers are still ahead of us were required for long patients for the unity of durags, for courage, for a firm stand together. we will fight and with god's help together, we will win benjamin netanyahu speaking to the israeli people and the world following confirmation of the death of the leader of hamas, yahya sinwar they're netanyahu saying that a mass murderer has been eliminated. >> he said evil has suffered a heavy blow, but the task is not complete. he did vow to the families of those taken by hamas and other outfits in gaza on october 7, that he would return the hostages, adding that hamas will no longer rule gaza. he said this is day one of a gaza without hamas and he said that returning the hostages would bring that region closer to the end of the

war. >> he also said, now it is clear to the world, i believe he said why alex marquardt? we israel went into rafah. >> yeah. and remember that was one of the most contentious moments in this war between the biden administration and the israelis and that's when the biden ministration held back 2000 pound bombs because they did not want israel to go into rafah in ways that they had in the rest of the gaza strip. so what netanyahu i believe is alluding to here is where they ended up finding and killing yahya sinwar, which the idf has said was in southern gaza. he mentioned rough and i'm also told by a person familiar with the death of sinwar that it did happen in or around rafah. so a bit more detail there about the final moments of sinwar. but i think what is really interesting there as we didn't hear the word ceasefire, if i'm a us official, i'm listening to that speech looking for indications that he may be willing to wind down

this war and reach a diplomatic solution. he talked about the importance of bringing home the hostages, but the argument that he has made for quite some time is that it is military pressure, is the fighting that will bring those hostages home. he didn't say anything about now agreeing to a ceasefire and he said this brings us one step closer to victory and victory for him has been the eradication of hamas he go, i was just saying he actually seemed to implore individuals to give the hostages over, right. >> than it was he was imploring individual palestinians that we will give you safe passage if you turn over hostages, which is kind of difficult to see how that might play out. yeah. >> and part of it has to do with how hamas will now be constituted, right? there's this open question of whether the political arm that is essentially been in qatar now for the duration of the war, at least and the actual military group the sort of combat units that are in gaza, if there

might be a power struggle there, and then yahoo did say that this is a great opportunity to stop an axis of evil it, and i wonder alex how, does that land with folks in gaza? this idea that this is now day one of a gaza without hamas, is that a realistic path forward at this point? >> there are so many facets of that, that terrific question, boris and it reminds me of something that netanyahu said last week when he basically called on the lebanese people to cast off hezbollah. and here he's asking the palestinians of gaza to cast out hamas. there are a lot of palestinians in gaza who don't want to see hamas in charge, who don't want to see hamas running the gaza strip because of everything that they have been suffering through for the past year. but when you hear netanyahu calling on them to do that, they don't want to team up with netanyahu on that because netanyahu has been the one that they believe has brought so much suffering there. so that is likely not to go down very well. it's not like the palestinians and gaza are going to heed this call

from prime minister netanyahu. but this, there's no doubt that there's this power vacuum here. and they have always had this difficult balance of power between those who are outside, those who were inside, those who are outside weren't aware of the october 7, the attacks as they were as they were unfolding or as they were about to unfold and so major questions about whether the ultimate head of hamas is going to remain in gaza as it did with yahya sinwar, or whether someone from the political echelon outside of gaza will take over in which case they might be more in favor of coming to some kind of ceasefire agreement, but what i took away from that netanyahu's speech is that the fight in his eyes is not yet over all right. >> we have much more ahead, obviously, an historic address from benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister of israel, as he is telling his nation and the world hold that israeli forces killed the leader of hamas, yahya sinwar, will have much more after a quick break, stay with us

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soldiers out. >> she does elimination is important landmark in the decline from the evil rulers. i would like to say again the clearest way you can mask will no longer rule gaza israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, as he confirms the death of yaya sinwar, the head of hamas in the architect of the october 7 attacks. >> some of the deadliest against jews, certainly the deadliest against jews since the holocaust. we have barak ravid with us as well as retired navy commander kirk lippold, barack first to you, i'm curious what you heard there from netanyahu that stood out well, i think the first thing is that for the first time maybe netanyahu spoke about the day after the war, something that every time for over the last year, he said that the day after the war will be when hamas will be destroyed. >> and now we just heard them

say that today when he feels sinwar has been killed, is the first day after hamas. i think this is significant. second thing is the fact that netanyahu and also minister of defense, yoav gallant said the same thing in statements but today that they're calling on people who are holding hostages in gaza to give them away and get immunity. and the ability to go to exile without being harmed i'm not sure a lot of people would jump on this proposal at the end of the day hamas will reconstitute and will resume some sort of negotiations. and that's what i hear from israeli officials that now after sinwar is out of the game with this hardline positions, now is the time to try and resume those talks to get this hostage and ceasefire deal that has been on the table for months now commander, what

do you think is ahead? >> and also from the u.s. perspective, what they're hoping is ahead versus what netanyahu may have signaled is ahead. he did say the task is not complete i pick where you have to look at it from the u.s perspective, we have always wanted to try and pressure netanyahu to get to a point where we can stop the war, where we can get to a cease-fire agreement, where we can have the hostages released and begin to negotiate what is the new gaza, a new version of gaza going to look like? >> and how are they going to be able to sustain and hopefully even live in peace? that has not been the view. when you look at how prime minister netanyahu has acted ever since october 7. and the war broke out. he is operated with a strategic vision and a moral clarity that has been somewhat frustrating for both the u.s. the eu and others because he

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